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Cups and Tournaments => Cups and Tournaments Comments => Topic started by: OREL on March 11, 2013, 07:17 PM
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weeee dont forget PM to me then sign ups started)))
fun scheme) like it)
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Thank you OREL :)
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this sounds fun =D
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guess we'll just have to wait :(
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weeeeeee
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damn, got no time atm :/
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w/e, will work.
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Pairings are up ;)
Gl hf guys 8)
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well,play firts game and i think this sheme need some fix.delete bunge(u cant use is some times) and girder pack(u can block a lot of enemy worms)
shemes from wo link are good,maybe use it
gl hf
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Update:
Regarding girders: blocking of worms is not allowed. The worm must be able to walk/jump out.
Regarding bungee: must use it if you can, if you really can't (and other player agree that you can't) you can skip your turn.
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can i use scheme from WA? (wothout chute, bungee etc)
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Nope.
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Rowy cup pairings are up ;)
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-555/
Deadline for the 1st week is 2 weeks as usual.
Rule Update:
-Regarding girders: blocking of worms is not allowed. The worm must be able to walk/jump out.
-Regarding bungee: must use it if you can, if you really can't (and other player agree that you can't) you can skip your turn.
Sorry about this. Any games that were already played still stand though, whether there was a girder or bungee-cow in it or not.
Take it into account for next games plz.
I'm happy you sent that personal message at least. I think you should have tested the anti-updated, stolen, raped and uploaded scheme from philie before opening a cup with it.
After over two years I thought it is time to share Rowy and finally write down the necessary words.
Please read them here (it also tells the history and how you have to fix this bugged RowyRemix here (if you don't want to fix the RowyRemix which you want to play here, then change the wrong rules at least and put 2 teams instead of 3 teams (please read the Addition at my url, too))): https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-946/
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I thought philie made it dennis, so naturally I went with his new scheme.
And it's good IMO. The girders are a nice addition if you dont block worms with it, you can build yourself a nice hide. Same goes for bungee.
It's a good scheme, just needed those extra 2 rules.
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The worst thing is not even that his scheme is clumsy and bugged without a lot of fixes, the worst thing is the name faking and playing this wrong named cup with a wrong named scheme.
You called this cup Rowy (I know philie caused the faking by calling his RowyRemix Rowy, too) but you say it is forbidden to use the scheme which is called Rowy and that is really silly. It kills a lot of fun to play with a bugged scheme and let Rowy look bad! It isn't even an updated scheme, because it is actually the opposite!
It would be ok if you rename it to RowyRemix, Full-Rowy or Rowy-All!
It is correct that with several extra rules it could work with some luck and that it can be fun if you are lucky and can swing with the bungee and do a nice fly to better hide for example, but that luck that you could use bungee so nice will almost never happen. The heights distance for a good working bungee has a small tolerance so you will mainly have to skip and lose several turns, plop a worm or avoid 2 main rules!
There actually has to be 4 more rules added:
1) Skip a turn if you can't use bungee if it is not possible isn't enough because the next turn you will have to use bungee again and so on which would probably cause a lot of skipped and lost turns and to lose because of bad luck kills too much fun. I'm sorry but the RowyRemix has much more contras than pros.
2) If you can't use bungee at first try (it could happen that you could never use bungee and end in a skiprace) then you have to tell an extra rule to the extra rule: Not only skip 1 turn, skip the whole weapon!
3) 2 Teams instead of 3 Teams or fix the delay-bug if you want to change the main Rowy rules, too and keep playing with 3 teams! 3 Teams would be ok after a schemefix because then you could attack more often.
4) No 100% blocking with girders.
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The worst thing is not even that his scheme is clumsy and bugged without a lot of fixes, the worst thing is the name faking and playing this wrong named cup with a wrong named scheme.
You called this cup Rowy (I know philie caused the faking by calling his RowyRemix Rowy, too) but you say it is forbidden to use the scheme which is called Rowy and that is really silly. It kills a lot of fun to play with a bugged scheme and let Rowy look bad! It isn't even an updated scheme, because it is actually the opposite!
It would be ok if you rename it to RowyRemix, Full-Rowy or Rowy-All!
It is correct that with several extra rules it could work with some luck and that it can be fun if you are lucky and can swing with the bungee and do a nice fly to better hide for example, but that luck that you could use bungee so nice will almost never happen. The heights distance for a good working bungee has a small tolerance so you will mainly have to skip and lose several turns, plop a worm or avoid 2 main rules!
There actually has to be 4 more rules added:
1) Skip a turn if you can't use bungee if it is not possible isn't enough because the next turn you will have to use bungee again and so on which would probably cause a lot of skipped and lost turns and to lose because of bad luck kills too much fun. I'm sorry but the RowyRemix has much more contras than pros.
2) If you can't use bungee at first try (it could happen that you could never use bungee and end in a skiprace) then you have to tell an extra rule to the extra rule: Not only skip 1 turn, skip the whole weapon!
3) 2 Teams instead of 3 Teams or fix the delay-bug if you want to change the main Rowy rules, too and keep playing with 3 teams! 3 Teams would be ok after a schemefix because then you could attack more often.
4) No 100% blocking with girders.
how come u didn't speak while we were still waiting for the cup to start? )=
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well it doesn't matter anymore =)
anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?
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well it doesn't matter anymore =)
anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?
Thank you very much. I'm very sorry that I didn't talk earlier about it, Peja just said that there will be a Rowy cup and I clicked join without looking. Then I was busy sometimes, drove with my stunt inline skates, played sport-games (yes, really offline, I can't believe if I read that ;D) and juggled (no, not only with my balls, perverts :P) so I didn't care much about this cup and when I was at home I just was playing a lot (finally I'm not an absolute beginner nomore, :D)
+ Writing everything for that as detailed as possible and factual (yes, that's DENnis' Quality) took a very long time for me. I just read Uzurpators and ORELs comments later and it was strange to see "Rules Copyright by philie", wtf? (but maybe he just means that he changed a word or sentence), and that we won't play Rowy at a Rowy-Cup. After that I just had to write down the necessary words which shall not sound unfriendly because philie and HHC probably just tryed to make Rowy more famous which could be a good thing if it would have been done in the correct way, too.
The main thing here is just that we have fun anyway because Rowy was meant as a varied fun scheme where you just use more weapons as in the known standard schemes.
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lol man.
first thing to say: i never claimed any copyright for rowy, but instead said it was yours (and pejas) scheme. check scheme info: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-936/, or any rowy wo cups (check od-profile for the links). if you want, i can add in the subtitle that it's a "full-rowy remix" or whatever.
you think i "raped" your scheme, but i think i improved it. the decision to add the 4 remaining weaps was tested of course. nevertheless the girder and bungee rules makes sense, i'll add them to the description.
to the worms number: there's a delay prob with mortar, yes. then it works. that's a small problem to gain something bigger: rowy games often last till armageddon, while with 2 teams per player they often are finished at f9 or f10.
some final note:
without peja and me hosting a rowy-fest each wo, YOUR scheme would have been forgotten already 2 years ago, so pls stop shouting at me.
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Peja, Den, Prince i'm in AG today and tommorow :) PM
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I didn't shout, I just wrote down the necessary facts after the first complaints came up here because I don't like misunderstandings.
The bug is not caused by Mortar, lol, like I said every delayed weapon has to get 1 turn delay less for every new team you add. Of course thats a lot of work to fix it, that's why I suggest to use better maps instead of more worms (watch the Example Replay if you want). To skip one turn every game because of the delay bug and hope that your oppenent knows about ur delay bug or reads the chat so that he won't attack you with Patsy's Magic Bullet is a clumsy way. Same goes for Bungee where the whole "weapon" has to be skipped and not only 1 turn, like I explained in many ways already. And then you have the problem that the delay is wrong for the whole rest of the game which is bad, too.
I see the pros at your adds, too, don't worry. I like bungee btw. It just doesn't fit to Rowy because it wouldn't work in the most games, causes cows or unnecessary dying worms (Yes, with 3 Teams it wouldn't hurt so much to lose 1 turn and 1 worm more in a lot of cases but anyway I don't like suicide).
+ Read my last post here. Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules. Last post:
well it doesn't matter anymore =)
anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?
Thank you very much. I'm very sorry that I didn't talk earlier about it, Peja just said that there will be a Rowy cup and I clicked join without looking. Then I was busy sometimes, drove with my stunt inline skates, played sport-games (yes, really offline, I can't believe if I read that ;D) and juggled (no, not only with my balls, perverts :P) so I didn't care much about this cup and when I was at home I just was playing a lot (finally I'm not an absolute beginner nomore, :D)
+ Writing everything for that as detailed as possible and factual (yes, that's DENnis' Quality) took a very long time for me. I just read Uzurpators and ORELs comments later and it was strange to see "Rules Copyright by philie", wtf? (but maybe he just means that he changed a word or sentence), and that we won't play Rowy at a Rowy-Cup. After that I just had to write down the necessary words which shall not sound unfriendly because philie and HHC probably just tryed to make Rowy more famous which could be a good thing if it would have been done in the correct way, too.
The main thing here is just that we have fun anyway because Rowy was meant as a varied fun scheme where you just use more weapons as in the known standard schemes.
i'm in AG go play cup?
At that time I was at work, but tomorrow I'll have a free day so I can play a lot today and tomorrow :P
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IMO, playing with bungee would be more interesting... It makes you think many turns ahead not to get in the spot where you can't use it. 8)
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me n dmitry agreed tomorrow 14:00 GMT, but if we fail that we r gonna try 16:00 GMT xD
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like I said every delayed weapon has to get 1 turn delay less for every new team you add.
thanks, i didn't know that.
Of course thats a lot of work to fix it
2 mins.
And then you have the problem that the delay is wrong for the whole rest of the game which is bad, too.
nah. that's not true. if you skip mortar, the rest of the delays work fine.
but that doesn't matter, cause i fixed this bug.
plus there'll be 2 schemes: 1 for 3 teams vs 3 teams games, and the other for 2 vs 2 (vs 2).
Bungee just doesn't fit to Rowy because it wouldn't work in the most games, causes cows or unnecessary dying worms.
well... i just don't think so :)
Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules.
guess we're fine then.
i'm gonna change the name to Rowy 2.0 and link to the original scheme you uploaded.
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+ Read my last post here. Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules.
It was Phil who uploaded the scheme here (it was still missing), I copied the rules from the scheme description and changed 1 or 2 things. The core text was Phil's though, that's why copyright him.
I hope this thing is settled now. Cup advances :)
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Yes all good now, ty for the listening and fixing.
I think that scheme works good with the extra rules and 3 worms teams fixes and if the maps are very good like the map "fatman" where u have several levels. then u have a good chance that bungee will work. + I just did 2 nice bungees alrdy in my 2 past games. 1 with getting a crate and swing back to hide and one with swing back to top too at the aladdin map, I suggest u use maps like that then both schemes works great.
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1 thing to do: hhc: could you update the cup page once more? you need to change the scheme to this 1: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-951/ (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-951/)
and maybe tell every1 to download it again...
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Hmm, not a fan of changing a scheme in the middle of a cup.
I replaced the scheme in the cup description though, It's the same right? Just mortar bug removed?
Both can be used then, don't think ppl will even notice :)
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ya, alright
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Nice job on the activity people, still 9 days left and most of the games are done already 8)
Might even be able to start k/o soon :-[
edit: for draws in standings amount of worms/hp counts.
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edit: for draws in standings amount of worms/hp counts.
pff,c'mon jot i belive in you
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well if jot wins im out for sure. Lost with like 8 worms against chelsea haha
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Prince_Egypt GO AG
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Prince_Egypt GO AG
I never see him. If he's inactive maybe replace him with some1 who wanna play.
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hmm hes not totally inactive, just rare imo.
pm/im him at all places :)
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Sorry i am busy little tomorrow can play (tests ) xD
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Sorry i am busy little tomorrow can play (tests ) xD
Ah ok np then, thats why I wrote "If" ..
Gl with ur tests, probably see you tomorrow then.
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Prince i can play 26,27,28 mar 15-20 GMT wait for you in AG
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Prince i can play 26,27,28 mar 15-20 GMT wait for you in AG
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I was playing everyday as u can see at my recent tusgames. I'll be there friday from 3pm gmt0 to 4pm gmt0 and in the night from friday to saturday and in the night from saturday to sunday gmt0.
U cant miss me I'm one of the most active players if theres not much work (like in the winter and springtime).
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prince will play loootta rowy the next 2 days :D
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Yo, almost there :)
Waiting for Tomi vs Antho, that will be a deciding match :) Rest seems pretty much done, unless prince gets going ;)
But yeah, once tomi and antho are done i'll start k/o and just scratch the remaining deadline.
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I am thinking about giving to Antho the win.. Or maybe today we will play it, but I don't know if I want to play a rematch. My last move was so stupid that I may not deserve to win.. Yes, we played a drawn match in Rowy xD -.-
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lol 8)
try to play it tomi, for the sake of it :-*
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Deadline is up, players advanced.
Prince of Egypt, you have until monday to get your final games done. No play = game over.
Group D: Antho & Tomi. Same for you, till monday to play ;)
K/o 1st round deadline is one week later.
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Deadline is up, players advanced.
Prince of Egypt, you have until monday to get your final games done.
Done. Although he's a cowmaster it was a funny game, I'm happy that we were playing our game and that you had some fun, too. Thank you for PM'ing me Prince_Egypt.
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Prince i can play 1,2 april ~15-20gmt i will be in AG and you can PM me here)
HHC i hope you can give him time) like play all my games) but cant today(
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Well if Prince can play on 1 april it's still ok. I'll be away on the 2nd and 3rd, so I want to move all groups ahead then, besides, he's had plenty of time :-[
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so, what now?
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i didnt see prince...
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Ok, knockouts are up. :)
Orel vs Antho
Dennis vs Hurz
Antho goes through cause better worms record than Tomi (won with 3; lost with 1, while Tomi won with 1 and lost with 1).
Gl hf guys :)
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mmmmm why am I not in knockouts maybe?
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(http://c.wrzuta.pl/wi17010/9b28e6a8001ad04b49ad3d3d/rowy)
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i hope there will be another rowy cup soon :)
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antho where are you? i wait you in AG today or 11,12 april 15-20 GMT
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(http://c.wrzuta.pl/wi17010/9b28e6a8001ad04b49ad3d3d/rowy)
lol
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Congrats to the winners!
*puts feather up his ass*
Cup finished ;)
Maybe till next time? 8)
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Congrats to the winners!
*puts feather up his ass*
Cup finished ;)
Maybe till next time? 8)
Thank you, you too. Yes, there should be a next time. A lot of funny situations happened, I hope everybody enjoyed it (http://dirtydennis.di.funpic.de/fun/SchauendeGiraffe.gif)