wtf, the did cheap move, 1 of them did "LONG" girder,
the gird was protectin his mate of dibz's zookas and shots from smok.. and then they left it sayin it's not not a cow..
and u call it CKC? cmon, that was JEDI's move a lot -.-
ye , that grider blocked my aim to wreckz (3s lg) i could hit him easely.. 2nd. thing .. in bng should be big grider not to be allowed. coz cmon , who need big gridders? i'm pretty sure this game would be end in other way. coz of my hit and then pushes .. but whatever, as crash said, ckc didnt wanted to destroy it .. so we destroed it.. normaly it wound be our job. so we wasted some turns.. and dont tell me pls .. they still would have sure win if they didnt place the grider this way..
Cheap, but not illegal. If they bounced off the grider its within bng rules. You destoried it. You still could of won game but didnt.
Funny how the the people who complain about "lame" bng are doing it themsleves!
Lol well i've already openly admitted if someone plays cheap against me, I will against them, anyway it wasn't me lol, and avirex never complained about cheap play...
I do agree though, it's fckn lame lol
well komo .. i think this grider was against the rules and not just lame
ckicken what should i do?? wasting 20 turns for trieng hit him? cmon
It wasn't against rules, sorry am0kz, but rules are rules as long as you obey them, it's supposedly ok, don't worry, i've lost alot of games cuzza crap like this too, isn't the 1st, and probably won't be the last.
i still think this grider was used to hide him a bit. and i rly dont like to accept it. well.. if cheapness ftw so bng should be removed from tus -.- it isnt rly skill anymore -.- a2b rules ftw ^^ should be the most of the rules be in tus too
TUS BnG is war!
war of lameness and cheapness
I think girders simply shouldn't exist in BnG. Because ANY girder you place will at least partially block some shot for the opponent, so there's always an ambiguous rule about how much you can enable your shot / disable your opponent's shot. Not only that, you'd have to have some dumb rule about only being able to use a girder when you have no other grenade shot available.
In this case there wasn't any reason to use a big girder over a small one, but there was no significant shot blocking going on, the worm was still quite open. The gap that was blocked really wasn't an optimal place for a shot, and I don't think I'd even consider this cheap since there's no reason I would be aiming at that gap.
But additionally BnG needs to take steps to start disregarding 'cheapness', because although the concept helps maintain a higher skill standard, it can only work in a league like a2b, it should be utterly disregarded otherwise.
i cant believe u complained this.. lol, i thought you did all your complaining in the game, and did not have any more energy to come here and complain more :)
this is just funny... u guys not only accused him of setting the girder as a block which it wasnt.. but u accused me of telling him to do it? lmfao... i dont know exactly why shy did a big girder.. i just dont think he was really thinkin about it either way... small gird would have done just fine, but dont matter there is no rule against it either way...
call the WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHmbulance!! somone got owned!! haehhaehahehae
Thats the reason why I started a2b in the 1st place, because leagues just don't cut it for BnG like a2b does, leagues will ALWAYS allow easier gameplay which is for what is in my opinion less skilled players, and newer players to the game, which is all good and fair, but for the higher skilled players, it's kinda not, which is why a2b prevails, period.
liks dibz said in the game.. bng has 2 many rules as it is... ur stupid a2b thing prolly just inforces them even more!!
therefor im glad im a lesser skilled player, infact i wish doh never even picked the scheme.. that game gave me +1 experience.. my brain is rotting
Quote from: avirex on July 18, 2010, 01:14 PM
liks dibz said in the game.. bng has 2 many rules as it is... ur stupid a2b thing prolly just inforces them even more!!
therefor im glad im a lesser skilled player, infact i wish doh never even picked the scheme.. that game gave me +1 experience.. my brain is rotting
Reason that U don't like BnG is not cause there's "too many" rules, it's cause U are not skilled enough (as U said) to play it in a proper way and enjoy it.. or simply U just don't like the scheme.. whatever...
Call it anything but "a2b thing" is not stupid.
No one ever had a single complain or even mention any rules in a2b. It's the best one-scheme league ever. ;)
- Remove girders, torch and firepunch at all.
- Put In inf. Teleports.
- No Rules except some few's.
ramone, i dont feel as if we played in an inproper way... thats why bng is gay.. no matter what people will complain... it gets boring.
Quote from: avirex on July 18, 2010, 01:14 PM
liks dibz said in the game.. bng has 2 many rules as it is... ur stupid a2b thing prolly just inforces them even more!!
therefor im glad im a lesser skilled player, infact i wish doh never even picked the scheme.. that game gave me +1 experience.. my brain is rotting
Coming from a guy who is trying to get the main roper scheme changed? That's a pretty stupid post, you are trying to change a scheme which you LOVE playing to try and make it better for the community of players who also enjoy it which is a good thing, alot of players do not like ropers, yet they don't go around calling it stupid.
I have spent FKN YEARS trying to make BnG a better game for those who enjoy it like I do and i've finally succedeed, BnG is making a comeback, especially with all the players who are in a2b, it's obviously never going to be as popular as Shopper or Elite, simply because it's too hard for most people to actually get as good as me which is why alot of people find it boring, if they were all as good as anyone in b2b then it would be a different story.
Seriously Jeff, I wouldn't care what any other idiot says and I don't even care about the fact you don't like BnG, that's cool everyone has their own choice, but don't call a2b stupid man, we've all worked hard on it, i've put alot of time into it and so have others, and I am VERY proud of it.
Oh and a2b has 1 girder in it, just incase the rare time you run out of tele's, however, it's extremly easy to blow this up in 1 shot.
everything is too relative, and imo, only jesus can save you guys, so stop for 5 minutes and think about it please, peace lol
so far, u say how me and shy was lame, and we r lesser skilled players this that and the other. im not offended, but u get offended when i say stupid a2b? lol? get ur head out of ur ass, or at least put a condom on it :P
Quote from: nino on July 18, 2010, 03:26 PM
everything is too relative, and imo, only jesus can save you guys, so stop for 5 minutes and think about it please, peace lol
word. <4
lmfao
avi ruls XDD!!!!
Quote from: nino on July 18, 2010, 03:26 PM
everything is too relative, and imo, only jesus can save you guys, so stop for 5 minutes and think about it please, peace lol
this one also rox XDDD
Quote from: avirex on July 18, 2010, 03:31 PM
so far, u say how me and shy was lame, and we r lesser skilled players this that and the other. im not offended, but u get offended when i say stupid a2b? lol? get ur head out of ur ass, or at least put a condom on it :P
Ok for starters, it was lame, and you know it, you ARE lesser skilled players at BnG even though I didn't direct that at either you or ShyGuy but you seem to enjoy assuming this so whatever, just lesser skilled players in general struggle to play with a2b rules, you and Shy are alot better than me at, elite, t17, ttrr, shopper, hysteria etc, do you see me complaining? There's nothing wrong with being bad at 1 scheme...
If you read again what I said:
Thats the reason why I started a2b in the 1st place, because leagues just don't cut it for BnG like a2b does, leagues will ALWAYS allow easier gameplay which is for what is in my opinion less skilled players, and newer players to the game, which is all good and fair, but for the higher skilled players, it's kinda not, which is why a2b prevails, period.
Where in this post do you see Avirex or ShyGuy mentioned? Where, Seriously where the hell do you see your names? Cuz I don't, and I wrote the damn thing so I should know...
EVERY good BnG'r knows that leagues allow rules for less skilled BnG'rs, end of story.
I didn't call your w2rope idea stupid, and yeah i'm a bit offended about you calling a2b stupid because of how well me and you know each other and how long we have been playing together we've got alot of history and I thought to expect better from you...
I never once said you and Shy were lame, if I did think that I wouldn't be in CKC...
This was not done on purpose... I use big girders like that whenever I can as a habit in 1v1's... I was not even looking at avi's hide... and besides, I would hardly call that covering him, it was way off to the side. DoH players destroyed the girder naturally, and as far as I'm concerned, it didn't block any potential hits... it didn't affect the game AT ALL. Avi was still wide open... grasping at straws you guys are.
Komo, we did a variety of shots that game; more than just 3 and 4 sec nades... so I don't know what you are expecting from us honestly... We didn't abuse that the league's "allow rules for less skilled BnG'rs" element. The girder wasn't meant for any diabolical purpose. IF it was a cow, then it was an accident, but as I explained, it didn't change the outcome of anything
Actually I don't see how the girder blocked any shot directed at avi. IMO it did not affect the game at all, except for Crashs flaming.
I haven't seen the game because I'm too lazy to watch bng, but if someone put girder to bounce nades, and protect his friend by the way, it's just tactical movie, it's allowed and help to win, same telecows in hysteria imo.
komo, i dont feel like arguing with you. ur right, im sorry for calling ur a2b stupid.. i think its very smart.
sry but we picked bng and we haven't build any lame girders
Quote from: ShyGuy on July 18, 2010, 05:07 PMKomo, we did a variety of shots that game; more than just 3 and 4 sec nades... so I don't know what you are expecting from us honestly... We didn't abuse that the league's "allow rules for less skilled BnG'rs" element. The girder wasn't meant for any diabolical purpose. IF it was a cow, then it was an accident, but as I explained, it didn't change the outcome of anything
Ok, read my words...
I am not calling YOU or Avirex lame, you know for a fact I know that you guys can BnG properly, when I was talking about lesser skilled players I was talking about the people who try and break the rules most of the time, the people who throw continous 4s rolling grenades, the ONLY thing that was close to lame was the girder, not you guys in general...
"Ok for starters, it was lame, and you know it, you ARE lesser skilled players at BnG"
"There's nothing wrong with being bad at 1 scheme..."
I got confused by these... it's all good though :p
avi, just bring back worms2 bng like you're doing worms2 rope
no rules, cups map, multiple worms and random placement ::)
(http://www.wmdb.org/images/maps/medium/6377.jpg)
r ladder ne1?!
Hey franz, that actually looks pretty cool, thanks, Im gonna try that :D
And Shy,
"Ok for starters, it was lame, and you know it, you ARE lesser skilled players at BnG"
"There's nothing wrong with being bad at 1 scheme..."
I got confused by these... it's all good though :p
^^
The rest of that sentence reads:
Ok for starters, it was lame, and you know it, you ARE lesser skilled players at BnG even though I didn't direct that at either you or ShyGuy but you seem to enjoy assuming this so whatever.
I only said it because Avi assumed it lol.
But anyway, everything's cool, so let's all continue winning clannners :D
Quote from: franz on July 19, 2010, 02:05 AM
avi, just bring back worms2 bng like you're doing worms2 rope
no rules, cups map, multiple worms and random placement ::)
Heh, avi don't give a fcuk about bng, why would he wanna do that?
I don't play league but I guess that community would be happier with NrBnG as a league scheme, not the w2 but the plain NrBnG.. so all ya complaints and endless discussions about bng finally stops... dunno, U league players decide that, this is just objective suggestion..
Btw, I've played w2 bng the other day with shag and it was fun to me. I guess it was fun cause it was smth different from what I'm used to, but I wouldn't change it with "regular" bng ever.. I think that I could not get used to straight zooks.. Some schemes should stay skill wise..
I mean, for example w2 roper is pure skill based scheme, your roping MUST be better than the opponents if U wanna win it, and imo it should be the same way (MUST) for bng too..
In w2 bng someone who is playing worms for 3rd time in his life could just shoot straight zooks all the time (digging and destroying map) and even win against average player that way.. and all bng skills (of that average player) just goes to waste... There's schemes where it's reasonable and ok to do it (forts, hysteria..) but BnG should be about smth else, imo.
So, I think that w2 bng should/could exist as another scheme, but shouldn't/couldn't replace the existing BnG scheme..
Btw, as I know there are few rules in w2 bng too:
- 1 worm per cup (which means no random placement at start)
- No telecows/telecides
and U play it with 5 worms, 100 hp each..
For sure it's fun, give it a try!
well in worms 2 it was random placement at start... and even tho they said it was random placment.. it really wasnt.. being they played on the SAME EXACT map (sometimes 1 other) the possibilities of placement dried out... im trying to think how to best explain it....
even tho each worm would be randomly placed on a diff cup... the computers random placment would always place the worm on the bottom left of the zigzag cup, the top right up the big swoop cup, the middle of the tiny swoosh cup, etc... so after a while people would learn exactly where to shoot from/and too, and where to hide to make one shot kills, and stay the safest... lol, i really did not understand the scheme in w2, it was so freakin boring
but, i may be wrong dont quote me on all i just said, cuz im not 100% sure.. w2 started out with everyone together, but then it split into 3 communities, u had your ropers in "cases r" room... u had you bng'rs in "cases bng" (i think they called it) room.. and your newbs in "COME PLAY!!! I KILLL!!! PROS ONLY!!!" room hahehahhaehah (u were able to maake ur own chat room names)
i remember when the servers went down, all the rooms would disapear.. so you would wait to get back, and it was almost a race to see who would make the room first so u could make it suttin liek "CKC's CASES R" just to advartise ur clan a bit hahahha.. fun times
so as i was saying, the ropers and the bngers were split up dramaticly... i mean, there was bngers that played w2 just as long as i have, and i prolly never met them :)
anyways, that scheme maybe is a fun change, but i dont think its any kinda of solution to w:a bng problems, or even scheme worthy.... ur right ramon, bng should be about skill ( i think all games should be about skill) and thank u for noticing w2rope is 100% about skill!! +1 appluad
and btw franz... where did u find that pic? that is the EXACT map they used to play on... there was 1 more map if i remember, but that was the most popular.. lmfao some guy made a couple swoosh's zigs, and zags and they never played another map since ;P
Quote from: avirex on July 19, 2010, 03:07 PM
and btw franz... where did u find that pic? that is the EXACT map they used to play on... there was 1 more map if i remember, but that was the most popular.. lmfao some guy made a couple swoosh's zigs, and zags and they never played another map since ;P
http://www.wmdb.org/6377