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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Lancelot on August 20, 2022, 02:46 PM
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Yes, I'm forced to create a topic here, because the mayhem on the WormNET server that one player creates makes it look like the official armageddon worm server is not moderated.
I'm talking about the Shark (ukraine flag and constantly playing mole shopper).
This inadequate player, in addition to insults in private messages, uses other people's nicknames to create chaos on the channel and confuse other players. Yes, he does this exclusively with Russian players: me (Lancelot), Slayer, QUATROUBLE, SVD, GooD-HasH and others. This has been happening for over a month now, maybe more than.
I contacted Steps, but he does not answer, I also turned to Deadcode in the discord, which also does not answer. Or they deliberately ignore my messages, thereby encouraging morons and fools who do what they want with impunity.
Now the audience's question is - how realistic it is to force the player to be punished, and how realistic it is to reproach the person who should be responsible for the order on the server?
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I already made a topic on Identity Theft and not much really happened since then.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tech-support/identity-theft-abuse-33934/
Hopefully the more people that speak up against this, could resolve the issue? Who knows. Not Like Team17 prioritizes WA.
I wonder if it is possible for TUS accounts to be linked to WormNET usernames.. I feel like I talked about this before... ???
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I wrote it in T17 server on discord lots of times ago and we shouldn't ask them.
The only people who could do that are the ones who got the permission to modify stuff of the game.
If I could I would moderate WormNET without problems, but it looks like even moderating a server requires some time to be set up.
Moreover I don't think Deadcode and StepS don't answer on purpose, maybe they are working for the 3.9 stuff and may forget to answer or better they are instead very busy and cannot answer properly in that moment.
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I also opened a thread about this 2 years ago in 2020, it was my first post on TUS. I think that was the reason for me joining this site. I complained about a brazilian player called "renkiller" who stole my nickname very often and called everyone the N word on wormnet in my name and repetitive idiotic things like "shemale cuck go die", sadly a few people even believed that it was me and that I was rascist. Just like in this situation, my nickname wasn't the only one renkiller stole and aliased, there were at least a dozen of us, it was annoying. And it was always the same concept, renkiller losing a game, or being kicked from a room for his previous quittings, he got mad, and in return he stole a person's nickname and sat on the lobby 0-24h to spread shit. After a while he got bored of doing this and thankfully disappeared. Trashtalking happens daily basis on AG that will never change, it's a part of us :-* But stealing another player's nickname out of pitiful revenge and pretending to be him and spreading toxic messages in his name is the lowest kind of scum behaviour, this really needs to change. If you write shit or trashtalk, do it from your own name and show your identity ;) :-\ :-\ :-\ Be straight, have a spine.
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I wrote it in T17 server on discord lots of times ago and we shouldn't ask them.
The only people who could do that are the ones who got the permission to modify stuff of the game.
If I could I would moderate WormNET without problems, but it looks like even moderating a server requires some time to be set up.
Moreover I don't think Deadcode and StepS don't answer on purpose, maybe they are working for the 3.9 stuff and may forget to answer or better they are instead very busy and cannot answer properly in that moment.
Well, in this case, WormNET needs a moderator so that I do not blame specific people in vain. at the moment the moderator, as I understand it, Steps. and the moderator is obliged to keep order, at least sometimes scroll through the logs or watch the chat in real time. and since this does not happen, then the moderator is inactive, and chaos may occur on the server
for example, I'm tired of changing my nickname and blocking various fake nicknames in snooper with offensive messages.
Yes, WA discord are a good idea, and the only thing you can do is show a link here and get a certain reaction to this call. I don't think the conflicts will end there.
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WormNET is not a place to chat though. It is first and foremost a place to set up games. Not to chat about everyday life and so on. If somebody is being offensive, just Ignore them and move on. It isn't your job to sit through and read chat in real time. It is a game where you log into and play your games.
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WormNET is not a place to chat though. It is first and foremost a place to set up games. Not to chat about everyday life and so on. If somebody is being offensive, just Ignore them and move on. It isn't your job to sit through and read chat in real time. It is a game where you log into and play your games.
If you do not understand the meaning and consequences of this case, you do not need to comment on this matter. After all, you are not kicked from the games, looking at your flag, under which you play? That's not the point, but you should put yourself in my place before you write nonsense ???
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WormNET is not a place to chat though. It is first and foremost a place to set up games. Not to chat about everyday life and so on. If somebody is being offensive, just Ignore them and move on. It isn't your job to sit through and read chat in real time. It is a game where you log into and play your games.
If you do not understand the meaning and consequences of this case, you do not need to comment on this matter. After all, you are not kicked from the games, looking at your flag, under which you play? That's not the point, but you should put yourself in my place before you write nonsense ???
If people are removed from games due to their ethnicity, then it reveals more about their character. Why would you associate yourself with the likes of them? Just avoid people that boots you, and let others make up their own mind about you. There will always be villains and bad guys, Including here on WA too. No need to complain that you got kicked of your ethnicity. You cannot force people to play with you.
My opinion is a general value and a belief. It matters in the grand schemes of things. A person should not be able to surpress it. We already got that enough going on already.
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WormNET is a place to host games, of course, but this doesn't mean everyone can do whatever they want without respecting the others.
Being kicked from games because of someone's flag is another topic btw. Because of that, of course, a moderator couldn't do too much because it is a different thing from a game to another. Yet, WormNET shouldn't be a place where people should lack of respect, insult or stealing other people's nickname to fool others or to make fun of the owner of that nickname.
Everyone comes with a problem and we should cooperate together to find a solution and let's keep talking on a cooperative point of view.
A moderator or two could be a solution, with a set of rules to be said and a sort of vademecum for the moderator is fundamental.
Or maybe this would be part of the next patch...? :)
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It also annoys me that, for example, the Brazilian host fires me because I'm Hungarian. And I even wrote down the rules. Ok, sometimes I'm a hypocrite too... But that's why need some kind of registration.
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WormNET is a remnant of the old past, it doesn't need to be Infected with speech control. You cannot force respect down people's throat by Implementing laws and regulation that goes against their values.
If someone does not respect someone, you can either IGNORE and move on. However, if someone exhibits disrespect overwhelmingly on a regular basis, there should be Indeed a consequence. We should not however silence and ban people over the ''wrong kind of opinion'', and phrasing.
Instead of Implementing rules and extreme moderation, just add new feature to the game that allows a user to shield themselves from negativity.
Also, getting removed from host room is NOT a problem, as I mentioned previously.
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WormNET is based on IRC, that alone should already raise some red flags
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I think the devs are aware of this issue. I think that if this were easy to solve, it would be already solved. Probably the main issue is Team17 permission. It's sad that cool stuff are being implemented in the game, but basic quality of life things such as having a f@#!ing account (like every online game) is not a thing yet.
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I think the devs are aware of this issue. I think that if this were easy to solve, it would be already solved. Probably the main issue is Team17 permission. It's sad that cool stuff are being implemented in the game, but basic quality of life things such as having a f@#!ing account (like every online game) is not a thing yet.
This is a serious enough thing to ignore. I can understand developers who have no interest in games that came out a long time ago and do not bring them tangible income. I would like to hear from those who work with game updates and understand these things more. And also MI, who twice refused me to change the flag for justified reasons (yes, all players should be allowed to choose a country, but not abused, once every 6 months, it would be great). :)
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WormNET is based on IRC, that alone should already raise some red flags
Usually IRC servers have a way of registering a nickname, why us this totally lacking it?
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there's not much you can do about it. w:a doesn't have an account system like modern games, to suspend particular accounts. cybershadow paid attention to wormnet moderation, but it all came down to manually identifying bad actors and ip blocking, which is easy to bypass.
in any case, the freedom of the w:a is much better than the reporting system of today's games (and services in general), where you randomly get banned for breaking services gibberish rules. ye, some people can waste their life time to fake you in worms armageddon. it's so miserable, you shouldn't even bother. just enjoy the game. it's been like that for 20 years here, no one really cares
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there's not much you can do about it. w:a doesn't have an account system like modern games, to suspend particular accounts. cybershadow paid attention to wormnet moderation, but it all came down to manually identifying bad actors and ip blocking, which is easy to bypass.
in any case, the freedom of the w:a is much better than the reporting system of today's games (and services in general), where you randomly get banned for breaking services gibberish rules. ye, some people can waste their life time to fake you in worms armageddon. it's so miserable, you shouldn't even bother. just enjoy the game. it's been like that for 20 years here, no one really cares
Maybe you're right, bro, but the order on wormnet should still be
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Impossible speaks truth. 8)
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Well, if mods are so much of a "threat" to freedom speech (not at all but let's skip this topic :D), a login service could be the solution I think, so at least everyone's identity couldn't be stolen anymore.
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You can't ban somebody who will most likely return with a new IP 5 minutes later. That's usually the case.
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You guys care too much... Just type /ignore and move on.
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in any case, the freedom of the w:a is much better than the reporting system of today's games (and services in general), where you randomly get banned for breaking services gibberish rules.
I don't agree with this, because in WA people are banned for NO REASON all the time, while on other games such as League of Legends the people I know that complained about being banned were indeed very toxic playing the game. So the company really has more control to punish toxic players and benefit the ones with good behavior. I think I was banned only for a few days and the company was right about it. Also, toxic people are usually addicted to the game. They play because their life are not ok, so they play to "escape" from the problems and they discharge all the fury and hate on other players.
People should be able to play with other nicknames if they want, but people should know which account the nick belongs. Also, I think that if people change nicknames all the time, this is not cool, becomes it turns into a mess. After changing a nickname people should need to wait some good time to be able to change again.
ye, some people can waste their life time to fake you in worms armageddon. it's so miserable, you shouldn't even bother. just enjoy the game. it's been like that for 20 years here, no one really cares
Well, some people do care, but I agree that it is better to ignore. The more replies and audience you give to the troll, the more the troll will see that his work is affecting you, or that he is becoming famous so it will encourage him/her to continue. But, I think it is better when you have the power to remove toxic people from activity and erase racist/LGBTphobic, Xenophobic comments from the community.
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in any case, the freedom of the w:a is much better than the reporting system of today's games (and services in general), where you randomly get banned for breaking services gibberish rules.
I don't agree with this, because in WA people are banned for NO REASON all the time, while on other games such as League of Legends the people I know that complained about being banned were indeed very toxic playing the game. So the company really has more control to punish toxic players and benefit the ones with good behavior. I think I was banned only for a few days and the company was right about it. Also, toxic people are usually addicted to the game. They play because their life are not ok, so they play to "escape" from the problems and they discharge all the fury and hate on other players.
People should be able to play with other nicknames if they want, but people should know which account the nick belongs. Also, I think that if people change nicknames all the time, this is not cool, becomes it turns into a mess. After changing a nickname people should need to wait some good time to be able to change again.
ye, some people can waste their life time to fake you in worms armageddon. it's so miserable, you shouldn't even bother. just enjoy the game. it's been like that for 20 years here, no one really cares
Well, some people do care, but I agree that it is better to ignore. The more replies and audience you give to the troll, the more the troll will see that his work is affecting you, or that he is becoming famous so it will encourage him/her to continue. But, I think it is better when you have the power to remove toxic people from activity and erase racist/LGBTphobic, Xenophobic comments from the community.
Or increase control over it. At the moment, based on the words written above, there is no one to moderate the server. On any server there should be a person who, although rarely, would look after the order. But we do not even have a rare moderation, and this is not good
The question is, how realistic is it to somehow punish violators on WormNET?
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You guys care too much... Just type /ignore and move on.
1. can you use that on WormNET channel lobbies?
2. does the collective list of ignores get stored somewhere so one doesn't have to type out the entire list every time one joins WormNET?
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You guys care too much... Just type /ignore and move on.
1. can you use that on WormNET channel lobbies?
2. does the collective list of ignores get stored somewhere so one doesn't have to type out the entire list every time one joins WormNET?
With Great Snooper you can make an Ignore list and it is saved by default.
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Yes, I understand the humor of some players, as well as the inability to suggest things. Instead, they begin to flood into a topic that requires serious attention from higher-ranking people in worms.
And yes, several days have passed, and none of the representatives of the server moderation have responded to the call that I threw in the discord. A certain conclusion suggests itself that it is not interesting for anyone to ensure order and adequacy on the server. However, the usual situation, as in our country. You are no different from us, and are also mired in a swamp, like everyone else.
Technologies are developing, artificial intelligence is gaining independence, and we are still not able to punish the damn handicapped morons.
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sooo as of today, ukranian player Shark is stealing my nickname now, and sitting on snooper 0-24H :D spamming me with useless messages almost all day long from various nicknames that he is stealing from others and pretending to be them.
the screenshot below shows that he's sitting on "Lupastic" name, and I'm from Lupastic`FS.
(https://i.ibb.co/pXXPFPK/image.png)
if any of you guys want to schedule something or ask from games, message me on Lupastic`FS :-* damn Shark, I really feel sorry for your "life"
today and in the past days Shark is stealing the nicknames of at least 5 players, including Slayer, GoodHash, Mai, Lancelot, Maxko + me now. on the 3 attached files below here shows it is not Slayer, Mai, etc writing those sentences, it's all Shark xd this guy is crazy, needs to be put on medications ;D
monkeyisland, don't delete my comments once again pls, and don't lock the forum threads, we would like to express our opinions when something like this happens, and you're just making it a bit more difficult :) I know you don't visit wormnet, but we do. and this is the easiest way to let people know who care about it ofc : ]
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He writes in caps sentences like those in the screenshot I made from websnoop (currently I am not at the pc)
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I am victim as well. My flag is not Mexican.
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I think I'll stop calling moderators respectable, they don't do their job.
I'm also willing to keep my shit to myself to pour it on WormNeT moderator's head.
But let him not worry, if he is not alone, there will be enough for everyone, be sure D:
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he PM me it's shark 100%
(https://i.ibb.co/z8Mndnx/image.jpg)
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he PM me it's shark 100%
how to guess 100% it's not me is that Lupastic can only write the most basic russian insults - nothing else, and only with latin letters :D poka
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he PM me it's shark 100%
how to guess 100% it's not me is that Lupastic can only write the most basic russian insults - nothing else, and only with latin letters :D poka
look my screen, i update msg
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Shark is a sick soul lonely man. He stole many nicknames like: GooD-HasH-SnooP..Slayer..Maxko..Mai..and many others.. He writes insults in chat and private messages. He is 30+ years old xD. I propose to write a collective complaint to the admin to be banned by IP. And ban on this site.
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Thats all Shart
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Player "Shark" writes from different nicknames every day, tries to quarrel off people and calls to kill ukrainian children. Admins should ban him.[attachment=1]
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https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tech-support/identity-theft-abuse-33934/new/#attachment_gallery[msg286962]/0/
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I will be monitoring WN for a while. If you see such kind of abuses, please PM or IM me on TUS. I'll have a look and ban the offending member on WN.
@GooD-HasH,
Please don't spam like that. All of those messages could fit into one single post.
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I'd like to say a big thanks to whoever came to wormnet as a mod and regulated Shark finally (: He no longer steals any nicknames, only uses his own + ukranian flag, no more fake bullshits. This surely worked. If it was you MI, ty ^^
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I'd like to say a big thanks to whoever came to wormnet as a mod and regulated Shark finally (: He no longer steals any nicknames, only uses his own + ukranian flag, no more fake bullshits. This surely worked. If it was you MI, ty ^^
Yes, several requests about the need for a moderator to be present on worm net have come to fruition. Now we just need to be vigilant.
Anyway, MI, thank you for finally paying attention :)
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lol, welcome to wormNET. It's pretty much always been like this. Just install wkKick38 and call it a day.
Personally IMO its almost refreshing these days to see such an uncensored space on the internet.
Sure people can be dicks as a result. But you can always retaliate and blow off some steam then kick.
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lol, welcome to wormNET. It's pretty much always been like this. Just install wkKick38 and call it a day.
Personally IMO its almost refreshing these days to see such an uncensored space on the internet.
Sure people can be dicks as a result. But you can always retaliate and blow off some steam then kick.
As you can already understand, there are no problems with the nickname in the game. there is a person whose life is so bad that he sits online for days and shits in the chat on the channel. The essence of my question was whether there are more or less active moderators on wormnet.
MI will not cope alone, because he is also a person and he has his own life and his own time, which he is not obliged to spend on a moron who uses it and gloats. It amazes me that in this day and age, when technology and other things are developing, it is very difficult to punish a player who discredits other players using other people's snooper nicknames.
Moreover, this is the official t17 server, but there is no justice on it. Is this right?
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Unfortunately Shark still hasn't stopped this timewasting shit troll activity, MI is banning him almost every day from wormnet due to Echiko's + mine reports about him :) Btw Shark is available on TUS as well, not long ago I saw him reading this thread, his nickname is: Requin
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Yes, an hour ago I was banned, mistaking for a Shark. Oh thank you, justice, now I understand how righteous it is to kill such assholes in a real life.
Although no, I would make them suffer all their lives, chopping off all limbs - arms, legs and breaking their nose so that they would not learn to do anything. True justice in these things
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What?
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Yes, an hour ago I was banned, mistaking for a Shark. Oh thank you, justice, now I understand how righteous it is to kill such assholes in a real life.
Although no, I would make them suffer all their lives, chopping off all limbs - arms, legs and breaking their nose so that they would not learn to do anything. True justice in these things
Violence is the answer? VITA-Lancelot.
Best course of action, is to Ignore, and move on. Stop obsessing with nobodies. The more you do that, the more meaning you add to their existence. Villains will eventually fall into obscurity if you Ignore by treating them as nonliving entities.
lol, welcome to wormNET. It's pretty much always been like this. Just install wkKick38 and call it a day.
Personally IMO its almost refreshing these days to see such an uncensored space on the internet.
Sure people can be dicks as a result. But you can always retaliate and blow off some steam then kick.
I agree. We all should be so happy that WormNET is left untouched by censor hungry entities. People should be able to express themselves freely without having to worry about being censored and banned, provided that it is in the confinement of reason. If you start banning and censoring people you don't like and disagree with, then that's a slippery slope.
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Yes, an hour ago I was banned, mistaking for a Shark. Oh thank you, justice, now I understand how righteous it is to kill such assholes in a real life.
Although no, I would make them suffer all their lives, chopping off all limbs - arms, legs and breaking their nose so that they would not learn to do anything. True justice in these things
Well for this words you deserve to be banned also! Maybe even more than Shark.
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Yes, an hour ago I was banned, mistaking for a Shark. Oh thank you, justice, now I understand how righteous it is to kill such assholes in a real life.
Although no, I would make them suffer all their lives, chopping off all limbs - arms, legs and breaking their nose so that they would not learn to do anything. True justice in these things
Well for this words you deserve to be banned also! Maybe even more than Shark.
I'm just tired of changing nicknames constantly because of hopelessness, I want justice to be done
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Go with the time and change your nickname daily. Thats modern thats refreshing and you will always get in AG just fine. Plus it is sexy
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Go with the time and change your nickname daily.
nope, it's called either schizophrenia or paranoid schizo, or borderline personality disorder :D
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Nope
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lmao, the solution is to not get so annoyed that you start going on about killing and torture.
Even if a miracle happened and moderation got 100 times better it still wouldn't matter. It can easily take less than a minute to change IP and nickname making it impossible to stop it.
If you want to keep using wormnet you should really learn to chill out more and not let such things get to you so much.
As it stands you are basically these people's ideal trolling target.
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omg, i really didn't know this.
shark, man, VN1!!!! you are the best.
You are my soul when i left wa
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