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Title: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 12:46 AM
Alright let's gooo!

Time for a 2vs2 wxw cup :)

Open for suggestions for an other scheme. Picked the default wxw scheme now but I'm open for suggestions if most ppl prefer another scheme.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:02 AM
Any scheme without mines & barrels. :D
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Wolfgang on October 29, 2024, 01:11 AM
ae nice cup
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Rocket on October 29, 2024, 07:33 AM
oh wow good idea!
WxW is a cool scheme for 2v2. Also, we should make more 2v2 cups imo!
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AM
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:02 AMAny scheme without mines & barrels. :D

Hmm.. tbh I like barrels and mines in wxw for more variantions.

And in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Rocket on October 29, 2024, 12:05 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AMAnd in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.

spawns :o so it's not telestart?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:11 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AM
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:02 AMAny scheme without mines & barrels. :D

more variantions.

Luck*
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Kradie on October 29, 2024, 01:24 PM
But it is bo3 though..
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 02:37 PM
Quote from: Rocket on October 29, 2024, 12:05 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AMAnd in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.

spawns :o so it's not telestart?

Oh oops of course it is XD

Nevermind me then haha
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 03:36 PM
Well I made the group phase Bo1 now and finals are bo3.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: flashR on October 29, 2024, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 12:46 AMTime for a 2vs2 wxw cup :)
Open for suggestions for an other scheme.
Hey, nice cup! I'll join a bit later, if I find a partner.
I can offer some of my variations of WxW. At least it could be something new and unusual for many people, like a sip of fresh air.

WxW Shopper (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5151)
WxW Shopper (1 Crate) (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5152)
Acrobatic WxW Shopper (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5200)

They are constantly being tested for more than a year. The balance is quite good, although these schemes contains some of controversial / 'weird' weapons for WxW (cows, machine gun, axe). If any of the schemes are approved in general, it's possible to make some small changes to adapt to more competitive playstyle (mine fuse adjustment, mines a barrels number adjustment etc)... Any reasonable suggestions are welcome.

What's special about these schemes (briefly):

1. As I mentioned before, they contains some kind of 'weird' and unusual weapons for WxW: Cows, HHG, Machine Gun, Axe, Mole. Someone can say it's imbalanced. I can answer: balance can be created not only by banning all types of weapons, which damage is greater than a Sheep has, but also by allowing these types of weapons in a fair proportion. In this system one weapon balances the other. And I find this concept more interesting than the other, where half of the weapons are totally banned.

2. It is worth to mention, that the Mole Bomd and the Petrol Bomb are really good here, unlike the standard league WxW scheme, where Petrol inflicts less damage than Bazooka in the 95% of cases, and there's no Mole at all. Btw, the HostingBuddys scheme has a Mole, but it's completely useless shit there. So I fixed this inequity:
- Petrol Bomb now deals more damage on average than Bazooka (even on flat surface).
- Mole Bomb deals ~54 damage on precise hit, creating a blast wave slightly larger than a dynamite. This weapon is very convenient for knocking worms out from upper hideouts, knocking them down from the ceiling, or simply throwing them over large distances across the map (with LG used). Unique mechanic for usual WxW for sure.

3. There are LG and Freeze, as well-proven and usable things in HostingBuddys schemes.
4. There are different variations of the schemes:
- Usual version, similar as possible to the classic WxW, but with mentioned changes, of course.
- One Crate version, where the only one crate can be on the surface at a time. This version has its own advantages.
- Acrobatic version, where you can attack from air while flying (AFA), or in-between rope swings. This is the part of TestStuff.

I hope, someone will love these schemes, like me and my friends does. I'm open to any reasonable recommendations and feedback. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PM
Thanks flash,

I like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Tus Scheme vs Flash's Wxw Shopper scheme

If someone has other options may speak now. Could include that to the poll.

Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: flashR on November 01, 2024, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMI like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Sure, good idea. If people choose my scheme, I'd like to change the only mine fuse timer from random to 3 sec as usual. Random is fun ofc, but I think that mines must be more predictable in serious competitive games.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 02, 2024, 12:24 AM
Quote from: flashR on November 01, 2024, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMI like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Sure, good idea. If people choose my scheme, I'd like to change the only mine fuse timer from random to 3 sec as usual. Random is fun ofc, but I think that mines must be more predictable in serious competitive games.

Sounds reasonable.

Here's the poll: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/cups-and-tournaments-general/2vs2-wxw-cup-scheme-poll-37197/
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: rUNaW4y on November 04, 2024, 08:11 AM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMThanks flash,

I like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Tus Scheme vs Flash's Wxw Shopper scheme

If someone has other options may speak now. Could include that to the poll.



May I suggest considering bo3 for groups and KO stages, and maybe bo5 for the final? The wxw still has some random factors (e.g., crates positioning, weapons probability, etc.) and bo3 would penalize less those that might face a potential one-shoot bad luck (imo).
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 05, 2024, 07:11 PM
Quote from: rUNaW4y on November 04, 2024, 08:11 AM
Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMThanks flash,

I like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Tus Scheme vs Flash's Wxw Shopper scheme

If someone has other options may speak now. Could include that to the poll.



May I suggest considering bo3 for groups and KO stages, and maybe bo5 for the final? The wxw still has some random factors (e.g., crates positioning, weapons probability, etc.) and bo3 would penalize less those that might face a potential one-shoot bad luck (imo).

Yea, thank you.. I had this set in the first place.. made it so again because I have the same opinion as oyu on that.

So, it's set now.
It will be flash's scheme.

I uploaded a WXW scheme based on the flash scheme, but with tele spawn. https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5799

So we just need for some more players.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: flashR on November 05, 2024, 08:52 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 05, 2024, 07:11 PMI uploaded a WXW scheme based on the flash scheme, but with tele spawn. https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5799
Don't forget to set the mine fuse timer 3 sec and no dud mines.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 05, 2024, 09:15 PM
Quote from: flashR on November 05, 2024, 08:52 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 05, 2024, 07:11 PMI uploaded a WXW scheme based on the flash scheme, but with tele spawn. https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-5799
Don't forget to set the mine fuse timer 3 sec and no dud mines.

Done
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 07, 2024, 08:10 PM
When does the cup finally start?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: TheWalrus on November 07, 2024, 11:18 PM
maybe give me 2 days to find partner
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: KungPow on November 08, 2024, 02:09 PM
Quote from: TheWalrus on November 07, 2024, 11:18 PMmaybe give me 2 days to find partner
Heya, I'm available!
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 08, 2024, 08:14 PM
Ye, we need to wait until all joined ppl have a partner here.
Maybe 14 could be possible..
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: TheWalrus on November 09, 2024, 03:44 AM
Quote from: KungPow on November 08, 2024, 02:09 PM
Quote from: TheWalrus on November 07, 2024, 11:18 PMmaybe give me 2 days to find partner
Heya, I'm available!
ok u and me kp, lets do it ;D , password is 1337
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 09, 2024, 06:22 PM
Who wants to play with me?? When?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Aladdin on November 10, 2024, 08:55 PM
Who will sponsor this cup$$$?;D
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 11, 2024, 09:54 PM
So far we got 2 ppl not paired yet that signed up:

Mega`Adnan and MarCello.

You guys still searching for partner?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: rUNaW4y on November 11, 2024, 10:50 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 11, 2024, 09:54 PMSo far we got 2 ppl not paired yet that signed up:

Mega`Adnan and MarCello.

You guys still searching for partner?

What about 'Adnan teaming with MarCello? Might be a killer combo in the end.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Godmax on November 12, 2024, 07:39 AM
Adnanovic has a dirty dirty pw so watch out if you wanna join him
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 12, 2024, 06:01 PM
I'm looking for a partner!
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 12, 2024, 08:42 PM
Adnan would be available? xd

Btw, medals added
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: RIP on November 13, 2024, 03:00 AM
Yo mates. Do not played this so much time... want will trying it again  :-[
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 13, 2024, 01:56 PM
Quote from: RIP on November 13, 2024, 03:00 AMYo mates. Do not played this so much time... want will trying it again  :-[

Nice! Welcome back!!
We just played your maps ae

You need a partner tho, since it's a 2vs2 cup
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: RIP on November 14, 2024, 02:01 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 13, 2024, 01:56 PM
Quote from: RIP on November 13, 2024, 03:00 AMYo mates. Do not played this so much time... want will trying it again  :-[

Nice! Welcome back!!
We just played your maps ae

You need a partner tho, since it's a 2vs2 cup
Yep. I know.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: RIP on November 14, 2024, 02:03 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 13, 2024, 01:56 PMWe just played your maps ae
I have maps, what not was on tus))) I can try search and download it if u want
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Godmax on November 14, 2024, 02:37 PM
Adnanovic' pw is very dirty
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 15, 2024, 12:53 PM
Quote from: RIP on November 14, 2024, 02:03 PM
Quote from: Big Billy on November 13, 2024, 01:56 PMWe just played your maps ae
I have maps, what not was on tus))) I can try search and download it if u want

Nah, just meant that we played your wxw maps recently.. If the RIP wxw maps (bit maps) are yours^^
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 19, 2024, 08:24 AM
Just marcello left to pair up!

Can we find someone here?
@MarCello
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 19, 2024, 09:24 AM
idk....
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Kradie on November 19, 2024, 01:24 PM
Can one noble kind anonymous reader, partner up with Marcello (Assuming you enjoy WxW).
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: FoxHound on November 19, 2024, 03:38 PM
I'm not the best roper in the world, but if MarCello accepts, I like WxW. I just need a password, I guess.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 19, 2024, 03:47 PM
i accept! what time in hungarian time?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: FoxHound on November 20, 2024, 01:43 AM
Check the private message I sent to you here on TUS.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 21, 2024, 07:13 PM
@FoxHound @MarCello
Guys you are both in as players but not paired up.
If I would have the power to change it I would but I guess you need to join with the password^^
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on November 21, 2024, 08:10 PM
and how is that?  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: FoxHound on November 21, 2024, 08:58 PM
Ok, let me explain the situation. I tried to join the cup using the password MarCello thought to be the right one. It failed. So, I created one and asked him to quit the cup and rejoin it using my password at the side of my nickname. I didn't know if it worked, because honestly TUS 2vs2 cup registration system is confuse. I only realized it failed because BigBilly commented. Now I quit the cup and used my own password at the side of MarCello's nickname because he probably used my password as his password. So, it should have worked now, but I still don't know if it worked. It's hard to visualize who is paired with who or who is alone. And the calculations of possible players and pairings are probably wrong, or buggy (see the attachment)
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on November 21, 2024, 09:28 PM
Quote from: FoxHound on November 21, 2024, 08:58 PMOk, let me explain the situation. I tried to join the cup using the password MarCello thought to be the right one. It failed. So, I created one and asked him to quit the cup and rejoin it using my password at the side of my nickname. I didn't know if it worked, because honestly TUS 2vs2 cup registration system is confuse. I only realized it failed because BigBilly commented. Now I quit the cup and used my own password at the side of MarCello's nickname because he probably used my password as his password. So, it should have worked now, but I still don't know if it worked. It's hard to visualize who is paired with who or who is alone. And the calculations of possible players and pairings are probably wrong, or buggy (see the attachment)

It worked!

The groups are paired!
Have fun all!
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: FoxHound on November 21, 2024, 09:46 PM
MarCello and I are available to play this weekend.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: RIP on November 29, 2024, 07:06 PM
Aladdin
Kradie
Dibz
when will we play?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Kradie on December 02, 2024, 09:09 PM
Oliver and I should be available most days this week and beyond at these times: 21.30 CET.

Find me on snooper or discord. Find Oliver on discord or randomly in AG.

That's all for now.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on December 10, 2024, 03:51 PM
hm hmm
Still no games played.
Whats up? :D
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Kradie on December 10, 2024, 04:11 PM
I asked blitzed today if he would like to play. He told me and Oliver that Runaway is working.

Additionally I can't play late anymore but shortly after 16th December it should be fine to do.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: FoxHound on December 12, 2024, 03:16 PM
this weekend maybe? ne1?
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on December 13, 2024, 09:48 AM
Quote from: FoxHound on December 12, 2024, 03:16 PMthis weekend maybe? ne1?

I would have time. I ask @Micro
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Kradie on December 22, 2024, 06:09 PM
I been a bit busy lately with Christmas season, travels, and being sick.

Hopefully this week we should be able to play a game or more.

Find us in AG or elsewhere and we can try set up the game.

But optimal time should be sometime after 21.00 on most days.

I will be busy 23rd and 24th though.
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on January 16, 2025, 09:13 AM
Hmm.. Should I just close this one or some ppl try to schedule their games?

@ my Group:
We would have time this weekend / Evenings
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on January 16, 2025, 09:15 AM
Aight, I set a deadline to 1st of march for the group phase.
Let's see what happens
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: TheWalrus on January 16, 2025, 03:04 PM
i need kungpow discord, will make effort to do games
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: MarCello on February 15, 2025, 12:04 PM
this is cup will soon deleting!
Title: Re: Cup #1256, WxW 2vs2 CuP
Post by: Big Billy on February 15, 2025, 05:36 PM
Yup, you are right.