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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: TheKomodo on January 06, 2011, 07:41 AM
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This isn't a topic for people to flame, it's a serious question.
Can we remove doH from the clan standings? There is no members in doH, doH members have moved on to other clans, the clan doesn't exist anymore, ps should be 3rd, TaG should be 4th and so on.
Does anyone agree with me? Please, seriously please do not start flaming the name of you know who...
If you want to keep the score of doH, can you at least find a way to do this, but class them as inactive or something so they don't hog that position?
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NO !!
Maybe ever will be reactivation :P
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Well like I said, make doH inactive so they don't have position especially when doH has 0 members...l
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lets remove f4st,gonzo,flori and the other guys, they are also inactive...
lets remove u from bng standings ur not playing tus classic anymore...
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hah Camper, i can't believe I applauded you! ;D
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Camperz has a point, really. It's overall statistics for a reason, it doesn't matter if a person or clan managed to get a good spot 2 years ago or yesterday, it's still their points and still their spot! Imagine if we removed all the inactive clans...
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wanting or not, was already a clan, we cant simply delete him, was a good clan and have a good history in tus.
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Camperz, funny, cuz, i've actually been playing TuS classic (just BnG) recently, so, take that smartass smirk off before I slap it off :P ;)
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Just checking, but you know you just confirmed the validity of Camperz' point, right? :)
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Just checking, but you know you just confirmed the validity of Camperz' point, right? :)
Considering BnG is a scheme for TuS Classic, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried ;)
But actually, I asked to be removed from TuS a while back, but you wouldn't allow it lol, after time I decided, i'll ask for TuS BnG only once every while.
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LIVE WITH IT.
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Lol Dev, you got torettes or something?
Ray, Camperz, I respectfully couldn't disagree with you more here.
You don't see any professional League where this happens, if a Football team or Basketball team or well, any team dies, they are removed when a fresh Season starts, isn't this the whole point of the "time machine" thing we have in the Standings pages? So we can view the past, if a clan has no members and they do not exist anymore they do not deserve this spot anymore, especially if most of the members have moved onto other clans, IF doH ever started again (fair play to them if they do, I wish they would) then I think the only member would be Zippo, and it's not like Zippo got all these points himself.
To keep all the points, yes I agree with, for me to suggest to delete the clan altogether is completely ignorant yes, I apologise, however, I think for more accurate statistics and Standings we should make clans active/inactive, like, if they haven't played for an entire Season, they should be called "Inactive" and do not appear in present Standings until they become active again.
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so what about half-active clans?
They don't play, but they have still got some players, so they always can!
It's worms league, not football, it should stay like it is. It's part of history... but... if it's history maybe it really should get separate table..? I have no idea XD
but check my first arg, what to do in this kind of situation?
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I already answered that though Maciej lol, there ain't such thing as "half-active" lol, you either play or you don't, I think.
Well, if this is the case, why don't we look up all the old leagues and all the old statistics of every individual player in the history of WA and merge it with this? (sarcastic)
I just think it is wrong, for doH to have #3 position, when the true #3 position is ps, because doH doesn't exist anymore...
Surely you must understand what I mean?
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something must be done cos komo is right but at the same way hes f@#!ing wrong i dunno why maybe cos others peoples are right too and from what i see maciej is trying to prove his point , and komo dunno for what reasson thinnks his point is right and btw just one can be right or even disagree with eachother, imo my opnion is diferent of them and i dunno how come this happens cos i just drink beer but someone stolen my whisky tonight! doH!!!
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To be honest, I don't think I am right or wrong, but I think it is common sense and logic, if a clan that is #3 has no members anymore, and they have not played for like 3 months or something, they should be removed from the Standings page, keep the points etc, keep their records and history, but why should a clan, that doesn't exist, be 3rd in the standings??
Same with f4st in the Singles, when was the last time he played, about half a year ago lol, f4st will probably come back and play some games someday, but until then, his position is a lie because he isn't active, but at least with singles, they will always exist, kind of.
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i know komo, btw u got some ice? mine finnished and i h8 whisky cowboy : s
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I do, I have ice maker on my fridge-freezer xD
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nvm, now i recognize iam drinking beer lol, but thanks for the help aeeeeee
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I am on Blue WKD now, I finished my Russian Standard xD
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I actually agree with Komo for once in my life
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Lol, what an honour !!! xDxD
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thats just a new era in WA.
B.A. and A.A
before agree and after agree xD f@#!ing beer.
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Yeah, Shy, you feeling alright, you pissed up mate? Haha, I just opened another bottle, let's raise a toast to avi, in hope his ass ain't toast xD
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lol @ avi, i bet he will be tlking about WA in jail.
"hey u no, iam here but iam a profissional player of a game and manage a community on internet called fos want to join up madafoka
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He's gonna drop the soap but rope to safety with the rope attached to it haha.
But yeah, i'd go insane without WA for 60 days...
I'd go insane without having my PC for 12 hours...
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just have inactive. If soemone doesnt make any games for 3 months they have an inactive rank. Then they arent displayed unless u look at something like overall or display all players etc? Soon as they play a game they go back to wherever they were and show up again
FB did this.
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I was thinking to take them off the overall standings though, they don't even exist so it's pretty unfair for the clans below who deserve to all climb up 1 place.
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The point is they did exist and they were pretty successful which is just undeniable. Chickens, or rather FBs idea is good though, add another column which says "active", "inactive" or "dead" maybe? And an option to hide inactive/dead clans. Sounds fair to me.
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CBS/CBC league (WWP) also set players/clans inactive after a while which made them disappear from the regular standings (for active players only), but you could switch between them or even mix, though not sure about the mixing.
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The point is they did exist and they were pretty successful which is just undeniable. Chickens, or rather FBs idea is good though, add another column which says "active", "inactive" or "dead" maybe? And an option to hide inactive/dead clans. Sounds fair to me.
What René says, add an option to show all clans/players or just the ones active (1, 2 or 3 months last game played; whatever).
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fB STUFF SOUNDS JUST NICE, COMEBACK TO WA TOM WTF.
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I see no reason to remove DoH from the standings, since it doesn't influence the actual standings for playoffs.
It just displays the rating. If you want a non-wormy source of this, I refer you to FIDE (international chess federation), which continues to display someone's rating till they've been inactive for a while (a year, I think)
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I do agree for their history to be kept, if you got rid of them completely, every other clans rank would change, marking them inactive sounds wrong, because they are not inactive, they cease to exist, the clan has no members, R.I.P doH lol.
Why couldn't we make seperate Standings page for ex-clans or something?
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Well, I can't speak for MI, of course, but this seems completely unnecessary to me. MI's always planning on improving TUS and I think it would be much better to spend time on that than to spend time on separate standings without DoH while we all know DoH is DOA.
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Right there were some alias clan and stuff before did u removed them from the list? When the clan dies should be erased coz has no sense to be on standings imo it's dead nobody plays on them they dont need the points if they're not planning to get active again.
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I totally agree with Devilage, but if you completely removed them, every other clan would lose/gain points from playing doH, which is completely unfair.
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Actually I was thinking almost on he same as fb. There could be some menus, like : active clans rating, inactive clans rating, overall rating (without inactive clans), and overall rating (with inactive clany). Same with players, I guess.
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stupid idea...
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Well if it's that stupid, restart doH again...
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no...
i dont want :P
go to hell and stop to make stupid threads like that :P
u make that and the other about play in other clan in TEL.
soo stupid ideas.
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lmfao zippo , u already are a monster xDDDDD
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If you don't want to then quit moaning about it, alot of people agree if a clan doesn't even exist anymore it should not be in a position in the official standings.
It's a stupid idea to kill doH and fill Crash head with poisen because you lost PO to CF, Crash was a great guy when he was with me and abnaxus in sw, then you screwed him.
Oh, and what a surprise, Crash has a new clan, and to me, Crash is a nice guy to play with and against again, good for him :)
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ye crash is a nice guy now...so ye who got out with pig..eat trash...
and komo give up man, his opnion doesnot matter at all, this mofo doesnot have moral even to his dog.
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Oh well, as Komo said, no flamewars please =) What about waiting for MonkeyIsland's answer, or either any suggestion? =)
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We already have the clan standing which doesn't show inactive/dead clans, and that's seasonal points of clans sorted by overall standings.
Stop this flamewar now or I'll stop you. I don't care who started it.
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well i dont know if u know but we pwn CF only with 2 mermbers 3-1 ;P
with ME zip doing 36 in rr at ncmap ;P in playoffs ...
2 players pwning 1 clan with 5 mermbers...like us did the same vs cfc rofl..
doh = the best clan ever :P
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Hi Zippo.
(http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/uh43048,1249593175,who%20cares.jpg)
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Stop this flamewar now or I'll stop you. I don't care who started it.
well i dont know if u know but we pwn CF only with 2 mermbers 3-1 ;P
with ME zip doing 36 in rr at ncmap ;P in playoffs ...
2 players pwning 1 clan with 5 mermbers...like us did the same vs cfc rofl..
doh = the best clan ever :P
Can't you read?
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We already have the clan standing which doesn't show inactive/dead clans, and that's seasonal points of clans sorted by overall standings.
I don't get what you mean by this cuz when I check the Overall Standings - doH are in 3rd...
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I don't get what you mean by this cuz when I check the Overall Standings - doH are in 3rd...
He didn't mean overall standings but seasonal standings. If you click that and sort it by overall points it will only show clans which played at least 1 game that season.
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doh = the best clan ever :P
so why have you left it? After your leaving clan crashed
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I don't get what you mean by this cuz when I check the Overall Standings - doH are in 3rd...
He didn't mean overall standings but seasonal standings. If you click that and sort it by overall points it will only show clans which played at least 1 game that season.
Isn't that a bit too much for a simple bit of knowledge people seek?
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Hi Zippo.
(http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/uh43048,1249593175,who%20cares.jpg)
I'm Arnold's fan xd
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Hi Zippo.
(http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/uh43048,1249593175,who%20cares.jpg)
I'm Arnold's fan xd
of course, u have the same age as him
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this mofo doesnot have moral even to his dog.
roflmfao!!! Camelo cant disagree
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An inactive clan can be the one which hasn't played any game in the current season or lets say for a period of time. The current season standings shows clans which have played at least one game and if you sort that overall standings, then it will be an overall standings table with "active" clans.
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Did not noticed yet, MonkeyIsland, I just had that idea lol. Anyway thanks ;)
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To be honest MI, shouldn't it be more simple than having to click all these options to show things a certain way, how many people actually knew about that?
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this is such a small thing.. why put so much attention to something that doesn't really matter? who even looks at overall standings anyway? for those who do and are bothered by seeing DoH, just do the method mentioned above
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That isn't the point franz, it's the principal, if this league wants to have fake and incorrect standings, fair enough.
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That isn't the point franz, it's the principal, if this league wants to have fake and incorrect standings, fair enough.
Its not fake and incorrect tho. DoH earnt those points fair and square.
Look at football and take a club like Wimbledon F.C.. We won't take them off the FA cup when the beat liverpool just because they died.
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I know they earned those points lol, I wouldn't say ALL the points fair and square though ;)
I wish doH would start again, but they won't lol.
Let me try this another way, rename "overall standings" because it is falsely labelled then.
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not trying to sound harsh.. but no one cares. it's just you that seems bothered by seeing DoH.. and maybe Shyguy. even still, the few who honestly have a problem with this, just do what MI said to do.. it's not a big deal :-X
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I would have never even noticed this if this thread wasn't made. I'm just agreeing with Komo's logic. I don't care at all, though
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I don't really care either, cuz cFc is above doH xD lol
I'm just saying it just doesn't look right.
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I'm with franz.
It doesnt really matter. But never ever delete doH from rankings. That clan is just a piece of tus-history. Not a nice one, but still it is.
But at least Komo giving MI some more (senseless) work. :D
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Cmon SPW, I wouldn't say it's senseless, some people have agreed what I say is logical.
I don't want doH removed, like you said, they were not the nicest clan, but still one of the best, and that should be respected and remembered, I never once said get rid of them completely, did I? I ain't THAT evil lol.
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Actually, you did.
Can we remove doH from the clan standings?
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Actually, you did.
Can we remove doH from the clan standings?
I also said this in the same post:
"If you want to keep the score of doH, can you at least find a way to do this, but class them as inactive or something so they don't hog that position?"
Thanks for noticing.