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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: Peja on May 05, 2015, 11:39 AM
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Both of you are bringing unnecessary drama into this topic. Should I meddle and make a move? Apparently someone always gotta put a stop otherwise you two go on forever.
i would go as far saying avirex and komo are the only ones not bringing unnecessary drama into this topic xD
They actually did a nice job to evaluate the situation, i like the debate and some personal teasing for the sake of the good old times makes it just more enjoyable. :D
tbh, i wish you would have the passion and time to go that deep into league related problems, basicly those guys are doing the job you are supposed to do.
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Thx peja, my thoughts exactly... sure me and komo like to take jabs at each other, but wtf, we are making valid points in the mean time..
And maybe you should read those valid points, considering in my complaint last week you thought it was a loss, when really adraw (how the f@#! does a complaint mod miss the actual outcome of the game?) And this complaint you don't take the time to do your own investigation, or discuss important things... so yeah, at least read me and komos valid points. Instead of threaten to mute or valid points you Jack ass
MI, I know your busy, and I respect that, but we need new mods in the community, I would actually take the roll, even though I know you would never choose me, based on your feelings of me, but just putting an offer out there..
I also thing you need to step down from your position, maybe you're spreading yourself too thin? Your a coder, a boss, a player, a gangster, and achiever.
You are not a complaint mod, I'll be starting a vote to remove you from tus complaint mod, you will respect what the people of tus want, right? We are a voting community.
Edit: tbh. Me and komo should both be complaint mods, we would actually do a good job... but again, your personal feeling for us won't allow that... I just think me and Komo could really get to the root of the rules, and when a tricky complaint situation comes up, we could then update the rules so they don't happen I'm future, or make new rules (after discussion with everyone) or any other task regarding complaint and rules... me and komo would actually discuss, and come to definitive solutions, and in situations we can't agree, a 3rd party mod can step in... but if the situation is something we can't agree upon, me and komo will be smart enough to realize that means one thing.. the rules need to be more clear.. instead, you guys just move into the next complaint .. it's asinine.
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Lmao yes, Komo and avi would be the greatest mods of all time. When both agree you know it's the correct decision. Because whenever they see a possible flaw in the other they start exploiting it and talking over it until the end of time. We just would need to get used to complaints that take 2 weeks before they settle their argument in 1 case. :D
It even should be a complaint rule, avi and Komo both must agree on it. No failure decisions possible. ;D
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I'd be happy to be a MOD, i've offered before, no time for a big post, due back to work in like 4 minutes ago...
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Yea make avirex and Komo complaint mods! They will be more useful than having barman and franz as mods, lol.
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@peja,
YOU are enjoying this. For obvious reasons. Doesn't look that from the outside.
@avirex,
My feelings on you, is based on your behavior in this community. I haven't met you in real life and the only thing I know about you is based on your history on TUS. My feelings are shaped directly as you behaved and no other event meddled in to make it worse or untrue. So my "feelings" are completely valid to make a judgement call.
@avirex & komo,
To be a league moderator at TUS, (and I want to stress TUS because that's my territory) you need to have some qualities which you both don't.
One of them is that you need to be stable and calm. Both of you have raged on this very forum on many occasions. In fact so much that I can't count. I do accept your rage and you being yourselves as a member, but that's not acceptable to me for a moderator.
In this topic, I think Anubis makes a better mod.
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MI, I can't speak for avi, but I can speak for myself, when it comes to dealing with official stuff, I am very calm and very reliable and I am sure many people will back me up on that.
Not trying to brag, but I am perfect for this, I visit TuS several times every single day, on most days I check at least once every hour, I know the game inside out, and I am a very reliable and trustworthy person, when I have responsibilities, there is no rage.
It's your choice, I don't mind either way but you would be making a great choice by making me a MOD.
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Barman is/was a mod ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Avi/Komo are much more mature than the irascible and susceptible Barman
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Sorry Komo but I would have to disagree, that whole thing with Marian in the DST was pretty embarrassing really. You should be able to ignore players like that, not get involved in flame wars with them. Plus you seem to be involved in arguments on here all the time.
Yesterday you were saying you were sick of WA, and now you want to be mod? Why?
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Sorry Komo but I would have to disagree, that whole thing with Marian in the DST was pretty embarrassing really. You should be able to ignore players like that, not get involved in flame wars with them. Plus you seem to be involved in arguments on here all the time.
Yesterday you were saying you were sick of WA, and now you want to be mod? Why?
+1 for that,pal
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Ok 1st of all, the arguement with Marian was in a game, not on a public forum, when talking to/about Marian on forums I have kept the language clean, and my temper cool, the recent plop war cup for example.
The arguements i've had/have on here are pretty much just with avirex, I can control that if I have responsibilities.
I said I cba with WA atm, I have other interests right now and don't feel the urge to play WA, I never said I was sick of it, it's just boring right now without lalo/daina around and not feeling Darts right now, thanks to that person you just mentioned.
I am perfectly capable of being a MOD, not only am I capable but i'd go as far to say I am probably the best choice there is, experience, activity, fairness in handling complaints and problems.
Why do I want to be a MOD? Right now complaints are being handled badly and people are complaining about the way complaints are handled, I can help that situation, I know I am the right person to do it.
Besides, why not let me try? It's just as easy to remove me as a MOD as it is to make me one, besides it isn't a life goal or anything to be a MOD, I am just offering my valuable services ;)
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I think both, avi and komo have potential to be MOD for sure, they are playing and around this community for several years.
And even both acting sometimes as putos and stuff, acting as a couple with the relationship f@#!ed, acting as chickens trying to show who got bigger tail...
They both got common sense to me great MODs.
So ye, AVI and Komo for MODs!
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I want nino as mod. Game is void, PUTO!
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being best drama queens doesn't mean they would not be great MODs.
They know very well this league and I am sure they will not bring shit "at work". They perfectly know how to separate certain things from others. And for sure they are perseverant, both of them.
give them a try.
They are part of the show here, like me and other putos. But at work I am a solid base, serious and efficient, like I am with a bottle of whisky and a copita nosing xD
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Ok well Komo messaged me to address my concerns, for what it's worth I do think he would do the job well, clearly he knows a lot about the game and a couple more mods would be a good idea anyway, since MI has so much work to do on his own.
The situation with Marian was unfortunate, but there are always going to be people that rub you the wrong way I guess. Hopefully you two will be able to settle your differences soon.
Komo has my support, and avi too.
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Thanks spleen, I value your opinion, I just had the idea you thought i'd be a bad MOD lol.
All in all, myself and avirex have both played this game since 1999, sure we argue but we do respect each other, we wouldn't have created a community together if we really didn't like each other, not only do we have the experience but we get along very well with pretty much all of the community, people have respect and trust for us, I just think we should put that experience and passion to good use.
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Maybe I could be mod? :)
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Maybe I could be mod? :)
Now that's a great idea :D
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Make me MOD for umm.... Lags? xD
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Exactly what Komo, and ANO said, and i think peja maybe mentioned too??
the way i act in forums, (like you said MI) is just me, being me.
for instance, i called you a jackass, thats just how i talk, and thats me.. that does not mean i dont have a great deal of respect for you, and what you have done for w:a (and i have made many posts expressing my appreciation towards your efforts) but thats does not mean i will "kiss your ass" or treat you with more respect then the next puto, at the end of the day, we are all men.. with the exception of dainub, and a couple other females who may or may not shave the bush.
but regardless of getting payed or not (which i know im not, just making a pont) i would consider this my job, and i would take pride in it, and do the best job that i can... and i would know when im making "MOD posts" i will have to approach them with a different style of communication, i would do my best to be professional and polite.. so, like komo and ANO said, you would get a professional work environment avirex, not the beat around the forums having fun avirex...
I have more experience on this game then most people and more years or worms play then anyone, and komo as well... and like i said before, if me and komo can not come to an agreement, that means there is a problem... and we wont just flip a coin to decide, and move on to the next complaint, we will discuss it, get other members of the community involved (who choose to get involved) and decide on a new rule... the rules should be clear enough that there will be no argument, or debate... and right now they are not!! but by the time me and komo are done here, anyone would be capable of being a mod, even a member who has weak English skills can be a mod, because each situation will be noted in the rules, it will be a simple copy and paste of the rule, and decisions made "Void game, see rules section E: paragraph 2 www.heresthelinnk.com"
as i said, i knew your views of me would get in the way of the best decision for TUS (in my opinion) just like in my last complaint you made comments like...
"Also to other contributors, I'm sure no matter how detailed I make the TUS rulebook, there are certain people who will still find their way to open up another complaint."
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" "Now"? I've been involved with loads of complaints for 6 years. There's nothing new regarding cows. Just some drama once in a while and most of the time with the same people involved."
i know those comments were directed to me, and in my opinion very much unjustified, i have been a member at TUS for several years now, and ill bet i have opened less then 10 complaints, and i bet i won at least 75% of the complaints... meaning i dont open complaints for no reason!
i do my best to play fair, and play by the rules, and im generally always a good sport, no matter how bitter i am from the loss, i always tell my opponent gg, and well played... ALWAYS.
so, you can have your opinions of me just because i bring a little fun to the forums that you may not agree with, such as banter with komo or creating FoS (which we catch you browsing our private forums quite often) but that does not mean i will be a bad complaint mod....
sorry this was such a long post, but this is my presidential election speech :D
VOTE FOR AVI! <3
edit: one more note, the recent complaint with stylez, and vesuvio which sparked this entire discussion proves i can be a good mod... stylez is one of my best wormy buddies outside of my clan mates, and vesuvio has been nothing but an annoying complaint whore lately, but i still set my personal feelings aside, and believe it was not a dark side (after vesuvio showed that replay) as much as i would rather side with stylez!! i didn't.... VOTE FOR AVI!
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Hmm, how to start off lol.
I don't see anyone from the current active people being a decent mod for tus xD
I don't think being old in this game is a requeriment either.
This game needs a fresh mod that can act unbiased towards any case.
Well, this moderator I'm talking about would get some help from DarkOne, MonkeyIsland, and some of the inactive mods, privately, for the most controversial complaints and dramas... till they get enough experience to handle every situation by themselves.
I'd suggest Senator and spleen17 for moderator of this new TUS era.
Sorry if you guys don't want me to nominate you for this job, but you both are good examples for what I think a good mod would be convinient for the league.
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One of them is that you need to be stable and calm. Both of you have raged on this very forum on many occasions. In fact so much that I can't count. I do accept your rage and you being yourselves as a member, but that's not acceptable to me for a moderator.
"The one without sin among you should be the first to throw a stone at her."
Ropa, if you want to sit around and give out brilliant ideas and expect people to listen and take notes, you gotta earn that position. So far, after being a W:A fossil, you've earned being one of *THE* most useless wormers around. Not only you haven't done any progress, you have had a negative effect on this community.
A decade ago, you were creating multiple accounts, posting nonsense on a newbie site to mock, remember? That was the reason you were banned. The level of illusion you are in, just baffles me. I have no words, seriously how deep one's head can go into his own ass?
we all feel offended at some point. i am pretty sure both of them will be able to controll themselves once its their job to act like that. i just know it would really help to have moderators who are:
-active on forums
-active on wormnet
- understand the mechanics of this game in all common schemes
- willing to improve rules so there are less complaints
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Back in AL when I handled complaints it was pretty easy work. We had excellent rules that tried to leave zero interpretation, in the rare case a complaint was not covered by the rules it was simply added after the complaint for further reference and making the work pretty simple. A complaint mod does not need a lot of skills, seriously. Also being calm or stable is not required because if you misbehave you will just get kicked out of the position, it's a voluntarily job that is not paid and brings no benefit for the involved person. It's basically something a robot could do if they were advanced enough to compare the in-game situation with the league rules. In case that an objectively view of a mod (favorably 2) is necessary you just create a new rule afterwards that covers the solution when both mods agree on the solution.
In a nutshell this is the requirement for a complaint mod:
Able to read and understand the rules
Execute minor administrative things regarding the league such as changing/deleting schemes/players/replays
Check and lock threads on a daily basis
Note: This is just the position as a complaint mod, being a forum mod actually requires a bit more. ;) Complaint mods however, leave little room for bias, and if a mod is biased it's instantly seen because, well, he has to bypass rules and replays which are publicly available. Again, the major part of a complaint mod are simple tasks that leave little to no subjectively input.
If there's really someone thinking "omg we have no decent mods available", all I can really think of is Picard.
(http://alexandrahighcrest.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/JLP.png)
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It is much more hard to be a MOD in real life!!! see your slaves doing shits and not be allowed to kill them cos f@#!ing human rights!!!!
JK :D :D :D :D :D :D
I <3 my slaves
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Hmm, how to start off lol.
I don't see anyone from the current active people being a decent mod for tus xD
I don't think being old in this game is a requeriment either.
Maybe you cant see any people being a decent mod because your not active?? at all...
and to celarify things, i dont think its a requirement to have decade+ of experience in order to be a good mod, i was just simply stating my attributes, and some of the reasons why i would be a good mod... however, i do think a worm should have a bare minimum of 2 years experience in worms, and league play before he should be considered for the position.
Anubis post says it all, its easy to be a mod, if you have a proper rule book. I believe that by now, its common knowledge, that the rule book of TUS sucks!! it needs work, and it has needed work since the birth of TUS, but still nothing has been done.
I find it ironic that you can't think of any good mods rU, because i can think of several!! does not matter if the person is silly at times, or unpredictable, or even been known to rage from time to time, there is a job that needs to be done, and if someone offers their time to do it (and go above and beyond job description, by fixing the rules) why should MI object to that?? especially when i have seen majority of positive feedback from anyone who has posted here supporting those who offered (me and komo)
Like Anubis said, if a mod is being biased, it will be quickly noticed, and its not like if someone made a biased ruling, that it would be irreversible.. it can be changed back to the proper decision almost as easy as it would be to revoke that persons MOD privileges.
The facts are this... TUS needs new mods... Chicken, Barman, and Franz are not even active on forums, let alone the game, and MonkeyIsland and Darkone are spreading them selves too thin, and not doing a good job. I personally do not care if im chosen for mod or not, as anubis said, i gain nothing from it, i just know there needs to be new mods, regardless if its me, komo, or any other shmuck, i dont care. it just so happens that me and komo are the ones that are offering our time and assistants at the moment, seems foolish of MI to turn down the help based on his personal feelings of us.. isnt that being biased? :D
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based on your personal feelings of us.. isnt that being biased? :D
My personal feelings towards you both are pure luv, hahha :D
Yeh your theory makes sense but I still want fresh people to take charge on moderating the league. And I haven't seen you much active lately either.. Not sure if that would change if you manage to get mod rights.
Anyway gl avi xd
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Well, this moderator I'm talking about would get some help from DarkOne, MonkeyIsland, and some of the inactive mods, privately, for the most controversial complaints and dramas... till they get enough experience to handle every situation by themselves.
I'd suggest Senator and spleen17 for moderator of this new TUS era.
Sorry if you guys don't want me to nominate you for this job, but you both are good examples for what I think a good mod would be convinient for the league.
Thanks man :) I would do my best if asked but I am sure some people would prefer a more experienced wormer in the role. There are plenty of decent options around imo :)
It is up to MI really, if he thinks he can keep doing the job solo then no problem. If not then there are plenty of people around who would be able to help, even if just for quicker response time for some of the simpler complaints.
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me and komo are the ones that are offering our time and assistants at the moment
Ssshh, you'll give away our secret we hire people to post for us!
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based on your personal feelings of us.. isnt that being biased? :D
My personal feelings towards you both are pure luv, hahha :D
Yeh your theory makes sense but I still want fresh people to take charge on moderating the league. And I haven't seen you much active lately either.. Not sure if that would change if you manage to get mod rights.
Anyway gl avi xd
that part was actually directed to MI, but i seen you confusion, where you could have thought i meant it towards you... i have edited it so its more clear.
i dont think you dislike me rU, if you dont think im right for the roll, thats cool, thats your opinion, so far you and MI are the only ones that feel that way though.
as far as spleen being a MOD, i dont really know the guy, but he always seems cool, he mentions others may think a more experienced person should take roll? Im not sure how much experience he has, but i think a player should have at least 2 years experience with league, i think that's a fair amount of experience, of course that should not be some mandatory thing, maybe a player has only 1 year and 6 months experience, but he would be a perfect fit for the job, then f@#! it!! but just for basic guide lines in my opinion, 2 years experience seems fair.
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I would suggest the following:
Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kindly remove those who are inactive/contribute little)
Set up an initial announcement thread where people can post their interest in becoming a MOD.
MI does some light touch vetting to ensure that there aren't any silly requests.
Set up a poll for a week to allow the community got for the next MOD(S).
Highest number of votes = new MOD(S).
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I would suggest the following:
Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kindly remove those who are inactive/contribute little)
Set up an initial announcement thread where people can post their interest in becoming a MOD.
MI does some light touch vetting to ensure that there aren't any silly requests.
Set up a poll for a week to allow the community got for the next MOD(S).
Highest number of votes = new MOD(S).
Normally, if you go for something like this, it should be:
- Vote of MI and D1 (with some percentage)
- Vote of the community
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I would suggest the following:
Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kindly remove those who are inactive/contribute little)
Set up an initial announcement thread where people can post their interest in becoming a MOD.
MI does some light touch vetting to ensure that there aren't any silly requests.
Set up a poll for a week to allow the community got for the next MOD(S).
Highest number of votes = new MOD(S).
Normally, if you go for something like this, it should be:
- Vote of MI and D1 (with some percentage)
- Vote of the community
i think we have tried that in the past ryan, its been proven time and time again, polls are really not the best solution, you have people that dont care that vote (because its a simple click of a button) you have people that dont know whats best because they are not active (but vote anyway, because simple click) you have people that only vote based on popularity, disregarding if they are a suitable fit, and active (because this is worms ;p) you have people that think its a joke, and vote for Asbestos (because forum humor is epic) and the list goes on and on and on...
im not against a "vote" system, but i think its more fair when people back up their vote with some reasoning in a post... such as rU did.
as far as "Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kind remove those who are inactive/contribute little)"
that too has been proven not to work... MonkeyIsland does not know when enough is enough for his own good, all though his intentions are in the right place, he tries to do EVERYTHING, and its not working. I dont care how great one human possibly is... its not possible for one person to run a major CEO company, there is many many people beneath him that are helping keep that clock tick. The sooner everyone realizes that, the sooner TUS can be an *even* better place. and voting on every little thing that comes up is not my idea of people beneath monkeyisland keeping the clock tick ;p
-speaking of helping keep the clock tick, worms has a nice amount of coders, and web designers, MI should get some help from some of these guys in maintaining the site, and making small updates.. i know that this website is MI's "baby" he has raised it since birth, and for that reason maybe he would not want to... but at this point, we all know who daddy(MI) is, and we all appreciate the mature young man(TUS) he raised ;) but maybe now its time to get married, give your son another daddy to help out in this roll!! after all, gay marriages are becoming more and more accepted through out America, and i would assume the world!!
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Nino and me are best possible mods cause we both have slaves. That experience is just a big point. But we both fail cause of activity. Thats just that I had to say and there is no valid counter, putos! ;D :D
In this case, I would also give avirex and komo the chance. It cant be worse than barman and franz. If there are some hard cases, MI just having the last word.
MI, just give them a try. Im pretty sure it will be the right way. :)
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but maybe now its time to get married, give your son another daddy to help out in this roll!! after all, gay marriages are becoming more and more accepted through out America, and i would assume the world!!
Basically we have to vote Avirex or we are unpatriotic homophobes?
In that case I was the first one to vote for Avi.
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but maybe now its time to get married, give your son another daddy to help out in this roll!! after all, gay marriages are becoming more and more accepted through out America, and i would assume the world!!
Basically we have to vote Avirex or we are unpatriotic homophobes?
In that case I was the first one to vote for Avi.
lol you took my quote out of context, that particular statement was in regards to MI getting some help with website updates... the homepage has not been changed in over a month i believe, been looking at the same "worst shot ever" bit for quite a while now :D
but regardless, yes..
VOTE FOR AVI, OR YOUR AN UNPATRIOTIC HOMOPHOBE!
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I do not select mods based on their promises. I select them based on their history.
It is true that komo and avirex have lots of experiences but they don't have the right attitude. Komo gets emotional everytime someone disagrees with him and eventually insults them for not understanding his point of view. Avirex do not respect community rules and if there's chance to do something he likes, he happily breaks them. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
The only way to change this is for both of them to start act differently which takes time and more importantly, they aren't willing to.
@avirex,
Just a few facts. I'm not seeking your respect. You have called me names lots of times. I don't mind. Also I do not read FoS forums, not only "quite often" isn't true, but also I don't remember the last time I accidentally clicked on your forum. Lying like that is not helping your case either. I've already explained it to you why "my feelings" is completely valid.
@rU`,
spleen17 is new to the community but Senator is a good candidate.
@Peja,
Yes I do get offended time to time. What you (willingly?) missed is the ratio. I DO respond to people who crosses the line. You gotta compare the amount of their attempts to my responses to get your answer.
On the side note, you did that again. You delete some part of the story just to make it fit your point. I can find your posts to quote too you know? Remember you completely neglected the fact that asbest threatened our lives. Let me shake your memory:
... While Asbest who never harmed this league in Any way still is banned from playing.
@peja,
Asbest literally threatened our lives. He also aliased people and he DID created multiple accounts. Did you just simply forget or you chose to wipe it all just to make a point?
@Anubis,
It is not ONLY about what a moderator's job is. It is also about the image of the moderator and what he represents.
@Ryan,
Currently the league doesn't need a lot of moderators. Just one would be enough.
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It is true that komo and avirex have lots of experiences but they don't have the right attitude. Komo gets emotional everytime someone disagrees with him and eventually insults them for not understanding his point of view. Avirex do not respect community rules and if there's chance to do something he likes, he happily breaks them. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
The only way to change this is for both of them to start act differently which takes time and more importantly, they aren't willing to.
That just isn't true man, for starters using the word "emotional" is wrong, I get defensive because I am a person who strongly believes in his opinions, that's a good quality, not a bad one, and I don't insult people because they disagree with me, I insult avirex from time to time because well, he insults me, and I actually find insults funny, that's why I watch so much comedy like South Park, Family Guy, and comedians like Frankie Boyle, Bill Hicks etc.
Just because I swear or use an "insult" doesn't mean I am emotional or trying to make the other person feel bad, it's part of being Scottish, the only person who has actually made me angry in the past several years is Marian, I won't go into that though.
I argue because it's interesting, sometimes funny and you learn stuff, but I can stop that if it means TuS will have a very experienced and active MOD.
Telling us we aren't willing to act differenly isn't fair, you don't need to act differently to be a good MOD, you just need to keep the language clean, which is something we can both do easily, we won't change our personalities, but I could bet you a years wage I can stop swearing/arguing and be a perfect MOD for TuS ;)
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well MI it is up to you now.
You should give a try , You have nothing to lose than a lil run to bathroom, but why bathroom? That nino just says no sense shits!! no! ill explain
you know u got a fart on the door of ur ass but u dont feel sure if this will come with shit or just air? so mate, if u give a try there will come the air and u r free of this fart... if the shit comes..u just go to bathroom and clean urself, but you tryed thats the matter aeeeeee. :D :D :D
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Heh thx for the nomination but I'm not sure if I want to solve complaints on daily basis.. If u find more active candidate, choose him. Atm I set deadlines for playoffs so I also check if the games are played. Mod rights could be useful there coz then there would be less delay with moving players further in PO draw.
Many complaints are about wrong replay/scheme/player or double report. If you made it possible to delete/edit the game you reported within 30 minutes or so, there would be much less complaints ;)
p.s. leroy, I'm perhaps new guy in TUS but I've played in worms-league and cl2k before!
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@Anubis,
It is not ONLY about what a moderator's job is. It is also about the image of the moderator and what he represents.
Fair enough about the representation and image, I have had a similar discussion about this topic with HHC. But consider that both avi and Komo are not hated by everyone or even the majority of this community. People that are calm and "unemotional" are usually those that are less connected to the community. Back then when I was actually playing the game 24/7 I wasn't the angel I am nowadays on forums. I would get into flames as well, show my disagreements more vulgar. :D But I care less about W:A and that makes me calm, Komo and avi both still strongly care about W:A, their clan, and everything around W:A, they have a lot more reasons to be more emotional. You current mod roster are all inactive (I think?), or let's say they are both less inactive and involved as avi and Komo. I strongly believe you can't measure them to your roster when your roster is not as involved as them.
They offer free help. And you often gave everyone a 2nd chance, or even 3rd chance. Why do you struggle to give some people not even a 1st chance? With more responsibility people tend to grow up. Who knows what this opportunity can bring to them, maybe they even unite forever! :D
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MI, i would love to hear a description of what you think my image is... i just want to hear it from you, for the sake of a good laugh, because guess whats.. it will just be YOUR opinion, and as i said before, this is no surprise to me that you wont give me a chance, i knew from the start your personal views of me will limit your ability to make a good decision.
the reality of it is, i am very well liked in this community, if i wasn't, i would never have been able to form such a strong clan, and keep such influential members in the clan, i would never be able to form such a strong community, based around absolutely nothing (that we can disclose to the public) and i would not have been able to call you out on reading our forums, and watch you squirm like the little private forum rat that you are.
I am not the only private community/forum that has said they seen you in their forums... FoS has multiple screen shots of you in our private forum, wanna call me a liar again?? i dont remember the last time you "accidentally" clicked on our forums either MI, but that's why you will not be able to quote me saying it was recently. besides, we took all the juicy stuff to a more private forum outside of TUS anyway... so if you'd like to visit more frequently, we dont mind ;)
To be honest, i don't even want to be MOD anymore, if you feel that strongly against me MI, despite 90% of the people in this post saying we would make good mods, and telling you to give us a chance, then i don't want to be a MOD. so, im all set with the position, maybe you can give it Volrin, or TheHamster... yeah, they would make good MODs.. (get the joke? inactive players)
i want to be perfectly clear that i no longer want to be MOD, but just for the sake of argument.. your full of shit when you say " I've already explained it to you why "my feelings" is completely valid. "
nothing is completely valid, its your personal feelings about me, and how you view me... thats not a a valid reason my friend... but hey, your the boss... so rock out with your cock out, its your choice who the MOD will be... but regardless who you choose, you need help in this department.. sooner will be better then later, thanks
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I vote for vokking vok :D
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also, i would like to know wtf your talking about with this
"Avirex do not respect community rules and if there's chance to do something he likes, he happily breaks them. You can't have your cake and eat it too."
because i do not break rules in league games, and i believe i have only been banned from TUS once, because yes.. i broke a rule to do something i liked... but, barman was banned right along with me at the same time, along with another group of tus members... barman is still a mod... and what kind of image is it to lie to the community for over 8 years about your gender?? do you know how many times i asked franz if he shaved his vagina, before he finally came clean and told the community he is a man??? is that the kind of image you want as your mod?? god for bid if i swear!! "OMG"
haha.. whatever dude.. just say it, you dont like me, and ill move on.
i vote vok and senator too.. dont care, its not like its a difficult job, but the mods we have are not doing the necessary job at the moment, due to inactivity.
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vok and senetar!
Common if we want a finnish invasion let's at least make it tdc so we have infinite powa!
We already have D1 but it'd be easier if we got all the mod! :D
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I nominate Spadger for mod!
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I would still like to be MOD, but unfortunately MI cannot accept what's best for the community:
TUS has grown with ideas suggested by its members.
I actually hate this statement, even if every single person in the TuS community wants something, unless MI personally wants whatever that is, it won't happen.
I am beginning to think MI is full of lies, seriously disappointing...
Edit: I mean seriously MI, by making me a MOD, what have you got to lose?
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I would still like to be MOD, but unfortunately MI cannot accept what's best for the community:
There's confidence and then there's overconfidence, Komo :P
My experience with you is that you do look at problems regarding games pretty objectively, haven't met problems with your cups, other than problems with deadlines (not an issue with regular complaint solving, I realise).
And then there's the part where you can suddenly get bored and walk away - but then I'd be a colossal hypocite if I were to make that a deal breaker.
You did get into a lot of arguments, but let's not forget that in complaint threads, most of those started with people complaining about meddling by non-mods, so that also wouldn't be an issue.
All I can say is - be prepared to be called biased if MI changes his mind.
Just to clarify a misconception from this thread - I don't spread myself too thin. In fact, when I noticed that I was spreading myself too thin, I decided to stick to moderating cups, even if no announcement was made to that extent. I only occasionally handled compaints from the leagues.
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Yeah I admit to being a bit cocky, but I strongly believe I would be a best choice.
When you say "get bored and walk" away, could you please give me some examples and maybe I can explain myself because I don't think this relates to dealing with complaints/problems, I usually only get bored and quit things that I am only a player of, which isn't doing anything wrong really... The 1 exception I can think of is when you started "The stupid f**kin cup" before I wanted to start it, it was a bad idea to make that cup anyway...
I don't see why getting involved in some arguements is such a bad thing, I don't think anyone needs a degree from Cambridge and manners that would make the Queen envious...
I am active enough, smart enough, disciplined enough and friendly enough and respected enough to always make the right call.
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I would still like to be MOD, but unfortunately MI cannot accept what's best for the community:
There's confidence and then there's overconfidence, Komo :P
My experience with you is that you do look at problems regarding games pretty objectively, haven't met problems with your cups, other than problems with deadlines (not an issue with regular complaint solving, I realise).
And then there's the part where you can suddenly get bored and walk away - but then I'd be a colossal hypocite if I were to make that a deal breaker.
You did get into a lot of arguments, but let's not forget that in complaint threads, most of those started with people complaining about meddling by non-mods, so that also wouldn't be an issue.
All I can say is - be prepared to be called biased if MI changes his mind.
Just to clarify a misconception from this thread - I don't spread myself too thin. In fact, when I noticed that I was spreading myself too thin, I decided to stick to moderating cups, even if no announcement was made to that extent. I only occasionally handled compaints from the leagues.
thats exactly the current problem with TUS at the moment, someone with more objective views may not make the best of MODS.
but thats only because the rules are lacking in a big way, as Anubis said, in AL league (i think he said AL?) ANY BODY could have been a MOD, because the rules were stated in such a way that the answer to most complaints were a simple copy and paste away... in the result of a complaint being a bit more complicated, Komo would be smart enough to know the rules need a quick update, and after discussing with others the rule can then be brought to MI to make adequate changes.
DarkOne, i agree... you are not AS guilty of spreading yourself too thin, you have done so in the past, but according to you, you can realize that before things get out of control... MonkeyIsland clearly can not see when he is spreading himself too thin, and if he can, i guess he just does not wish to do anything about it.. he waits until people are like "wtf?" we all knew we needed a new mod like 8 months ago, we voted in barman (regardless of him breaking rules to fit what he liked **cough**) but barman is now inactive, along with the gender hopping mod, and DarkOne is managing cup mods he says.... its time we get a new MOD.
I am no longer interested in this roll.. i dont want to feel like im walking on egg shells with every decision i make, simply because MI will be looking for a reason to get rid of me, its not fair to me, or him. (it will only make him look worse that he has already made himself look here)
but komo is still interested in the roll of being MOD, and damn it, the man will do a good job!! and fix the rules!! The rules have been issue to complaint more commonly then any other feature in TUS, and since TUS birth *almost* nothing has been done to correct them.
i think MonkeyIsland has done a great job with most everything as TUS, and without him, theres a good chance a lot of us would not be here... but, the guy does not know when he needs help, and when to accept the help that is offered, its as if he wants to run every aspect of the league, with the help of his trusty side kick (darkone) and at the end of the movie, when the credits roll, he would be distraught if any other names were mentioned.
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Great thread. +1
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I don't see why getting involved in some arguements is such a bad thing, I don't think anyone needs a degree from Cambridge and manners that would make the Queen envious...
I am active enough, smart enough, disciplined enough and friendly enough and respected enough to always make the right call.
As long as you can remain unbiased, I see no issue with getting into arguments, as long as it doesn't happen too often. Hearing opposing views keeps people sane, as long as they're willing to listen to those opposing points.
That one cup was what I was thinking of, along with a darts cup that didn't have deadlines and took so long everybody lost interest. But again - that should not be a valid reason.
Avi, you do realise that MI has asked multiple people to help moderate, not just franz and barman - all of whom became inactive after a short while, myself sort of included. To say he doesn't know when to ask for help is selling him short, even if he perhaps does try to do too much himself ;)
If your reason for not wanting to moderate now (even if asked) is cause you feel like walking on eggshells, then perhaps you're not as cut out for moderating as you thought. You're either walking on eggshells or you moderate like TSR (or as most people call him, Kiros).
If it's about MI not taking your offer, well, fair enough :)
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the dwarf has never deserved that role
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I know the Darts cup you are talking about Darkone, and everyone agrees it's Phantons fault he just up and went off for a couple months, but he said he would be gone for only 1 month which we could have waited, then he said 2 months, had I known that to begin with he would have been removed immediately, you learn from your mistakes huh...
That was a pretty successful cup up until then though, and when finally removed the remaining games were played quickly enough.
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Cmon Avi, as community we can still vote and decide for the trl scheme, and for the awards!!!!!! As MI wrtote me last timd I was banned, Tus is his toy...
Anyways...let at least oneof these nerds create a f@#!ing mobile version of this website
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This is actually going nowhere.
@avirex,
Posts of you in this very topic show the "attitude" I was talking about. Your request of being league moderators got rejected, but your reactions made it even worse. I DO reserve the right to select my own moderators and even my reasons could be as weak as "I don't like your face". That should be the end of story. Instead, you're getting more rude for me not agreeing with you.
because i do not break rules in league games, and i believe i have only been banned from TUS once, because yes.. i broke a rule to do something i liked... but, barman was banned right along with me at the same time, along with another group of tus members
I could give it a go to your history on TUS and fish out every one of your foolish moves but It'll get mean and nothing good would come out of it.
I'll give you just one for the sake of the argument. You failed to comprehend that a Worms community site with members in all ages is no place for posting adult content. When got restricted, you created FoS as a comeback. (Freedom to speak about porn anytime)
Meanwhile people in my country struggle to have a shred of the real freedom of speech; we get jailed and receive death penalties for expressing ourselves. Now that's your "image" you wanted to laugh about.
The rules have been issue to complaint more commonly then any other feature in TUS, and since TUS birth *almost* nothing has been done to correct them.
i think MonkeyIsland has done a great job with most everything as TUS, and without him, theres a good chance a lot of us would not be here... but, the guy does not know when he needs help, and when to accept the help that is offered, its as if he wants to run every aspect of the league, with the help of his trusty side kick (darkone) and at the end of the movie, when the credits roll, he would be distraught if any other names were mentioned.
I know when to ask for help. I just don't accept every offer I get. Yes I am spreading myself too thin but it's not because I'm hungry for the credits. It's because most members want everything to be fixed for them. If the rules had the problem from the beginning, then as a member, you COULD take it and fix maybe? Like the one Senator is doing now? So what took you so long?
the reality of it is, i am very well liked in this community, if i wasn't, i would never have been able to form such a strong clan, and keep such influential members in the clan, i would never be able to form such a strong community, based around absolutely nothing (that we can disclose to the public) and i would not have been able to call you out on reading our forums, and watch you squirm like the little private forum rat that you are.
I am not the only private community/forum that has said they seen you in their forums... FoS has multiple screen shots of you in our private forum, wanna call me a liar again?? i dont remember the last time you "accidentally" clicked on our forums either MI, but that's why you will not be able to quote me saying it was recently. besides, we took all the juicy stuff to a more private forum outside of TUS anyway... so if you'd like to visit more frequently, we dont mind ;)
You are liked by the people around you. Even most hateful people in the world are liked by their friends.
You have called me names a lot and I have ignored it all. But it seems like you've got the wrong impression of me as a punching bag. Calling me a "private forum rat" is a serious insult to me. This one is implying that I do not respect my members privacy. The very first week you started FoS, you also sent me invitation to FoS and even back then you DID imply that I do read your private forums. it looks like it's something you wish for. If my name pops up on some board, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm reading its content. I could be doing various things. More importantly, I have coded the damn thing, if I want to read some private board, why should I leave a trace? Accusing me like that is not something that I tolerate. That's not an insult I suck up for the sake of letting members to express themselves.
I expect an apology from you. Of course if you're smart enough you know what I'm really hoping for you to do.
@komo,
Being cocky not only doesn't make me want to cut you some slack, it doesn't make anyone else to do the same.
I am active enough, smart enough, disciplined enough and friendly enough and respected enough to always make the right call.
active enough: correct
smart enough: correct
disciplined enough - incorrect
If you're in a good mood, yes. Otherwise no.
friendly enough - incorrect
If you're in a good mood, yes. Otherwise no.
respected enough - incorrect
On what field? BnG? yes. Darts? Yes. Having passion for what you do? Yes. Your overall personality? No.
I'm not really sure if you could hold yourself. Of course you promise you would until you'll have a bad day or someone disagrees with you and you'll lose it. and we've all seen it when you lose it.
This is from the last BnG complaint, very recently:
If a MOD voids this game because of vesuvios hide, then not only are they completely stupid
Nevermind leave the thread you should leave the f@#!ing planet.
Yes, 2 or 3, maybe 4 or 5 tops, which is less than the amount of people who have said you are an annoying c**t.
let's say all of it are true, still that's not the way a moderator responds.
Why don't you start by showing us you can "change" ? Post in the complaint board and show me how long you can hold it. That includes your posts in the rest of the forum. (not only complaints board)
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disciplined enough - incorrect
If you're in a good mood, yes. Otherwise no.
That's incorrect, I am definitely disciplined, even when I am in a bad mood I still take care of business properly, if I am in a bad mood I have swore in the past and said a few bad words but I still get the job done, the end result is always met.
friendly enough - incorrect
If you're in a good mood, yes. Otherwise no.
Most of the time I am in a good mood, this situation the way you act reminds me of our old bosses at work, they never remember all the times you said good things or done extra work, or stayed behind to help out, or done favours like covering shifts when people are off sick, but the few times you make mistakes they remember it as if it just happened and they never forget.
I am almost always in a good mood, fun to play games with, and make good conversation with people, there are a few people who I don't get along with, but I tend to stay out of their way, even for the moments myself and avirex argue, it's less than 1% of the time we have known each other and been in each others company, we do respect each other, and on top of that I do respect pretty much every person here and they know that, it's no secret I argue but people who know me know that I can argue with someone but still respect them and enjoy their company.
respected enough - incorrect
On what field? BnG? yes. Darts? Yes. Having passion for what you do? Yes. Your overall personality? No.
This is pretty much the same as the last point, my overall personality is mostly kind and generous, hardworking and passionate, if you were to weigh all the good things i've said and done against all the bad, good would be miles ahead.
I'm not really sure if you could hold yourself. Of course you promise you would until you'll have a bad day or someone disagrees with you and you'll lose it. and we've all seen it when you lose it.
I can't force you to think otherwise, it's who you are to be skeptical, not a bad quality.
This is from the last BnG complaint, very recently:
If a MOD voids this game because of vesuvios hide, then not only are they completely stupid
Nevermind leave the thread you should leave the f@#!ing planet.
Yes, 2 or 3, maybe 4 or 5 tops, which is less than the amount of people who have said you are an annoying c**t.
let's say all of it are true, still that's not the way a moderator responds.
The 1st one, I stand by the fact I feel it's an idiotic solution to void the game because both myself and vesuvio pointed out it wasn't a true darkside by the TuS rules, even avirex admited that, and the last 2 quotes are arguing with avirex, you act like we actually want to kill each other, it's clear we respect each other we've said it many times can't you see that? It's just like 2 guys sitting in the pub making fun of each other...
Why don't you start by showing us you can "change" ? Post in the complaint board and show me how long you can hold it. That includes your posts in the rest of the forum. (not only complaints board)
I can do that of course but I feel by the time you actually start to believe it, it will be too late.
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MI got some valid points here indeed, but same goes to the candidates, both sides are "right" .
And I Have a direct question to the big boss, MI.
Why do not pay to see?
What you gonna lose if they prove ur points?
I may be wrong but maybe u r a bit afraid of they make this work so nice and peoples points on you and say " porra MI see now? told you puto.." and stuff.
Avirex looks like is out, but Komo still up to be a MOD.
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Komo and Avi are part of the community, being around for years and still playing quite actively... they like have fun with jokes and stuff, talking about porn, asses and tits is not an issue in our part of the world, maybe you don't understand or cannot figure out how it's that and it could be a limit in judging them for how they really are. For me they are two simple guys, that like me and other bunch of dumbs enjoy taking things from the funny and sarcastic prospective... but when it goes down to the serious level, I am a PRO f@#!ing man, and at work I am stronger than a rock. But I am the kind of guy that in the free time, even at work, I enjoy life.. and I enjoy it in my anal way, but I do my f@#!ing job, working 15 hours per day.
Do what you want, community wants that, ... but this community it seems to be quite vertical, you, MI, on top and than you go down super fast to the slave prospective. ... that's not nice... it's pretty egoistic.
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In the hierarchy you describe, MI would ban anyone that disagreed with him and he certainly wouldn't take the time to post his reasons.
15 hours a day is a lot. Expains a lot about your posting here.
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I start before 8, finish normally in the evening.. a lot of pauses, especially when I am in shooting sessions... that's it... no time to play anymore, but I like posting here. Is that a problem? don't think I have to explain anything though...
I understand Avi has already given up... it's pretty stupid continuing arguing on this. do whatever you want. for me it has no sense, they should have their possibility and the league will probably benefit form that. but you guys think yu're doing so well and yu don't need anyone...
have fun, i don't play anymore, i don't know what's going on in ag... i just see that both avi and komo are still playing... more than you and MI...
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The attitude of people like you is the main reason people stop moderating.
You're not the only person who works long days, you know. But you don't have to deal with your crap after work, unlike moderators.
Is that a problem?
Do you see a warning next to your name?
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- No, I don't see the warmer button... warning... (this time, but I have seen it many times xD)
- the reason why you call me and others crappy stuff, or the reason why moderators stopped moderating is the same reason WHY this community is still alive. Because if you think that we're still alive only because of your extra work after work, you must be crazy. We are the showmen of this community, brought attention and fun for all these years, entertainment, like in the wrestling world. Without FoS people, and also other "hated" people and without dramas going on, you wouldn't have your name in Blu and the title of moderator anymore.
We are two opposites, and this has made sense for growing up and have fun, even the banning part in the end has been funny and part of the show. If you don't understand this, as we understand and have awareness of this, you are blind. Everyone is working , or studying or having sex or drugs for too many hours, and when they come back home, they will open the forum, because they feel part of their daily routine, everyone has their own role, your is moderating, mine is bullshitting, we'll never give up, cause is our position, our task, our extra job. But when it boils down to the serious level, everyone who's having sense and love for the game/community, they know how to behave and act.
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wow, so much passion.
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Darkone: dont take what i said out of context, about the walking on eggshells bit.
ANO: this man seems to be the only person here that really gets it
MonkeyIsland: im glad you finally admit that you made your choice based on your personal feelings about me, and your right... you have every right to do this... its your league, but lets not be all koom-by-yah anymore, and pretend that you always do what the community wants, ok? your doing what you want... and i respect that, its about time you grew some f@#!ing balls, and do whats best for this community without having a little pow-wow before every decision.
if you think its best that im not MOD, im proud that you put your foot down, kudos to you, but ill be damned if ill ever apologies to you for the remarks i made, however.. i will say i took it too far when i called you a "private forum rat" i have no proof that MI has read any private forums, but i do have proof that he "browsed" or "viewed" however you would like to word it... what he was doing there, is beyond me, i have no idea... i don't really care... i DO NOT think that MI reads private material for any kind of benefit to him, such as clan chat, etc.... if he was reading FoS forums, im not sure.. i would not blame him, im sure everyone is a bit curious as to what actually goes on there... but as i said, we moved our really private, and juicy stuff outside of FoS, so feel free to stop in at any time.
my very first post about this specific topic, was that you "browsed" private forums, if you prefer "viewed" our private forums, then i apologize, i never said you "read our private forums" because i can not prove that, but i can prove that you viewed.
you then retaliated with the name calling, when you called me a liar, so i will admit that i took it too far with "private forum rat" but i am no f@#!ing liar, and to me, thats the worst thing you can call anyone!! your attacking my character as a man, and i take more offense to that then any f@#!ing little internet bullshit.
there is two things you do not call a man unless.... number 1) its the truth, or number 2) your looking for a fight.
thats a liar, and a thief, and a liar is even worse then a thief, a thief's only after your salary, a liar is after your reality.
but whatever, whats done is done, you called me a liar, and i called you a private forum rat, im not looking for an apology from you though... and if your really waiting for one from me, you will be waiting for a long time my friend.. if you want to ban me because you don't receive one, lets start my time now... i just hope its not a life sentence.
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ANO, This community is still alive for a multitude of reasons. Your "entertainment" is just one of them (mainly for your friends). So is the fact a league still exists. WA is pretty rare for its gameplay and game mechanics and that's the main reason it's still played.
I don't claim to be the best thing since sliced bread, never have, never will. I'm not even sure why you bring up this topic. It's irrelevant to this thread.
Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over. And it's not just here, WO had its share of bullshit to handle as well, the announcements about when it starts kept coming later and later. To say it's all you would be absurd, of course. To say everything you post is bullshit is equally absurd. But you play your part in the bullshit machine.
That is relevant considering this thread is about not having enough moderators.
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Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over.
and that is what me and komo have volunteered to do, not only be moderators, but to fix the rules, so there is much less bullshit in these threads...
it just enhances the things i have said in the beginning of this post, before things went way out of control, and pretty much off topic.
its completely asinine that you mods will find at least one complaint a week that really has found a fine line with-in the rule book, and could pretty much land on either side of the tracks, yet.. all you do is make a final decision about the specific game and move on... but then you will make comments in threads like this "omg, it sucks to be a mod, there is so much drama in the complaint section, and im so tired when i get home from work"
if the rule book was fixed, then it would be a simple copy and paste away, virtually anyone could be a mod.
I would hate to say it, but i kind of wish ropa was here, we may not agree on most things, but i bet he would be driving home all the points i am trying to make.
I know exactly what MI is going to say, "well whats stopping your from making fixes in the rules?? you could have done that at any point" or something similar, and sure, he is right... i could read the rule book, and try to brain storm things that need to be added, but that would be a mega fail (just as the first rule book) you need the hands on experience, and case-by-case examples to draw inspiration from.
So, if MI is too stubborn to make komo a MOD, he could always follow along in the complaint section, and with each complaint, take note if the rule book could/should have an update.. that would be a great help in the community, but at the same time, its a slap in the face to him suggesting he cant simultaneously be a MOD, so that would be komo decision.
@komo: If MI is setting these stipulations to be MOD, that you have to turn into some tree hugging, dick riding, alter boy... watch your language at all times, refrain from getting in any debates, name calling, or otherwise controversial behavior, i would strongly suggest you do not do that, komo.... this community needs you komo, we need you just how you are, dont change just to become a silly ass MOD... we dont need another computer generated personality haunting the ultimate site, we need real people.... im sorry, but i like when people present to the community who they are, regardless how silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy, or any other descriptive word they are... cant stand it when some of these robotic people (i wont mention any names) just acts in a professional manner as if this is some work environment... i mean, if that is how you really act in your real life, then that is ok, continue to be yourself, but its not fun, did you notice your lack of friends outside of the work place? :D so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p
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Komo and Avi are part of the community, being around for years and still playing quite actively... they like have fun with jokes and stuff, talking about porn, asses and tits is not an issue in our part of the world, maybe you don't understand or cannot figure out how it's that and it could be a limit in judging them for how they really are. For me they are two simple guys, that like me and other bunch of dumbs enjoy taking things from the funny and sarcastic prospective... but when it goes down to the serious level, I am a PRO f@#!ing man, and at work I am stronger than a rock. But I am the kind of guy that in the free time, even at work, I enjoy life.. and I enjoy it in my anal way, but I do my f@#!ing job, working 15 hours per day.
Do what you want, community wants that, ... but this community it seems to be quite vertical, you, MI, on top and than you go down super fast to the slave prospective. ... that's not nice... it's pretty egoistic.
The problem with you (and your circle of friends) is that you see the site only for yourself. In that context, yes it is OK to talk about whatever you want and whenever you want. This site has over 3000 members. They come from different countries, different cultures and different ages. The one thing that hold us together is the game itself.
I'm pretty sure talking about porn in Italy for very young people IS an issue.
MonkeyIsland: im glad you finally admit that you made your choice based on your personal feelings about me, and your right... you have every right to do this... its your league, but lets not be all koom-by-yah anymore, and pretend that you always do what the community wants, ok? your doing what you want... and i respect that, its about time you grew some f@#!ing balls, and do whats best for this community without having a little pow-wow before every decision.
You don't seem to get the "personal feeling" concept.
"judging by personal feelings" is when you let an alternative source meddle with your main source of judgement. I know you from TUS. My "feelings" of you has shaped by your behavior on TUS. There's no alternative source to meddle in my judgement! I do the same when I'm "judging" nino, DarkOne, Deadcode etc etc.
@komo: If MI is setting these stipulations to be MOD, that you have to turn into some tree hugging, dick riding, alter boy... watch your language at all times, refrain from getting in any debates, name calling, or otherwise controversial behavior, i would strongly suggest you do not do that, komo.... this community needs you komo, we need you just how you are, dont change just to become a silly ass MOD... we dont need another computer generated personality haunting the ultimate site, we need real people.... im sorry, but i like when people present to the community who they are, regardless how silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy, or any other descriptive word they are... cant stand it when some of these robotic people (i wont mention any names) just acts in a professional manner as if this is some work environment... i mean, if that is how you really act in your real life, then that is ok, continue to be yourself, but its not fun, did you notice your lack of friends outside of the work place? :D so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p
Yes. That's exactly what this is about. If you want to be "silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy", then be yourself. Nobody's taking that from you. If you wanna run for politics, you gotta watch yourself. Isn't that common sense?
so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p
First of all, Komo already is a tournament moderator, long before this discussion. The league mod package, you'll go under the magnifying glass and it comes with a lot of drama hence the "stipulations".
Second, you have always been making fun of Komo, going after each one of his posts, we all know that. I've even sent you private messages to stop picking on him. I don't find any "respect" in that. Now you're his buddy? charging him with "free spirit" emotions and losing your non-existent respect if he goes to the other direction?
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avi as mod? plz no..
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Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over.
Well maybe that stops you, but it doesn't stop me, I read almost every thread cuz everything is interesting to me, bad complaints and good compliments.
Lol avi, I wouldn't change who I am as a person to be a MOD, i'd still have the same character, i'd still argue and take the piss in games etc, however I would watch what I am saying in forums and not swear, and we could just move our arguements somewhere else :P
@ MonkeyIsland:
It is actually possible to temporary hate someone, yet still have respect for them.
When you said "If you wanna run for politics, you gotta watch yourself", while that is true, this is hardly politics lol, for starters pretty much everyone on TuS is an honest person, everyone in politics is a lying useless git lol.
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MI, i understand your "feelings" on me, are based on my actions on TUS... uhmm... no shit?? they obviously are not based on my actions at the bar last saturday night, when i got on the karaoke machine, and made a complete ass of myself...
they are based on TUS, no kidding dude... but the thing your failing to understand is, just because your feelings of me (based on my actions at tus) are that im a hot head, or a silly f@#!, or not cut out for a mod, does not mean thats everyones feelings of me... stop pretending like your actions are justified, and your giving solid reasons why... your actions are based on YOUR OPINION of me, and the only solid reason why your actions are justified, is because this is your website... just roll with that, its more respectable, i actually do respect the fact that TUS is yours, and you make the decisions, im glad you have found your balls, for a while they were at the very bottom of your purse ;)
as far as me and komo, I'll take jabs at him until the day i die, and he will return them. that does not mean we do not have respect for one another, we have known each other well over ten years, if you do not have any people in your life that you exchange harmless banter at with, but still have respect for... then maybe you need to get out more.
and come on dude, are we really comparing a worms armageddon league mod, to a politician? lol... wait... really? seriously?? ...
or is that a joke?... it must be a joke!! LOL! GOOD ONE MI!! buahuahauah i knew you had a good sense of humor hidden deep inside of you, lmfao.. that was a good one dude, you made a funny!!! worms politicians hahahahah cant stop laughing now
lets just end this thread on that funny joke...
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Let it be, really. I can understand what MI is telling you and.. he is not wrong at all. So just respect it and work on your reputation. Also, sometimes its better just to shut up and think twice before post.
No offense, Komo and Avi.
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I actually feel like i've been perfectly fine here...
And I agree with some things MI says, but don't agree with his end result.
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Let it be, really. I can understand what MI is telling you and.. he is not wrong at all. So just respect it and work on your reputation. Also, sometimes its better just to shut up and think twice before post.
No offense, Komo and Avi.
how can you say MonkeyIsland is not wrong at all SPW?? its his opinion, maybe you share the same opinion as him, but you are not the judge of his opinions being right or wrong, sorry bud.
I think my reputation is just fine, i have nothing at all to work on, as far as my reputation goes...... i will agree tho, there are times i should think before i talk/type.. both in real life, and on the internet.
No offense taken SPW. and i am prepared to "Let it be, really." as soon as people stop addressing me in their posts ;)
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avi as mod? plz no...
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Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt.
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I think both Komo and avi would do a good job as moderators. However they would have to be able to work well as a group with Darkone and MI, and I'm not so sure about that.. MI has reserved his right to chose his own staff and people should respect that. An alternative is to start up your own league to compete with TUS. I think it could be healthy to have two competitive leagues to sparkle up things a bit again, though as a community we benefit having one league in a more longterm perspective
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@Monkeyisland: 3000 signed users... 15 active members. My circle of friends and unfriends (part of the show) it's the 85% of this website. You shouldn't underestimate our stuff.
You and D1 seem to bee very presumptuous and not open to critics. D1, of course my argument are relevant to this discussion, you should be able to see this in a larger prospective, I hope.
@Crazy: yes, you might be right.. but we are a small community, it could be very dangerous if we go for that.
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@Monkeyisland: 3000 signed users... 15 active members.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-standings/
I'm open to criticism, provided it's not made up statistics. People seem to like worms history, so it's a good thing old accounts aren't automatically wiped.
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I think both Komo and avi would do a good job as moderators. However they would have to be able to work well as a group with Darkone and MI, and I'm not so sure about that.. MI has reserved his right to chose his own staff and people should respect that. An alternative is to start up your own league to compete with TUS. I think it could be healthy to have two competitive leagues to sparkle up things a bit again, though as a community we benefit having one league in a more longterm perspective
I think I get on with MI and D1 well enough, I remember MI saying to me once that he agrees with most of my opinions and respects my values, although he doesn't like my way of delivering those messages lol, maybe he has changed his opinion on that now I dunno...
I believe I have said some harsh things towards MI and D1 in the past, but I would say not exactly direct insults at them, it's things like when I said in the vesuvio thread "if MODs void this game they are stupid" which is just as meaningless as me saying I hate my Dad when I was 13 because he wouldn't buy me the game I wanted, and I guess it's my way of treating situations I don't quite fully understand why they are happening that way.
I am still interested to be a MOD, but as I said before if I cannot be a MOD it's not something I will chase and I don't mind if I cannot be one, it's something I would take seriously and always give my full attention and I do believe I would be the best person for the job but then if I don't get selected for this, it means I still have free time to play games watch TV and make music :D
Edit: After posting in the other thread made me think, if I cannot be a full MOD, then at least let me be the official BnG MOD for now? I can whip the rules into shape and help people!
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komo, your really starting to sound desperate...
your border line begging, who cares if your MOD or not?? me and you would both be great mods, 90% of the people that posted here agree. but because of MonkeyIslands personal feelings of us, we are not going to be given a chance.
its time to move on.
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me and you would both be great mods, 90% of the people that posted here agree.
8 vs 3, not counting MI, yourself and komo, slightly less favourable if you count the neutrals as halves for both camps. Still very favorable, but people should stop mentioning numbers if they pull them out of their ass.
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omg, i stand corrected by the number natzi himself!!
forgive me everyone!!
edit: komo, your really starting to sound desperate...
your border line begging, who cares if your MOD or not?? me and you would both be great mods, 72.727272727% of the people that posted here agree. but because of MonkeyIslands personal feelings of us, we are not going to be given a chance.
its time to move on.
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I've already said I don't mind if I cannot be a MOD, so why would you mention desperation? Some of the things you say are completely beyond me...
Either way, I can make up my own mind, after all I thought you respected the fact I always do what I want? ;)
Also, why on Earth do we say MOD all in caps??? That's the Ministry of Defense lol, that always bothered me, from now on i'll just say moderator :P
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Well sometimes we just gotta use caps
D1 is my HERO
Iam the KING
Komo might be a MOD soon
Avirex is just a CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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I've already said I don't mind if I cannot be a MOD, so why would you mention desperation? Some of the things you say are completely beyond me...
"I am still interested to be a MOD, but as I said before if I cannot be a MOD it's not something I will chase and I don't mind if I cannot be one, it's something I would take seriously and always give my full attention and I do believe I would be the best person for the job but then if I don't get selected for this, it means I still have free time to play games watch TV and make music"
**later that day**
"After posting in the other thread made me think, if I cannot be a full MOD, then at least let me be the official BnG MOD for now? I can whip the rules into shape and help people!"
how is that not desperate?? "if I cannot be a full Hells Angel, then at least let me be the official motorcycle mechanic for now? Ii can whip your bikes into shape and help people!... oh, and i can do other duties, such as grab the gang beers, suck dick, and clean all the puke from the bathroom urinals too!"
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I think you mistake desperation for attempting other areas of support, but of course feel free to think as you like ;)
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"if I cannot be a full Hells Angel, then at least let me be the official motorcycle mechanic for now? Ii can whip your bikes into shape and help people!... oh, and i can do other duties, such as grab the gang beers, suck dick, and clean all the puke from the bathroom urinals too!"
LOL :D
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"if I cannot be a full Hells Angel, then at least let me be the official motorcycle mechanic for now? Ii can whip your bikes into shape and help people!... oh, and i can do other duties, such as grab the gang beers, suck dick, and clean all the puke from the bathroom urinals too!"
LOL :D
I rly laughed at this shit lol
I think both Komo and avi would do a good job as moderators. However they would have to be able to work well as a group with Darkone and MI, and I'm not so sure about that.. MI has reserved his right to chose his own staff and people should respect that. An alternative is to start up your own league to compete with TUS. I think it could be healthy to have two competitive leagues to sparkle up things a bit again, though as a community we benefit having one league in a more longterm perspective
Thumbs up for you Crazy.
I agreed with ya mate! WOuld be perfect if we have another league to play and become more competitive . Don't get me wrong MI.