It's time for the next Big TTRR Cup!
I hope to see as much players as last time and maybe even more nice games.
I stacked up the games per match a bit, so it might be possible.
Group Stage is Bo5, K.O. Stage Bo7 and Finals are Bo9.
I made a new mappack for this one with some nice backgrounds: https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/mappack-635/
Come and join us!
confirmed :)
gl
p.s - this is one of my least favorite schemes, so unfortunately I will not be participating here. sry
Thanks lance.
Sign ups are open!
Quote from: Lancelot on August 11, 2024, 07:15 PMconfirmed :)
gl
p.s - this is one of my least favorite schemes, so unfortunately I will not be participating here. sry
Consider this for future Wheel of Fortune cups.
Quote from: Kaleu on August 13, 2024, 12:31 AMConsider this for future Wheel of Fortune cups.
What exactly should I consider? Each player may get a scheme that they are not familiar with, and both players may not know scheme very well.
That is the point of the Wheel of Fortune cup. The meaning of randomness and unpredictability.
But let's not talk about that here. There are other ways to discuss these things.
Peace.
Quote from: Lancelot on August 13, 2024, 11:13 AMQuote from: Kaleu on August 13, 2024, 12:31 AMConsider this for future Wheel of Fortune cups.
What exactly should I consider? Each player may get a scheme that they are not familiar with, and both players may not know scheme very well.
That is the point of the Wheel of Fortune cup. The meaning of randomness and unpredictability.
But let's not talk about that here. There are other ways to discuss these things.
Peace.
I think he meant to consider this scheme to be included in the WoF cup.
Would be nice for sure.
Quote from: Big Billy on August 13, 2024, 11:46 AMQuote from: Lancelot on August 13, 2024, 11:13 AMQuote from: Kaleu on August 13, 2024, 12:31 AMConsider this for future Wheel of Fortune cups.
What exactly should I consider? Each player may get a scheme that they are not familiar with, and both players may not know scheme very well.
That is the point of the Wheel of Fortune cup. The meaning of randomness and unpredictability.
But let's not talk about that here. There are other ways to discuss these things.
Peace.
I think he meant to consider this scheme to be included in the WoF cup.
Would be nice for sure.
ttrr scheme is in the Wheel of Fortune cup.
(https://i.ibb.co/bFt40S5/image.png)
I don't know why you didn't notice it there. I got the ttrr scheme in the playoffs last year, but I didn't play that match.
Quote from: Lancelot on August 13, 2024, 11:55 AMI don't know why you didn't notice it there. I got the ttrr scheme in the playoffs last year, but I didn't play that match.
Big TTRR is different than TTRR. By the way, the wiki lacks info about this scheme "TTBRR" or "BTTRR", and BigBilly is a player that is promoting this concept recently.
By the way, I think I prefer the name "Time Trial Big Rope Race" (TTBRR). It makes more sense to me, because it's BRR being played in time trial format, and not Time Trial Rope Race being upscaled.
Quote from: FoxHound on August 14, 2024, 03:08 AMBig TTRR is different than TTRR. By the way, the wiki lacks info about this scheme "TTBRR" or "BTTRR", and BigBilly is a player that is promoting this concept recently.
By the way, I think I prefer the name "Time Trial Big Rope Race" (TTBRR). It makes more sense to me, because it's BRR being played in time trial format, and not Time Trial Rope Race being upscaled.
its the same scheme as ttrr, though. kinda like shopper vs big shopper. and i thought big ttrr is exactly the same as ttrr only upscaled? you lost me here fox
Quote from: TheWalrus on August 14, 2024, 04:43 AMits the same scheme as ttrr, though. kinda like shopper vs big shopper. and i thought big ttrr is exactly the same as ttrr only upscaled? you lost me here fox
For me TTRR traditionally was played with water at the bottom, and players could plop if they fail. Also, Big RR has swoosh and Fly parts that TTRR doesn't have. I understand that BigBilly's maps are mostly made in Big Rope Race Generator (BRRG) for this scheme, so the swoosh and the fly don't apply so much for maps made by this program. I do imagine maps being handmade for this scheme like this, though: playing Time Trial with those classic obstacles and trick designs of the Big RR maps.
Another argument for my point of view: playing turn based rope race on a TTRR map and playing Time Trial on a big rope race map are very different ways of roping. So, in my opinion the map matters more than the timer-style. Of course that Time Trial and turn based RR have differences on the gameplay themselves, but I think the map affects more the way you rope.
That being said, Time Trial Big Rope Race still makes more sense to me than Big Time Trial Rope Race. Afterall the time playing the trial is not that big. The map is big, not the time.
Edit: next step is to create Time Trial Tower Rope Race. Because Tower Rope Race maps are different and the gameplay is different from BRR. It would be a mini tower map with those freaking crazy parts of Tower maps. That would be a cool scheme idea.
Would you say Time Trial Tower is an upscaled version of TTRR? Tower Time Trial Rope Race would sound as playing TTRR maps vertically, while Time Trial Tower Rope Race (or Time Trial Tower) sounds playing a Tower map in Time Trial format.
Edit 2: Don't forget that the scheme Time Trial Trick Race exists and it is not called Trick Time Trial Rope Race, because it's not like TTRR maps being played with colored lines sections for tricks, it's like short Trick Race maps that are played in Time Trial format.
Edit 3: now I'm thinking in Time Trial Surf Race (and not Surf Time Trial Rope Race), in Time Trial Checkpoint Rope Race (and not Checkpoint Time Trial Rope Race), in Time Trial Cannon Rope Race (and not Cannon Time Trial Rope Race) and all the other Rope Race variants being played in Time Trial format.
Time trial is a variation detail, the map and the rules of a scheme are way more important than if they are played as turn based or time trial. Of course that Time Trial is always better for fairness than turn based mode.
Edit 4: and now think in all other races in Time Trial format: Time Trial Boom Race (Boom Time Trial Race would be weird), Time Trial Bungee Race, Time Trial Driver (exists already, but played only as a challenge), Time Trial Boom for Weapons, Time Trial Drive for Weapons, Time Trial Drill Racer, Time Trial Super Sheep Race (Super Sheep Time Trial Race would be strange), Time Trial Wormopoly Party, etc.
Nah, the way this is presented is TTRR but big maps, like TTRR that takes 3 minutes or something to finish.
If it was the other way around it would be Time Trial Big Rope Race not Big Time Trial Rope Race.
So if the moderator of the cup means it's Big RR sized maps they should write it the correct way.
Big TTRR maps vs TT Big RR maps that are shorter to complete.
He does say 2nd edition so I've only just noticed this mistake now.
Quote from: FoxHound on August 14, 2024, 03:08 AMQuote from: Lancelot on August 13, 2024, 11:55 AMI don't know why you didn't notice it there. I got the ttrr scheme in the playoffs last year, but I didn't play that match.
Big TTRR is different than TTRR. By the way, the wiki lacks info about this scheme "TTBRR" or "BTTRR", and BigBilly is a player that is promoting this concept recently.
By the way, I think I prefer the name "Time Trial Big Rope Race" (TTBRR). It makes more sense to me, because it's BRR being played in time trial format, and not Time Trial Rope Race being upscaled.
Yeah, I didn't pay attention to that. I could still include this scheme in the Wheel of Fortune cup, but I'm not sure if it's worth it when the groups are already done.
Well yea.. Guess TT BigRR is the right one..
I'll change it for the #3 edition :P
So we got 14 player so far. Let's wait for 16 and see..
Okay, so maybe let's start with 18?
We'll see
Maybe we can start at 20 8)
If you need 1 more let me know I'll join even though I'll get whooped by mistakes lol.
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 17, 2024, 07:36 PMIf you need 1 more let me know I'll join even though I'll get whooped by mistakes lol.
I don't even worry about losing all the matches in the group because I like playing big rr
I get angry with myself as I play against myself not the opponent, I need to reach my own goals or it gets me real annoyed, and since I am so cold due to being in hospital not playing properly for many months it's annoying.
Though, it's still fun so screw it, I'll see how far my cold ass ass can get lol.
Lets go, who is my pair? >:(
Groups are paired!
Have fun ppl
What's the deadline for groups?
Masta and Micro... thanks BILLY!! :-*
Can we re - pair? xd
Quote from: Big Billy on August 18, 2024, 08:49 AMGroups are paired!
Have fun ppl
every group is hella hot >:(
Well I just had a practise for 30 minutes and out of about 200 worms I finished like 5 turns lmfao.
Quote from: KinslayeR on August 18, 2024, 09:04 AMMasta and Micro... thanks BILLY!! :-*
Can we re - pair? xd
xDD sry, was random not me xD
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 18, 2024, 08:59 AMWhat's the deadline for groups?
I didnt set up deadlines for now. If I see a lack of activity I'll set one.
Find me in AG or discord and we take it from there.
Replace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet. Can't be bothered putting effort in to receive no effort back. I've been spending hours practising and reached out TWICE with no reply yet, so yeah, screw that life is too short.
I'll focus on the Wheel of Fortune Cup since Slayer replied to me there and those players seem better at communicating.
Thanks!
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet. Can't be bothered putting effort in to receive no effort back. I've been spending hours practising and reached out TWICE with no reply yet, so yeah, screw that life is too short.
I'll focus on the Wheel of Fortune Cup since Slayer replied to me there and those players seem better at communicating.
Thanks!
I have difficulties finding free time to play.
I usually have free time in the evening to play, but now my electricity is cut off at that time, so I will hardly be able to play normally for the rest of the week.
Yeah, I also have to spend some time on warm-ups and training, but it does not help me lol. especially with serious opponents.
In some ways, I regretted joining the cup.
No offense plz, but at the moment I wrote what I feel about it and described my unforeseen circumstances
Oh yeah sorry my bad Lancelot said he just wasn't in the mood to play which is fair enough, that's the reason I want to play in HIS Cup, because at least he responded.
The way I see it, I join a Cup, I'm immediately showing interest in either playing, or telling people I need time to warm up a bit first and everyone knows I have lots of time to play.
But completely ignoring people trying to organize their games is a red flag to me and to put it bluntly I'm above that and my time is more valuable than that.
I think I won't bother hosting or joining any more Cups after I finish the Wheel of Fortune Cup.
It sucks when your favourite game of all time receives this kind of low effort by the best players in the world...
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 08:41 AMOh yeah sorry my bad Lancelot said he just wasn't in the mood to play which is fair enough, that's the reason I want to play in HIS Cup, because at least he responded.
The way I see it, I join a Cup, I'm immediately showing interest in either playing, or telling people I need time to warm up a bit first and everyone knows I have lots of time to play.
But completely ignoring people trying to organize their games is a red flag to me and to put it bluntly I'm above that and my time is more valuable than that.
I think I won't bother hosting or joining any more Cups after I finish the Wheel of Fortune Cup.
It sucks when your favourite game of all time receives this kind of low effort by the best players in the world...
As for this cup, I want to participate in it and try to lose with dignity to all participants (precisely lose, I have no chance of getting into the playoffs lol) I am not interested in playing when there is no practice, no training. If I play a match and lose, because I did not have a warm-up before the cup game - this will mean that there is simply no point in such games. The winner will not care. The losing player in an equal fight will continue to play. The losing player in an unequal fight would not play in this cup, because no one is interested in losing when the skill level is significantly different.
Regarding the rules, I learned one thing in the first match with runaway. When the worm loses a turn and flies to the finish line, the timer is frozen at the moment of losing the turn, thereby saving time for a better result. If I had known about this earlier, I would never have participated. It is unfair, in my opinion. Before this, I knew that time only counts when touching the finishing position, but not before. But this does not affect my desire to play.
Quote from: Lancelot on August 22, 2024, 09:00 AMRegarding the rules, I learned one thing in the first match with runaway. When the worm loses a turn and flies to the finish line, the timer is frozen at the moment of losing the turn, thereby saving time for a better result. If I had known about this earlier, I would never have participated. It is unfair, in my opinion. Before this, I knew that time only counts when touching the finishing position, but not before. But this does not affect my desire to play.
That has always been the case in TTRR and Big RR though, it's the standard scheme setting for over 20 years.
It's only challenges with LDET where this doesn't happen, or rubberworm.
In that case, I deeply apologize for getting carried away and deciding to play in this cup.
After all, I like to play BigRR
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet.
I did not receive any message from your side. I might play even today.
Quote from: rUNaW4y on August 22, 2024, 11:51 AMQuote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet.
I did not receive any message from your side. I might play even today.
(https://i.ibb.co/8gYMfL8/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-43-18-Cup-1250-Big-TTRR-Cup-2-The-Ultimate-Site-of-Worms-Armageddon.png)
This was the 2nd time I tried contacting everyone. If you have notifications turned off, then that's not my fault, that's yours.
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 12:44 PMQuote from: rUNaW4y on August 22, 2024, 11:51 AMQuote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet.
I did not receive any message from your side. I might play even today.
(https://i.ibb.co/8gYMfL8/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-43-18-Cup-1250-Big-TTRR-Cup-2-The-Ultimate-Site-of-Worms-Armageddon.png)
This was the 2nd time I tried contacting everyone. If you have notifications turned off, then that's not my fault, that's yours.
maybe it's because notifications don't always come?
Messenger is convenient, but still raw. Many people find it inconvenient, for example, any process on my PC lags if the site is running in the background.
Why shouldn't MI make it so that the player sees notifications better than now? and finally, bring back quick messages :(
Quote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 12:44 PMQuote from: rUNaW4y on August 22, 2024, 11:51 AMQuote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet.
I did not receive any message from your side. I might play even today.
(https://i.ibb.co/8gYMfL8/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-43-18-Cup-1250-Big-TTRR-Cup-2-The-Ultimate-Site-of-Worms-Armageddon.png)
This was the 2nd time I tried contacting everyone. If you have notifications turned off, then that's not my fault, that's yours.
Demanding people reading public channels on tus is quite ambitious (I rarely do so indeed). Private message on tus or Discord would be a better approach. I will be available today from 17:00 to 23:00 GMT (19:00 - 01:00 CEST). Reach me out on snooper.
Quote from: rUNaW4y on August 22, 2024, 12:57 PMQuote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 12:44 PMQuote from: rUNaW4y on August 22, 2024, 11:51 AMQuote from: TheKomodo on August 22, 2024, 07:37 AMReplace me please.
I've reached out to everyone via the TUS chat and nobody has even replied yet.
I did not receive any message from your side. I might play even today.
(https://i.ibb.co/8gYMfL8/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-43-18-Cup-1250-Big-TTRR-Cup-2-The-Ultimate-Site-of-Worms-Armageddon.png)
This was the 2nd time I tried contacting everyone. If you have notifications turned off, then that's not my fault, that's yours.
Demanding people reading public channels on tus is quite ambitious (I rarely do so indeed). Private message on tus or Discord would be a better approach. I will be available today from 17:00 to 23:00 GMT (19:00 - 01:00 CEST). Reach me out on snooper.
You get a notification though when someone uses that feature which is why I did it.
Now that's annoyed me even more and only set my decision in stone.
I will be unavailable until Tuesday. If things changes I will keep you up to date. Sorry for the Inconvenience.
@FoxHound @KinslayeR @Mega`Adnan @MicroHey, when are you available to play?
Kaleu made some nice Big TTRR or TT BigRR maps!
I'll add the mappack to the description:
https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/mappack-639/
I am back.
Tomorrow I will be available sometime afternoon GMT. Reach out to me and we take it from there.
x
Quote from: Masta on August 22, 2024, 02:26 PM@FoxHound @KinslayeR @Mega`Adnan @Micro
Hey, when are you available to play?
Sorry for late answer. I'm a bit busy lately and I am playing other cup games.
I can play during weekends at anytime.
During normal weekdays I can play from 21:30h GMT to 02:00h GMT.
I can play monday any time except from 13:00h GMT to 18:30h GMT. After 02:00h GMT I need to sleep.
Thursday I can play before 12:00h GMT.
I can play any time if I have a holyday (I will let you know if there's one)
Aight ppl, I guess it's time for a deadline. 3 weeks should be enough I think.
hf
Mostly waiting on group 3 tho. If you guys finishing soon we can move forward.
Less than 2 weeks left, and group 3 is kinda inactive.
I had to fix an issue with my PC last week. Now I can play and I'm usually available around 16:00-20:00 UTC.
I'm having troubles to play against Kinslayer and Masta. I am 💯% sure that I'll loose if I play against them, so I can give a free win if necessary, but I don't know if it's worth if they don't be active at the K.O. stage.
K.O. started!!
Keep in mind it's Bo7 now!
ae
@rUNaW4y I'm availavle on Sunday 6th at 16 GMT onwards or Tuesday same time
Quote from: Rocket on October 05, 2024, 04:58 PMae @rUNaW4y
I'm availavle on Sunday 6th at 16 GMT onwards or Tuesday same time
Hey, unfortunately I can not do it today, but Tuesday does work for me, let us say between 16:30 and 18:30 GMT (will pm you in AG in case it works for you)?
Quote from: rUNaW4y on October 05, 2024, 11:26 PMQuote from: Rocket on October 05, 2024, 04:58 PMae @rUNaW4y
I'm availavle on Sunday 6th at 16 GMT onwards or Tuesday same time
Hey, unfortunately I can not do it today, but Tuesday does work for me, let us say between 16:30 and 18:30 GMT (will pm you in AG in case it works for you)?
yup, it does! ottimo :)
Semi-Finals time!!
Mic vs blitz
and
Rocket vs Shtaket
Have fun!
ae
@Shtaket pls let me know when you are ready to play our game
Good job Mic for winning the second episode of this cup!!
Congratz to rocket for second!
Let's see what happens for the third place.
Sad it wasn't streamed tho :(
Quote from: Big Billy on October 23, 2024, 09:31 AMSad it wasn't streamed tho :(
I said the same thing, I even asked Rocket to organize it in advance so I'd stream it but apparently mic turned up said he's ready and didn't want to stream.
It's pretty sad.
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2024, 10:24 AMQuote from: Big Billy on October 23, 2024, 09:31 AMSad it wasn't streamed tho :(
I said the same thing, I even asked Rocket to organize it in advance so I'd stream it but apparently mic turned up said he's ready and didn't want to stream.
It's pretty sad.
I had no idea you wanted to stream it. Rocket only mentioned it when we were in lobby right before the game. it was a pretty close match, post game replay decided that ive won by some ms in the first 2 games.
Rocket specifically told me you didn't want to stream the match, so I'll ask him about this directly again because I've no idea why he would make up such a thing.
I asked him 2 days ago to organize the match in advance and then yesterday I got "We're about to play" and when I asked to delay and stream he told me it's not him it's you because you don't like being streamed.
Now I don't like this petty nonsense it makes us look like idiots who can't organize and stream a simple match. I also don't like being told lies if it isn't true.
This would be quite disappointing as such a high level match to stream is the reason CWA exists. Recently fewer streams have been happening.
I'm sorry the stream didn't happen. Mic offered me to play it yesterday and I knew he was in a good mood for that. So I wanted to get the game done yesterday. Too bad it couldn't be streamed that day.
Sorry I took our desire to play the game above the streaming initiative, didn't mean to offend anybody
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2024, 02:42 PMRocket specifically told me you didn't want to stream the match, so I'll ask him about this directly again because I've no idea why he would make up such a thing.
I asked him 2 days ago to organize the match in advance and then yesterday I got "We're about to play" and when I asked to delay and stream he told me it's not him it's you because you don't like being streamed.
Now I don't like this petty nonsense it makes us look like idiots who can't organize and stream a simple match. I also don't like being told lies if it isn't true.
This would be quite disappointing as such a high level match to stream is the reason CWA exists. Recently fewer streams have been happening.
well then there was probably some miscommunication on rocks part. i dont mind being streamed i just had no clue about all this being streamed at all. i think we were both pretty tired yesterday and just wanted to be done with it so that's probably the biggest reason why there was no stream. No need to read much more into it