The Ultimate Site of Worms Armageddon
One-Boards => Challenges Comments => Topic started by: Big Billy on July 03, 2023, 06:11 PM
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New bigrr chally!
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Travis Bickle! Nice design
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Wow! Thanks for the map choice! :D
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Nice map, I had 1 attempt, got 212, not posting it because I find it personally embarassing... I'm fast but fall so much there's zero consistency going full speed lol.
I expect RopeGPT alias to get 180-200 pretty easily.
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Hmm, sub 190 was a mistake after having another go...
I think my first 120 seconds were solid enough, especially the first 60 seconds and could possibly shed another 2-5 seconds if I took more risks.
Immediately at 120 though I made a pretty bad mistake which slowed me down and wasted more seconds... Then I made a few more errors because after the first mistake I tilted a bit lol.
Sub 200 is definitely possible with a very solid run, if I could do the entire thing as well as the first 60 seconds, sure could shed up to 10 seconds I think. Not sure I have it in me to practise enough though to keep that speed that consistent.
Edit - Oh yeah, that mistake at 110 as well, at first I thought my fling was enough to get over the pole, lost a second or 2 there as well...
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nice roping Komi ;o
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I have 205 seconds replay but wanna try sub 200. Like 197 is my goal
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I have 205 seconds replay but wanna try sub 200. Like 197 is my goal
I'm thinking 190-195 would be possible if I didn't have any fails at all and could keep full speed, there's quite a few sections I'm getting into position at the wrong angle which means I have to do the slower move.
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I have 205 seconds replay but wanna try sub 200. Like 197 is my goal
I have a 205/206 as well but it has 2 parachutes/falls in it, don’t really want to post, but probably will when I get home. Might give me more motivation to grind it.
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I actually can't even be bothered, had 1 attempt to get 212, then 3 more to get 208... I really just wanted to do enough so I could judge what's possible for top tier players.
Don't know what it is, I get so hyped up to play then get so bored immediately, not to mention frustrated the second I fall...
I used to be so patient and determined lol.
It's not just WA either, this is gaming in general for me... I'm hoping Starfield can fix that.
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First one who cracks the 200 downsides.
Good one Shtaket!
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Watching the replay, he isn't even roping the fastest but he's doing mostly all the right moves and has the consistency. The point he gets to at 59s I've reached at 57 seconds a couple times before I start collapsing and making all manners of mistakes. I get too frustrated due to being so inconsistent. :D
I believe sub 190 is possible now, but it's not probably not going to be me, I just don't have it in me to practise enough before rage quitting lol.
Good job Shtaket!
I'll give £10 to the first person to get 185 or below, this is via direct PAYPAL transaction or steam gift only. This excludes any and all 3rd party services.
"RopeGPTv1" and all other aliases are excluded from this offer, known players only.
194.44 - But it's slow... I made so many mistakes and got to the 53-55 second mark at 57 seconds so a fair bit behind then a lot of other mistakes.
I got 181.94 using Tool Assist, with a few markers at some easy parts I made mistakes... Sub 180 is definitely humanly possible with a flawless run keeping the speed up.
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Also, Kaleu, I love you but hate you... :D :-* :'(
This map is beautiful to rope on, there are so many nice moves to do here. BUT!
It makes me so angry the poles! Not Polish people...
THIS:
(https://i.imgur.com/YsZkt3v.png)
I absolutely HATE this specific design for Big RR because it has a very serious flaw which introduces a pretty annoying element of RNG.
There is a thing that happens with rope and the game engine... I can't remember it exactly but it's something to do with the frames per second and speed/angle the worm is travelling and rope is shooting to detect when a rope touches a wall... This is why sometimes you see the tip of your rope go through land, but it either doesn't connect, or it connects in a position that wasn't intended due to not being picked up quickly enough.
Instead of narrowing the tip of the pole, it should just be left fat, and this problem wouldn't happen.
For most people it isn't a problem, though when you are an extremely fast player and you are setting up for fast swooshes etc, it's virtually impossible to avoid and feels like 50/50 chance.
Does anyone even know what I'm talking about lol?
Around 60% to 70% of my attempts end in failure because the rope connect too far down on the pole instead of at the tip because of this flaw I mentioned above. It was M3ntal who told me about it in the first place when we were playing Tower Race in 2020.
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194.20 but i playing again 190 possible for me
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Sub 190 achieved!
I reckon I can do between 180 and 185 with a flawless run now, perhaps even sub 180, though that is probably more effort than it's worth lol.
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Interesting, RopeGPTv1 just got 182.1s, though i've got to where they got at 55.5s at 53s a few times. They saved a few seconds doing 3 moves that I wasn't putting into practise yet, so I'll be able to improve my time even further by doing this. I reckon around 175-178 is possible with a flawless run now.
Sub 180 here we go!
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Here is a 175.08 attached that I got using Tool Assist by retrying a few sections where I messed up.
The run I just submitted, 186.88, was a record pace run ahead of RopeGPTv1 that I screwed up in the most stupid way at 110 seconds... Then after finishing that I used TA to take control where I messed up at 110 and I got 177.
Was definitely my best run yet though and a new PB so I'm happy with that, I know my potential can theoretically reach 172/173 seconds because even that TA run I've submitted has a few mistakes.
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Sorry I made a mistake with RopeGPTv1 score, I didn't realize you could touch the ground before the finish, sorry! I'll get MI to update that.
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It is fixed.
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Mission: Beat Masta! Masta! of Puppets. Pull his strings (his rope). Control him.
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I'm not sure if my consistency will improve within the 10 days left, but I'm going to try my best!
My current record at 186s was roping normal though(left hand on spacebar and right hand on arrows) I'm more consistent but slower at certain moves. I used TA to finish that turn where I made the mistake and got 177s, however that's before I realized you can finish your worm on the ground before finish! So I could have got 176 if I knew that.
Now I'm roping invert(using WASD with left hand and right hand on spacebar) as I'm much faster this way, though even more inconsistent! I can get between 170 and 175 if I can do every move without fail and make zero mistakes, I'm thinking even sub 170!
That's a very fast time by RopeGPTv1 but we can definitely go faster! If you watch his replay and pause it at exactly 10 seconds in, I can get to that point at about 8.80 seconds when I nail the start flawlessly as I discovered a more optimized start last night while streaming.
My first "major split", which is the point where I know I'm on a 170 pace time is the point in his run where he connects the rope at 52.54 seconds, I've managed to get there once at 51.30 seconds however that was before I discovered the faster starting method which saved a second. So I'm sure a flawless run could make it to that connection at 49-50 seconds.
I'm waiting for Deadcode to see if he can make up a TA build where you can use WASD instead of arrows to test this theory.
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I'm not sure if my consistency will improve within the 10 days left, but I'm going to try my best!
My current record at 186s was roping normal though(left hand on spacebar and right hand on arrows) I'm more consistent but slower at certain moves. I used TA to finish that turn where I made the mistake and got 177s, however that's before I realized you can finish your worm on the ground before finish! So I could have got 176 if I knew that.
Now I'm roping invert(using WASD with left hand and right hand on spacebar) as I'm much faster this way, though even more inconsistent! I can get between 170 and 175 if I can do every move without fail and make zero mistakes, I'm thinking even sub 170!
That's a very fast time by RopeGPTv1 but we can definitely go faster! If you watch his replay and pause it at exactly 10 seconds in, I can get to that point at about 8.80 seconds when I nail the start flawlessly as I discovered a more optimized start last night while streaming.
My first "major split", which is the point where I know I'm on a 170 pace time is the point in his run where he connects the rope at 52.54 seconds, I've managed to get there once at 51.30 seconds however that was before I discovered the faster starting method which saved a second. So I'm sure a flawless run could make it to that connection at 49-50 seconds.
I'm waiting for Deadcode to see if he can make up a TA build where you can use WASD instead of arrows to test this theory.
Lol Komo, isn't this too much for a rope-based challenge? It seems you are getting obsessed with all this XD.
There are also these to deal with:
- https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-825/
- https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-827/
- https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-828/
- https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-830/
HF and GL.
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https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-836/
this, rather, it takes more skills to complete this without making a fall or fail and for a big rr map like this there is no route to learn like a robot ^^ you gotta rope with ur insticts and be fast like that. and also need to take 5 crates
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As much as I hate the stupid spikes that cause the rope collision glitch, I just love this map... It has such a nice flow to it and there are a bunch of really nice techniques to it.
Also, for me Big RR, is one of the most skill based schemes there is, I'm not interested in collecting crates, just pure speed demon stuff 🤣🤣
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RopeGPT = Masta amirite???
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It feels like it is Masta, but there has always been a part of me that doesn't think it is.
Although they have similarities to Masta, and are definitely very fast, they aren't as fast as Masta or myself with specific moves and sections. Though definitely as consistent as Masta, if not more so.
There are about 5-10 players who I think are fast/experienced enough to be this person. It would also be a welcome surprise if it's someone we don't even know or suspect lol.
I wish you could reveal who you are though, it sucks that you hide behind an alias and even more so that I cannot congratulate you for who you really are and maybe even do challenge attempts together like what thewalrus/stjimmy and I have been doing together.
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RopeGPT = Masta amirite???
wrong
kory right
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I'm actually hoping that Masta, knowing that he's a very good programmer, got involved with AI and somehow created an AI bot that can actually rope...
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That's a very interesting turn by RopeGPTv1 there!
174.16, with a lot of mistakes! 170 is definitely possible!
For me personally, I struggle with the first 20 seconds.. Once I get consistent with that I'm sure I'll start producing sub 180s pretty easy.
173.7 now! RopeGPTv1 keeps getting faster and faster lol, roping a lot different from their 1st attempts.
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Well, is it Masta or Sir-J, or RopeGPT,
He bombs a new time in with 171.78s
Geez, Wonder if he/she/it can go under 170.
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At first, they didn't seem very fast, though it's weird because every replay they keep getting faster and faster with their reflexes...
Their scrolling gets faster, their double taps get faster, their bounces get faster...
Their first few attempts had me thinking they were easy to beat, though now they are able to do moves at the same speed I can except they have the consistency I haven't had for over 10 years lol.
Now it's getting annoying not knowing who it is. They rope even faster than Masta now.
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maybe its a yet-unknown korean esporter of Worms (:
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So here is proof that sub 170 is possible without any mistakes, attached is a tool assisted run using some save states to get a full run with no mistakes which I did live on stream today,
This shows my potential to hit 165s, as there were a few sections where I intentionally took a little safer to make it more realistic and give some room for improvement. It didn't even take that long to be honest.
168.76s
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@Big Billy:
My recent attempt here I am not sure if it will count, as I touched the corner of the end... I still see it as touching the same line that's connected to finish but not sure what you think.
Pretty happy with that run anyway even if I did still lose about 4-5 seconds to stupid mistakes...
I count it as my new PB anyway.
I decided to do the end of the save state run I did with TA again and improve it to do it the fast method that RopeGPTv1 did, not sure how the hell they managed to do that in an actual run though that is insane timing for that one part.. I'm growing more and more suspicious of them every day lol.
166s though!
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My recent attempt here I am not sure if it will count, as I touched the corner of the end... I still see it as touching the same line that's connected to finish but not sure what you think.
Nice one! That one counts,
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Beach Boys strikes again :D 8)
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Could probably beat 01i if I practiced long enough but that'll do. Fun challenge!
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Surely M-real is Masta? Looks like his style of roping, slower but actually faster. :D
We know that RopeGPTv1 is Sir-J now as well.
Edit - I am going to start making Challenges and one of the conditions is only known players are allowed to compete, no aliases. If nobody of importance recognizes you, then you're out.
Getting fed up with these aliases for real... What do you accomplish by hiding who you are unless you are cheating?
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Surely M-real is Masta? Looks like his style of roping, slower but actually faster. :D
We know that RopeGPTv1 is Sir-J now as well.
Edit - I am going to start making Challenges and one of the conditions is only known players are allowed to compete, no aliases. If nobody of importance recognizes you, then you're out.
Getting fed up with these aliases for real... What do you accomplish by hiding who you are unless you are cheating?
lol maybe they forgot passwords from previous accounts
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Something tells me it isn't Masta... This person has submitted 2 records, the first being 185s, then a ridiculous 15 second improvement to 170... Masta got a 179 live on stream like a week ago, so why would he submit a 185 when he already has a 179 before submitting the 170.28...
As far as I'm concerned they are cheaters until they can prove otherwise. I don't trust people who cannot show their real identity and never will.
Edit - At least Masta and I show we're legit by streaming live.
Edit #2 - Oh yeah, the 185 was for another map, so nvm that lol.
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Getting fed up with these aliases for real... What do you accomplish by hiding who you are unless you are cheating?
Got a point there.
It is getting frustrating with the second alias joining getting highscores.
It also just could be RopeGPT with another alias.
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You know what bothers me the most though...
I absolutely LOVE this game... We're a very small community... It's a shame that potentially some of the best players have to be so deceitful and hide their identities instead of being a part of the community.
I'd love to have more friends who are at this level of skill because it's very rare these days to meet other S Tier Ropers. I definitely have the speed and always have since the early days of WA, though I struggle these days to have the same level of consistency though I feel like the past week that I've been really enjoying this Challenge and I'm closing the gap and improving again to reach my peak again.
It's also healthy for inspiration and fair competition to know who you are playing against.
There is something to be said for truth and integrity among top players, it's much more admirable than getting some cheap laughs from some meaningless temporary aliasing.
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Oh, and so it ends!
congratulations to Mr-X and Mrs-Y.
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And thanks for streaming this one Komo - trying like millions of hours - and congratz on that bronce.
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M-real is Masta. He has locked himself out of his real account. No aliasing there.
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M-real is Masta. He has locked himself out of his real account. No aliasing there.
Ah thank you for pointing that out.
Then Congratz to Masta! Winning against the AI!
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We love Masta and his RandomMaps module