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Title: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 09, 2010, 12:37 AM
Gogo vote.

Try not to vote on schemes you suck at, but only on those you simply find boring, stupid, crap.

???
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Turko on December 09, 2010, 12:48 AM
t17 and bng
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Maciej on December 09, 2010, 01:01 AM
t17 is funny, bng is all about skill and playing vs good players who don't play cheap is good fun too. IMO shoppa is kind of boring scheme, but it should stay as I has got long tradition. I find a lot of luck in normal scheme, but as long as it isn't in classic league I don't care. Hysteria is good scheme too, really funny, the funniest scheme out of the list, and there is needed skill, and good tactic/thinking. ttrr - best rope scheme. Roper should stay even if I suck in this :P IMO everything's good ;D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Dub-c on December 09, 2010, 01:38 AM
I'm only allowed to kill two schemes  :'(
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Kaleu on December 09, 2010, 01:52 AM
Shopper ...
I will not say why i voted, i think everyone already knows  ;)

Ang BnG is boring ...
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 07:19 AM
BnG is boring, when played by the average player, but b2b and a2b make BnG look good :)

I voted for Normal, because 1st off, Normal has kidnapped Mablak, and Elites better.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Maciej on December 09, 2010, 08:12 AM
Lalo, I know you have voted for hysteria 3 times! arrr, His votes should be removed! :P
gj Komo, same vote here ^^
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 10:15 AM
Ok, I can understand why people are voting for BnG, mainly because most people can't get good enough to finish games fast and make it look good and they can only hit like 2% of all shots thrown, and they throw the lamest shots and complain when it happens to them, and darkside etc and moan games take too long lol, I mean seriously, most people I know that hate BnG even told me they think it looks fun/good when they see people like me and the rest of b2b play, so if you think that, why don't you learn??

^^ Yes, i'm in the huff because people slate my scheme :( Lol

But anyway why are so many people voting for Hysteria? It is such a fast paced game and the random placement only adds to the excitement, being one of the most played schemes on Wnet, I really thought this would have had the least votes, shock horror :O
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: rU` on December 09, 2010, 10:20 AM
Try not to vote on schemes you suck at

^
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Husk on December 09, 2010, 10:38 AM
its not a surprise some people vote for bng X; myself i like all
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 10:40 AM
I can't believe Hysteria is getting the same amount as BnG lol, but tomorrow BnG will be like 50 and Hysteria 20 or summin lol
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Camper on December 09, 2010, 11:02 AM
WxW and BnG
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ray on December 09, 2010, 11:07 AM
its not a surprise some people vote for bng X; myself i like all
It does surprise me. ??? I mean, it's a classic scheme, but unfortunately people these days can't really appreciate it for what it's worth. I myself got away from BnG because of people rolling in those 4 secs right next to you. ^^
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 11:10 AM
Ray, you should play more a2b then, I seen you at a number of Tournaments, take the next step and get a bit more active at a2b, it's getting active this season, mainly cuz i'm raping it lol, but it's making others play more, and it's getting interesting, some new faces that actually have talent, K1NG has major potential, he's very keen, anyway, see you tonight?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ramone on December 09, 2010, 11:46 AM
None of these schemes are plain awful imo.. Some of them I like better and some less.. But I like 'em all. None deserves to die painfully..  :'(
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 09, 2010, 11:49 AM
Interesting  :)

It's not a secret that I voted BnG myself, I just find it dull, even though I once was among the somewhat better players  :)

Hysteria might be because people suck at it, but I was expecting TTRR to get votes for the same reason (I suck at it, utterly, but the principle of the game is something I can't disapprove of).

Maybe the piling thing is the reason?

I made the poll in the first place to see which schemes could possibly need an upgrade funwise, to make it more interesting and loved and perhaps more suited for the masses. BnG might be loved by an elite of hardcore followers, but on a larger scale, it is a scheme that is pretty much neglected these days.
Not saying we should change it instantly (or even at all), but this poll may give some interesting numbers as to what schemes people dislike in TUS and perhaps form an inclination to reconsider certain aspects of the schemes to make them more appealing to everyone.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Abnaxus on December 09, 2010, 12:01 PM
but I was expecting TTRR to get votes for the same reason (I suck at it, utterly, but the principle of the game is something I can't disapprove of).
Try not to vote on schemes you suck at, but only on those you simply find boring, stupid, crap.

WxW: It's just a practice scheme, where you learn to be regular (no strategy, or less enough to look like so).
Apart from that, it's freaking boring (at least all new maps), and luck is too much involved in it (and no way to counter it).
It's between Shoppa and RR, but a damn bad balance.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: NinjaCamel on December 09, 2010, 12:21 PM
Bng for sure. And its not cuz i suck at it. I cant understand why ppl should be skilled at something not to hate it.

Wxw would be the second vote. Its just so dämn boring and lolos
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 12:31 PM
BnG might be loved by an elite of hardcore followers

Haha, I liked your choice of words there, that pretty much sums us all up xD

I am proud of that explanation xD

I honestly think more people would enjoy BnG if they could play like us (b2b)

But I am more than happy to know that a good handful of the best overall players in the world, like BnG :)

It would be nice to make BnG more fun for a larger scale of people, but how could you do that without totally changing the scheme the way it is now?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 09, 2010, 12:41 PM
It would be nice to make BnG more fun for a larger scale of people, but how could you do that without totally changing the scheme the way it is now?

The current scheme is much different from the original BnG. The way I see it is that BnG should revolve around the weapons Bazooka and Grenades (and similar weapons).

There's a lot that can be changed from the current scheme. There's the unanchored version, the possibility to add petrols, clusters, mortars, etc. Or SheepBnG, or experiment with fort-type maps, or pixelized maps. Etcetera.

Ofcourse you don't implement all of these (it would be a madhouse), but maybe 1 or 2 tiny changes can make the game much more than basic ping-pong. For example, make it unanchored but with only 3-5 seconds on the timer. Like the BnG in hysteria, but without the tele abuse and with just a few more seconds to aim so it isn't as twitchy.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Csongi on December 09, 2010, 01:05 PM
I'd take part @ BnG's funeral xDDDDDDDDD

(jk ;p)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 09, 2010, 01:23 PM
Yeah but HHC, adding ANY other weapon would take away the defination of "B" n "G".

Unanchored BnG, sorry to say, is just too easy.

I mean you can't really win, keeping it the way it is I think is perfect, but larger scale doesn't, adding other weapons would make it a madhouse like you said.

I use to love BnG with 1 HHG on 10 turn delay, most average TuS BnGs last about 30 minutes, and each player taking around 100 shots, I think putting BnG the way it is, with 1 HHG on like 20 turn delay could be interesting, but it would have to be something similar like this, Can't start off with zooks nades petrols clusters etc, it'd defy the defination of BnG, but maybe after a certain amount of turns, introduce a couple of other weapons with limited supply, like, after 10 turns, give 1 petrol, after 15 turns give 3 clusters (as they don't do alot of damage, but could be could for a little push or something), after 20 turns, give a single 1 star powered HHG.

That would spice things up a bit, while keeping it balanced on grenade and zook.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: zippeurfou on December 09, 2010, 01:46 PM
shopper and wxw dieeeeeeeeee :D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 09, 2010, 02:30 PM
Change my vote from proper to bng please. thanks.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ray on December 09, 2010, 03:10 PM
I believe people find BnG boring and dull because it takes long for them. Perhaps TUS could add an option, you could select from 2 types of schemes, one in which both players only have 100 HP and maybe 4 star weapons, faster sudden death. The other one would be the currently used scheme.

When playing BnG, players can agree upon which one to use (like Team17 with 7 girders or unlimited).
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Kaleu on December 09, 2010, 03:44 PM
I don't hate BnG, i like plays when i'm almost hitting all shots :D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Cueshark on December 09, 2010, 07:09 PM
Why isn't boom race on the list?  It's the only scheme that I'd bury to be long forgotten. 

Although I respect people who are experts in the finer details of this lovely game and it's that kind of person who tends to like boom race.

But let's burn it alive anyway! Rawr! :<
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 09, 2010, 08:01 PM
Why isn't boom race on the list?  It's the only scheme that I'd bury to be long forgotten. 

Although I respect people who are experts in the finer details of this lovely game and it's that kind of person who tends to like boom race.

But let's burn it alive anyway! Rawr! :<

Some maps of BattleRace make me think like that.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: NAiL on December 09, 2010, 08:16 PM
yeh none are plain awful, dont really see the point in this thread. I voted for bng and hysteria tho, hysteria needs a revamp, current scheme settings could be improved, gameplay could be better (supersheep on a 20 turn delay for example, one of many examples). I dont have a problem with bng, just dont enjoy a scheme where all you do is throw nades and shoot zooks.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Devilage on December 10, 2010, 08:55 AM
Hysteria>bng, bng its so boring having a stuck worm makes it more boring even that scheme should die chuck norris would agree with me, komo should bring his league here so we take bng off our league and ppl that enjoy the scheme can play it and the ones who think its annoying dont have to play coz some1 picks it that would f@#!ing rock.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Abnaxus on December 10, 2010, 10:16 AM
I guess people would like the old BnG more: 20sec, unanchored, nades, zooks and clusters (why not adding mortars if you wish, it's still in the context of BnG) and there was no rules except "don't be cheap".
But this rule is only about people: you don't have to, but if you don't, you'll just look like a faggot.

So maybe if we take it and add some rules of the current BnG scheme, it would be funnier.

We can also add all kind of nades (even holy) and just review the powers.
But if we do this, we would have to set clear rules which would be much more involved.

PS: Devilage's proposition sounds also cool.
Cause all real BnG players hate the way it is played in this league. So why not removing it ?
This way, BnG haters wouldn't have to play it, and BnG lovers wouldn't have to endure cheapers.
It makes less point for us, but more fun (which is the aim of Worms), so it's seriously welcome.
And as he said, we still get our a2b to play lovely BnGs.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 10, 2010, 10:26 AM
BnG is a standard scheme that should be in the league, no matter what.

However, I would not oppose a division between a 'hardcore' a2b league-scheme and a 'light' version of BnG to be used in TUS.
Dunno though if we can make a light version that is not equally as fun as the current scheme, but more fun. Perhaps we can make a scheme competition? That would be pretty cool and maybe give the new scheme the impetus it needs to conquer wormnet.

Perhaps the same for hysteria?


Btw.. this poll only measures dislike. I know both BnG and hysteria have a large following of dedicated fans as well. Let's not forget about that.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Abnaxus on December 10, 2010, 10:35 AM
Any other BnG scheme would win easly cause 90% of the players don't like the one we get there (which is this way after years of work).

Btw, why does people want to change the Hysteria scheme ? When it was released for the first time, many players loved it.
And we now can see some people changed their mind, can we just know why ? Could be helpfull.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Turko on December 10, 2010, 11:12 AM
i hate bng becouse is too long, if it was with 100 hp or 50 or homming missile xD maybe a cool scheme
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 10, 2010, 11:24 AM
That seems to be one of the biggest issues. I was just thinking about it.

But reducing it to 100 will piss off the elite guys who would finish the game in like 3 minutes. Thus, I was thinking, why not force SD on either the 0 or 5 min mark, with healthloss through nuke enabled. That way the elite guys still get to play with lots of energy, while at the same time putting a limit to the game time when players don't hit much. It would also add a touch of drama to the game.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 10, 2010, 01:26 PM
Or, put a 10 minute limit, whoever has the most health left after 10 minutes wins, this way you would still want to try and kill them before time runs out, cuz yeah putting it to 100hp, I could literally win so many games in 3 turns, and I know alot of other players who could achieve this easily too.

Devilage, it is so ignorant that you think like this about BnG, if we take BnG off the league, then we would have to do it with all schemes, just because BnG isn't the most popular scheme doesn't make it the least important, because I am sure there are people who don't like every other scheme but they don't go around asking for it to be removed from the league, I know people who hate Elite who hate TTRR who hate Roper who hate T17 who hate Shopper who hate WxW and who hate Hysteria, I don't see them say such things, BnG is one of the longest running schemes on WA, I would personally consider it more important than TTRR/Shopper/WxW/Hysteria, so if any scheme should be removed, it should be one of those 4, although I don't think any should be removed, these schemes are there to give everyone a chance to win things like Playoffs etc, everyone needs all schemes for different purposes.


I love BnG, without BnG I would end up quitting WA probably, at least never be active, I don't like Elite, it bores me to death, I really don't understand why it is as popular as it is, 1 mistake can ruin a game, other player getting lucky even though you play perfect can lose a game, I know this don't happen alot but I don't like such games I have to take chances and risks like this, however, I am VERY proud I have made so much from such a simple scheme with BnG, I respect Elite and everyone who plays it and the fact it brings alot of players together and creates friendships and good moments and memories, just because it bores me to death doesn't mean I want it removed from the league, you should have the same respect for BnG, b2b is an extremely fun community with alot of good events going and alot of kind-hearted and respectful players, it's like saying we(b2b) are useless because we are BnG based, we should be removed from Wnet lol (I know you don't say exactly this, I just say it is almost same thing, at least I feel like this).

But yeah, people should learn to respect all schemes, even if they don't like them, the way people act to other schemes is like being racist to other people, discrimination or some crap.

^^ Stop it.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on December 10, 2010, 02:00 PM
Or, put a 10 minute limit, whoever has the most health left after 10 minutes wins, this way you would still want to try and kill them before time runs out, cuz yeah putting it to 100hp, I could literally win so many games in 3 turns, and I know alot of other players who could achieve this easily too.

Wouldn't that lead to possible abuse? (once in the lead move to an impossible spot, or let your turn time run out every time)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 10, 2010, 02:52 PM
Or, put a 10 minute limit, whoever has the most health left after 10 minutes wins, this way you would still want to try and kill them before time runs out, cuz yeah putting it to 100hp, I could literally win so many games in 3 turns, and I know alot of other players who could achieve this easily too.

Wouldn't that lead to possible abuse? (once in the lead move to an impossible spot, or let your turn time run out every time)

Could just setup rules to prevent this, make the darkside rule more specific, make sure they make an effort, but I could see your arguement that a better side with hides would win.

My earlier suggestion, to add some limited weapons with turn delay is the best solution, either that, or people learn to play BnG better, which won't happen cuz most people are lazy to learn it like us.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Twyrfher on December 10, 2010, 05:32 PM
Shopper, at least the TuS version of the scheme -_- I'm tired of getting those f@#!ing baseball bats, firepunch(wtf is that on League Shopper!!) while my opponent gets holys, dynas... (and 1 baseball bat too xD).

I love Shopper, as I love my (new) gf (ZLLORO), but I don't wanna f@#! her for TuS.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 10, 2010, 06:39 PM
komo, is there a particular reason why you want TTRR/Shopper/WxW/Hysteria removed? or is it just because you don't like them and you have a stubborn happiness of what you are used to in a league?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 10, 2010, 06:57 PM
komo, is there a particular reason why you want TTRR/Shopper/WxW/Hysteria removed? or is it just because you don't like them and you have a stubborn happiness of what you are used to in a league?

so if any scheme should be removed, it should be one of those 4, although I don't think any should be removed

Learn to read, and stop trying to start petty arguements with me, it's pathetic, you don't see me arguing with anyone anymore do you? So why are you still doing it?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Abnaxus on December 10, 2010, 07:39 PM
Could just setup rules to prevent this, make the darkside rule more specific, make sure they make an effort, but I could see your arguement that a better side with hides would win.
Rules are for the moment totally useless, since mods accept tricks on them.

Only a strict moderation would lead to a possibility to use your solution (I insist on a the fact it will only increase the possibility).
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: DarkOne on December 10, 2010, 08:51 PM
komo, is there a particular reason why you want TTRR/Shopper/WxW/Hysteria removed? or is it just because you don't like them and you have a stubborn happiness of what you are used to in a league?

so if any scheme should be removed, it should be one of those 4, although I don't think any should be removed

Learn to read, and stop trying to start petty arguements with me, it's pathetic, you don't see me arguing with anyone anymore do you? So why are you still doing it?

(http://www.mksecrets.net/images/mk3/mk3-glitch17.png)

Sorry, couldn´t resist :)

I voted for WxW and T17 myself. I think WxW´s been explained well enough; it´s not about making good turns, it´s about actually finishing turns and having luck with crate locations and crate weapons. Fine for funners if you´re into that sort of thing, but I most certainly am not :)
I find T17 to be boring. Almost all turns before SD are about getting crates and placing your worms in good places afterwards with sometimes a couple of hits and then it´s SD and somebody wins cause he has a super sheep or a homing missile (or it´s a draw)

The thread certainly won´t result in any scheme being removed from TUS, but perhaps this can help start off a discussion about what could improve a scheme :) We all know schemes have evolved because of discussions later on (ropers used to be with more worms, a completely different level and even a dynamite way back).

As for BnG, I recall hosting a tourney once with specific rules; if you hit with a normal grenade, you´d have to hit with LG next and then a banking grenade before you could hit with a normal grenade again (and if you hit with a zook, you weren´t allowed to hit with zook again until you´ve hit with a grenade). Perhaps this type of scheme is not for all players, but the way it´s played with repeat shots and pushing the limits of the rules, it´s not even fun for avid fans.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Devilage on December 10, 2010, 09:51 PM
Nah I'm not ignorant dude why would I be! I just don't like the scheme and said an idea that doesn't make me ignorant I'm rly tired of u calling ppl like this everytime u don't agree with them u think ur so f@#!ing smart or w/e well don't answer this I don't want to start anything so try to absorve this comment and focus on the scheme stuff I still think that scheme should die, and if that makes u quit well it would make lots of ppl happy, not me but u get the flow.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 12:58 AM
komo, is there a particular reason why you want TTRR/Shopper/WxW/Hysteria removed? or is it just because you don't like them and you have a stubborn happiness of what you are used to in a league?

so if any scheme should be removed, it should be one of those 4, although I don't think any should be removed

Learn to read, and stop trying to start petty arguements with me, it's pathetic, you don't see me arguing with anyone anymore do you? So why are you still doing it?

I am not starting an argument.  I asked you a question.. don't you see the question mark? it was a question.  You just inferred something that I didn't imply. Not my fault LOL
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 01:34 AM
Shy, we both know exactly what you are trying to do here, and I ain't gonna get involved anymore after this post.

1st off, I know exactly what you said, cuz I said the exact same thing to you in the More 'Schemes'? thread, it is pathetic that you are carrying on an arguement that was finished 2-3 months ago, grow up already.

Secondly, the reason I said you are starting a petty arguement is already obvious if you read above,  you are pathetic for bringing this up after over 2 months, I never said anything about you inferring I wanted anything removed from TuS etc.

Devilage, you are ignorant because you feel BnG should die, and don't givva flying f**k about the people who actually like it, I don't intend to annoy you or anything, it's just the way it is, I still respect you n everything, but your statement IS ignorant mate.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 01:42 AM
I am just trying to be more like you, komo... ignoring all the points you made and replacing them with what I think is really going on... and you and I both know that you and I know what you really think.  you want bng to remain just because you like it more than the other schemes... you are BIASED... you like bng more than the others so your opinion is BIASED so i am just gonna disregard your other points because they are irrelevant.  At the end of the day, 9 times out of 10, you and I both know your opinion towards bng is biased because you like it and hate the other schemes, end of story. PERIOD.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Kaleu on December 11, 2010, 01:47 AM
OMFG turning this a fight
close this topic please xDDDD
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 01:50 AM
I just find it ironic that komo can't handle his own style of arguing when it is he who is getting attacked by it from someone else.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ramone on December 11, 2010, 02:03 AM
Hey putos chill out now, not every thread have to end up with a stupid fight! None of the schemes are not going to die really! HHC have made this topic just to seek for some opinions (I guess..?) Lets see some constructive ideas..

Anyway - I cannot locate the problem.
The whole thread is like democracy these days - fake. What is the question here and what is the problem? Ok, the question is: "Which schemes should die a painful death?" But... wtf? .. to die as TUS classic league scheme or to die in general? (I wonder that cause this topic is in "Other Things > Worms Armageddon" topic, not in "TUS (League) Discussion"..)

I wonder why should any scheme "die"? Maybe no scheme needs to "die painful death", maybe we need to add some more? ;x
Maybe we need to change the way of competition? Maybe there's another way to improve competitions..? Maybe.. .  . . . But what is the problem?

If there's a problem, some1 needs to define it.. and then we'll all suggest ideas to solve it.. I guess that's the way TUS works..

If BnG scheme is the problem on TUS league, lets just make another topic with endless BnG discussion and try to solve it once again.. ? huuh?

I play funners for like 90% of my games and I think that's the reason I might have objective view on competitive games.. For competitive games I had few radical ideas:
-merge league and cups into 1 thing. Different rules, real deadlines, real competitions.. (prevents inactivity, multi-clans, aliasing..)
-make separated league/cup for every scheme.. (anyway we have it in a way now.. (NNN, a2b, ea, ttrr challenges..))
-make categories (low/medium/high or easy/medium/hard) and let every category be played with different rules/schemes/maps.. (prevents "noob bashing" and enables for each scheme to be played on exact level with different category of player.. i.e. let the "easy level" players play and compete with ttrr with times like 3:12 - 2:58 and "hard level" players with 0:41,2 - 0:41,6... let "easy level" players play BnG with repeated shots and "hard level" players with a2b rules.. etc.. )

It's just some raw ideas, don't hang me for them plz, I know I might be wrong.. ;x
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:15 AM
I've said it once, i've said it twice, now i'll say it one more time:

"although I don't think any should be removed"
^^ referring to schemes.

I don't hate any scheme, I just like BnG so much it might look like this, I like all other schemes (in TuS Classic), definately not as much as BnG, that's obvious.

Shyguy, just stop it, this isn't getting you anywhere, you seem so desperate to argue with me all the time lol.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 02:23 AM
"I've said it once, i've said it twice, now i'll say it one more time:

"although I don't think any should be removed"
^^ referring to schemes."

Wow!!! how does it feel to have to keep repeating your point whenever someone ignores them and accuses you of something else? because that is what you always do, and then you get upset when people do it to you... you kill debates and discussions just by getting involved in them, because you can say whatever you want to say, and others can't.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:25 AM
It doesn't bother me, I feel sorry for you actually, for dragging on an arguement from the past that ended months ago lol.

I will keep repeating it, until you understand, except when I repeat it, I don't start swearing losing my temper and insulting you.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 02:32 AM
I'm dragging it on because it is still relevant... you have an opinion on schemes, I am ignoring your reasoning, you are getting upset.  That is exactly what happened before, except we played different roles.  You used the same arguments I am using against you... and you getting upset about that just proves in an indirect sort of way that you acknowledge your debate style as being stupid and annoying. well done.  Like i said, you kill discussions because you always think you are right and you can't handle what anyone else says... proof of that is in your super long posts. gg no0b
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:37 AM
I wonder what it would be like to live a day as ShyGuy, maybe something like this:



Man it cracks me up so much that you think you make me "upset" and "angry" etc lol, it really does.

I don't think I am right here, I know I am right, you are acting like a 2 year old Shy, get over it lol.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 02:39 AM
Shy, we both know exactly what you are trying to do here, and I ain't gonna get involved anymore after this post.

And yet you still got involved after that post. Because you are upset. gg no0b
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:43 AM
Oh whoopdee doo, someone call the cops - I decided to change my mind, SHOCK HORROR, just like I said I wouldn't TuS ever again but i've been doing alot of BnG on TuS recently, just like countless people say they will never play WA again, yet they keep doing it, like millions of people around the world say when they are hungover "I'll never drink again" yet they do it the next weekend.

And you also look like such a geek typing "gg no0b" in the forums :)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 02:44 AM
You changed your mind turned into a hypocrite again because you were upset.  gg no0b
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:46 AM
Such a mature arguement from Shyguy.

*Round of applause*
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 02:52 AM
Do you use mozilla firefox, komo?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 02:55 AM
Anyway, back to the subject, Ramone, I think you got some nice ideas there, only problem is, will people be willing to follow through with them?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ramone on December 11, 2010, 11:27 AM
Well dunno.. That's why I've mention it, to see what others thinks about it..
It's a big change, not sure could it be accepted.. But if it would improve competitive level of this game, and give chance to attract new players to compete (and keep old ones at the same time) then why not? If any of U smarties thinks there's something worth in my idea I'll explain it more detailed and we can discuss/build it..

Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 11:43 AM
I'd like to see you eleborate on your ideas a bit more, and anything you can come up with, any suggestion could turn into the best idea ever, anything is possible :)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Devilage on December 11, 2010, 09:42 PM
Bah this thread it's to erase a scheme atm bng its gonna die (I hope) komo u love drama don't u? u know that shy doesnt like u why u keep responding? u r stupid.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 09:46 PM
Whatever Dev, I am responding to Ramone, I'll do what I want.

No scheme is gonna die, this is just a random vote that I hardly think is going to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Devilage on December 11, 2010, 09:52 PM
As community this kind of threads should be taken serious.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 11, 2010, 09:54 PM
What?

How can you say that? So just because 15 people voted for BnG and 14 people voted for Hysteria, the countless amount of people who love those schemes, f@#! those people?

That's a bit unfair isn't it?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Devilage on December 11, 2010, 10:12 PM
Community,league,people who play leagues, tus-wa.com, vote.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: nino on December 11, 2010, 10:13 PM
iam posting here just to tell u all something.  >:(




ae  ;D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: THeDoGG on December 12, 2010, 01:55 PM
BnG : Most boring scheme

Shopper : Kind of lucky scheme, if you got good weapons you win
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: nino on December 12, 2010, 02:46 PM
Shopper : Kind of lucky scheme, if you got good weapons you win

same goes to t17 when 2 skilled elite players are in the game = /
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: THeDoGG on December 12, 2010, 03:04 PM
Shopper : Kind of lucky scheme, if you got good weapons you win

same goes to t17 when 2 skilled elite players are in the game = /

Yes true, but I could only choose 2 schemes, t17 is the 3rd one :)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: nino on December 12, 2010, 03:43 PM
Shopper : Kind of lucky scheme, if you got good weapons you win

same goes to t17 when 2 skilled elite players are in the game = /

Yes true, but I could only choose 2 schemes, t17 is the 3rd one :)

ye true, but it doesnot matter still lucky xD
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Ramone on December 12, 2010, 04:19 PM
I've voted "I like all" + I like some more that are not mentioned here:
Kaos
Tower
Mole Shopper
Big RR
Golf
WfW
CtF
Wascar
Burning Girders
Boom Race
Jetpack Race
Battle Race

How about putting them all in competitions?
Anyone mind?

edit: I've forgot Forts and Plop War, also 2 awesome schemes..   :)

edit2: HHC, U really think some schemes should die or what's this poll about? Just an amusement and curiosity? ;x
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Wiz on December 15, 2010, 10:13 PM
As a competitive wormer, I like playing:

Battle Race
BnG
Elite
Fort
Roper
Rope Race
Team17
Shopper (from time to time, only on Dogma City map)

All other schemes can die. Years ago when there were so many pros playing actively, in the times or CL2K and FB, these were pretty much all the schemes which were played so it made people get good at them all. In this generation of WA with schemes such as Plop War and Burning Girders no wonder so many players suck xD
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on December 16, 2010, 07:40 AM
In this generation of WA with schemes such as Plop War and Burning Girders no wonder so many players suck xD

Gotta agree with that to a certain extent, but saying that, you try and beat them at those schemes, I bet they own you at them lol.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: dilligaf on December 16, 2010, 09:19 AM
youcrazy. Why is BnG so high ;/ It's the best scheme
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Agneau on January 03, 2011, 06:08 PM
GO TO HELL HYSTERIA AND TAKE UR FRIEND SHOPPER ON THE WAY !!!!!!
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: nino on January 03, 2011, 06:13 PM
ROFL!!!!
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Abnaxus on January 04, 2011, 11:24 AM
Take care of your word Agneau, I get your adress & Rash's one !

(http://a7.idata.over-blog.com/499x381/1/83/03/55/rm-pb-agneaux.jpg)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Agneau on January 04, 2011, 11:28 AM
how did u get a pic of me? :o!!where are ya? behind me... im scared!
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on January 04, 2011, 11:40 AM
Quote
Hannibal Lecter: Then something woke you, didn't it? Was it a dream? What was it?
Clarice Starling: I heard a strange noise.
Hannibal Lecter: What was it?
Clarice Starling: It was... screaming. Some kind of screaming, like a child's voice.
Hannibal Lecter: What did you do?
Clarice Starling: I went downstairs, outside. I crept up into the barn. I was so scared to look inside, but I had to.
Hannibal Lecter: And what did you see, Clarice? What did you see?
Clarice Starling: Lambs. The lambs were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: They were slaughtering the spring lambs?
Clarice Starling: And they were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: And you ran away?
Clarice Starling: No. First I tried to free them. I... I opened the gate to their pen, but they wouldn't run. They just stood there, confused. They wouldn't run.
Hannibal Lecter: But you could and you did, didn't you?
Clarice Starling: Yes. I took one lamb, and I ran away as fast as I could.
Hannibal Lecter: Where were you going, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: I don't know. I didn't have any food, any water and it was very cold, very cold. I thought, I thought if I could save just one, but... he was so heavy. So heavy. I didn't get more than a few miles when the sheriff's car picked me up. The rancher was so angry he sent me to live at the Lutheran orphanage in Bozeman. I never saw the ranch again.
Hannibal Lecter: What became of your lamb, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: They killed him.

Aweee, I tried to save you Agneau, but you were too heavy, too heavy!!

 :'(
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Liberty on January 05, 2011, 01:57 AM
As a neutral whos only came back to worm 1 week and has only discovered Hysteria! It sucks balls lol
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Agneau on January 05, 2011, 11:08 AM
:'( hhc u gave me up on the road!

im on a diet! lies im not fat u just have to work out hhc ^^
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: Korydex on June 06, 2017, 06:56 PM
WxW!!!
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on June 07, 2017, 03:59 AM
Lol Kory are you dying for drama so bad just watch tv mate.

You can't be that bored surely  ;D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: MeTonaTOR on June 07, 2017, 05:48 AM
*insert golden showel award image*
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: STRGRN on June 07, 2017, 05:59 AM
all roping schemes suck
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: h3oCharles on June 07, 2017, 04:04 PM
Any scheme of mine with overcomplicated rules
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: surgeon on June 07, 2017, 05:50 PM
BnG and hysteria on top..

Now I believe that WA  is dying

Magic bullet shoting skill will be the most wanted in future, trust me

Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: STRGRN on June 07, 2017, 06:09 PM
Any scheme of STRGRN with overcomplicated rules

fixed your typo

this is what you actually meant
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: h3oCharles on June 07, 2017, 06:47 PM
Any scheme of STRGRN with overcomplicated rules

fixed your typo

this is what you actually meant
lol nice revenge

go look at KarBoyConstruct then
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: HHC on June 07, 2017, 07:14 PM
BnG and hysteria on top..

Now I believe that WA  is dying

Poll closed 6 years ago.

You were right  :D
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: surgeon on June 07, 2017, 08:30 PM
It was sarcastic ;)
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: nino on June 07, 2017, 11:29 PM
It was sarcastic ;)

Lies!!! puto!!!

PS: It was sarcastic ;)

Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: TheKomodo on June 08, 2017, 06:16 AM
This poll is based on mostly an English speaking community, and traditions...

Hysteria is probably the most popular/fun scheme of all time that fits both competitive games and fun games, if not Shopper.

BnG/TTRR/Elite have more of an acquired taste, absolutely nothing wrong with any of them, anyone who says otherwise should learn to tolerate harmless things that other people find fun, or cut their fingers off and feed them to their pet reindeer, either is fine with me :)

If any scheme should die a painful death, it's Comet Dodging.
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: XanKriegor on June 08, 2017, 06:38 AM
And Supersheeper, right?
Title: Re: Which schemes should die a painful death?
Post by: STRGRN on June 08, 2017, 08:02 AM
BnG/TTRR/Elite have more of an acquired taste, absolutely nothing wrong with any of them, anyone who says otherwise should learn to tolerate harmless things that other people find fun, or cut their fingers off and feed them to their pet reindeer, either is fine with me :)

thank god i dont have a pet reindeer