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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: Sbaffo on October 19, 2016, 09:47 AM
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[2016-10-19 09.43.45] ••• FUB`Sbaffo is hosting a game on #AnythingGoes named "FUB`Sbaffo"
[2016-10-19 09.43.53] ••• Incoming connection on slot 0
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[2016-10-19 09.44.17] [harpybro] YO
[2016-10-19 09.44.28] [harpybro] HOST NEXT MY PICK pls
[2016-10-19 09.44.31] [FUB`Sbaffo] sure
[2016-10-19 09.44.34] [harpybro] man i no play roper
[2016-10-19 09.44.42] [harpybro] maybe e;lite or shooper
[2016-10-19 09.44.47] [harpybro] no play roper
[2016-10-19 09.44.49] [FUB`Sbaffo] we agreed to tus sorry, this is my pick
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[2016-10-19 09.44.55] [harpybro] sorry
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[2016-10-19 09.45.02] [harpybro] can play shoope
[2016-10-19 09.45.05] [FUB`Sbaffo] nope
[2016-10-19 09.45.06] [harpybro] u win
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[2016-10-19 09.45.12] [harpybro] no play roper never sry
[2016-10-19 09.45.20] [FUB`Sbaffo] ok let's play your pic kthen
[2016-10-19 09.45.21] ••• Booting player: Serik
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[2016-10-19 09.45.25] [harpybro] why no shoper or bng u pick
[2016-10-19 09.45.31] [FUB`Sbaffo] why should i
[2016-10-19 09.45.36] [harpybro] no host u pick first
[2016-10-19 09.45.43] [harpybro] host u pick
[2016-10-19 09.45.50] [FUB`Sbaffo] my pick is roper
[2016-10-19 09.45.52] [harpybro] first i no give u free win
[2016-10-19 09.45.55] [harpybro] .mm noo
[2016-10-19 09.45.57] [harpybro] sorry
[2016-10-19 09.46.03] [FUB`Sbaffo] well this is going to be reported then
[2016-10-19 09.46.04] [harpybro] u can shooper
[2016-10-19 09.46.06] [harpybro] to
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[2016-10-19 09.46.14] [FUB`Sbaffo] you don't decide my pick
[2016-10-19 09.46.14] [harpybro] i have 3% chane to win
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[2016-10-19 09.46.18] [FUB`Sbaffo] i don't care
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If a player agrees to play TUS with you and then disappears before playing it, you CANNOT report free win. That match never started and cannot be reported.
If a player plays his pick but then disappears at your pick, you CAN report free win. But even that free win must be played when that player comes back.
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xD Sbaffo what is this , this guy even do not speak english, free win xD :D :D i agree you can`t just report free win if game didn`t start
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lmao, what a lamer... ::)
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I don't see where's the problem... this guy agreed to tus with me and left the host on purpose because he didn't want to play my pick, it's not like he disappeared. When you agree to play tus with someone it shouldn't be allowed to avoid a game just because you suck at a scheme, deal with it.
xD Sbaffo what is this , this guy even do not speak english, free win xD :D :D i agree you can`t just report free win if game didn`t start
this guy doesn't know english but he sure knew what he was doing. period.
lmao, what a lamer... ::)
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You could report him for avoiding but even then a free win may not be given because he is not someone who aims for playoffs...
Now it's like he decided to look for "tus no ropes" after he saw your pick.
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So let me get this straight... if i let someone host a tus game, i'm allowed to join it and leave as i see his pick just because i'm a spastic guy who cannot play a scheme? This shit still goes on this motherf@#!ing league? Do you even realize how much lame and stupid is this? TUS rules need to be fixed asap, this bullshit cannot last forever, people need to understand this league has got 8 schemes in which 2 players pick one. This is not "you play what i say" league, it sounds so f@#!ing stupid! He is not even a newcomer come on...
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Well harpy should have written "tus no roper/wxw/ttrr" when he looked for tus. But he could as well have said "sry I need to go" after seeing your pick so I don't think he should be punished for saying no to Roper in the lobby.
I think "tus defaults only" or such should be allowed only occasionally. When it looks like a player will reach 80 games and be fighting for a playoff spot, he can't avoid certain schemes all the time.
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Well harpy should have written "tus no roper/wxw/ttrr" when he looked for tus. But he could as well have said "sry I need to go" after seeing your pick so I don't think he should be punished for saying no to Roper in the lobby.
I think "tus defaults only" or such should be allowed only occasionally. When it looks like a player will reach 80 games and be fighting for a playoff spot, he can't avoid certain schemes all the time.
People should never avoid in any case regardless they're fighting for playoffs or not, this is a league: L-E-A-G-U-E. Being in a league means you're a competitive player not a f@#!ing moron. These kind of attitudes aren't tollerated in any competitive league. Again, if someone wants to play only certain schemes play funner games.
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Harpy is usually a lame player. Always rage-quitting.
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lmao, what a lamer... ::)
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muahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :-X ;D :D
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I've tried to labour the point enough times.
TUS is an 8 league scheme - you should not be able to make it a 4 league scheme for yourself only.
Learn to play or do TRL.
*Awaiting "you don't even play comments*
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TUS is an 8 league scheme - you should not be able to make it a 4 league scheme for yourself only.
Can someone put this in the home page/rules and make it mandatory? Glad someone still got some common sense here.
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TUS is an 8 league scheme - you should not be able to make it a 4 league scheme for yourself only.
Can someone put this in the home page/rules and make it mandatory? Glad someone still got some common sense here.
TUS has ropes, enough with the TUS no ropes people like pizzashit
I follow the gufo
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What are you suggesting exactly?
Whenever someone looks for "tus no ropes", you can report a free win if he joins the lobby and refuses to play your rope pick?
What harpy did is rare. Usually people either write "tus no ropes" or give a free win and play just their own pick. harpy didn't want to give a free win so he canceled the match.
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What are you suggesting exactly?
Whenever someone looks for "tus no ropes", you can report a free win if he joins the lobby and refuses to play your rope pick?
What harpy did is rare. Usually people either write "tus no ropes" or give a free win and play just their own pick. harpy didn't want to give a free win so he canceled the match.
Cancelling match? Dude are you kidding me? He joined, he saw that i was picking roper and left, that's not "cancelling", that's intentionally avoiding. Have you ever tryied to "cancel" a match in dota2 just because, for example, your opponent is picking a champion you don't like to play against? Guess what, you get a penalty for that! He didn't cancel, he avoided, and for god's f@#!ing sake, make a rule about it, if you don't like playing either ropes or default schemes DON'T PLAY TUS. We've had already thousand of discussions that concerned this, i've got fed up. Create a matchmaking, make new rules, don't let this kind of behaviour go through a LEAGUE. You're being too soft over these people, and as a consequence you find people like Chelsea or Asbest in the top standings! It's time to end this.
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people like Chelsea or Asbest in the top standings! It's time to end this.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
butt hurt any1? :D
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people like Chelsea or Asbest in the top standings! It's time to end this.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
butt hurt any1? :D
What a well elaborate sentence, it truly reflects your maturity and capability to have a serious conversation, that's why none takes you seriously i guess.
Remember that you were 29th in the last overall while i was 4th and i'm currently fighting to steal your position, it's just a matter of time, we'll see who'll have the butthurts. ;)
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I don't care about standings in TUS single :) clanners FTW!
I played 1 season coz I THOUGH THERE STILL IS MONEY TO WIN... If I know there's no money to win I wouldn't play more than 5 games in 51 season.
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I don't care about standings in TUS single :) clanners FTW!
I played 1 season coz I THOUGH THERE STILL IS MONEY TO WIN... If I know there's no money to win I wouldn't play more than 5 games in 51 season.
STILL you managed to noobash the whole season, hmm smells like lies. Don't clutch on straws, your curriculum is full of lame actions, next time put your tongue back wether you want make me look like a lamer, the hypocrisy damn...
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I don't care about standings in TUS single :) clanners FTW!
I played 1 season coz I THOUGH THERE STILL IS MONEY TO WIN... If I know there's no money to win I wouldn't play more than 5 games in 51 season.
man prize money for seasons is like the lowest paying job in the world, even less than mcdonalds, chels
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What are you suggesting exactly?
Whenever someone looks for "tus no ropes", you can report a free win if he joins the lobby and refuses to play your rope pick?
What harpy did is rare. Usually people either write "tus no ropes" or give a free win and play just their own pick. harpy didn't want to give a free win so he canceled the match.
cancelling?
"tus no ropes"???
are you kidding me?
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I've tried to labour the point enough times.
TUS is an 8 league scheme - you should not be able to make it a 4 league scheme for yourself only.
Learn to play or do TRL.
*Awaiting "you don't even play comments*
Applaud
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+1 for Sbaffo, its a league, the circus is around the corner.
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Now i'm curios to see what mods are going to do about this... you changed ttrr scheme when it had no priority (i'm not blaming your decision), therefore you should change the rules or at least do something about it in order to avoid more episodes like this. Both singles and clanners.
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you guys are pretty funny:
current situation: harpy leaves when he is forced to play rope games >>>> no game played
situation if your suggestion is approved: harpy does not play because he does not like rope games >> no game played
the outcome would be the same
the problem of tus is not avoiding, the problem of tus is a point system which encourages noob bashing by default.
sbaffo would get around 40 points for beating harpy in a roper, which quite equal to the default amount of points you get for winning anyone at the start of the season, so lets just call it average. but harpy cant rope for shit, in fact he is worse than myself. despite this, sbaffo would only get 25 points if he beats me in a roper. sbaffo playing roper against harpy should not have any influence on standings, unless harpy turns into an average roper. this game would never happen in any kind of matchmaking system, because sbaffo is one of the best ropers of all time, while harpy is one of the worst.
trying to get the reward of beating an average player, while playing an below average player seems pretty lame in my eyes.
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you guys are pretty funny:
current situation: harpy leaves when he is forced to play rope games >>>> no game played
situation if your suggestion is approved: harpy does not play because he does not like rope games >> no game played
the outcome would be the same
the problem of tus is not avoiding, the problem of tus is a point system which encourages noob bashing by default.
sbaffo would get around 40 points for beating harpy in a roper, which quite equal to the default amount of points you get for winning anyone at the start of the season, so lets just call it average. but harpy cant rope for shit, in fact he is worse than myself. despite this, sbaffo would only get 25 points if he beats me in a roper. sbaffo playing roper against harpy should not have any influence on standings, unless harpy turns into an average roper. this game would never happen in any kind of matchmaking system, because sbaffo is one of the best ropers of all time, while harpy is one of the worst.
trying to get the reward of beating an average player, while playing an below average player seems pretty lame in my eyes.
If the system had worked like you say, i'd be picking ttrr every game. Tus system points is fine, kinda. The reason why i'm getting this amount of point it's becuase tus got resetted, therefore as i earn 29 points roper i can lose 40 points in team17 or elite (which are my worst scheme by far) against anyone, even to Random00.
Also implying that harpy is "being forced to play roper" lol... you make it sound like a murder dude, have you ever seen me refusing to play shopper? I hate that scheme, but if my opponent picks it, i play it. Have you ever seen me manipulating anyone just because afraid to lose points? Get it over, this a league, you either win or lose, what you can do is to improve your skillz. If you either don't have time or too lazy to do it, don't play league.
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This is not as simple as you think.
When TUS league started, the rules were actually the way you described. But in time, people started to report free win for the tiniest disagreements. Complaint threads with logs and sometimes a free win over a one line of conversation with someone.
You are forgetting the other side of your logic, what good is somebody's points if they earn it by non-played matches?
harpy's case could be easily solved by the current rules. You could just play harpy's pick first to ensure the "match set" has started, then harpy couldn't refuse and this free win would be legit.
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zZzZzZzZzZzZzZz, people fight for earning just 10$... fssssh.
Edit:- 10$ per 5 months.
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Why should i do that? First of all, he asked to host my pick, and everytime someone do that i get worried because my opponent is going to leave. If you noticed it, i asked him to play his pick as well, but unfortunately he refused to do that as well.I can't understand how someone could refuse to play a scheme, it's a sort of disrespect pretending that your opponent must pick something just because you can't play all the schemes. I've never done that, not even when i was a new player that picked only hysteria. This game with this league has a great potential, unfortunately some people here don't have a clear sense of competion, therefore we have people abusing rules and pretending to do whatever they want. When it comes to this league, i often try to be reasonable with other players (example: you must leave a game that just started, i don't report it although rules say that i'm allowed to that) however i can't stand someone that avoids or doesn't want to play a scheme in this league just because he sucks at it. It's not fair. You should realize MI that this league has gotten worse by the years, as the activity decreased, less competitive players have been around, i'm sure in the previous leagues peoole wouldn't have behaved like this (i hope someone prove me that i'm not wrong as i wasn't playing this game in the golden era...).
Don't be lazy. Play everyone and everything. Imagine, it's easy if you try!
zZzZzZzZzZzZzZz, people fight for earning just 10$... fssssh.
There are no prizes currently in the league, be coherent when you post something.
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Why should i do that? First of all, he asked to host my pick, and everytime someone do that i get worried because my opponent is going to leave.
I haven`t done that Sbaffo :) i am like ``ew`` or ``ohh`` but i play your pick or everyone who picks rope scheme like TTRR or Roper althouch i suck at. I see your point , I remember i had same case one time , game has started and my oponent left the game with words `` i don`t play BnG`` althouch game has started and we agreed on TUS . This case is different but has same point of vew.
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Yeah harpy was in a position to say "no roper or no game" cos he had lower season rating. But as I said, harpy could have searched "tus no Roper anyone?" in AG and the outcome would be the same = no game.
Rules like "you can't fall back from a TUS match after joining the game lobby" or "agreements regarding scheme picks are not valid" would have loopholes and lead to awkward situations.
1. What if you "drop" after you see your opponent's pick? Or just suddenly find out that you can't play? Or in 2vs2 games your partner goes afk and never arrives at the game lobby? If such a rule was in place, no one would ever say "no Roper or no game" but simply leave the lobby. A free win could be given no matter what was the reason for leaving, though, and the player would have one week to play the pick.
2. Someone who doesn't want to play Roper writes "tus no roper anyone?" in AG. You would need to lie to him "ok let's tus no roper" to get him in the lobby and then pick Roper. Or at least get logs where he looks for "tus no roper" and then refuses to play regular tus with you.
Also, some players play just occasionally and they want to play certain schemes or with their buddies. Avoiding rules and such are meant for situations where a player tries to abuse the system in order to get in playoffs. If these rules applied stricly to every player, there would be just less players and less games. If harpy can't have a tus game without rope schemes, he won't simply look for tus. Is that what you want?
cancelling?
"tus no ropes"???
are you kidding me?
Never saw Chel..people looking for "tus defaults only"? It's not a new thing.
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cancelling?
"tus no ropes"???
are you kidding me?
Never saw Chel..people looking for "tus defaults only"? It's not a new thing.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tus-discussion/please-explain-this-to-me-29415/
oh thanks for deleting the game and promoting mono-picking in this league, let the lamers/avoiders do whatever they want, i have seriously no words... porcoddio riprendetevi...
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If someone wants to "tus no roper" they should have their current season roper points wiped to 0.
They don't deserve a roper rating because they don't consider it as a scheme they have to play.
The player could tick the schemes they are willing to play on TUS.
Any scheme they aren't willing to play should have a frozen rating of 0.
That way the standings are a reflection of their ALLROUND ability.
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If someone wants to "tus no roper" they should have their current season roper points wiped to 0.
They don't deserve a roper rating because they don't consider it as a scheme they have to play.
The player could tick the schemes they are willing to play on TUS.
Any scheme they aren't willing to play should have a frozen rating of 0.
That way the standings are a reflection of their ALLROUND ability.
Nice idea, what do you think about this mods?
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This would work good with built-in tus matchmaker. Player 1 untick Elite and Int, which he suck at, Player 2 untick Roper and TTRR, which he can not play, bingo! - they would never meet in a tus game.
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I've set up a poll, everyone vote, this is important. I'm giving it 4 days.
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What do you mean by 0? TUS's base for each scheme is 1000. If someone doesn't play a scheme, their scheme points will stay at 1000, which means it's untouched/zero.
Also to note that, that "avoiding strategy" doesn't work on POs.
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Ah i want to change my opinion to the last one son of a bitch!!
And one to the matchmaking idea: if somebody selects that he wants to play only hysteria, and an other player selects all the schemes, then they will never meet? So the guy who selected only hysteria can play against a player who also selected only hysteria? Well, maybe that would be a mathematical prove that he would never find an opponent, so he misunderstood what the classic league is about.. (hyst was a bad example i know xd)
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Ah i want to change my opinion to the last one son of a bitch!!
And one to the matchmaking idea: if somebody selects that he wants to play only hysteria, and an other player selects all the schemes, then they will never meet? So the guy who selected only hysteria can play against a player who also selected only hysteria? Well, maybe that would be a mathematical prove that he would never find an opponent, so he misunderstood what the classic league is about.. (hyst was a bad example i know xd)
No, matchmaking won't have these options. We want players to play all the schemes.
EDIT: Accidentally resetted votes to 0, sorry
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Ye i think the same.. life is hard guys, accept it.. sometimes you will suck whether you want it or not
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Dude your 4th option is so hilarious, everyone going to vote for it lol
I did, then remembered that this poll is serious and regretted it
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Dude your 4th option is so hilarious, everyone going to vote for it lol
I did, then remembered that this poll is serious and regretted it
Ill count your vote as yes, i know you're not an egoistic son of a bitch
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Dude your 4th option is so hilarious, everyone going to vote for it lol
I did, then remembered that this poll is serious and regretted it
Ill count your vote as yes, i know you're not an egoistic son of a bitch
f@#! off im the king of kings gufo ;D
change mine to #2
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I can't change it
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I can't change it
In your mind when doing the countings
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Ye i think the same.. life is hard guys, accept it.. sometimes you will suck whether you want it or not
no mate pls no
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Have separate leagues? Novice League & Pro League?
Novice League consist of: Roper, Team17, Pro, Hysteria & Big RR.
Pro League: BnG, Elite, Normal and TTRR.
Get certain amount of points from Novice League to qualify to partake in Pro League.
Or just have a league where little schemes are available?
Of course, all other leagues needs to be terminated and stored in archives.
This poll is very subjective.
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Have separate leagues? Novice League & Pro League?
Novice League consist of: Roper, Team17, Pro, Hysteria & Big RR.
Pro League: BnG, Elite, Normal and TTRR.
Get certain amount of points from Novice League to qualify to partake in Pro League.
Or just have a league where little schemes are available?
Of course, all other leagues needs to be terminated and stored in archives.
This poll is very subjective.
Are there enough active players for that to work though?
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Ye i think the same.. life is hard guys, accept it.. sometimes you will suck whether you want it or not
no mate pls no
I meant ttrr against sbaffo ofc xd
Dude your 4th option is so hilarious, everyone going to vote for it lol
I did, then remembered that this poll is serious and regretted it
Same here :D
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Randomize scheme pick, go to tus, click on random scheme and then tus picks one for both players. The scheme will be on pending mode until both have played it. You would need the permission of your opponent to do this.
Other words: Players choice of scheme is taken away.
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Randomize scheme pick, go to tus, click on random scheme and then tus picks one for both players. The scheme will be on pending mode until both have played it. You would need the permission of your opponent to do this.
Other words: Players choice of scheme is taken away.
you dont know what else do? you do not play league, or avoiding most players like and Chelsea. but you want to change rules of league... will begin to change yourself.
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What are you suggesting exactly?
You're being too soft over these people, and as a consequence you find people like Chelsea or Asbest in the top standings! It's time to end this.
xD yea give reset statistic for Chelsea :D
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Randomize scheme pick, go to tus, click on random scheme and then tus picks one for both players. The scheme will be on pending mode until both have played it. You would need the permission of your opponent to do this.
Other words: Players choice of scheme is taken away.
you dont know what else do? you do not play league, or avoiding most players like and Chelsea. but you want to change rules of league... will begin to change yourself.
Sure he doesn't play league, but his idea is still good. I don't know if I would want this option all the time but would definely get rid of avoiding schemes. Having this as as an option with matchmaking would be a nice feature to trial.
And I know i don't play league either
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Sbaffo you do not even started the game and already worrie for the points as if you lost with hard earned money. i think similar a very serious attitude to the game is a disease.
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This smells like scheme banning... just like on CS:GO tourneys they ban maps
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Get out from this thread rip please
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Get out from this thread rip please
yep i too love you
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Have separate leagues? Novice League & Pro League?
Novice League consist of: Roper, Team17, Pro, Hysteria & Big RR.
Pro League: BnG, Elite, Normal and TTRR.
Get certain amount of points from Novice League to qualify to partake in Pro League.
Or just have a league where little schemes are available?
Of course, all other leagues needs to be terminated and stored in archives.
This poll is very subjective.
This is a nice idea, i think some previous league worked this way, unfortunately the amount of players to make it work too low.
Randomize scheme pick, go to tus, click on random scheme and then tus picks one for both players. The scheme will be on pending mode until both have played it. You would need the permission of your opponent to do this.
Other words: Players choice of scheme is taken away.
Hmm... this one sounds actually weird. I'd like to have at least the freedom to pick whatever i want at least.
To make it clear by the way, all the first three options in the poll count as a yes.
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Get out from this thread rip please
+1 :D
Have separate leagues? Novice League & Pro League?
Novice League consist of: Roper, Team17, Pro, Hysteria & Big RR.
Pro League: BnG, Elite, Normal and TTRR.
Get certain amount of points from Novice League to qualify to partake in Pro League.
Or just have a league where little schemes are available?
Of course, all other leagues needs to be terminated and stored in archives.
This poll is very subjective.
This is a nice idea, i think some previous league worked this way, unfortunately the amount of players to make it workis too low.
ye, that's good idea :)
But other schemes IMO:
Novice League consist of: Roper, Team17, Hysteria, shoppa, aerial
Pro League: BnG, Elite, Normal, TTRR, wxw
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And league for avoiders. Chelsea will be boss. xD
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And league for avoiders. Chelsea will be boss. xD
There will be also a league for idiots like you who picks shopper at clanners
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so many son of a bitches here in tus :O anyway. pls stop this topic, u are all avoider here, all of u, only chelsea is real pro
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There will be also a league for idiots like you who picks shopper at clanners
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213858/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213600/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213278/
Hello TdC & AeF ^^
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Ye stop this topic now coz i will say something not nice if you keep saying bullshits about aef
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Yeah, we don't need to say what everyone here is thinking about people that pick shopper.
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Sbaffo sbaffo you little angry whore. Epic
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Hey tomi - what does league game searcher do on snooper? I tried to use it but it seems like it doesnt work.
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@sbaffo, @rip,
Keep the conversation clean please.
*warned.
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zZzZzZzZzZzZzZz, people whining hard for earning just 10$... fssssh.
Edit:- 10$ per 5 months.
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MI easy. What not so with this guy? He cannot speaking how man, he all time crying on every topic. Chelsea better then him in 1000 more. Yep, Chelsea avoiding me on tus and what? This is game, and this guy all time angry and crying. All novices know if game not was started you cannot report free win. If I waited knightz or other player 40 min and before start game in lobby he left game coz not want or need g2g, indifferently. What with this? This is game was maked for fun priority. Wake uppppp. PS: in my text 0% angry :)
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Ohhh, I fotgot about TaG, in PO clanner was 2-2 and their decide pick was... SHOPPA! :-D
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213184/
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MI easy. What not so with this guy? He cannot speaking how man, he all time crying on every topic. Chelsea better then him in 1000 more. Yep, Chelsea avoiding me on tus and what? This is game, and this guy all time angry and crying. All novices know if game not was started you cannot report free win. If I waited knightz or other player 40 min and before start game in lobby he left game coz not want or need g2g, indifferently. What with this? This is game was maked for fun priority. Wake uppppp. PS: in my text 0% angry :)
BECAUSE
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f@#!ING
LEAGUE
The story that you wrote has nothing to do with what happened to me sorry. The point of this whole topic (something that most of people haven't understood yet) is how tus rules are broken and sensless. Please think twice and learn some english before coming here to post meaningless freakshow bullshits...
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Sbaffo meaningles is a your theme. If this is f@#!ING league for you, maybe you better back in dota?
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Ohhh, I fotgot about TaG, in PO clanner was 2-2 and their decide pick was... SHOPPA! :-D
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213184/
And you mate, what you have vs shoppa? Shoppa was your favorite sheme... Heh
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I don't have anything against shoppa! :) I just wnana show fact, picking shoppa in clanner is ok.
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I don't think point reduction will help. Free wins do the same thing. harpy doesn't care if his Roper points are reduced to -1000. He will be just happy if he can avoid Roper without gifting free wins. People who game the system won't uncheck Roper. They will get their Roper points from noobs as before and avoid top players as much as they can. Not much changes.
Free wins could be given at least in cases like harpy's so we wouldn't have these frustrating situations where people first look for tus and then start banning schemes depending on the opponent. If you want to ban a scheme, you should do it before you know your opponent.
Player A: tus anyone?
Player B: me tus
Player A: no roper ok? -> tus confirmed. If you leave, the opponent can report a free win and you have one week to play the game.
Player A: tus anyone?
Player B: me tus, join
*Player A joins the game lobby* -> tus confirmed. If you leave, free win.
There's already this
Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
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Sbaffo meaningles is a your theme. If this is f@#!ING league for you, maybe you better back in dota?
No, it's for everyone. :) I'm not the only who thinks it so.
Player A: tus anyone?
Player B: me tus
Player A: no roper ok? -> tus confirmed. If you leave, the opponent can report a free win and you have one week to play the game.
This one can be easily abused:
Random son of a bitch: tus anyone?
Sbaffo: me tus
Random son of a bitch: no ttrr ok?
And then some hours later the same son of a bitch will pick ttrr against someone that's less experienced. Why should that be allowed? Lots of people do it.
There's already this
Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
Aight, he accepted tus and then told me that he didn't play tus roper just right when i picked it. This should mean that i'm allowed to report it, right?
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summarize. Almost all the players want to get points without doing anything for it, whether it is a free win or choise scheme in which the opponent has no chance. such as old school ttrr against average Roper. it was and always will be. I is not particularly worried.
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summarize. Almost all the players want to get points without doing anything for it, whether it is a free win or choise scheme in which the opponent has no chance. such as old school ttrr against average Roper. it was and always will be. I is not particularly worried.
can you rephrase it please?
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Sbaffo meaningles is a your theme. If this is f@#!ING league for you, maybe you better back in dota?
No, it's for everyone. :) I'm not the only who thinks it so.
Player A: tus anyone?
Player B: me tus
Player A: no roper ok? -> tus confirmed. If you leave, the opponent can report a free win and you have one week to play the game.
This one can be easily abused:
Random son of a bitch: tus anyone?
Sbaffo: me tus
Random son of a bitch: no ttrr ok?
And then some hours later the same son of a bitch will pick ttrr against someone that's less experienced. Why should that be allowed? Lots of people do it.
There's already this
Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
Aight, he accepted tus and then told me that he didn't play tus roper just right when i picked it. This should mean that i'm allowed to report it, right?
the only thing that can really ban, is to avoid players. If you play the league, you have to play with everyone. but and with this
I especially do not worry.
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summarize. Almost all the players want to get points without doing anything for it, whether it is a free win or choise scheme in which the opponent has no chance. such as old school ttrr against average Roper. it was and always will be. I is not particularly worried.
can you rephrase it please?
You want have 100% win vs all novices and medium players and will have risky only in our pick. Is a crap but this is your style playing in league. I don't care. You can do what you want.
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summarize. Almost all the players want to get points without doing anything for it, whether it is a free win or choise scheme in which the opponent has no chance. such as old school ttrr against average Roper. it was and always will be. I is not particularly worried.
can you rephrase it please?
You want have 100% win vs all novices and medium players and will have risky only in our pick. Is a crap but this is your style playing in league. I don't care. You can do what you want.
And what did you expect?? Hahahaha The point of a league is to fight to reach the best position and to win as much as you can, what kind of f@#!ing league have you all been playing?? Hauhauahauahia league of pussies??
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This one can be easily abused:
Random son of a bitch: tus anyone?
Sbaffo: me tus
Random son of a bitch: no ttrr ok?
And then some hours later the same son of a bitch will pick ttrr against someone that's less experienced. Why should that be allowed? Lots of people do it.
What do you mean? I said you could report a free win in a case like this.
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This one can be easily abused:
Random son of a bitch: tus anyone?
Sbaffo: me tus
Random son of a bitch: no ttrr ok?
And then some hours later the same son of a bitch will pick ttrr against someone that's less experienced. Why should that be allowed? Lots of people do it.
What do you mean? I said you could report a free win in a case like this.
This was the main topic of the point. People should not be able to decide whether scheme should be played or not in a league with 8 schemes. Has anyone got this motherf@#!ing point? I won't repeat it again.
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summarize. Almost all the players want to get points without doing anything for it, whether it is a free win or choise scheme in which the opponent has no chance. such as old school ttrr against average Roper. it was and always will be. I is not particularly worried.
can you rephrase it please?
You want have 100% win vs all novices and medium players and will have risky only in our pick. Is a crap but this is your style playing in league. I don't care. You can do what you want.
And what did you expect?? Hahahaha The point of a league is to fight to reach the best position and to win as much as you can, what kind of f@#!ing league have you all been playing?? Hauhauahauahia league of pussies??
I do not have as much time as were at your age. are you ready to be killed myself, cry and complain about a dozen times a day, just to be on the higher position. This behavior is worthy of the child.
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Has anyone got this motherf@#!ing point? I won't repeat it again.
Didn't I just propose that you could report a free win in further cases like harpy's? If you look for tus and then say "no ttrr ok?", you have accepted tus and you must play ttrr or whatever. No IFs after you find an opponent.
There's already this
Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
Aight, he accepted tus and then told me that he didn't play tus roper just right when i picked it. This should mean that i'm allowed to report it, right?
Don't think so.
People are free to play the schemes they want. If you play their pick and then they refuse your pick, it will be avoiding. In this case, nothing happened. They asked your pick and refused to play clanner. Many people already do that if they know their opponent pick is BnG.
Forcing a rule otherwise, will make people hand out free wins.
well so gonna be ok if i ask for clanner, some clan agree and i ask for their pick.. and if i dont have the right partner for this sheme i can just avoid it? you wanna make me clear this is ok?
You can play the scheme you want. You can ask "clanner Team17 anyone?" and only play Team17. It is based on agreement. You CAN'T refuse your opponent's pick when they have played yours. But before the start of the games, yes you can talk to them to reach an agreement.
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These guys that can't manage to master every scheme is a disrespect for people that practice harder to achieve it, if I was the admin here noone would be able to play if one can't or refuse to play certain scheme, I mean serisouly guys, if you can't play all the LEAGUE schemes why would play it at all? Makes no sense, actually this makes more no sense that they are allowed to do it and abuse it. This is not a league, this is a playground.
There's no big impact here for changes, we would need support from old allrounders that were top ranking in the past overall, this topic is a noobfest right now, lul.
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Has anyone got this motherf@#!ing point? I won't repeat it again.
Didn't I just propose that you could report a free win in further cases like harpy's? If you look for tus and then say "no ttrr ok?", you have accepted tus and you must play ttrr or whatever. No IFs after you find an opponent.
There's already this
Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
Aight, he accepted tus and then(AFTER REALIZING WHAT I WAS PICKING) told me that he didn't play tus roper just right when i picked it. This should mean that i'm allowed to report it, right?
Don't think so. (????????????????????????)
People are free to play the schemes they want. If you play their pick and then they refuse your pick, it will be avoiding. In this case, nothing happened. They asked your pick and refused to play clanner. Many people already do that if they know their opponent pick is BnG. (Aight this is the rule, meanwhile you've just stated the opposite by quoting this rule)
Forcing a rule otherwise, will make people hand out free wins.
well so gonna be ok if i ask for clanner, some clan agree and i ask for their pick.. and if i dont have the right partner for this sheme i can just avoid it? you wanna make me clear this is ok?
You can play the scheme you want. You can ask "clanner Team17 anyone?" and only play Team17. It is based on agreement. You CAN'T refuse your opponent's pick when they have played yours. But before the start of the games, yes you can talk to them to reach an agreement.
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These guys that can't manage to master every scheme is a disrespect for people that practice harder to achieve it, if I was the admin here noone would be able to play if one can't or refuse to play certain scheme, I mean serisouly guys, if you can't play all the LEAGUE schemes why would play it at all? Makes no sense, actually this makes more no sense that they are allowed to do it and abuse it. This is not a league, this is a playground.
There's no big impact here for changes, we would need support from old allrounders that were top ranking in the past overall, this topic is a noobfest right now, lul.
One of the few posts I've read in this topic..Good one!
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Really wanted to avoid these forums, but feel the need to copy this from shoutbox to this thread as I feel it's relevant.
The problem is nobody really likes WA anymore, sad truth :(
There are thousands of players, the vast majority of which are casual time to time players who play solely for fun, then there are maybe 100 active regular players ranging from 5+ years of playing, most of these guys are bored now, then there are guys like you, who are completely addicted to WA only just now reaching your peak of skill, while most players reached their peak 10 years ago lol
There are still many players, but they are interested in their favourite schemes only because of limited time
There are only a handful of people who spend their whole day everyday wanting to play WA, and for them it's easy to play all schemes, but guys who play only 1-2 hours each day, want to spend THAT time doing the thing they enjoy most, that's why it's called luxury not mandatory
I understand how frustrated Sbaffo is, but the unfortunate truth is, calling people cowards etc is selfish and negative, nobody wants to associate with negative people.
You cannot simply demand activity and competition out of thin air
The game has to have enough people who actually enjoy that aspect 1st, and we don't :/
Can you even name 10 people off the top of your head, without looking at names, who play same hours as you and enjoys WA as much as you?
That is the 1st problem, forget TUS, we lack players with a passion for the game similar to yours to begin with
And no wonder, they come on TUS, see oldschool players acting like bitter fools(myself included) and lose interest in the game cuz they see us as a pathetic community of whingy bitches...
Starting working together, show the outside world this community has more to offer than insults, grudges and cheating, show them we are kind, fun people to hang out with, THEN, and ONLY THEN, people may show interest again.
Tehe alternative is, waste your time here, or find something else to do with your life :/
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Sbaffo, the current practice is that you don't get a free win (see the quote of MI). I wrote how the rule could be changed for future cases. Got it?
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Rofl @ 4th option for vote xD
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The Komodo 100% right.
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If there are action to be taken to this entire situation.
I would suggest separate leagues, with plain design & random scheme picker.
I know a lot of you don't appreciate mole shopper, hell, even I don't. But this scheme is popular whenever you like it or not, and having such scheme in novice league could boost the overall league activity. This could divide the player base and issues that novice and experienced players have with each others.
Both leagues should have maximum of 4 schemes, NL: Mole Shopper, Team17, Normal & Big RR. These are the schemes I would think of that are less avoided and most popular. Schemes like Roper, WxW, Elite, BnG and TTRR are more intimidating for beginners and casuals, so therefore it would make sense to have them in Pro League.
The way for this to succeed is to have a dedicated page for this league, with plain English, design, easy to work around, because this is the world we live in now, it needs to be simple. TuS is nice and all, but it is sort of confusing and sophisticated.
People shouldn't be able to choose their schemes except maybe Playoffs. I know this isn't a popular choice either, but it could help alleviate the choosing the scheme process, avoiding, and drama. Scheme Picker will pick a scheme, and if that scheme isn't played, you will not be able to play more games with that person until the game the scheme picker picked will be played.
To enter Pro League, you will need to PM a moderators, and the moderators will evaluate your position, reputation, and perhaps your NL league statistic.
This way, pro league will have hardcore passionate players such as Sbaffo. The number might be smaller and more manageable.
Of course, if this is to work, it would require a lot of effort on design, and promotion on WormNET.
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Came here for the Kradie post, was triggered as expected. 10/10
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To enter Pro League, you will need to PM a moderators, and the moderators will evaluate your position, reputation, and perhaps your NL league statistic.
This way, pro league will have hardcore passionate players such as Sbaffo. The number might be smaller and more manageable.
Oh I'm sure senator and MI would love to do this.
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Lol.. Yeah Kradie, MI will give this community more of his free time on daily basis, just because few players are more passionate than others ;)
They're so full of this site, I tried to donate few times last month and no one of mods even bothered to make it happen haha :)
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I want to see your face Kradie. Where is yr photo?
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There's always been activity issue with TUS. It started at 2008, several years after the game release and after many other leagues. In fact TUS united the community when it was torn apart. TUS is 8 years old now too.
The activity problem, led us into setting up rules trying to keep activity as much as possible. While concepts like "this league has 8 schemes" are completely valid, but it brings problems where activity is at stake. I'll list some of them: (not my opinion, just listing what happened to TUS so far)
- When someone do not like to play, they'll hand out free wins. It's still a game in a free league. People are looking to have fun. Some of them just don't enjoy playing an hour-long BnG match. We've had this. Then counter argument was "player A's position in standings is fake because of free wins fake points".
- Players who liked to play a single scheme, ultimately abandoned the league. They didn't like to play it in funners, because they wanted their opponents to be trying their best. So a league match had the challenge but in league they had to play another scheme that they didn't like.
- Disagreements on TUS, led to senseless free wins and complaint threads. Some players started reporting free wins over one line. I asked for TUS, he said "me" but didn't join my game.
TUS has a cup system. There are fixed players in a cup, they must arrange their matches and avoiding is not an option. If a player avoid, they will be giving free wins automatically.
TUS leagues has a different system, that's because it is based on whoever is available. This makes players to meet all kinds of opponents. Different ages and different personalities. Some players do not find any fun with certain opponents and try to avoid them as much as possible. I've done that myself. I remember I just didn't like some wormer's attitude and I just skipped him. But this also makes room for people to avoid better players or to avoid for other reasons.
But at the end of every league season, comes the playoffs. No matter how someone avoid certain schemes/players, in playoffs there will be no avoiding of any kind.
I think the current "agreement" rule is OK. It's not perfect, but overall it works.
@Kradie, There's just not enough activity to split the league into two divisions. We're having activity issues with one division at the moment.
@Sensei, Paypal is blocked in my country. The Paypal donation button on TUS belonged to DarkOne, he did me a favor and allowed TUS to use his own personal Paypal account to receive donations. After DarkOne got inactive, I couldn't use his account and asked a few people around and they all kindly rejected. I'm totally OK with that, there's no need to make a fuss out of it.
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@Sensei, Paypal is blocked in my country. The Paypal donation button on TUS belonged to DarkOne, he did me a favor and allowed TUS to use his own personal Paypal account to receive donations. After DarkOne got inactive, I couldn't use his account and asked a few people around and they all kindly rejected. I'm totally OK with that, there's no need to make a fuss out of it.
I PM'ed you alborz, would be willing to help do your money laundering
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@Sensei, Paypal is blocked in my country. The Paypal donation button on TUS belonged to DarkOne, he did me a favor and allowed TUS to use his own personal Paypal account to receive donations. After DarkOne got inactive, I couldn't use his account and asked a few people around and they all kindly rejected. I'm totally OK with that, there's no need to make a fuss out of it.
I PM'ed you alborz, would be willing to help do your money laundering
Why don't you get a bitcoin wallet?
On topic: Sbaffo, I so understand you but this is not a perfect world and there will always be some players that like to take the easy path. You are a good honorable player, you are unique, but not everybody has the same mindset than you. I used to noobash in my early years and I learnt there is no joy in achieving anything that way. Let people learn that lesson by themselves and hope for a change.
Stop caring! At the end of the day we are talking about some dope worms doing crazy stuff on a rope and shooting zookas off their asses.
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I never made paypal. Was wondering can I transfer money on some account over visa electron card?
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Then counter argument was "player A's position in standings is fake because of free wins fake points".
I don't think this is a problem. When you hand out a free win, you would have probably lost the game anyway. Usually people don't pick a scheme they are worse at, and people don't give a free win when they have a decent chance to win.
harpy might have accepted Roper against a worse player (which seemed to be the case cos he said he can't win Sbaffo in Roper) so it's kinda stupid he can openly look for tus and start banning schemes only when he finds out who is his opponent. Of course avoiders can always send "tus?" PMs to noobs and "tus defaults?" PMs to top players instead of open "tus anyone" but at least we could get rid of these clear avoiding situations like Sbaffo's and harpy's.
But at the end of every league season, comes the playoffs. No matter how someone avoid certain schemes/players, in playoffs there will be no avoiding of any kind.
The problem is that you can get the advantage of picking 3 of 5 schemes in the playoffs by avoiding certain schemes/players during the season.
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the problem is that there are too many spoiled nerds here around. 2 good slaps when you were younger by mommy and daddy would have solved these issues. This topic is the result of the lack of education you had when you were children.
"the ball is mine, I decide! gn gn gn gn gn"
Ma vaffanculo
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the problem is that there are too many spoiled nerds here around. 2 good slaps when you were younger by mommy and daddy would have solved these issues. This topic is the result of the lack of education you had when you were children.
"the ball is mine, I decide! gn gn gn gn gn"
Ma vaffanculo
lmao!
Maybe it is time to everyone leave WA and go play Worms WMD? :D :D :D
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that's a bad joke nino ;d
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the problem is that there are too many spoiled nerds here around. 2 good slaps when you were younger by mommy and daddy would have solved these issues. This topic is the result of the lack of education you had when you were children.
"the ball is mine, I decide! gn gn gn gn gn"
Ma vaffanculo
Too little slap
Not enough bunga
Berlusconiiiiiiiiii
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that's a bad joke nino ;d
what if it's actually a brilliant idea?
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WMD needs Intel Core i3, and I can't even play this WMD with supreme lags on my PC (Coz I got Core 2 Duo).
So, not brilliant idea for weaklings (like me). xD
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- When someone do not like to play, they'll hand out free wins. It's still a game in a free league. People are looking to have fun. Some of them just don't enjoy playing an hour-long BnG match. We've had this. Then counter argument was "player A's position in standings is fake because of free wins fake points".
BnG can be done quicker if atleast one of the players is good
inb4: thanks, captain
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WMD needs Intel Core i3, and I can't even play this WMD with supreme lags on my PC (Coz I got Core 2 Duo).
So, not brilliant idea for weaklings (like me). xD
I played WMD on old pc (intel core duo, 2.0 ghz).
It ran smoothly. Don't believe everything you see in minimum requirements. Try it out first.
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yea, WA minimum requirements on Steam make me lol
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In fact one problem, and this problem in you all. Players of league are not as many as five years ago, or in others active years. But they will not anymore. If come 1 or 2 new players in league if lucky, the same 1 or 2 other players and leave league in a couple of months. Try to change not rules for a loved yourself. Try to change their behavior and start to think soberly. Start playing with all and stop all the time to complain on the forum. Go on meeting for some of the players. Be a friendly, stop saying bad things to other players. And if all who play the league right now will play with all, without exception, the free players for the league will be enough. You can even increase the limit for a single pair of games from 15 to 20.
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https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/(solved)-game-108664-fake-free-win-14679/ (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/(solved)-game-108664-fake-free-win-14679/)
Hey MI, your system works well as i see, this happened 4 years ago and we still have problems like this!
I do hope TUS comes up with a better solution lol