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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: FoxHound on March 24, 2024, 03:10 PM

Title: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: FoxHound on March 24, 2024, 03:10 PM
What do you expect to see in the future of Worms Knowledge Base (worms2d.info) (https://worms2d.info)?

I would like to know what the community feels that the wiki is lacking. What could make the wiki better?

Particularly what I miss the most in the wiki is a list and description of all the existing rope tricks, or at least the most basic ones with gifs and definitions of each trick.

I think some weapon pages like Bungee page (https://worms2d.info/Bungee) have almost nothing written there and there are a lot of things to write there.

I remember that Chicken and others suggested to create a timeline of everything about WA's history. That would be amazing.

Korydex recently made a page with the history of competitions in WA, but that page is hidden and not linked to other pages. Probably the page is still under construction. I hope to see that page linked and more detailed in the future.

I still want to see lots of schemes receiving articles there, there are many articles missing for the brilliant ideas from the community.

Anyone has something to suggest to make the wiki better?
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: Lupastic on March 24, 2024, 03:41 PM
What do you expect to see in the future of Worms Knowledge Base (worms2d.info)?

Particularly what I miss the most in the wiki is a list and description of all the existing rope tricks, or at least the most basic ones with gifs and definitions of each trick. I think some weapon pages like bungee page have almost nothing written there and there are a lot of things to write there.

^ this, yes.

also, this part could be updated: https://worms2d.info/Schemes

https://worms2d.info/Scheme_ideas
^ this part is nice to exist but the problem with the style of listing things in this way is.. most people nowadays are too lazy and they might not take the time to scout thru everything, they simply lose interest after 10 seconds because nowadays people's brains are programmed for quick easily managable infos, like tiktok shorts. maybe this goddamn hella long list could be sorted in an easier and more "exciting" way to show what is what.

here is another example of what I meant:
(https://i.ibb.co/J2jjTK9/lol.png)

writing the command "!help" and t hen this pops up. 9/10 reaction of random wormnet players is "f*ck man, I'm not going to read all that!" (as for me I like reading all these commands, and scheme ideas too to play new stuff :D)

it's a way of marketing, if you wanna get the full attention and make people feel excited, give them something shorter and easily programmable for their brains to be actually interested in sth.
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: TheKomodo on March 24, 2024, 03:47 PM
Just unfortunately these days people have such an inconveniently short attention span.

When we started playing this game, there was no tik tok, or other deliberately addictive social media platforms.

We didn't have YouTube, Instagram or anything else...

You HAD to make the effort in those days for EVERYTHING you do in life, now people expect things to be handed to them because they were all born with a silver spoon!

There is nothing wrong with the UI of WA, sure it COULD be updated and COULD be easier to navigate, but the problem always has been and always will be the laziness of humans in general.
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: Korydex on March 24, 2024, 05:46 PM
Korydex recently made a page with the history of competitions in WA, but that page is hidden and not linked to other pages. Probably the page is still under construction. I hope to see that page linked and more detailed in the future.
That's the page https://worms2d.info/List_of_past_competitions
I've added all the competitions I found there. Next step would be creating pages for every of the competitions.
I don't know where should be a link to this page. Maybe Community page but there are already some of these sites mentioned here (https://worms2d.info/Community#Defunct_or_inactive_sites_and_clans.2Fspecialized_communities)

Btw this scheme (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5515/) should definitely be mentioned in the wiki somewhere ;)
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: h3oCharles on March 25, 2024, 12:19 PM
for me, a place where internal discussions with WKB editors could occur (like a discord server...?)
sure, there's https://worms2d.info/Worms_Knowledge_Base:Contributing but idk what the priority levels and writing difficulties for all of them are
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: Free on March 25, 2024, 02:36 PM
Man, I would love to help but I don't remember shit from my career because smoked weed all the time
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: TheKomodo on March 25, 2024, 03:24 PM
I should really write a BnG and Darts article for it...
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: Woshee on March 27, 2024, 08:32 AM
Add info about Gen 3 (Worms Open Warfare, it's sequel, Worms 2: Armageddon/Reloaded, Worms 3) and Worms W.M.D. Why? Mainly to screw over the fandom wiki.
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: FoxHound on May 02, 2024, 12:43 PM
Thanks for your feedback. I talked with Triad as he's the only person that is inclined to help with the Rope Tricks article. We'll probably work together to do it. If anyone wants to help we would appreciate, or at least give some feedback or edit what could be better when we start the article. I'm excited to work on this, I just don't have much free time until May 17th.

I will add the scheme Korydex suggested above in this topic (Shy guy's T17 variation) in Scheme ideas someday. I already included Korydex competitions page in Community page.

Currently I'm planning to write all intrinsic schemes articles. This way a person using HostingBuddy will have a source of information to know about that list of schemes when they type a command. I'm actually enjoying verifying all the differences of these schemes. I'm surprised many of them had competitive events.

I'm willing to write Grenade Wars article too. It will be complicated because there are many similar schemes with a variety of names. Hopely TheKomodo could help checking if I miss something.

In a near future I plan to start the WA timeline article as a stub.
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: nadiya8040 on May 03, 2024, 01:20 AM
Awesome! Say... Are there any plans on updating the 4.0 plans page too? https://worms2d.info/4
Since we Wormers have suggested new approved features on another topic of this forum site, and since the page has not been updated since 2021, I thought it might be helpful for us to look forward to Version 4.0 on the updated list too.
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: TheKomodo on May 03, 2024, 12:59 PM
Thanks for your feedback. I talked with Triad as he's the only person that is inclined to help with the Rope Tricks article. We'll probably work together to do it. If anyone wants to help we would appreciate, or at least give some feedback or edit what could be better when we start the article. I'm excited to work on this, I just don't have much free time until May 17th.

I'm willing to write Grenade Wars article too. It will be complicated because there are many similar schemes with a variety of names. Hopely TheKomodo could help checking if I miss something.

FoxHound, I do want to help, but I am completely unfamiliar with that website...

Could you send me, and maybe others for other schemes too... A sort of WKB questionaire? I can just answer questions and you could use that info copy and paste to whatever layout you feel is best.

Would that work for you?
Title: Re: What kind of things would you like to see in Worms Knowledge Base?
Post by: FoxHound on May 03, 2024, 10:07 PM
FoxHound, [...] could you send me, and maybe others for other schemes too... A sort of WKB questionaire? I can just answer questions and you could use that info copy and paste to whatever layout you feel is best.

Not sure if I understood what is a WKB questionnaire. What I was asking was simply a revision of the future article, I would just ask you to read to see if there's something that could be better in your opinion. I would fix the article myself anyway.

However I liked the idea of a WKB questionnaire. I could improve some scheme articles by asking information to scheme authorities of determined schemes. I already do that, but making it more consistently and objectively would be interesting, but a bit of extra work. I remember doing this for Trick Race article, I discovered that a Brazilian player created it in 2001, even though the idea was born independently a lot of times ages ago.

About familiarity to the wiki, everything there is based in copy/paste. Even myself do this in all articles I write. Wiki format is basically HTML but with some things a bit different. You can write everything using only HTML there, I believe.