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TheKomodo:

--- Quote from: skunk3 on October 03, 2017, 06:49 AM ---I'm also not a fan of the most popular genres these days... MOBA is boring as f@#! and not even remotely interesting, FPS is only fun when it isn't broken and preferably it's co-op rather than pure pvp. MMOs seem like fun in theory but in reality all it is just endless, boring grinding.

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Hit the nail on the head there.

While I played WoW intensively for about 5 years, and at the time it generally felt awesome, so many times i'd sit there waiting on stuff, and during those waiting periods i'm telling myself, "what the f**k are you doing with your time", but it was literally more addictive than cigarettes for me.

Now I feel like I wasted a huge part of my life after reading this, i've never played WoW again, and never will:

http://www.mostdangerousgamedesign.com/2013/08/the-psychology-of-rewards-in-games.html

It even made me stop playing WA so much... I feel bad for anyone addicted to DOTA/LoL/Warhammer/WoW etc. I can't lie and say I didn't enjoy some of the storyline though in WoW, but the same thing that is ruining gaming is the same thing ruining the entire world, money and greed, if people weren't so desperate for money, they wouldn't have to make stupid DLC and worry about keeping players hooked for as long as possible, they could just make shorter, more interesting games, and not have to worry about a player abandoning it once completed.

The fact you have to grind in games, is insulting, but of course without it, the companies would make like 50-70% less money off their dumbass consumers.

Some people say "But it helps teach people about hard work paying off" - Umm, SHUT THE F**K UP, no it isn't, it's so they can milk people for as much money as possible.

Kradie:
You should not try to feel bad for what other people choose to do with their lives. Of course, one could feel bad for you too, for having pity on other's decisions.  It is in my opinion a little condescending view, to look down. Instead it is better to accept and perhaps cherish the choices that people make in their lives. As longest these choices makes people happy, and it doesn't hurt anyone else, why would it be anyone's issue?

It is what Gandalf said “All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

It is kind of society's fault for lot of us to think this way. People have expectations, if it isn't met, it is disregarded and frowned upon. It is a tabu to be indifferent,. It shouldn't be like this, no one has the right to tell you what you should do and how to live your life. But it is obvious if you're living an unhealthy lifestyle or a life of crime, then that's where someone should reach in.

TheKomodo:
I don't feel bad for what other people choose to do with their lives, I said I feel bad for anyone addicted to those games.

It's ok to enjoy something, but when you become addicted you lose control, other things in your life become less of a priority, you begin ignoring other things that used to be important to get your fix, and in extreme cases, much worse could happen... That's why I feel bad for them.

Kradie, after our conversation the other day i'm a little disappointed you jumped the gun here lol, but it's ok because your heart is in the right place :)

Kradie:

--- Quote from: TheKomodo on October 05, 2017, 12:22 PM ---I don't feel bad for what other people choose to do with their lives, I said I feel bad for anyone addicted to those games.

It's ok to enjoy something, but when you become addicted you lose control, other things in your life become less of a priority, you begin ignoring other things that used to be important to get your fix, and in extreme cases, much worse could happen... That's why I feel bad for them.

Kradie, after our conversation the other day i'm a little disappointed you jumped the gun here lol, but it's ok because your heart is in the right place :)

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What if they aren't addicted? Maybe there are actual people that do enjoy Worms, Counter Strike, Dota, and so on. Gaming isn't what it used to be, it is more widely accepted, and even considered as a real sport.
So if you see some people gaming intensely inside, it can be the same as some dudes playing football outside (NOT AMERICAN FOOTBALL).

No need to be disappointed lad, I have no ill intent here, just trying to have a civil debate ;)

TheKomodo:

--- Quote from: Kradie on October 05, 2017, 12:29 PM ---What if they aren't addicted?

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Then they aren't addicted...?

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