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Leagues => Leagues Playoffs => Topic started by: TheKomodo on July 11, 2010, 02:00 PM
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I am making a new thread with this, because no one is threatening anyone else, no one is even swearing or using extreme insults, I see worse debates on TV with professional politicians being mor einsulting and using more vulgor language.
We are keeping this more civilised than practically any other thread with a heated debate like this so there is absolutely NO need to close and lock this thread, we are NOT kids, we do NOT need your petty supervision ok?
If you choose to lock this again when theres nothing even wrong, then you lose my respect as a friend, you can at least let CF answer my question:
CF, can you PLEASE try and clan us (CKC) a bit more please?
Edit here:
Oh and D1/MI etc, what about the idea a few of us mentioned about raising the win percentage and or the amount of games needed to qualify, can we have a vote or something?
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Komo, could you see stop with the cf case. They can read, they understood your point, there's no need to continu spaming them. The only thing you will win is getting avoided because they won't enjoy play with you (or feel like it). More over, sending pm for this kind of discution is imo better than general loud.
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Oh and D1/MI etc, what about the idea a few of us mentioned about raising the win percentage and or the amount of games needed to qualify, can we have a vote or something?
As I said before, I think the clanner league is enough active to increase the number of game requiered per season. I'd like to hear what think some clan league moderators.
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this is true, clan doH too not only tdc -.-
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Well I don't see why zipp, darKz personally knows i'm a generally nice bloke to play, I don't spam ingame etc or insult, anyway, can we progress with the actual vote thing?
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If you choose to lock this again when theres nothing even wrong, then you lose my respect as a friend, you can at least let CF answer my question:
I locked it because I felt an everybody-vs-CF thread served no purpose other than to annoy people (mostly CF).
to quote zippeurfou:
Komo, could you see stop with the cf case. They can read, they understood your point, there's no need to continu spaming them. The only thing you will win is getting avoided because they won't enjoy play with you (or feel like it). More over, sending pm for this kind of discution is imo better than general loud.
MI is the one in charge of the league, so only he can answer what to will happen to the league.
Did you mean winning percentage as a key requirement or as the main reason for qualifying at all?
I personally feel winning percentage shouldn't count for the reason mentioned in the other thread, but my opinion could of course be wrong entirely :)
As for the minimum amount of games required: I don't know. What would you feel is a reasonable number?
And keep in mind: of the 20 clans that played in season 13, only 8 played more than 60 games.
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Yeah D1 only 8 did, but 8 is good, and should be the best 4 of those 8 that make the final cut.
I think 100 games is fair, 100 games in like 45 days, is easy, more than easy, thats more or less 2 games a day and a few days 3-4, SO easy, if you can't manage that then somethings wrong lol.
I think the winning percentage should be at least 60%
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100 too much imo...
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If 100 games had been the minimum, then 5 clans would've been eligible for the playoffs in season 13.
edit: if you also include the 60% winning ratio, then 2 of those clans would no longer be eligible (including TdC, but we both know they deserved their playoff spot)
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Yes but remember a few clans are playing the minimum amount of games required for playoffs, if you raise it, they will play more.
60% is fine, alot of clans do 60+ every season.
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edit: if you also include the 60% winning ratio, then 2 of those clans would no longer be eligible (including TdC, but we both know they deserved their playoff spot)
if they did not get atleast 60% then maybe they dont deserve the spot... but thats just my opinion...
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What avi said, I honestly think this is justified, and i'm not just saying that because CKC always get at least 60% it's true, a clan that deserves playoffs should meet high requirements, after all it's supposed to be the best clans who make it isn't it?
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Well, imo raisin the win percentage is not that good. This will just increase the noob bashing + avoiding.
But the max number of game is good. 100 game is not that much. There are some clan who seems to play the minimum number of game to reach po in order to keep their rating (as some may suggest). If you increase the number of game they'll have to play more and i'm sure they will :).
I think, it's worth testing. We are in vacation period if you can get clan play that much, this mean they'll be able to play that much at any time during the year :).
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Thanks for the input zipp, i'm glad we're finally getting somewhere, can we make this an official post?
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As zipp stated, increasing 50% will bring us noob bashing and avoiding. But I guess we can make number of games up to 80 games.
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Can we at least try 90 MI?
Either way, thank you.
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100 would be ok imo
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Anyone else? Please give your input on 100 games per season.
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50%
100
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I vote for 500! No, lets make 1000!
gj komo, spaming every hour works. Are u happy now?
IMO increasing the amount of games wont make TUS more active. Some Clans just will give up coz some guys even has a real life and cant play every day 2-3 clanner. Number of played clanners will be going down. Only the single modus will be active like always.
And in a few days Worm Olympics will starts. But at least, Komo won the "Whine-Contest".
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I vote for 500! No, lets make 1000!
gj komo, spaming every hour works. Are u happy now?
IMO increasing the amount of games wont make TUS more active. Some Clans just will give up coz some guys even has a real life and cant play every day 2-3 clanner. Number of played clanners will be going down. Only the single modus will be active like always.
And in a few days Worm Olympics will starts. But at least, Komo won the "Whine-Contest".
Please spw stay correct :).
I agree that 100 might be a bit too much. Komo, we have to concider that CKC and TdC are like the two most active clan in wn with the most players. What seems easy for us to reach is not the case of every clan. A clan like doh or cf has a lot less member and for example cf plays only when they got their squad on.
Nevertheless, I think 80 game is reachable for them. The question is: Is increasing the number of game by 20 will change anything ?
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atm it is 70/50. (singles/clanners)
We were gonna increase it anyway. But 100 is too much.
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atm it is 70/50. (singles/clanners)
We were gonna increase it anyway. But 100 is too much.
it is not
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I think 80 or 90 is about right.
We can always up it to 100 later.
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Well 100 is not too much if you look at season 13 standings,
5 clans played 100 games, and other 3 clans weren't far off.
Season 12, 3 clans played 100, and 5 were within 10-20 games off,
Season 11, 6 clans played over 100, most way over,
And if you notice, I am SERIOUSLY NOT trying to provoke CF here, I swear down on my grandfathers grave, But CF always play the minimum to make playoffs, I seriously think raising to 100 games and at least 6 clans will make the requirements.
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but Komo, everything is too relative, ask Einstein.
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but Komo, everything is too relative, ask Einstein.
Lol, your English is too good now :( You were so funny when it wasn't as good lol
But good improvement :)
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Thanks komo, worms had to be useful for something than hauhauhau and have a lot of fun playing with you guys porra!. 8)
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but Komo, everything is too relative, ask Einstein.
Lol, your English is too good now :( You were so funny when it wasn't as good lol
But good improvement :)
was that so wise? XDDDDDDDDDD
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Me and nino know each other he knows what I mean lol
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Me and nino know each other he knows what I mean lol
also i know what both mean, lmao
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I vote for 500! No, lets make 1000!
gj komo, spaming every hour works. Are u happy now?
IMO increasing the amount of games wont make TUS more active. Some Clans just will give up coz some guys even has a real life and cant play every day 2-3 clanner. Number of played clanners will be going down. Only the single modus will be active like always.
And in a few days Worm Olympics will starts. But at least, Komo won the "Whine-Contest".
spw... i see atleast 1-2 CF guyz in AG everytime i go on.. lol... ckc has far more members, and im more likely to see a CF then i am a CKC guy in ag.. but thats besides the point... i think it should be 80-100 game limit, and i also think atleast 60% winns.. thats realy not much to ask...
lets look at at like this... if a clan can not get 60% in the season... whats the point of putting them into playoffs???? they need to win best of 7 vs a clan.... with 50% chance of winning.... that means u WONT win the playoffs.. why bother being there??? does this make sense?..
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I think it makes perfect sense Avi, but then again playoffs are kind of a learning experience, but I agree.
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winning percentage says nothing about the clans you beat to get that percentage, though.
Or would you say winning 40% of BnGs against (let's just pick a random example) Komo (ok, perhaps not that random!) is subpar?
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50% is easier to noob bash than 60% though.
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Winning 55% of games against the best clans still makes you one of the best clans, though :) Even if that wouldn't make you eligible for the playoffs
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but who said anything about playing the best clan? and only the best clan??? ur sposed to play EVERYONE... and as far as i have seen... all clans do play EVERY clan... CF included.. they just do it fewer and farther between...
the noob bash thing keeps being mentioned, and im not sure why... tell me if im wrong, but i have not seen any clan noob bashing.... so why is that even being mentioned??
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So, who else prefers 100 games per season?
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personally id like to see 99.
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edit: if you also include the 60% winning ratio, then 2 of those clans would no longer be eligible (including TdC, but we both know they deserved their playoff spot)
if they did not get atleast 60% then maybe they dont deserve the spot... but thats just my opinion...
You know I love you avi, but your opinion really sucks here I`m afraid! We DO deserve that playoffspot. In the beginning, TdC was struggling real hard to get active again after some years with almost TOTAL inactivity. It was hard to get the any of the members in the clan active, and even harder to recruit any new players. But with the likes of Spaazi, Ninjacamel, smokz and HHC joining the clan, and old TdC`ers like Fada, agneau and Nivman turning active again, we were once again one of the most active clans. But we sucked big time! We lost more then 60% of our games in the first seasons. We have worked hard though over a longer period of time, we got better team work, and managed to turn things around, and met the qualifications the league recuires to enter PO.
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Avirex isn't saying YOU don't deserve it mate, we just think the standards should be higher, after all this game is 11 years old, if people aren't good enough yet then what's the point?
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Well he was questioning it ;P So the standards should be higher now then they were under CL2K or FB? IMO it sounds weird, we`ve had a shift in generation at Worms, so its not certain the level is any higher now then back then. Few players plays for 11 years in a row...
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Avirex isn't saying YOU don't deserve it mate
He totally is.
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No he isn't D1 man, he's isn't specifically saying TdC don't deserve to be in playoffs, he's just saying about what I proposed.
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No, not specifically, but if you're saying
if they did not get atleast 60% then maybe they dont deserve the spot...
and TdC had 52.44% winning percentage, then you are saying they don't deserve the spot.
If you're saying <60% doesn't deserve to qualify but then say that a clan that actually does score lower than 60% deserves to qualify, then you're just making exceptions.
So either he totally is saying they didn't deserve it or he doesn't stand behind the qualification requirements he's proposing. You be the decider.
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But you are making it out like we hate TdC, that is far from the truth, don't twist our words, we just think the rating should be higher, obviously they deserve it because they met requirements this season, don't be silly lol...
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they deserve that spot just as much as we dont... if u get my drift.
the system is just f@#!ed :D
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But you are making it out like we hate TdC, that is far from the truth, don't twist our words, we just think the rating should be higher, obviously they deserve it because they met requirements this season, don't be silly lol...
No, I'm not making it out like you hate TdC and I would like it you didn't twist my words.
They didn't meet the requirements *you* think should be held. I'm just pointing out the logical consequence of your suggestions.
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ye 100 games is fine for me, so CF will please ckc and doh and tag and cC and other clans to clan them rofl -.-
and the league will let tdc get into playoffs much more than it was before, so I'm cool with 100 games
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But you are making it out like we hate TdC, that is far from the truth, don't twist our words, we just think the rating should be higher, obviously they deserve it because they met requirements this season, don't be silly lol...
No, I'm not making it out like you hate TdC and I would like it you didn't twist my words.
They didn't meet the requirements *you* think should be held. I'm just pointing out the logical consequence of your suggestions.
No offense mate but for a mod you are pretty dumb... Or close minded at least, We said it's what we feel the requirements should be from NOW ON, we are NOT saying they don't deserve to be in these playoffs, what is your problem? For someone who claims to try and stop flamewars n stuff, you are not doing a very good job of it right now, what is wrong with you, stop provoking us and making it out that we don't think they deserve their spot which we've already said THEY DO...
The logical consequence of what I said, is what I have already explained, which is in future terms not past, seriously, i'm seriously asking you to start reading my posts twice and think about what I have wrote because you are starting to make me look bad for no reason, since you are a mod, the sheep will follow you, don't do this please...
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If you can't be bothered to actually take my post literally instead of trying to be the victim here, I see little point in going on with this.
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If you can't be bothered to actually take my post literally instead of trying to be the victim here, I see little point in going on with this.
Just, lol man... And I quote from wormf00d here:
"There must be a language barrier"
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komo, u can start, instant of avoing us play us.. easy
so 'take this seriosly now' means less games and more carfully? that what u complaning with CF!!! shame on you
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komo, u can start, instant of avoing us play us.. easy
so 'take this seriosly now' means less games and more carfully? that what u complaning with CF!!! shame on you
What? Tiago seriously, that isn't what I said, I said I TAKE clanners more seriously, I didn't say I avoid anyone or anything, CKC clanned ALL DAY yesterday I played and won about 12 clanners yesterday myself, and others more, I am just tired on clanning for one day, whats the big deal, we played bOr like 8 games yesterday lol.
Stop trying to spread rumours and act your age man...
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u wanted play funner 2v2 instand of clanner, thats avoindign us, as u said u were taking clanner more seriosly, that was the reason
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u wanted play funner 2v2 instand of clanner, thats avoindign us, as u said u were taking clanner more seriosly, that was the reason
Aw piss off Tiago, your just making stuff up, how the hell can we possibly avoid you when I played you like 4-5 times yesterday and others play you more?
Am I not allowed to enjoy a simple funner now and again?
Stop being an idiot, jus cuz I left bOr...
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u wanted play funner 2v2 instand of clanner, thats avoindign us, as u said u were taking clanner more seriosly, that was the reason
Aw piss off Tiago, your just making stuff up, how the hell can we possibly avoid you when I played you like 4-5 times yesterday and others play you more?
Stop being an idiot, jus cuz I left bOr...
calm ur ass, im not being idiot cose u left us, glad u did it, since u only lose clanners there and was alwys war with my baby nail, but thats is other deal, leave it out of this!
thing is that u avoind us, u wanted funner with us, devilage was about to play clanner and u not.. so that maybe what CF feels!
u're doing the same, and u didnt played me yesterday not 6 not 1 time..
so in my eyes this complain dnt make any sense, u are the same
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komo, u can start, instant of avoing us play us.. easy
so 'take this seriosly now' means less games and more carfully? that what u complaning with CF!!! shame on you
rofl same here, dibz told me beer also ignores dibz now just cus he left bor lol.
for beer ppl who left bor doesn't count
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komo, u can start, instant of avoing us play us.. easy
so 'take this seriosly now' means less games and more carfully? that what u complaning with CF!!! shame on you
rofl same here, dibz told me beer also ignores dibz now just cus he left bor lol.
for beer ppl who left bor doesn't count
dibz is just mad cose lost 2 elites with me..
ps, stop off topic crash, its avout playing clanners, not about me.
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Is it time to lock this thread too? ???
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u wanted play funner 2v2 instand of clanner, thats avoindign us, as u said u were taking clanner more seriosly, that was the reason
Aw piss off Tiago, your just making stuff up, how the hell can we possibly avoid you when I played you like 4-5 times yesterday and others play you more?
Stop being an idiot, jus cuz I left bOr...
calm ur ass, im not being idiot cose u left us, glad u did it, since u only lose clanners there and was alwys war with my baby nail, but thats is other deal, leave it out of this!
thing is that u avoind us, u wanted funner with us, devilage was about to play clanner and u not.. so that maybe what CF feels!
u're doing the same, and u didnt played me yesterday not 6 not 1 time..
so in my eyes this complain dnt make any sense, u are the same
Nah seriously, your just being a little jealous kid man, you were all emotional n sht with me on MSN begging me to stay in bOr and not to leave, and then when I did you gave me ALOT of crap on MSN telling me i'm a dick etc just cuz I leave and then join CKC.
I didn't only lose in bOr, I won more games than you ever will, and I never played you cuz you never play, I hardly ever see you play clanners, i've played more clanners in last 12 months than you have in your life, I JUST got onto wormnet and asked for a funner before I even KNEW that you were trying to get a clanner, so don't make crap up.
Why would I avoid you when statistics show we beat you mostly, and i'm not trying to say you suck or anything, but if we win like 70-80% of games with bOr, why would we avoid you? It just doesn't make sense, you are being a petty little kid with an attitude problem trying to make me look bad.
Can we get back onto the point of this subject please, if you have a problem with me beer, talk to me in MSN or PM me, leave this subject for what it really is, I stopped commenting about CF, i'm trying to be serious here so drop it.
If you still don't understand, or if you REALLY think I would avoid you, then whatever I don't care because we've played bOr a ton of times, and i've played bOr more than most clans, so I actually have PROOF that you are talking crap...
I left bOr and joined another clan, get over it, the rest of bOr are still cool with me, why can't you be?
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Anyone else agree with 100 games per season for clanner playoffs?
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ill not do offtopic and show how cool and skilled I am.
just play us when we ask, thats the way to have 100 games played for season
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ill not do offtopic and show how cool and skilled I am.
just play us when we ask, thats the way to have 100 games played for season
Dude, seriously, 1st time i've said no to clan you ! i'm just having a day off from clanners because I played like 14 hours clanning yesterday... lol
We will play next time or something...
Anyway, WHO ELSE thinks 100 games? lol
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100 is too much.
is it 50 or 70 at moment? 70 / 80 is fine but still abit too high. 45 days seasons remember, not 60 days.
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Wtf Chick, you said to me 60/70 wasn't enough...
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Chicken, wanna join CF?
xD
It's 50 currently and personally I wouldn't mind it being 60 or 70. But imo 100 is a bit over the top.
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Chicken, wanna join CF?
Good one :)
We'll go for 90/80, we can always increase the number. (90 singles, 80 clanners)
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80 is fine, thank you MI and I hope everyone enjoys it.
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Are the current 16 single places taking effect this month?
How are we going to seed the 6 / 10 ratio?
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yes they will, but I haven't seed them yet. But this is first thign came to my mind:
1 Overall vs 10 overall
2 Overall vs 9 overall
3 overall vs 6 seasonal
4 overall vs 5 seasonal
5 overall vs 4 seasonal
6 overall vs 3 seasonal
7 overall vs 2 seasonal
8 overall vs 1 seasonal
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1 Overall vs 6 seasonal
2 Overall vs 5 seasonal
3 overall vs 4 seasonal
4 overall vs 3 seasonal
5 overall vs 2 seasonal
6 overall vs 1 seasonal
7 overall vs 10 overall
8 overall vs 9 overall
IMO, because the overall opponents are tougher than seasonal opponents. You usually seed the best player with the supposedly worst in playoffs right? As some kind of reward for their good work throughout the season. :P
Edit: Wait, do the new minimum game requirements count for this season already?
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Yea. I agree with dark
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I agree with CHicken. xD
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26 days left.. How many people are reacting 80 and 90 games?? Is this limit too high?
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So far I see 4 clans that will reach the game limit, cfc, CKC, doH and TaG (TaG not making the win % though)
I also think mm will make 80 games, I mean they have played 11 games in 2 days, actually 16 games but reset once already lol.
But few clan aren't as active this season, CF have played 2 games... whats that all about? Usually they play alot more...
Quite alot of people agreed to play more games or at least have a higher game rate, and then turn round and don't play lol, what is this rebellion lol.
Or is this just a rough season? I also think next month there will not be alot of clanners due to Holidays/Worms Olympics... And probably this month too cuz Holidays...
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But few clan aren't as active this season, CF have played 2 games... whats that all about? Usually they play alot more...
Everyone's inactive because of the heat and the weather.. Hope they'll be back to WO, which would be this night.
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But few clan aren't as active this season, CF have played 2 games... whats that all about? Usually they play alot more...
Everyone's inactive because of the heat and the weather.. Hope they'll be back to WO, which would be this night.
Actually it starts tomorrow night according to a post on T17 forums...
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Well, looking at this (http://wormolympics.com/tournaments/schedule/2010-07-24), it seems to me like it's starting at midnight (GMT) tonight.
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Well, looking at this (http://wormolympics.com/tournaments/schedule/2010-07-24), it seems to me like it's starting at midnight (GMT) tonight.
Which is tomorrow, not tonight ;)
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well, your both wrong..
komo, u said 2marrow night.. ur wrong...
darkz, u said tonight.. your wrong..
its 2marrow, first thing in the morning..
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To be precise, it's starting in 7 and a half hours from now on... ;)
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Look at all the guys trying to be smartasses. :D
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Look at all the guys trying to be smartasses. :D
I'm not trying, I'm the only one to say precise truth, only truth and nothing but the truth!! U're all owned smartasses!!! huahauhauhaa! :P
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well, your both wrong..
komo, u said 2marrow night.. ur wrong...
darkz, u said tonight.. your wrong..
its 2marrow, first thing in the morning..
Eh? This is the 23rd? at 00:00am on the 24th, IS tomorrow lol
Stop messin wit me or i'll bend you over you little naughty boy Jeff !
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These limits were far too high. 3 days left any not enough people qualified for singles or clanners.
I vote 70 for singles. 60 for clanners.
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It's because we had a drop in activity in this season.
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well.. what are we going to do if not enough people qualify??? mm is close... but everytime we are looking for clanners, we never find them!!
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The limits are too high because of Worm Olympics this month, I think mm deserve a playoff spot, but I won't suggest anything because someone will twist my words and get upset...
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Yeah you probably chose a bad time for higher limits.. I mean look at CF, we played 4 clan games this season.. Knowing we wouldn't qualify because we're too busy with WO.
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i was into the WO for about a week... then i got bored of it... was fun for that week tho... i got a gold! woowhoo
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mm will make the po's and still the people qualified in singles
but i suggest we go back to the orginals., the clan league has changed. more medium sized clans.
60/70 or 70/80 would be fine i think for next season.
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I also don't think 90 games is fair for this season. Look how its had 1000 games less than normal due to WO. Players like l7uckus, titahemp and f0rest have all had good seasons and before it was 70 games right? They deserve a spot over a player like renatonal who only has a winning prefect of 53% just because he is active.
I dont think the limits that were set for this season should be used, i think the previous ones should be encluded instead..
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I love the new limits, except like Chicken said, they shouldn't be used for this season due to WO.
But I still think 80 clans and 90 singles is perfect...
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nah, I'm totally agree with Chicken.
shhhh komo, u did some faults why u dont accept it? :-\
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nah, I'm totally agree with Chicken.
shhhh komo, u did some faults why u dont accept it? :-\
Just because CF doesn't play as much as alot of other clans doesn't mean it's a bad idea, actually most people that read this thread from the start actually agreed with it...
4 clans have made the playoffs limit this season, although mm is only 1 game off... I still count it as 4, and that's pretty impressive considering everyone has been concentrating on the WO this month...
So, next month more should make it...
SPW, get off my back already please, I already apologised for the CF thread, stop going on about it, I stopped, so why can't you?
If you don't like me, fine, but stop bringing up the past please...
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I still count it as 4, and that's pretty impressive considering everyone has been concentrating on the WO this month...
There are just a very few players that really concentrate on WO that usually would play clanners if there was no WO.
And I can just think of one clan that might be A LOT more active if there was no WO and this is CF.
I mean TaG is very very active at WO, but they still managed to play by far the most clanners this season. So I dont think WO has a big influence on tus clanners at all, cause its basically different players involved.
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If you don't like me, fine, but stop bringing up the past please...
What else should I do? Think about ur words every day, so wheres the problem to look at the past? You just every day in focus so u have to learn how to handle with it. You earn what u seed. (dont know if its correct in english but I guess you know what I mean).
Some ppl just "agreed" with you coz of sickness to discuss with you, coz it never ends and you have always the last word.
Think about it.
-> I dont reply anymore so dont waste your time to make a new post.
There are just a very few players that really concentrate on WO that usually would play clanners if there was no WO.
And I can just think of one clan that might be A LOT more active if there was no WO and this is CF.
I mean TaG is very very active at WO, but they still managed to play by far the most clanners this season. So I dont think WO has a big influence on tus clanners at all, cause its basically different players involved.
and thats true too. :)
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Actually it's bullshit to raise the minimum games limit.. Yeah there are like 5-6 clans which are active enough to exceed that limit - 4 of which are going to playoffs. It's turning kind of too activity-rewarding to me..
Edit: I am puto.
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nice post darkinho, but you forgot to mention the you are puto. <3
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i agree.. with dark.
i think 60 or 70 is games is fine.
singles 70 or 80.
45 day seasons are shorter than other leagues which were on average 60 days cus of 2 months and the limits for those clan leagues were similar values. We need to find a balance between quality and quantity and and a benchmark that won't change depending on the activity of the season.
So picking between 60/70 or 70/80 seems fair to me...
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Actually it's bullshit to raise the minimum games limit.. Yeah there are like 5-6 clans which are active enough to exceed that limit - 4 of which are going to playoffs. It's turning kind of too activity-rewarding to me..
Edit: I am puto.
Well I think it's bullshit that clans can play the very limit to make it and no more...
If no one agrees with me, fair enough lol, i'll always still think that ONLY the most active and better clans should qualify... And BEFORE you assume, I am not referring to CF, I am talking about EVERYONE...
I honestly do think that if you can't be bothered to play as much as the rest of the clans who do, this must mean you are not interested and that it bores you, or you don't have enough time to play, if this is the case then why should you deserve to do playoffs, that never ever get finished anyway?
A big reason why I came up with this idea is that if 4 clans play 80+ games a season, they are obviously active enough to do their playoffs...
I mean if you don't care enough to play as many games as possible, then why should you deserve the playoffs?
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Actually, why shouldn't they?
And who is to say that these numbers aren't as high an amount of games they can play?
And just because someone is active doesn't mean they finish their playoffs quickly
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True, but CF is pretty inactive - all the time, and seeing as they make playoffs every time, and rarely play, it's kind of hard to play them, if mm/cfc/bOr/TdC/TAG/doH were in playoffs, it would definately be played...
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There are always two clans for a playoff round. So stop punish always CF only. I rly just feel hate from you when u speak about CF. Why? Its coz we like quality more than quantity?
Sure, we have some PO's still to play, but thats not just our problem, coz we are EVERY day in #ag and its just a matter of talk. CKC and CF had a date last sunday, we knew about that date and we were ready to play it (darkz, random and me). Chicken was there too and Husk. But CKC didnt want to play that PO. I really dont know why they didnt want to play, I just read something about "Albino isnt here". Albino is never here, but thats a different point. :D By the way, no offense to CKC, its just a true example which happend last days. Happend with other clans too in the past. So ask us about "PO ne1" and stop spaming "Clanner ne1" - even happend when we are at WO tourneys at #pt or #rh channels (20+ times!)
i agree.. with dark.
i think 60 or 70 is games is fine.
singles 70 or 80.
I totally agree with this too.
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There are always two clans for a playoff round. So stop punish always CF only. I rly just feel hate from you when u speak about CF. Why? Its coz we like quality more than quantity?
I didn't say this is a really bad thing, I respect that you guys can and will play when you want, it doesn't even matter what I say, so I won't even bother now, because as usual you will twist my words, take it too seriously, get pissed off and make me out to look bad...
So anyway, just enjoy it :)
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It's not about twisting words, Komo.
First off, I'd like to say I completely agree with this:
If you don't like me, fine, but stop bringing up the past please...
But then you do this:
And BEFORE you assume, I am not referring to CF, I am talking about EVERYONE...
And your very next post:
True, but CF is pretty inactive - all the time, and seeing as they make playoffs every time, and rarely play, it's kind of hard to play them
How about both of you let bygones be bygones?
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If no one agrees with me, fair enough lol, i'll always still think that ONLY the most active and better clans should qualify...
I totally agree with that :). This should be a ratio between activity and result. And as it was it was too much balanced on result imo. Activity (and so gamble) wasn't enough rewarded. Now I think it's allright. TdC is not active this season and should not be qualified for next PO good or bad result.
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It's not about twisting words, Komo.
First off, I'd like to say I completely agree with this:
If you don't like me, fine, but stop bringing up the past please...
But then you do this:
And BEFORE you assume, I am not referring to CF, I am talking about EVERYONE...
And your very next post:
True, but CF is pretty inactive - all the time, and seeing as they make playoffs every time, and rarely play, it's kind of hard to play them
How about both of you let bygones be bygones?
I wasn't talking about CF the 1st time, And I would be more than happy to be he won't anyway it doens't matter, it's over.