The Ultimate Site of Worms Armageddon
One-Boards => Files => Topic started by: Infomaniac95 on July 24, 2020, 12:59 AM
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Worms2 is an interesting little game. Compared to Armageddon, its similar in many ways, but in others, it isn't. One aspect that varies wildly from Armageddon is the soundtrack. For Worms2, the composer took a direction that the other Worms game never really did, resulting in a pretty unique soundtrack that has become a personal favorite of mine.
The mod I have made here aims to put in as many Worms2 songs into the game as available. The placement of the songs is based off of what I felt fit best, in terms of replacing the old songs. For songs that are not replaced, they are using higher quality versions of the songs, sourced from the console ports. You can find a mod for Armageddon's music that is using only these high quality versions, if desired: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/files/worms-armageddon-high-quality-music-pack-32051/ (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/files/worms-armageddon-high-quality-music-pack-32051/)
There are 2 versions of the pack. One with ambience baked in, and the other without. The baked-in ambience versions do not cover all tracks, unfortunately, so a few are still without ambience. This is due to the original Worms2 game having less CD Audio music tracks, then what is present on the soundtrack.
Links are down below:
No Baked-in Ambience: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vb6G9m9fHIggcqVqNUsBCtA0g1PXyVfZ/view?usp=sharing
Baked-in Ambience: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W9T8ZnVu8EDvrX_waHHSwORabVIxTnLU/view?usp=sharing
To install the pack for the Steam version, go to your Armageddon directory, then to the DATA folder. From there, go into the Streams folder. Put all files from the archive, into the Streams folder. If it asks to overwrite anything, let it do so. From there, you should have Worms2 music in your game.
If you are on the CD version, get the WormKit module known as FileOverride: http://worms.thecybershadow.net/wormkit/wkFileOverride.zip
Copy the contents of the archive to your Worms Armageddon directory (where the EXE is). From there, go into your DATA folder. If for some reason there is not a DATA folder, make one. Then, make a Streams folder. From there, move the WAV files to the newly created Streams directory. This should be all you have to do, but, if you don't have loading of WormKit modules enabled, enable it, or else you won't hear the music play.
I hope you all enjoy the mod, and the music, as much as I have. Thank you for reading.
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Thank you! I missed the good old Worms 2 music. It even makes the game more exciting! I must say I like the higher-quality ambient music from Worms: Armageddon too, except the win and lose music, which sounds toned down.
What method do you use for putting these files into the Streams folder? The folder is located in my ISO image of the CD-ROM, which requires external software to modify. I assume it is not required for the Steam version of the game, for example. I think I will try AnyBurn. A note about this could be good in the instructions. A note about backing up the original files could be good too.
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Thank you! I missed the good old Worms 2 music. It even makes the game more exciting! I must say I like the higher-quality ambient music from Worms: Armageddon too, except the win and lose music, which sounds toned down.
What method do you use for putting these files into the Streams folder? The folder is located in my ISO image of the CD-ROM, which requires external software to modify. I assume it is not required for the Steam version of the game, for example. I think I will try AnyBurn. A note about this could be good in the instructions. A note about backing up the original files could be good too.
I had not considered this, but, ill see what I can do. It seems you can use a WormKit module for CD copies, called FileOverride. Ill update my post on using the the pack with CD copies. Sorry for the inconvenience.
EDIT: Done
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I would like to get the Worms World Party ambient tracks in WA. The WWP remastered version uses 22Khz max. Did the dreamcast version of WWP have higher quality audio?
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I managed to rip the ambient music tracks that are unique to WWP (CD quality, from the Dreamcast ROM). Link here if anyone wants them :
https://mega.nz/file/WRgiSCYT#eEvUg-v8pinmDJPPfYfAayCBwqNWHXFsCOY8j6Ne5io
I'm using Terion's NewWave WormKit module which works great with 3.8 Steam version. Now I can randomise all high quality tracks from WA, WWP and W2.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/wormkit-module-for-ingame-music-32542/
One very minor thing I've noticed is when a track ends, the next track won't start until the next worm's turn. I think this is a WA code thing.
It would be great if WA integrated this module's functionality and had a separate volume control for music. Supporting other audio formats like .opus and .mp3 would be awesome as well, cutting down on the huge file sizes. Maybe one day :D
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Thank you Brickster and ReadyWorm.
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Sorry for the delay, but version's with ambience baked in, are now uploaded, for people who want that.
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Nice one The_Brickster :)
While we're on a roll, here's the Worms Reloaded tracks, which I think are really good! They're clearly based on the original tracks but still very different. The Sudden Death track is way more tense / dramatic : https://mega.nz/file/3Vp1HJJQ#-gmVeru4sZ8CoZygyRyxBSt4RoWrj0P3Uy3DUb6AZ7o
I found the FLACs online and checked the quality in a spectrum analyser to make sure they hadn't been butchered/MP3'd first. They're all high/original quality, full spectrum 44.1khz.
I removed the first few seconds of the SuddenDeath track so that it loops perfectly in WA (the original had a fade in).
Enjoy!
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Mr ReadyWorm. Could it be possible of you to upload these tracks on to MediaFire or Jottacloud?
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Here's another link if you're having trouble with Mega : https://gofile.io/d/KqCQzP
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I have a question in regards to Worms 2 soundtrack. There is a track consisting only of nature sounds. I have not heard this piece outside of Worms 2 but only in the game. The game picks it randomly as any other tracks.
Does anyone know what I speak of?
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I have a question in regards to Worms 2 soundtrack. There is a track consisting only of nature sounds. I have not heard this piece outside of Worms 2 but only in the game. The game picks it randomly as any other tracks.
Does anyone know what I speak of?
I think it's this track, but not sure. It's what Pac-Man used in his PX mod.
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It would be great if WA integrated this module's functionality and had a separate volume control for music. Supporting other audio formats like .opus and .mp3 would be awesome as well, cutting down on the huge file sizes. Maybe one day :D
Using lossy compression destroys high-quality experience...
...anyway, I think the game's engine works smoother when it operates with uncompressed *.wav files...
You can always use some media player to play your favourite music in background, this solves the problem with pause between tracks and you can set your volume as you desire, so for me there's no sense of requesting any code changes in this area, while the guys have enough work with the updates and new features :)
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Someone should snag the Worms Revolution soundtrack as well. Probably the best background music of all of the Worms titles IMO.
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It would be great if WA integrated this module's functionality and had a separate volume control for music. Supporting other audio formats like .opus and .mp3 would be awesome as well, cutting down on the huge file sizes. Maybe one day :D
Using lossy compression destroys high-quality experience...
...anyway, I think the game's engine works smoother when it operates with uncompressed *.wav files...
You can always use some media player to play your favourite music in background, this solves the problem with pause between tracks and you can set your volume as you desire, so for me there's no sense of requesting any code changes in this area, while the guys have enough work with the updates and new features :)
Destroys the high-quality experience? It's lossy, yes, but you won't be able to tell the difference between the original WAV and a high bitrate (200KBs+) .opus file or 320Kbs MP3 file. Instead of having 1GB of WAV's, you can have <100mb .opus files.
Decoding MP3 or .opus in-game would place so little burden on your CPU, it's barely worth talking about, and it would decrease disk I/O.
Not priority change obviously, just nice to have.
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It would be great if WA integrated this module's functionality and had a separate volume control for music. Supporting other audio formats like .opus and .mp3 would be awesome as well, cutting down on the huge file sizes. Maybe one day :D
Using lossy compression destroys high-quality experience...
...anyway, I think the game's engine works smoother when it operates with uncompressed *.wav files...
You can always use some media player to play your favourite music in background, this solves the problem with pause between tracks and you can set your volume as you desire, so for me there's no sense of requesting any code changes in this area, while the guys have enough work with the updates and new features :)
Destroys the high-quality experience? It's lossy, yes, but you won't be able to tell the difference between the original WAV and a high bitrate (200KBs+) .opus file or 320Kbs MP3 file. Instead of having 1GB of WAV's, you can have <100mb .opus files.
Decoding MP3 or .opus in-game would place so little burden on your CPU, it's barely worth talking about, and it would decrease disk I/O.
Not priority change obviously, just nice to have.
I've already heard this before, for multiple times, but it all depends on what your ears are used to hear everyday, every time you're listening up some music, or even when you're watching a movies... (all sounds I hear, even those from movies, are at the highest quality possible, simultaneously pitched down in a real-time from 440 to 432 Hz, according to the "A4" note)
I can really hear and feel the difference, especially when I can turn subwoofer off hardware-side (I prefer hardware EQ, trying to avoid the software ones), because the biggest quality impact of lossy compression is noticeable through the high frequencies (like hi-hat, crash, hi-pitched piano or violin).
To be sure who's right you need to at least try a different way, not just repeating what others want you to think...
...did you know that standard cd-quality is some kind of compression already compared to analog audio sound from a vinyl or a good deck playing good quality tape? When you compare the sound spectrum you'll see how a digital sound got compressed.
Any further questions? :)
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I've already heard this before, for multiple times, but it all depends on what your ears are used to hear everyday, every time you're listening up some music, or even when you're watching a movies... (all sounds I hear, even those from movies, are at the highest quality possible, simultaneously pitched down in a real-time from 440 to 432 Hz, according to the "A4" note)
I can really hear and feel the difference, especially when I can turn subwoofer off hardware-side (I prefer hardware EQ, trying to avoid the software ones), because the biggest quality impact of lossy compression is noticeable through the high frequencies (like hi-hat, crash, hi-pitched piano or violin).
To be sure who's right you need to at least try a different way, not just repeating what others want you to think...
...did you know that standard cd-quality is some kind of compression already compared to analog audio sound from a vinyl or a good deck playing good quality tape? When you compare the sound spectrum you'll see how a digital sound got compressed.
Any further questions?
What are you talking about? CD captures a bandlimited signal to half the sampling rate, as per Nyquist, so perfectly reproduces frequencies up to 22Khz. No compression. The 16 bits of dynamic range also exceeds vinyl and tape by a large margin even without dithering and noise shaping which gives even more headroom. Lets not even go into the inherent flaws of vinyl and tape!
Back to my point though, which was that you won't be able to tell the difference between a well encoded stereo .opus file and the lossless source, on any equipment ... why don't you just do blind ABX trials and prove that you can? I look forward to seeing your results Mr.Golden Ears :) !
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I've already heard this before, for multiple times, but it all depends on what your ears are used to hear everyday, every time you're listening up some music, or even when you're watching a movies... (all sounds I hear, even those from movies, are at the highest quality possible, simultaneously pitched down in a real-time from 440 to 432 Hz, according to the "A4" note)
I can really hear and feel the difference, especially when I can turn subwoofer off hardware-side (I prefer hardware EQ, trying to avoid the software ones), because the biggest quality impact of lossy compression is noticeable through the high frequencies (like hi-hat, crash, hi-pitched piano or violin).
To be sure who's right you need to at least try a different way, not just repeating what others want you to think...
...did you know that standard cd-quality is some kind of compression already compared to analog audio sound from a vinyl or a good deck playing good quality tape? When you compare the sound spectrum you'll see how a digital sound got compressed.
Any further questions?
What are you talking about? CD captures a bandlimited signal to half the sampling rate, as per Nyquist, so perfectly reproduces frequencies up to 22Khz. No compression. The 16 bits of dynamic range also exceeds vinyl and tape by a large margin even without dithering and noise shaping which gives even more headroom. Lets not even go into the inherent flaws of vinyl and tape!
Back to my point though, which was that you won't be able to tell the difference between a well encoded stereo .opus file and the lossless source, on any equipment ... why don't you just do blind ABX trials and prove that you can? I look forward to seeing your results Mr.Golden Ears :) !
...all you written here is old, while they didn't want to write on each CD that it won't give the same feeling as analog audio. Vinyl's clicks and crackles have nothing to do with the sound spectrum and did you even hear about metal tapes?
Did you ever hear of hi-res audio?
You're just showing your ignorance and I don't feel a need to prove anything to anyone, but I can assure you I can more feel the difference than hear it, it's hard to explain and I don't think you're the one who can understand that. Greets <3
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...all you written here is old, while they didn't want to write on each CD that it won't give the same feeling as analog audio. Vinyl's clicks and crackles have nothing to do with the sound spectrum and did you even hear about metal tapes?
Did you ever hear of hi-res audio?
You're just showing your ignorance and I don't feel a need to prove anything to anyone, but I can assure you I can more feel the difference than hear it, it's hard to explain and I don't think you're the one who can understand that. Greets <3
It sounds like confirmation bias to me. The ABX tests would prove it either way, it would be interesting to see if you really can feel the difference.
Hi-res audio is a bad idea (unless recording/mixing), sold as snake oil and can actually make the sound worse than 44.1. Monty Montgomery does a great video on this here. Also, a lot of vinyls are cut with lathes that use digital lines - so is it really analogue? ;)
https://web.archive.org/web/20200426050432/http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html