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All About TUS => Announcements => Topic started by: MonkeyIsland on April 20, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Due to constant activity drop in TEL, we've decided to disable it after the current season. Ideas about improving TEL or what to do with such cases are welcome.
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awww :(
gg TEL i love you!!!!
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Noooooes! You can't do that! :S
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oh nooo :/
I liked playing in TEL...
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Due to constant activity drop in TEL, we've decided to disable it after the current season. Ideas about improving TEL or what to do with such cases are welcome.
playoffs for every scheme if enough people participated>> no more need for seperate leagues like trl or tel.
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and hysteria stay in the classic league, i guess, lol
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Hysteria is the most played scheme, that's it
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Hysteria is the most played scheme, that's it
In 90% by you :P
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Gg TEL, you will be missed
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i believe elite can to be avaliable in TRL as well :)
RIP TEL :(
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Being the most played scheme doesn't make it automatically be a scheme in an all around league with schemes that require much more skill. Same for Shopper.
TUS definitely needs playoffs in all schemes at the end of the season. That's for sure.
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TEL last 6 seasons, game played:
1273
971
821
700
555
~400
It seems that people are simply bored after 9 seasons.
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aaaaaaaa!!!! noooooooo, pls! Well if tel is going to be removed surely it must be immediately replaced with TTTRRL - tus time trial rope race league please! (come up with a better name tho)
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tel gonna die the way tnl did? uh oh
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was my plans >:( 8) - joke have other pro plans :D
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already posted mine: :)
TEL has been going on for too long. Elite could be added as just another TRL-scheme.
In that case we'd go down 1 league (only Classic, Free & TRL left), that's not a bad thing IMO.
A 4th league could be used though for experimental things:
1/3 of the seasons as a back-up TRL (for Elite mostly)
1/3 of the seasons as an alternative all-round league (with only all rope schemes, or only all default schemes for example [edit: or that each player remove 3 schemes-thing])
1/3 of the seasons as a TRL for the most popular FreeLeague scheme
Something like that
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doubletime will not be happy :P
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Why can't we find ways of making TEL a bit more interesting?
I am actually a bit saddened at this news of disabling TEL, I don't play but I check the TEL games played and the standings every morning after work, I thought we had already agreed that activity in TEL isn't a problem neither should it be one, I thought everyone agreed that TEL should have it's own League regardless? 400 games a Season is still good amongst the hardcore followers and I think that is special enough for it to remain like that, imo it's still active until it drops below 100 games...
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400 games a Season is still good amongst the hardcore followers and I think that is special enough for it to remain like that, imo it's still active until it drops below 100 games...
Imagine 100 games per season, and imagine approximately 20-30 players playing those 100 games. Then you can calculate what it would take to reach po's. Even 400 games is very, very few...
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We don't REALLY need playoffs though for TEL, but at the moment we can still have 4 players doing playoffs with 30-40 games played each, I think it's still worthy to watch, especially because those players are at the top of their game.
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maybe TAL ?
TUS AERIAL LEAGUE ?
:)
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MI, this would not be a good way in my opinion.
Guess without a fixed default ladder many people dont see any reason to keep playing worms. And that would be sad.
I dont think it will fall down 400 a season, its the down peak.
Just let it like it is. It's still a nice ladder, imo.
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Porra! MI :<
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A reason for inactivity could be the amount of games u have to play to even get the chance to reach the playoffs. Not sure.
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A reason for inactivity could be the amount of games u have to play to even get the chance to reach the playoffs. Not sure.
agreed, me per exemple, i would play some TEL weekends if there were a chance to get in the playoffs playing few games.
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That's what I'm talking about. There are some flaws in the system, not in the leagues itself. The best you can have is to check at any scheme you want the top 10 players. And this is here not supported. Not resetting those leagues, but giving the players the opportunity to reset their account. I liked FB back in the days the most with the standings system and stuff. Everything what later came out wasn't the same. And with TUS I never really started before I had my break of Worms. Couldn't get into it for some reason. Wasn't enjoying.
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here was my idea from that 'New plan for leagues' thread (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/new-plan-for-leagues/msg114743/#msg114743)
TEL is suffering from too many consecutive seasons, so I have an idea that will likely help TEL and other TRL schemes.
Multiple TRL's. Split up the schemes by popularity, so you have different tiers. One tier could be Elite/Hysteria, so those two schemes would alternate back and forth in their own tier. All the other schemes could be their own tier, or you could split up even more by popularity (like another TRL tier could be TTRR/Team17 just looking at the Season Info page activity). What this does is keep schemes more fresh by not repeating 2 times in a row or more, and it let's schemes not have to take forever to show up in TRL again since they'll be in their own tier.
so TEL can still shut down in a few days. but when the current TRL:Hysteria season ends in 5 weeks, we could start this idea starting with Elite in the rotation, then alternate it with Hysteria the following season, and then back and forth continuously. I think this is a nice compromise 8)
also we lowered the TEL/TRL minimum games from 50 down to 30. would you still recommend even lower nino? 20?
I think the win% requirement should be removed too, because each win is not the same, so +50% win percentage shouldn't really be necessary
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:( :( :( :(
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also we lowered the TEL/TRL minimum games from 50 down to 30. would you still recommend even lower nino? 20?
ye 20, or even 25.
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here was my idea from that 'New plan for leagues' thread (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/new-plan-for-leagues/msg114743/#msg114743)
TEL is suffering from too many consecutive seasons, so I have an idea that will likely help TEL and other TRL schemes.
Multiple TRL's. Split up the schemes by popularity, so you have different tiers. One tier could be Elite/Hysteria, so those two schemes would alternate back and forth in their own tier. All the other schemes could be their own tier, or you could split up even more by popularity (like another TRL tier could be TTRR/Team17 just looking at the Season Info page activity). What this does is keep schemes more fresh by not repeating 2 times in a row or more, and it let's schemes not have to take forever to show up in TRL again since they'll be in their own tier.
so TEL can still shut down in a few days. but when the current TRL:Hysteria season ends in 5 weeks, we could start this idea starting with Elite in the rotation, then alternate it with Hysteria the following season, and then back and forth continuously. I think this is a nice compromise 8)
also we lowered the TEL/TRL minimum games from 50 down to 30. would you still recommend even lower nino? 20?
I think the win% requirement should be removed too, because each win is not the same, so +50% win percentage shouldn't really be necessary
100% agree. :)
And imo 30 is okay too. I played since a few days trl and already have 30+. It goes fast.
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Damn I was looking forward to trying TEL :(
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this topic = tel activity stimulator
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i tink people restart they computers becose they dont want to lose points in TEL
or they plug-out net cable and it apears a drop. if there is way to trace this
it will be cool :) but you can't understand if it is realy a drop or restart :-\ :-\
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i tink people restart they computers becose they dont want to lose points in TEL
or they plug-out net cable and it apears a drop. if there is way to trace this
it will be cool :) but you can't understand if it is realy a drop or restart :-\ :-\
or ctrl+alt+delete (task meniger) WA (running) end process (are you shure) /yes/
:D :D :D :D
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Disabling TEL is the best idea ive ever heard for getting rid of Doubletime, Im all for it :D.
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Perhaps it is time to bring back an Elite League outside of the barriers of The Ultimate Site? ::) Maybe with the divisions-ideas many people had around here.
By the way, you remove a league like TEL, but you keep Free League? Seriously? 600 games in 180 days, that's not even close to the activity TEL has. What is that anyway, a season that is 180 days long? :o Not to mention what a crap Free League is, like Hysteria in the Classic League...
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I agree, I really dont see the point in removing tel unless it is going to be immediately replaced with something else. Unless its "costing" TUS, or creating unnecessary work for MI then I dont think it needs to go. As Ray said it's still more active than the free league (over time), so just keep it, or replace it with another single scheme league IMMEDIATELY!
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Perhaps it is time to bring back an Elite League outside of the barriers of The Ultimate Site? ::) Maybe with the divisions-ideas many people had around here.
By the way, you remove a league like TEL, but you keep Free League? Seriously? 600 games in 180 days, that's not even close to the activity TEL has. What is that anyway, a season that is 180 days long? :o Not to mention what a crap Free League is, like Hysteria in the Classic League...
I think free league is played by a group of few players...
Its just that the season is too long, playoffs are each 6 MONTHS and we have to wait so long :/ atleast tomorrow this season ends :D
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I agree, I really dont see the point in removing tel unless it is going to be immediately replaced with something else. Unless its "costing" TUS, or creating unnecessary work for MI then I dont think it needs to go. As Ray said it's still more active than the free league (over time), so just keep it, or replace it with another single scheme league IMMEDIATELY!
TEL ~ elite, mole, wfw, golf. and change schemes every seasone oR NOT :-X
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6 months long season is absolute nonsense.
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MI u should've asked peoples before take a decision like this!
But maybe an outside elite league site would be more fun.
some bad things happens to improve in the future.
since theres no god, noones knows xD.
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well maybe since this reaction is bigger than expected, TEL could return after a season of being disabled.
one thing I think is needed though is a change to how many people qualify for playoffs, so that some people aren't discouraged for never being able to play enough games and for other people not having their effort wasted if not enough people qualify ( currently 8 )
20 games minimum should be low enough, even for nino ;) and lower WIN% down to 40%+, some players are being left out that I think should be included with this change
if 8+ players have 20+ games --> TOP 8 playoff
if 4-7 people have 20+ games --> TOP 4 playoff
if 2-3 people have 20+ games --> TOP 2 playoff
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I've always thought 4 PO spots for TEL and TRL would be best.. dunno how that would fit into current activities etc..
a formula that calculated the spots and was determined by league activity would own!
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This is a sad thing to hear, I know im not one to play alot of them but i do as often as possible, and the way worms is going i think it would be nice to just keep it as an option for people who would rather play a default scheme and have the option to look for TEL rather than a TUS and have to sit through an apponents choice of shopper or hysteria(most common hoices these days, imo), haveing 400 games is not bad with the current state of worms, that mean at least people are still putting forth an effort. even with school and real life playing a factor.
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Shopper and Hysteria need their own league or something. If that decreases the activity of the Classic League then that's how it is. Don't do ANYTHING to keep something active and alive. If the "nub" can't keep up with other players in those other classic league schemes then that's also just how it is. I don't think you gonna see some random boxer vs Klitschko or someone else. Every league in no matter what sport is sorted by skill. Just in Worms everything is mixed up. There's the pros picking good schemes and there's the nubs playing Hyst and Shop. And that in the same league. Makes no sense
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there's the nubs playing Hyst and Shop.
How about you learn to properly play these schemes before you comment on them? The problem you have with these schemes is that they bore you and you don't want to learn about them. Fair enough, but if that's reason for leagues to adapt, we will not have any schemes left to play.
Don't do ANYTHING to keep something active and alive.
??? What's the point of having something if nobody is using it? If you can't think of an answer to that, why shouldn't you try to keep it active/alive?
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I have played quite some Hyst already and just don't like it. Of course theres skill needed but I hate the strategys in that scheme. It's just not my thing. And Shopper I can play properly. I know exactly how to play that scheme. I find it too easy. You have too much time picking up your crate and attack your opponent. That's what I see on those made maps. I prefer that scheme on a difficult random map anyway, but still an easy scheme. WxW requires much more skill. It's just the same scheme, except that you have to rope pretty well on harder maps. A normal roper will stand no chance vs a good roper on a harder map. In shoppa anyone can beat anyone, and that shouldn't be the point in a league scheme. Better player should win always.
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R.I.P. TEL! We will never forgot you.xD
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there's the nubs playing Hyst and Shop.
How about you learn to properly play these schemes before you comment on them? The problem you have with these schemes is that they bore you and you don't want to learn about them. Fair enough, but if that's reason for leagues to adapt, we will not have any schemes left to play.
Don't do ANYTHING to keep something active and alive.
??? What's the point of having something if nobody is using it? If you can't think of an answer to that, why shouldn't you try to keep it active/alive?
Very true :)
Very nice attached replay, DarkOne, deserved to be watched in full length (and speed 5 ^^)
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there's the nubs playing Hyst and Shop.
How about you learn to properly play these schemes before you comment on them? The problem you have with these schemes is that they bore you and you don't want to learn about them. Fair enough, but if that's reason for leagues to adapt, we will not have any schemes left to play.
Don't do ANYTHING to keep something active and alive.
??? What's the point of having something if nobody is using it? If you can't think of an answer to that, why shouldn't you try to keep it active/alive?
But my hero, talking by myself, i did stop play TEL games cos i dont have time to play much games and the way the league is made... even phanton would reach playoffs in TEL all he would have to do is play, and that, he does lol.
So making a change in the system maybe would encourage some peoples , like me , to play some games in the weekends and have chances to reach the playoffs.
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Lets just put nino in every playoffs atomatically!! XD
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Royal decree? :)
Thanks, DENnis, had to pull out all the stops to get that game in the bag ;D
I can see how that activity can be a deterrant for people to get involved, something to think about!
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I think MI told me he's likely doing activity based playoffs, but he didn't say when. Here's my idea again in case it's forgotten ;p
one thing I think is needed though is a change to how many people qualify for playoffs, so that some people aren't discouraged for never being able to play enough games and for other people not having their effort wasted if not enough people qualify ( currently 8 )
20 games minimum should be low enough, even for nino ;) and lower WIN% down to 40%+, some players are being left out that I think should be included with this change
if 8+ players have 20+ games --> TOP 8 playoff
if 4-7 people have 20+ games --> TOP 4 playoff
if 2-3 people have 20+ games --> TOP 2 playoff
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put gigaliga-scheme instead, makes it much more interesting
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there's the nubs playing Hyst and Shop.
How about you learn to properly play these schemes before you comment on them? The problem you have with these schemes is that they bore you and you don't want to learn about them. Fair enough, but if that's reason for leagues to adapt, we will not have any schemes left to play.
Don't do ANYTHING to keep something active and alive.
??? What's the point of having something if nobody is using it? If you can't think of an answer to that, why shouldn't you try to keep it active/alive?
But my hero, talking by myself, i did stop play TEL games cos i dont have time to play much games and the way the league is made... even phanton would reach playoffs in TEL all he would have to do is play, and that, he does lol.
So making a change in the system maybe would encourage some peoples , like me , to play some games in the weekends and have chances to reach the playoffs.
Oh yes.
Its just not fair for some groups of players. Workers dont have time and energy to do much more games just to defeat a worse player in the ranks. I'm so for e reset after every season and I guess, all other people like me are thinking the same. Best in TEL was the scheme, but not the system. 24/7 people having an huge advantage by spamming much more games. We want the best in the playoffs and no doubletime's (this just an example how spamming could be go). He was many weeks number #1 in TEL Ranks and thats just lol.
ea should make its own elite league. If someone is interested to code a page and some stuff just pm me. I also would pay money for that work. :)
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I'll make it!
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spw said what im thinking pretty much exactly... ive been working and dont have alot of time to play a bunch of games, but when i was on i was always looking for tel before anything because i love elite and dont need to be warm for it
if ea does that id like to play in it for sure
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Its just not fair for some groups of players. Workers dont have time and energy to do much more games just to defeat a worse player in the ranks. I'm so for e reset after every season and I guess, all other people like me are thinking the same. Best in TEL was the scheme, but not the system. 24/7 people having an huge advantage by spamming much more games. We want the best in the playoffs and no doubletime's (this just an example how spamming could be go). He was many weeks number #1 in TEL Ranks and thats just lol.
ea should make its own elite league. If someone is interested to code a page and some stuff just pm me. I also would pay money for that work. :)
That's a silly excuse IMO. Sure activity is rewarded as it is, but it's not an obligation. Crash was 5th in the last season with a record of 6-2 ;D
The only thing you needed to do was play enough games to make the playoffs requirements. If that's too many games then you're really too inactive for any league ::)
I like how players who play a lot have a small advantage. It gives newer, enthusiastic players a chance to make the playoffs.
And I dare say, even 'workers' are capable of meeting the required games and competing with guys like Phanton. But yeah, you'll have to play more than 8 games a season :-[
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nice post HHC, i guess that shows that most of your are just making excuses on why TEL is dead...
im not sure if any of you have dealt with the loss of a loved one, buts its difficult, denial sets in, then you make excuses, then you blame yourself, then you wonder what could you have done, could you have done more, and the what ifs are never ending....
eventually, the grief will end, and you will remember the good times you had together, and the tears you once cried thinking of that person, will turn into smiles each time they cross your mind. ( in this case TEL )
R.I.P. Danny, Luke, Justin, Lisa, and least importantly TEL.
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o cmon avi, don't make me cry now :-[
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awww, dont cry HHC, its going to be ok.... TEL would not want you to cry for him man!! TEL would want you to celebrate his life, not morn his death!!! lets meet in AG and have an Elite game in his honor?!!
be strong HHC, be strong.
edit: no seriously, wanna Elite? come to AG.
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I'll probably change TEL to another TRL for default schemes. So one TRL rotates on ropes and one on defaults.
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i think thats a good idea... will be less waiting for those who want to see a specific scheme on TRL...
and when elite does hit TRL, people will be a bit more enthusiastic to play it...
because lets face it, the numbers in TEL dropped every single season, more and more.. and its not because anyone has a job :X
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well numbers in trl also dropped when its not hysteria (even less games as in last tel season) this idea sounds good.
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Its a good idea, yea. But still the "little problem" with the system. There should be a reset after every season, same chance to everyone.
And HHC, you dont know me and my life so you cant imagine whats possible for me and not. Thanks anyway for your lovely words :-*
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I'm not sure, but I have to work the whole day too. Then I'm pretty much into mastering my rap skills, participating in a tourney that just starts soon. That rap stuff eats a lot of time, trust me. Then I have a normal chilling "do nothing" real life. Meeting mates, and so on.. Yet I manage to play pretty much games actually. I just don't sleep much I guess, so I have more time than others, hehe
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Its a good idea, yea. But still the "little problem" with the system. There should be a reset after every season, same chance to everyone.
Everyone has the same chance now don't they?
That's the whole idea behind the system.. your own past rating doesn't effect how many points you score in the current season.
With a full reset people would be scoring a load of points just beating noobs.. making the system even more favourable to superactive players and noob-bashers. :-X
And HHC, you dont know me and my life so you cant imagine whats possible for me and not.
I can imagine your activity is somewhere inbetween 0 games and 999 games each season. If you play more than is needed for playoffs atm there's no prob. If you play less, a full reset or making a league elsewhere isn't really going to help you much is it?
You'll have to think of a really weird system to make playoffs with just 10 games (or even less) played.
Or am I overlooking something?
Thanks anyway for your lovely words :-*
I suppose you're being sarcastic?
I didn't intend to offend you in any way ???
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SPW, your full or shit...
i have been playing this game longer then (most) anyone... i have been through it all, 50+ hour work weeks, with a girlfriend and friends to attend to, social lifes, clubbing, partying, sportings, etc.
i live an active life, and still manage to play worms (when i dont disappear) because i want to... i love worms...
and im sure you do too.. but right now your on a break.
i have been there, all oldschoolers have...
but dont make excuses for your break.... just come back when you can, and play competetive, see you then dude...
sorrry im drunk as shit, so i may not have made sense, i may shake my head to whateveri just said in the morning... but... it is what it is... gl hf ;D
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ok avi, ill escuse you cos u drunk, but ye it didnot make sense, go sleep puto ! XD
SPW has a point and HHC has half point xD
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edit: :D
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Avi, I did that in the past too, I wasnt workless when I started playing worms online. But the different is, I'm getting older and I feel it. So I need for example more sleep and "recharging moments", just doing nothing while laying on the coach watching TV or smth. That changed. I dont have the power and the time like many years ago. But I'm still addicted to this game and watching every day some replays, most elite, hyst, t17, wxw and shopper. Minimum games are already dropped and system is better than some season ago, I have to admit.
But still, for example the current trl season. I played against Blinky lacoste* and he really didnt play bad. When I analyse it, I just get bad odds playing him so (by comparing it with poker) this is -EV. I cant get more points then I could lost against him, longterm. Well, doesnt matter now. Its sad TEL is off, I'm still crying. :(
*edit: better example.
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Due to constant activity drop in TEL, we've decided to disable it after the current season. Ideas about improving TEL or what to do with such cases are welcome.
you guys make it sound like a death sentence. MI left it open for ideas, and some have been shared. he seems to be currently considering a default TRL with elite included. you can speak up if you like other options.
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TuS would be perfect with:
TUS-Default League [TDL] - (Elite, T17, BnG, Hysteria) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 4 / 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Roper League [TRL] - (TTRR, Roper, Shopper, WxW) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 4 / 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Champions League [TUS] - (Elite, TTRR, T17, Roper, BnG, Shopper, Hysteria, WxW) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Free League [TFL] - (with all schemes / modds in the world exept the "Top 8") - each one pick - Season: 3 or 4 month - Playoffs Top 4 or 8 - Limit 30 / max. 10 games same opponent / Win-%: 40
--> TUS-Rotated League: Cancelled.
System for all: Current one.
Thas my little shit for it. :)
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TuS would be perfect with:
TUS-Default League [TDL] - (Elite, T17, BnG, Hysteria) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 4 / 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Roper League [TRL] - (TTRR, Roper, Shopper, WxW) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 4 / 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Champions League [TUS] - (Elite, TTRR, T17, Roper, BnG, Shopper, Hysteria, WxW) - each one pick - Season: 1 month - Playofs Top 8 - Limit 30 / max. 4 games same opponent / Win-%: 50.
TUS-Free League [TFL] - (with all schemes / modds in the world exept the "Top 8") - each one pick - Season: 3 or 4 month - Playoffs Top 4 or 8 - Limit 30 / max. 10 games same opponent / Win-%: 40
--> TUS-Rotated League: Cancelled.
System for all: Current one.
Thas my little shit for it. :)
>>>Lol. Good idea. Signed
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good idea indeed SPW.
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blablablablablabla (a idea that i agree with)
but, shouldnt be TFL seasons 2 months long? I think we should give it a try... we have to wait 4 months to play PO so people play free league the first 2 months and the other 2 months... :s
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thats your perfect league SPW....
but i doubt it appeals to majority.
i dont think hyst should be (in any league) mixed in with default schemes...
and shoppa should not be in with roper... etc.
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Yea true Avi, that would be good for me but also for others cause there is everything you wish.
The problem is, I dont see any reason to keep playing worms exept "my schemes". I dont like to rope but I'm still a good wormer, just exept roping. But where can I play league games in the future? I dont like classic, opponent picking rope schemes, obv. Now I can play trl because of hysteria, but whats after? So a default league would help here and I know there are many others thinking like me.
At the moment CF is inactive too so I dont have a chance to get some clanner picks playing - 2v2 anyway not the same. I'm bored but I want to play worms.
@Hyst / Shopper. But better like that than the other way. Dont see any other solution. Imo Hyst and Shopper are well placed in the "Champions-League". Word "Classic" showed off anyway. And the reason is simple. Many players just like shopper and hysteria, so the samplesize of players making it to an important scheme.
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Dunno SPW. I feel your pain, but I don't believe in a rope-only league tbh. A default league could still work cause there's more schemes/more diversity. I believe a TTRR/WxW/Roper league is in essence just another TRL. Activity will dwindle after the first season IMO.
I'm personally more in favour of a division between the REAL classic schemes & newer/lighter schemes. A league with Rope, BnG, Elite & TTRR (or something like that) for the e-penis players; and a league with Hyst, shopper, T17 and the popular freeleague schemes as 2nd league. I think that would keep more players interested in them, cause both of them have rope and non-rope schemes.
And a 3rd league to preserve TRL.
That's my preferred version 8)
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That wouldnt solve "my" problem.
There are defaulters and there are ropers, its now and 6 years ago etc. And there are a group of good allrounders but you can count them with two hands. Many good ropers having big leaks in defaults and other way. Some few are very top but where is the challenge? Picking and winning ttrr against me? Weird thought.
A lot of guys just play the other player pick just cause the have to, mostly without fun. So some ttrr are crap like hell and some bng just like a primitive war of egoism. Just because one guy love it and the other one hate it. There are a lot such matchups in classic league, so where is the sense in it? And on the other side. Its not nice too playing Elite and opponent just doing bad on purpose. Just for the points? Boring, longterm.
We would have better competiton by seperate it. And Allrounders may still play the "TUS-League" with all Top-Schemes included. At least we could give it a try. I know its like a revolution, but I think something must happen now - for the following years and a still active worms community! :)
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Add Elite to TRL then.
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soo cool spw
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That wouldnt solve "my" problem.
There are defaulters and there are ropers, its now and 6 years ago etc. And there are a group of good allrounders but you can count them with two hands. Many good ropers having big leaks in defaults and other way. Some few are very top but where is the challenge? Picking and winning ttrr against me? Weird thought.
A lot of guys just play the other player pick just cause the have to, mostly without fun. So some ttrr are crap like hell and some bng just like a primitive war of egoism. Just because one guy love it and the other one hate it. There are a lot such matchups in classic league, so where is the sense in it? And on the other side. Its not nice too playing Elite and opponent just doing bad on purpose. Just for the points? Boring, longterm.
We would have better competiton by seperate it. And Allrounders may still play the "TUS-League" with all Top-Schemes included. At least we could give it a try. I know its like a revolution, but I think something must happen now - for the following years and a still active worms community! :)
i Want This Revolution !!!!!!!
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Bring back TEL over the summer. (activity boost)
Thanks.
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I like spw opinion, would be nice!
if there was a poll I'd say yes!!!!
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ME WANTS TEL BACK!
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Due to constant activity drop in TEL, we've decided to disable it after the current season. Ideas about improving TEL or what to do with such cases are welcome.
Here I am writing a post 'cause i didnt write any lately. Do not get me wrong! I'm playing quite few years online. Explain to me short TEL. pm or there at forum. I guess i'd have to admit im a bit of a newbie of this TUS stuff, but DEFINITELY not in gameplay of WA.
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Hello Wojtes,
Welcome to TUS :)
You can read about the leagues concept here (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/#21).
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I guess i've read enough about that now, thanks to you
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When will TEL be enabled again?
I'm really missing an Elite league every day now.
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absence makes the heart grow fonder it seems :-*
also hoping for a more active TEL return, with the updated lower minimum game limit, like 20.
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Due to constant activity drop in TEL, we've decided to disable it after the current season. Ideas about improving TEL or what to do with such cases are welcome.
The Elite League..... NOOOO!!! I have yet to compete in that NO no no no no...
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Noooooes! You can't do that! :S
Is it disabled at the moment?
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is this guy serious?
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i find the games you have to play to qualify for the PO's is too much. 80 in classic and 30 in tel.. it's like impossible to find that much games. if i play leagues on this site i kinda always reach the top spots, but don't get qualified due to lack of games. and if i take a look at the games of the other players, PO's gonna looks like a 3 player tournament