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All About TUS => TUS Discussion => Topic started by: OrangE on June 07, 2016, 03:00 PM
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Hi people.
I recently came back to WA and was about to play a clanner with sbaffo.
DT agreed to play a clanner vs us then when games were about to start they said "we will play clanner only if you don't pick ropes"
The purpose of the "picks" system is exactly to avoid this, because obviously every clan has their strong schemes and their bad ones. So it seems pretty fair to me for every clan to be able to pick whatever scheme they want, since we are playing TUS CLASSIC, that is made for all-round wormers.
So my point is: if you are not an all-rounder why should you be allowed to play tus classic? From my point of view it should be forbidden to force in any way the opponent to pick a scheme or to exclude another. Since a clan agrees for a clanner that's it. Games should be starting with no "but" or "if".
Please share your opinion with me guys, because this really seems bullshit to me.
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This is making the clanner league slowly dying ffs, stop saying you can't play roper, i've never been able to play elite/team17 for example but i 've always played and respected my opponent pick.
Also, can you explain me this, when dibz or sm0k aren't around dt ask for ground clanner against tdc but magically when of them are on they pick ttrr against vok despite he hates it. Can you really f@#!ing explain me this? It happened recently and i wasn't on when this happened so yeah, gj.
Maybe i should start asking only for tus ttrr in ag cuz i don't like elite, what you think? An allround league getting transformed into a "funner i pick whatever i want else i don't play xDDDDDD" gratz.
I'm disappointed how dt became.
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Wanted to add something:
I can understand that some clans may have some good ground players that don't play ropes at all. But from the moment you agreed on playing a clanner you should be aware of that and decide to "risk" and play, or either decide not to play at all. There should be no "we play only if..." bullshit.
I encourage everyone to screenshot any person saying that and post it here. So maybe at least we can have some laughs for how pussy they are.
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I had the same problem last evening, again with dt: clanner yes but no rope schemes.
I can understand if someone says this because that day has broken his kb for example or has a serious healthy problem, but this seems to be normal nowadays in ag, and it's stupid.
It's TUS classic, you have to play all the schemes in it, period.
This because you should play your best scheme and the scheme which gives you more points, this is the logic behind.
(so in this particular case dT would have played their best scheme but FUB their worst one)
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the current rule is pretty clear: If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
suggest changes?
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suggest changes?
Easy change:
Asking for clanners should be made only this way: you ask for clanner or you don't ask for clanner.
Accepting a clanner should be made only this way: either you agree on playing it or you don't.
No conditions for the clanner should be made whatsoever. Every clan that tries to put conditions should be reported and get a penalty.
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Learn to play other schemes.
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Learn to play other schemes.
exactly.
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In name of DT i say sorry :( :( :(
hauhauhauha BL ae xD
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i have no idea, roping is the only thing that keeps me playing this game but obviously people are different... but it doesnt allow them to be a pussy that avoid roping scheme, as i never avoided elite vs best players when i knew i have like 10-20% to win...
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Same rules should apply for singles.
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In name of DT i say sorry :( :( :(
hauhauhauha BL ae xD
uhauhaha nino <3
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In name of DT i say sorry :( :( :(
hauhauhauha BL ae xD
uhauhaha nino <3
Ae M8 <3
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scheme avoiders is very poor
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Scheme avoiding is why I don't play singles - complete bullshit.
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Scheme avoiding is why I don't play singles - complete bullshit.
yes but now it spreads also to clanner ;)
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Scheme avoiding is why I don't play singles - complete bullshit.
yes but now it spreads also to clanner ;)
what? cf + others used to do it for years, yet none complained. not a new thing at all.
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Fair enough - I've not experienced it first hand.
However, no one needs to justify why it is complete bullshit - similar to avoiding.
Take the ass-kicking and improve.
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Everything gets solved with a good talk.
B4 games starts both clan can just agree with what will be played ae...
There is a King exemple :
DT want to pick elite and dont want to play roper or rr. The opponente clan wants to pick roper, then they say hey putos, we want roper, then DT says roper no, then the other clan says ok but we wont play elite either, DT says ok then we pick BNG or T17, then the other clan say ok then you guys pick BNG and we pick shopper...agreed?
if both say agreeeeed ae b4 light, i dont see a problem, sure it is boring to dont play the scheme you wanted really play, but if both agreed both clans must close the ass and play ae, i feel happy you did read that king exemple till end. kisses ae and i pick shoppa W45W :D
King exemple Number 2:
You are with ur gf @ bed and then u say hey baby suck my cock please..she say no i want you to f@#! my ass and u say no, ass stinks lemme f@#! ur pussy she says no i dont want then you say ok then lemme lick it hard then she says ok agreed...see???? one time we gotta find a solution aeeeeeeeeeee xDDD
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Fair enough - I've not experienced it first hand.
However, no one needs to justify why it is complete bullshit - similar to avoiding.
Take the ass-kicking and improve.
it just happens, otherwise you would have even less activity. you always have specialists in clans because great allrounders are quite rare. some clans take playing more serious than others. you have those people who just dont want to waste their time playing schemes they dont enjoy, just like tita. there are also players who know they will never be good ropers but being around for quit a long time, like spw or me. if i cant rope after playing for 8 years, i will never learn. at some point you have better things to do than trying to be only half as crappy in a scheme you will never be decent.
i feel the same as you, rr and roper ratings of ckc should prove that. but i understand others who dont want to let the clan suffer for their flaws by losing tons of points. without scheme avoiding it would be much harder to include all those different types of players into the league.
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A good clan has people of all types to call upon. That's the point of a clan. If the clan agrees to a clan match, they can use whichever members they wish for the type of game being played. This is how the best clans historically excelled; by having experts in each scheme available.
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Words.
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A good clan has people of all types to call upon. That's the point of a clan. If the clan agrees to a clan match, they can use whichever members they wish for the type of game being played. This is how the best clans historically excelled; by having experts in each scheme available.
Unfortunately that era is gone. We have less clans and players active.
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A good clan has people of all types to call upon. That's the point of a clan. If the clan agrees to a clan match, they can use whichever members they wish for the type of game being played. This is how the best clans historically excelled; by having experts in each scheme available.
It is true, and dt has players skilled in all schemes, the big problem Lex, is the inactivity and sometimes only 2 clanmates are looking for clanner, if whole dt were online when this happened, iam sure this thread would not be created cos we´d have played any scheme!!! cos kings!!! Porra!!!! ;D
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They should only agree to a clan match when they have the people they want available. This can be organized in many ways: IRC, Skype, Discord, Mumble, TeamSpeak, etc. SfX has always organized clan matches at least partially from outside WA, in my experience.
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They should only agree to a clan match when they have the people they want available. This can be organized in many ways: IRC, Skype, Discord, Mumble, TeamSpeak, etc. SfX has always organized clan matches at least partially from outside WA, in my experience.
That would be rly cool
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They should only agree to a clan match when they have the people they want available. This can be organized in many ways: IRC, Skype, Discord, Mumble, TeamSpeak, etc. SfX has always organized clan matches at least partially from outside WA, in my experience.
That would be rly cool
that would suck ass, cos you would lose a lot of activity. imagine tdc only playing when vok does not have to play rr. furthermore i dont know any clan these days, which isnt connected via diverse social media, but imagine dt only playing clanners when sm0k responds positivly on whats app just to have the second roper. be careful with your wishes gufo, they might become reality.
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Tdc wont play enimore rr just pecouse i dont like it. Update this dump rule. Wont play it eaven po :D
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If TdC won't play a particular scheme that's in a league, TdC should not participate in said league.
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They should only agree to a clan match when they have the people they want available. This can be organized in many ways: IRC, Skype, Discord, Mumble, TeamSpeak, etc. SfX has always organized clan matches at least partially from outside WA, in my experience.
That would be rly cool
that would suck ass, cos you would lose a lot of activity. imagine tdc only playing when vok does not have to play rr. furthermore i dont know any clan these days, which isnt connected via diverse social media, but imagine dt only playing clanners when sm0k responds positivly on whats app just to have the second roper. be careful with your wishes gufo, they might become reality.
This is facoltative, it's not a must. I don't even think anyone would even abuse it..
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Tdc wont play enimore rr just pecouse i dont like it. Update this dump rule. Wont play it eaven po :D
great attitude
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For me it's very simple.
To win the classic league you have to play all schemes in playoffs.
What's the point of playing a league that u can't even think of winning? Not even in 2 years?
Not sure about you but I would hate to be considered an avoider. Cmon people, if you can't even pretend to be tough online what the f@#! are you in Real Life? A depressed wet towel?
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Get some balls, loose some matches and get better. Even after 8 years of sucking.
And trust me, when a clan feels its loosing because some schemes are hard, they will try to get new players or force some inactive friends to come back. We did it, why can't you? (and we even use whatsapp)
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If TdC won't play a particular scheme that's in a league, TdC should not participate in said league.
great attitude
relax ur asses tough boys, if u knew Vok u would know he is joking buhsauhsuahsua it was easy to spot as he ended his statement with :D ...
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I never refused a roper or rr when was only i and other clan mate around, even when we knew this would be a lost game already but thats it, i still think that playing the pick is the best way.
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I remember politely asking if we could do non roper clanner because I couldn't even rope on elite with my kb lol.
I remember being said no several time and still played the clanner and giving the free win basically.
Did I enjoy it? Not really since it was frustrating since it was really a kb issue. Did I said no clanner if rope scheme? No.
I feel like sometimes if you can trust the opponent (because you know the player for long enough) you can accept to restrict the clanner because of valid reason. i.e. if Ryan were to tell you he can't RR because he is on his gf laptop, I would trust what he is saying and do a non roper clanner.
However, clan that avoid specific scheme clanner because they don't have the line up is just damn no fun.
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Pfft...
Remember this is a game for fun, League or not people play it in their spare time, NOBODY wants to spend their free time away from school/work/wife etc doing something they simply don't enjoy.
Stop calling people cowards when they simply don't want to waste their time.
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Remember that it's a league and a league must maintain a set of rules to remain relevant. If a competitor is not interested in a league's rules, that competitor should be playing in a different league.
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Haha Fada your example is terrible.
By playing an allround classic league you sign up to the chance of playing any allround classic scheme.
Lex is right - ironically there are many other leagues to play if you want to avoid refuse specific schemes.
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Remember that it's a league and a league must maintain a set of rules to remain relevant. If a competitor is not interested in a league's rules, that competitor should be playing in a different league.
Remember that a League does not automatically mean forced to compete in the same way as everyone else.
Remember that TuS League does not have any rule forcing people to play every single scheme even if they don't want to.
Remember that there are individual standings for individual schemes.
Remember that FB/TuS(maybe others) introduced more schemes rather than the old 3 scheme system, it's too much for some people.
Remember not to be selfish.
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Haha Fada your example is terrible.
By playing an allround classic league you sign up to the chance of playing any allround classic scheme.
Lex is right - ironically there are many other leagues to play if you want to avoid refuse specific schemes.
you are wrong:
If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
source: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/3-rule-updates-picking-first-ttrr-exact-times-avoiding-16077/
mind to show me the other leagues i can play? lets say i dont want to play rr. my only option is to switch to free league which covers a variety of non common schemes with big rr/tower on top of it. furthermore there are no clanners being played in tfl, some people just prefer teamplay because of the fun.
91 of your 117 clanners for cfc have been roper or ttrr. its easy talk on the subject when you have a couple of great allround players sitting in ag any night who prevent you from playing your weak schemes.
your next step will be to telling me: only to sign up for a clanner once i have the allround lineup. did you ever wonder why your clan is winning this league since years? its because you are the only clan to have the luxury being able to that, without the risk of not having enough games to qualify for playoffs.
i wish we had the activity to make a system like this working, but your ideas are some years late.
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91 of your 117 clanners for cfc have been roper or ttrr. its easy talk on the subject when you have a couple of great allround players sitting in ag any night who prevent you from playing your weak schemes.
Peja is absolutely right, if you are of the mind of playing all schemes, they would have constituted more than 25% of all your clanner games. Don't get me wrong, I like playing BnG and roper more than anything, and try to as often as possible, but still more than 50% of my games in clanners are not those schemes, I don't even know how you've managed to avoid all the other schemes that much, especially for someone who preaches for all-around integrity.
It is kind of strange arguing for people to play whatever scheme they want, whenever they want, while playing all schemes; while the inverse could be said of you.
Frankly im surprised you don't fall on the other side of this argument Ryan, your league play results seem to suggest otherwise.
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Wouldn't that just be because cFc calls upon him for rope schemes? I'm sure other cFc members have opposite proportions.
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Wally, most of my opponents pick RR (seriously) to take a punt at points.
What can I do?
Komo, your post reads like a Subway advert (play it YOUR way)
In that case, I will play Allround league with no 5h0pper or hysteria. That's right, none of you can pick shoppr or hysteria against me.
I raise my chance of reaching playoffs and get to focus on reaching #1 in rr at the same time.
Let me play it my way, don't be selfish.
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I agree with pretty much everything you said Peja but not this:
your next step will be to telling me: only to sign up for a clanner once i have the allround lineup. did you ever wonder why your clan is winning this league since years? its because you are the only clan to have the luxury being able to that,
Perhaps the previous few Seasons have been especially bad for activity, but cfc isn't the only clan with a kinda all-round lineup, there have been various clans in the past 1-2 years with 3-4 players who together(like us) make up for every scheme.
cfc are just stronger because we have one of the best all-rounders of all time, 2 scheme specialists, and the other players are very good at different schemes too, more importantly many of us have stuck with cfc for many years, unlike others who jump from clan to clan every few months, just like CF we have learned to play together and hone our tactics over many years, especially daina/lalo who are the best 2 player team i've ever saw.
Maybe if some of the current players could get along better and had more loyalty they could be the next CF/dt/cfc in their prime, if a few join a clan which has already stood the test of time and settle in
Sbaffo, dibz, Lukz, Almog, Senator, VoK, walrus and some more, are very strong players, but they are split up into different clans, imagine them in the same clan??
Almog doesn't play Clanners though, but if he did and paired up with the guys above, damn...
Some mergers could be nice.
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I read you non ropers, this ain't about points, this is about enjoyment or lack of thereof. Right?
So if you can't rope and despise doing so, when your opponent picks it, give him a free win and play your pick. End of the story.
We don't adulterate standings so everyone can enjoy the league in their own magical personal way, that's not how you do things. If people need a specific set of personal rules to have fun in an all around league they need to either adapt or find something else but not expect the rules to mold around their ineptitude.
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It's better if we split up honestly because this gives more Players/clans, therefore you get more activity, this is better than having a clan where people get their line up ready (such as dt).
I wanted go back in 420 with dibz but fub was my priority. Would have liked to have senator and vok in 420 with me and dibz but they didn't want to... btw i'm curious to see now that lalo and daina are inactive if cfc are going to play any game without them.
I read you non ropers, this ain't about points, this is about enjoyment or lack of thereof. Right?
So if you can't rope and despise doing so, when your opponent picks it, give him a free win and play your pick. End of the story.
We don't adulterate standings so everyone can enjoy the league in their own magical personal way, that's not how you do things. If people need a specific set of personal rules to have fun in an all around league they need to either adapt or find something else but not expect the rules to mold around their ineptitude.
Yes, exactly, give away free wins. It's simple.
Get some balls, loose some matches and get better. Even after 8 years of sucking.
And trust me, when a clan feels its loosing because some schemes are hard, they will try to get new players or force some inactive friends to come back. We did it, why can't you? (and we even use whatsapp)
I agree on this. The more you lose, the more you learn something. It isn't a surprise that newcomers like me, senator, vok etc. have gotten better after years of losing games. Even i got better at elite after years of losing games (not a pro but i still can play it better than how i used to do).
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I may not know much about history of first ranked games to ever be performed in WA.exe but... did the producers of WA indeed make these particular scheme official or classic ?
The first thing I thought when I came to TUS was " Why there aren't 3 leagues, Rope: BigRR, TTRR, WxW, Roper, Classic: Shopper, Elite, Bng, Hysteria, T17, Free: Golf, Mine Madness, Plop War, Battle race, etc ...
I mean.... I didn't see anything wrong in somebody being the best in 2 leagues or 3 leagues at the same time. So again... did developers made it a rule somehow in the origins of the game? or was it just players?
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It's better if we split up honestly because this gives more Players/clans, therefore you get more activity, this is better than having a clan where people get their line up ready (such as dt).
Not entirely, 8 clans with 2 members each could play less games than 4 clans with 4 members each, timezones, schemes they enjoy etc, chance of being on at same time even if they share the same timezone...
I wanted go back in 420 with dibz but fub was my priority. Would have liked to have senator and vok in 420 with me and dibz but they didn't want to... btw i'm curious to see now that lalo and daina are inactive if cfc are going to play any game without them.
Sure, but how long will FUB last? Do you really need to keep reviving clans that didn't last before? Why not all the members in FUB and join CKC or TdC or something?
We(cfc) have been discussing in private about what we want to achieve in the new era of TUS, I guess now is as good a time as any to appeal to everyone else here.
cfc are planning to recruit 3-4 noobs who are keen to learn the game competitively, trying to teach them to be all-rounders, we won't focus on winning as much as before, but we will still aim to reach PO and win those.
We are going to try our best to encourage everyone to play all schemes, we would love if other clans could do something similar by recruiting a few noobs and training them teaching them about competitive WA on TuS.
In the long run it would keep this game alive, if we want to improve this game we need to start working together as a collective.
Yes, exactly, give away free wins. It's simple.
So, you say it's "pussy" to avoid certain schemes? Even though scheme specialists are not afraid to play anyone at their favourite scheme.
On the other hand however, you would rather get free points to climb the ladder? That seems more pussy tbh.
I agree on this. The more you lose, the more you learn something. It isn't a surprise that newcomers like me, senator, vok etc. have gotten better after years of losing games. Even i got better at elite after years of losing games (not a pro but i still can play it better than how i used to do).
Sure, but you at least enjoy those other schemes, to you TTRR is the best thing since sliced bread, but to some people it makes them snore...
I used to be a scheme specialist, but now consider myself as more of an all-rounder and now is the time for me to focus on all-round for a while instead on 1 scheme at a time, when I find a new house i'll definitely contribute to Singles activity :)
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A free win gives a message like "don't pick this scheme again". You don't want to report a free win more than once and it makes u pick something else. No good. I admit that VoK and I have just clowned around in RR in some occasions, which is like giving a free win. You should play the pick and try your best even if u hate the scheme. You can always do the same to your opponent and pick the scheme that he hates the most. It's up to players whether they want 2 games where either player has no fun or 2 games where both players have fun.
I don't understand picking the opponent's weakest scheme when that means hardly any points and an unbalanced game, though (when u don't need to improve your winning ratio). People just want a worthless win on their record or what? Now Komo says that he enjoys BnG even if his opponent sucks but at least for me there's no fun if there's no real opponent. I don't usually pick my opponent's weakest scheme but a scheme where I'm a slight favorite. I get an exciting game and good points.
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I wanted go back in 420 with dibz but fub was my priority. Would have liked to have senator and vok in 420 with me and dibz but they didn't want to... btw i'm curious to see now that lalo and daina are inactive if cfc are going to play any game without them.
Sure, but how long will FUB last? Do you really need to keep reviving clans that didn't last before? Why not all the members in FUB and join CKC or TdC or something?
This is a serious thing. ANO, Orange and Alenic (and soon Angus) came back playing competitive games again. How much will it last? I dunno. But i definitely won't leave fub. I've planned to stay here forever and to invite people as soon as my clan mates become inactive.
Yes, exactly, give away free wins. It's simple.
So, you say it's "pussy" to avoid certain schemes? Even though scheme specialists are not afraid to play anyone at their favourite scheme.
On the other hand however, you would rather get free points to climb the ladder? That seems more pussy tbh.
Yes, it's pussy. Let's make an example: i'm playing tus against someone who picks only team17 and is good at it. I play it (which is by far my worst opponent scheme) and lose it. Fine, i lost a game. Now it's time for my pick. I pick rr, do i have to be considered a noob for doing this (although i've rarely done this)? Is my opponent allowed to avoid it? Once again, this is a league, not a league for specialists, you're allowed to pick the same scheme but you have to play other people's pick. It's a matter of respect.
I agree on this. The more you lose, the more you learn something. It isn't a surprise that newcomers like me, senator, vok etc. have gotten better after years of losing games. Even i got better at elite after years of losing games (not a pro but i still can play it better than how i used to do).
Sure, but you at least enjoy those other schemes, to you TTRR is the best thing since sliced bread, but to some people it makes them snore...
Komo, do you remember i used to play ONLY hysteria years ago? I hated anything else, even ttrr, i didn't enjoy play any other scheme, but i never avoided anyone's pick, because i was aware that this is an allround league and if you can't deal with it you don't have to play it.
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A free win gives a message like "don't pick this scheme again".
Does it? Says who? Pretty sure other people will feel differently.
You should play the pick and try your best even if u hate the scheme. You can always do the same to your opponent and pick the scheme that he hates the most.
That's ridiculous...
"try your best even if u hate the scheme." - It's impossible to try your best at something you hate, only when you really enjoy something you will unlock your potential.
This is also a pointless way to live life doing things you hate which you can easily avoid, we obviously disagree here.
"pick the scheme he hates the most." - Why would you want to encourage negativity?
I don't understand picking the opponent's weakest scheme when that means hardly any points and an unbalanced game, though (when u don't need to improve your winning ratio). People just want a worthless win on their record or what?
We are talking about someone playing only schemes they like, not choosing the schemes they have the best chance of winning.
Now Komo says that he enjoys BnG even if his opponent sucks but at least for me there's no fun if there's no real opponent. I don't usually pick my opponent's weakest scheme but a scheme where I'm a slight favorite. I get an exciting game and good points.
Again, we are talking about doing what you like, not what you succeed at most, yes I enjoy BnG even if my opponent sucks so long as they are happy enough to play, I would never force someone to play BnG if they hated it too much, there are always other people who will play.
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That's ridiculous...
"try your best even if u hate the scheme." - It's impossible to try your best at something you hate, only when you really enjoy something you will unlock your potential.
This is also a pointless way to live life doing things you hate which you can easily avoid, we obviously disagree here.
"pick the scheme he hates the most." - Why would you want to encourage negativity?
that questions the whole idea of picks (it's not like I am for or against). Wouldn't be 'eliminating' schemes, one by one, out of 8 simply the best ? It really makes sense to me.
In potential 2 games, once the first player starts from eliminating schemes, giving himself more influence, and for the second time the other player starts from eliminating schemes, giving more influence to him. It's common sense to me.
let's say that since there are
t17
bng
hysteria
shopper
elite
wxw
ttrr
roper
somebody liking rope starts first (having possibility of eliminating 4 schemes, compared to the other person - 3) he eliminates bng, etc... then somebody who utterly can't stand rope, can eliminate wxw, ttrr, roper, leaving with the roper fan with the final choice which may be Shopper I believe (and it's fine, you don't have to be particularly pro at this)
as people find more people keen on roping they can end up with wxw since they both are into that kind of a game. Come on, so many people choose it so it surely can end up as the pick from both players, same with ttrr, roper. To me it is highly entertaining to watch and surely can be chosen by both.
Lets say now that utterly ground person starts first, and that rope fan can eliminate what makes him boring to play giving him a choice of 3 eliminations
It works in 3 ways:
- people stop endlessly avoiding particular scheme without consequences
- people stop playing only one scheme
- people enjoy what they play
SIMPLICITY
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I agree with pretty much everything you said Peja but not this:
your next step will be to telling me: only to sign up for a clanner once i have the allround lineup. did you ever wonder why your clan is winning this league since years? its because you are the only clan to have the luxury being able to that,
Perhaps the previous few Seasons have been especially bad for activity, but cfc isn't the only clan with a kinda all-round lineup, there have been various clans in the past 1-2 years with 3-4 players who together(like us) make up for every scheme.
cfc are just stronger because we have one of the best all-rounders of all time, 2 scheme specialists, and the other players are very good at different schemes too, more importantly many of us have stuck with cfc for many years, unlike others who jump from clan to clan every few months, just like CF we have learned to play together and hone our tactics over many years, especially daina/lalo who are the best 2 player team i've ever saw.
Maybe if some of the current players could get along better and had more loyalty they could be the next CF/dt/cfc in their prime, if a few join a clan which has already stood the test of time and settle in
Sbaffo, dibz, Lukz, Almog, Senator, VoK, walrus and some more, are very strong players, but they are split up into different clans, imagine them in the same clan??
Almog doesn't play Clanners though, but if he did and paired up with the guys above, damn...
Some mergers could be nice.
its a matter of talent, let me show you the last finals:
season 41: rr and wxw vs hhc
season 42: free and dibz vs ryan and daina rr, avirex sbaffo vs daina lalo defaults
season 43: chelsea is playing wxw for dt
season 44: cfc playing with b squad yet style is overmatched in ropes
season45: csongi kins are no match in defaults, espcecially not in bng
season 46: somewhat close on paper against dt, still 3:0, having the free win in bng means a lot if the other pairings are close, prolly the closest final in terms of talent.
season 47: no pos
season 48: l3x being overmatched despite winning the eS luck combo of hysteria/t17
season 49: no playoffs
just like the cavs wont beat the warriors, none will win cfc, unless you guys start to underperform a lot or playing b lineups. you can still kill the remaining active clans to form a formidable opponet, it just shows this league is dead and prolly wont recover in the near future.
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Lol, the bit with Chelsea made me laugh :D
its a matter of talent
It's more about years of practise and effort than talent, for example HHC has been playing longer than daina/lalo, but daina/lalo trained harder to win games, HHC is a good all-rounder but is more about fun, when you don't take the game as seriously you will never improve enough, it's all fair and square though because other clans do actually have players who cover all schemes, it's up to them to practise and enjoy :)
Obviously cfc are not unbeatable, there are clans there with the potential to be better than us as a whole, someone/something better always comes along eventually, besides we still lose games in all schemes often enough :D
Edit - Also, Chelsea may suck at Rope, but he's VERY good at Hysteria/Shopper/Team17, enough to be helpful, if dt played the right guys for right matches
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That's ridiculous...
"try your best even if u hate the scheme." - It's impossible to try your best at something you hate, only when you really enjoy something you will unlock your potential.
This is also a pointless way to live life doing things you hate which you can easily avoid, we obviously disagree here.
Lol man, i often agree with u, but sometimes u talk like a total kiddo... if u dont enjoy playing schemes that u are obligated to play when u agree on playing tus classic then....
DONT PLAY TUS CLASSIC AND GTFO PLAYING FUNNERS FFS... IS IT REALLY SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
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season 41: rr and wxw vs hhc
No excuse, HHC should be able to play all schemes by now if he cared enough to win playoffs. He doesn't give a f@#! so you're asking cfc to give him members so they can be competitive while not giving a f@#!. That's why communism only works in Canada, everywhere else you have people feeling entitled yet not feeling entitled enough to try for themselves.
season 42: free and dibz vs ryan and daina rr, avirex sbaffo vs daina lalo defaults
fair match.
season 43: chelsea is playing wxw for dt
Isn't Chelsea a top TUS singles player? If he can't rope then he's been allowed to abuse the system for ages then
season 44: cfc playing with b squad yet style is overmatched in ropes
Who is cfc B roping squad?
season45: csongi kins are no match in defaults, espcecially not in bng
Again, top TUS singles players. Mediocre system gives mediocre players.
season 46: somewhat close on paper against dt, still 3:0, having the free win in bng means a lot if the other pairings are close, prolly the closest final in terms of talent.
free win in bng? Because Komo plays? That's ridiculous and he'll say so himself.
season 48: l3x being overmatched despite winning the eS luck combo of hysteria/t17
oh shit l3x got overmatched by cfc, worms gonna worm.
It's not cfc's fault there's a lack of competition, its the competition's fault. Do you imagine Peja how good you'd be if you played instead of posting? Do you imagine how that weirdo who played Moles for an arbitrary virtual rank instead practiced in becoming a good clanner player?
There's no will to become good. The only will in this league is being accepted/having somewhere to lay dead.
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if u dont enjoy playing schemes that u are obligated to play when u agree on playing tus classic then....
You aren't obligated to play them though, as previously posted in this thread you can ask for specific scheme in lobby while searching TUS, but you can't ask for TUS ne1 then refuse scheme, you must make your intentions clear before starting.
Let me also point out, I support playing all schemes these days, it just took me a while to get the addiction of making specific schemes a priority out my system a bit :D Still think it's ok to pick your favourite schemes the most though :)
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Do you imagine Peja how good you'd be if you played instead of posting?
i am prolly top 5 in league games played in the history of this league, my ceiling is just f@#!ing low ;D
the current cfc core will dominate this league until they stop playing or tus stops to exist. feel free to mock me anytime if am wrong.
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Maybe the question is not why I suck so much, but why the guys in cfc are so good?
Takes about 2 years of training to reach that level, but also the dedication to keep trying for many years, and the focus to become the very best. It's a quality that not many people possess.
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i am prolly top 5 in league games played in the history of this league, my ceiling is just f@#!ing low ;D
or maybe you think that's enough to beat players on their 1000th season like komodo, or players that have played more league and clanners than all of the active dt players together like Lalo...
Nope. If you wanna beat them and you don't have the experience you better be ready to put in the time and effort, like Mablak and Random had to put when they decided they were going to win, they beat players that had years on them, how? because they put in more time and effort to catch up and finally surpass. There's really no such a thing as talent in videogames, sure you can be more creative, have better reflexes, but ultimately, it's practice, and the effort you're putting while you're playing.
Some people just don't understand the dedication. It took me a year to rope comfortably. I've witnessed people learn in 3 months. It's a matter of how much you willing to give in. But please, if you're not willing to give in much, don't blame others.
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Maybe the question is not why I suck so much, but why the guys in cfc are so good?
Takes about 2 years of training to reach that level, but also the dedication to keep trying for many years, and the focus to become the very best. It's a quality that not many people possess.
yes
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Maybe the question is not why I suck so much, but why the guys in cfc are so good?
Takes about 2 years of training to reach that level, but also the dedication to keep trying for many years, and the focus to become the very best. It's a quality that not many people possess.
yes
which is the simple reason why they are "unbeatable". take a look at the bigger picture. this league cant survive solely based on the try hard league players. newcomers are almost non existent nowdays. thats why MI has to attract the guys playing for fun. you do this by weakening competitive standards.
do you really expect a new player rocking this league within the next years? if its realistic, it would have already happened during the past years of stagnation.
we are mainly a bunch of guys in their mid twenties to thirties without much fresh blood. a nice family of the same old faces knowing each other pretty well. there wont be big changes unless wmd turns out to be the new wa with a brand new base of players and tus community merged into each other. we will keep playing each other till this league slowly dies while some players reached a higher standard than others.
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Maybe the question is not why I suck so much, but why the guys in cfc are so good?
Takes about 2 years of training to reach that level, but also the dedication to keep trying for many years, and the focus to become the very best. It's a quality that not many people possess.
yes
which is the simple reason why they are "unbeatable". take a look at the bigger picture. this league cant survive solely based on the try hard league players. newcomers are almost non existent nowdays. thats why MI has to attract the guys playing for fun. you do this by weakening competitive standards.
do you really expect a new player rocking this league within the next years? if its realistic, it would have already happened during the past years of stagnation.
we are mainly a bunch of guys in their mid twenties to thirties without much fresh blood. a nice family of the same old faces knowing each other pretty well. there wont be big changes unless wmd turns out to be the new wa with a brand new base of players and tus community merged into each other. we will keep playing each other till this league slowly dies while some players reached a higher standard than others.
TFL isn't exactly attracting anyone now is it.
Don't see many new users making posts either.
doesn't really apply
in fact, you achieve the opposite; let's see, who are the top3 players spawned during the TUS era?
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I read you non ropers, this ain't about points, this is about enjoyment or lack of thereof. Right?
So if you can't rope and despise doing so, when your opponent picks it, give him a free win and play your pick. End of the story.
We don't adulterate standings so everyone can enjoy the league in their own magical personal way, that's not how you do things. If people need a specific set of personal rules to have fun in an all around league they need to either adapt or find something else but not expect the rules to mold around their ineptitude.
wise words
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A free win gives a message like "don't pick this scheme again". You don't want to report a free win more than once and it makes u pick something else. No good. I admit that VoK and I have just clowned around in RR in some occasions, which is like giving a free win. You should play the pick and try your best even if u hate the scheme. You can always do the same to your opponent and pick the scheme that he hates the most. It's up to players whether they want 2 games where either player has no fun or 2 games where both players have fun.
I don't understand picking the opponent's weakest scheme when that means hardly any points and an unbalanced game, though (when u don't need to improve your winning ratio). People just want a worthless win on their record or what? Now Komo says that he enjoys BnG even if his opponent sucks but at least for me there's no fun if there's no real opponent. I don't usually pick my opponent's weakest scheme but a scheme where I'm a slight favorite. I get an exciting game and good points.
wise words #2
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Ok guys listen let's cut the crap.
There might be a solution for all this. We could do like in all the major tournaments of other games: the ability to ban a scheme.
This means that both teams, before picking their scheme, have the option to ban 1 scheme from the match. This gives interesting strategic options to clans without doing pussy crap and still staying inside strict rules.
I would prefer this instead of arguing and loosing time searching for clanners when people simply won't play certain schemes.
Remember that if you ban the opponent's strongest scheme you won't get a big advantage because of how points work. This could be a valid rule to apply if everybody agrees.
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Since you can't avoid this behaviour completely, why not regulate it.
Any opinions?
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We could do like in all the major tournaments of other games: the ability to ban a scheme.
This means that both teams, before picking their scheme, have the option to ban 1 scheme from the match.
No, that's completely selfish, there must be a clever way of doing it but not allowing people to play what they enjoy is completely ridiculous.
Try again, oh and Orange, there is edit button you don't need to post so many times haha.
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It's not ridiculous at all. It's for competition. For those who enjoy fair competition, enabling the banning of a scheme may be a better idea than the current alternative, which is being forced to either play a seemingly unwinnable pick or not participate at all.
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well there is a topic about banning schemes back from 2013: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tus-discussion/banning-schemes-19402/
anyway I think a random scheme picker would be better;
say I wanna play tus with random00, I use a scheme picker where I include random00's name and it'd say "roper got picked for husk and random00" ok then we play roper and if we want to play another game we use the scheme picker again
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say I wanna play tus with random00, I use a scheme picker where I include random00's name and it'd say "roper got picked for husk and random00" ok then we play roper and if we want to play another game we use the scheme picker again
*Zalo sitting at lobby with sb*
' mann, lemme do da picker machin, mmkay? '
' oh, mole again, oh well... :S looks like the fate has been decided '
does... this have any credibility that the other person actually used this randomizer...?? :d
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yeah, have u ever used ds map picker? it could work the same way, ds map picker saves archive of the picked maps, this however would save archives of the players and picked schemes
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Lmao at people trying to figure out new ideas suitable for noobs, it's all their fault if they want to play COMPETITIVELY but do not want to master every classic scheme it's absolutely their fault and they should be forced to play or give free wins, actually this is just ridiculous that people are joining forces to make changes to this system, end of story.
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nino, vê só, se eu estivesse procurando clanner no AG com Dibz e quisesse forçar eles a não jogarem roper tudo ok, mais eu estava no ag procurando um jogo para entrar e me perguntaram no privado " quer clanner? " dai eu respondi perguntando " será roper?" se eu não to afim de jogar, eu não jogo. tudo depende do meu momento, não ligo para que me chamam de nada, absolutamente, sempre quando jogo é para me diverti , e não vi naquele momento diversão com dois idiotas querendo me força a jogar um jogo que eu não queria no momento. Já joguei corda clanner duas semanas atrás contra senator e vok vs tita dibz. Diferente daquele dia, eu não me recusei , apenas perguntei se seria jogo de corda. Eu já disse, crianças amam drama . hahahahaha fodam se. você não deveria ter pedido desculpas de nada meu amigo, eu não estava a procurar clanner.
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i gonna use google translate., tired to translate perfect, and i don't care translate very well for some idiots. that's all :D
nino, see only if I was looking clanner the AG with Dibz and wanted to force them not to play roper all ok, but I was in ag looking for a game to come in and asked me in private "or clanner?" dai I replied asking " roper will be? " if I not into playing, I do not play. it all depends on my time, I do not care what they call me anything at all, whenever the game is to amuse me, and I saw at that time fun with two idiots wanting to force me to play a game that I did not want at the moment. I've played rope clanner two weeks ago against senator and vok vs tita Dibz. Unlike that day, I did not refuse me, just asked if it would be rope game. I said, children love drama. hahahahaha you should not have apologized anything my friend, I was not looking clanner.
that reply was only for nino, i just translated cuz.... u know.
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It's not ridiculous at all. It's for competition. For those who enjoy fair competition, enabling the banning of a scheme may be a better idea than the current alternative, which is being forced to either play a seemingly unwinnable pick or not participate at all.
Yes, it is ridiculous, it's unfair, it's selfish.
It's fairer competition to wait for someone who will play what you both enjoy rather than forcing someone to do something they don't enjoy.
Also, you have to take into account lifestyle here, Sbaffo spends 4-5 hours a day clanning, some people only enjoy playing for 30-60 minutes, they have work, or girl or job etc.
Sbaffo has more time to play all the schemes, other people don't.
Tbh i'm fed up replying to thoughtless comments, most of you are just being selfish when it comes to this topic.
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komo you're against this just because people would ban bng every time vs you.
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Well Komo, people have different opinion, I personally don't agree with making it easy for lazy guys that don't have balls to master every scheme, tbh your post sounded like your post must be treatened like an ultimate/last word of the topic. :D
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Remove 1 ground (t17) and 1 rope (shopper) scheme from Classic.
When 2 clans agree on fighting, they need to play all 6 remaining schemes, before starting new clanner.
If "our/their/mutual" pick is too much to handle. Seems like it is :)
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komo you're against this just because people would ban bng every time vs you.
Lmao how silly is that, I've said multiple times I support playing all schemes and I am strong in more than bng
Kaleu, stop saying having balls which is a completely irellevant statement, some people just don't have the time to practise all schemes like us sad old gits with nothing better to do than play all day, also some people simply don't like some schemes.
Please stop being ignorant please use your brain.
Edit: Also, people with that mindset is seriously not helping, do what i want, you are pussy, you suck, lamer, noob, avoider... This just makes the people hate certain schemes even more... Stop trying to force and stop insulting and try and find ways to make it more appealing.
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I'm using my brain, it's my opinion, use yours to respect it.
I had to master every scheme to become atleast "decent", why some people need special treatment because of their very own fault?
They should manage to learn schemes or they simply just don't play leagues...
In short words; They must adapt to the league not the league adapt to them.
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Jesus christ...
Nobody gets special treatment YOU ARE THE ONES EXPECTING SPECIAL TREATMENT.
They have adapted to the League because the League allows it, seriously lol...
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hey
i dont play leagues but i think im just gonna drop my worthless opinion here
if you ever pretend you want to win a league that is made of 8 schemes, you should be able to play all of them (even so, if you consider the fact that a person can be really good at ground schemes (lets say, unbeatable), he/she can reach the first spot on standings and then just pick 3 ground schemes during playoffs...)
imo this applies for singles, because clanners are a completely different story.
clans can be made of amazing players, regular players or terrible players. for example, lets talk about my case. i am pretty much like chelsea; i usually play ground schemes. i hate roper so so so much but i never refused to play one... because despite the fact i hate that scheme, i can realize that since the moment my clan started asking for clanner, i am completely screwed... if the other clan decides to picks roper, i am doomed... gonna have to "snore" like someone said (was it komo?) for 10/15 minutes. now if said person plays clanner and refuses to play some schemes, why would he agree on doing so in the first place? come on, its about being mature... if you want to do something you gotta think about possible consequences first. i would never be a douche and start asking for clanner while i am with walrus, for example (his keyboard is not working afaik) when i certainly know that there are clans out there that could pick TTRR or roper (yuck),unless he told me he is ok with that and would be fine with playing any of the schemes.
the clanner case, in my opinion, is on the victim's end: they should not play clanner if they know they can get forced to play their hated schemes, and they have no teammates on.
there are people that pick the schemes the other person can't play, but if that person keeps doing it they'll eventually reach a point where they can't get more than 3/2 points from him/her.
am i the only one that thinks league was working pretty fine? (except for the few avoiding/noobashing cases)
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Jesus christ...
Nobody gets special treatment YOU ARE THE ONES EXPECTING SPECIAL TREATMENT.
They have adapted to the League because the League allows it, seriously lol...
chill bru
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Jesus christ...
Nobody gets special treatment YOU ARE THE ONES EXPECTING SPECIAL TREATMENT.
They have adapted to the League because the League allows it, seriously lol...
Lmao, this is something new to me although this is just ridiculous that there's an official announcement allowing to do that, this is wrong in so many levels.
This encourages people to stick with their favorite schemes and never learn all league schemes, if we once had a separated league for each scheme (which was suggested multiple times) that would be acceptable.
Anyway I'm out of it, we don't need more people pointing the obvious. :)
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this is wrong in so many levels.
Why? The reason why the League allows people to play specific schemes is simple, you cannot force or expect ANYONE to play all 8 schemes, get that into your heads already and keep it there on a permanent basis or you will spend the rest of your time here unhappy.
This encourages people to stick with their favorite schemes and never learn all league schemes, if we once had a separated league for each scheme (which was suggested multiple times) that would be acceptable.
Good! That's how it should be, people playing only what they enjoy, I wouldn't force anyone to do anything they don't enjoy! And if you are one of the people who wants to force people to be unhappy then f**k you.
This is not a professional League where people play every other participant an equal amount of times like more organized games/sport, this isn't even an official League for Worms, sometimes I laugh, sometimes I sigh when reading these selfish comments...
That's the reason why we have Playoffs, you cannot avoid there, the League is made in such a way to make it possible for hardcore players and casual players to participate, and that's perfectly fine!
Trust me, go ahead and make all 8 schemes mandatory and watch TUS almost instantly die, do it, I dare you!
@Gabriel - Good post but I still feel the same way.
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It's not to force them to be unhappy. They can be happy playing in more focused leagues or outside any league. If they play in a league with 8 schemes with opponent picks, they are expected to play the picks. It's their choice to play the league. It's optional. Nobody is being forced.
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do it, I dare you!
(http://s.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2013-07_5/13746414426849.png)
I double dare you mother***ker!!
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It's not to force them to be unhappy. They can be happy playing in more focused leagues or outside any league. If they play in a league with 8 schemes with opponent picks, they are expected to play the picks. It's their choice to play the league. It's optional. Nobody is being forced.
If someone is asking tus anyone THEN refuses to play a pick, sure thats bad but as it stands, presently, you can ask for specific schemes and play them no problem.
So far people are saying it should be mandatory to play all schemes regardless, which would be forcing them
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Komo and Kaleu stop takeovering this thread. If u have unresolved matters go elsewhere pls.
Both of you: you can summarize your opinion in 5 rows and that's it. No flames or I'll get very pissed.
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So for what I've understood so far:
many people agree on the fact that clanners should be played without discussing schemes first.
only few agree on the "ban" system proposed by me, for now.
Anyway it seems like the majority of us is in favour of stopping the "arrangement" behaviour pre-clanners, in a way or another.
For now 2 solutions were proposed:
- Punishing who tries to influence the scheme picking before clanners
- Applying the "ban" system for a trial period of time to see if it gets better.
Other ideas or suggestions are appreciated.
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Orange,do you realize there are hundreds of other players? 4 or 5 people in this thread does not make the majority.
Change happens when enough people want it/ask for it and that's what happened by allowing pre arranged scheme picking it's been a thing for like 5 years or more.
Me and Kaleu are cool, friends disagree on stuff btw ;)
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Orange,do you realize there are hundreds of other players? 4 or 5 people in this thread does not make the majority.
Change happens when enough people want it/ask for it and that's what happened by allowing pre arranged scheme picking it's been a thing for like 5 years or more.
Me and Kaleu are cool, friends disagree on stuff btw ;)
Komo you argue just for the sake of arguing, like always. Stop it, get out of this thread PLEASE.
I just want to hear the opinions of other people and summarize them. Is this a crime? Please go away I don't want to deal with you.
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Komo you argue just for the sake of arguing, like always.
Yup, most mature comment of the century, can't handle the fact I like to debate stuff so comes out with a pointless childish comment, gj!
I just want to hear the opinions of other people and summarize them. Is this a crime?
What the f**k do you think i've been doing? You think my sole purpose on this planet is to annoy you, please, I have a more important agenda than that,
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Komo and Kaleu stop takeovering this thread. If u have unresolved matters go elsewhere pls.
Both of you: you can summarize your opinion in 5 rows and that's it. No flames or I'll get very pissed.
Komo and I are very good friends despite the fact that we are clanmates aswell.
Also who the f* are you to teach people manners?
We don't went off topic while discussing. Not sure what you trying to prove here, you just came from nowhere dictating what people must post to please you, rofl.
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I think that when it comes to clanners or singles, it's very simple:
Your side gets a pick and their side gets a pick. Is there not already diminishing returns built in for winning a certain scheme frequently? If so, it doesn't make a lot of sense that someone (or a clan) would pick their best scheme consistently, unless their aim is to slowly amass wins/points through loads of games. (Maybe there should be some consideration as to how many points schemes are awarded when they are frequently picked? Are the diminishing returns currently in place enough to compel people to play all schemes?)
For clanners, I don't think any discussion of schemes should be done beforehand whatsoever. I feel like if you're willing to step up and start competing in a team environment, you and everyone else in your clan needs to be as much of an all-arounder as possible. I don't understand how people can play for years and NOT be an all-arounder. To be good at anything in this game, it takes time and effort, and pretty much every single one of us has spent a ridiculous amount of time playing this game. If you're lacking in a particular scheme, it is because you haven't put in the work. There's a couple of schemes that I definitely need to work on - and do.
I don't think that 'banning' schemes is an answer for anything. People should be forced to play those schemes they don't like, the schemes they're not so great at and fume about losing so that it motivates them to train and overcome. Too many specialists these days, and not enough all-arounders.
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When u start arguing with Komo its like having a parasite, a tick. He sticks to your ass until the thread is "the Komo show"
I've seen this sooo many times in 8 years. I'm aware I'm giving up this thread to him, officialy, right now, but I couldn't resist. His reply to this post will be probably an insane wall-of-text.
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Orange lol, do you have a problem reading English? I can ask someone to translate for you if you wish?
For the last time, I support playing all schemes, however I am not a selfish tool who thinks everyone else should do what I want to do, I respect those who don't support all schemes, it makes life more interesting.
Also, if all schemes were mandatory this League would definately be dead by now.
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Is Komo done making this thread about Komo?
Buddy, we get it, you think rules are selfish, message received, thanks for your input.
Banning goes on in basically any competitive online games that includes number of choices. There is no reason not to at least experiment with the idea.
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if the other clan decides to picks roper, i am doomed
NBR clan
wtf is this shit
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LMAO ropa. Good catch. That's pretty funny.
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You pick one scheme, I pick one scheme.
Simple - as it always been.
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Please explain this to me.
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You pick one scheme, I pick one scheme.
Simple - as it always been.
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You pick one scheme, I pick one scheme.
Simple - as it always been.
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by Gab " i can realize that since the moment my clan started asking for clanner, i am completely screwed... if the other clan decides to picks roper, i am doomed... gonna have to "snore" like someone said "
my clan wasn't looking for clan. i just reply a simple question of moment.
ae gab, that day i joined to ag to play normal 2 vs 2 , or something like this, someone player of BUF clan, did ask me about clanner, so, i did ask " will be roper? ". so the kids attack started.
This topic could be fair and smart if i didn't agree to play roper when i'm looking for clanner. wasn't the case :)
euiheiuehiueahiuaehiuaeh
look how crazy they are in gif becuz i did not roper xD
(http://media.youthink.com/images/2012/12/06/3255527_349100_6296FB3B-CF57-84C5-785BADF790424D3A.gif)
kiss haters and lovers. joint time for me, i want remember boys and girls , never use drugs. it's very bad.
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We are probably older than you, we are not kids.. except for Sbaffo :D But he now got fur as well, so he is a man.
You are not the only one who behaves like this... ANd this is not good... Enough of this. Orange got mad, probably because he has been playing other vidoegames recently where people who behave like you get banned or kicked out from leagues.
Play or die. You can't rope??? I can't walk!!! But I play and respect your damn pick...
"No, I don't want, I don't like... I don't play with you! I decide! the ball is mine, I decide who can play!!!gn gn gn ..." This is a kid btw. Spoiled daddy's boy ;)
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We are probably older than you, we are not kids.. except for Sbaffo :D But he now got fur as well, so he is a man.
You are not the only one who behaves like this... ANd this is not good... Enough of this. Orange got mad, probably because he has been playing other vidoegames recently where people who behave like you get banned or kicked out from leagues.
Play or die. You can't rope??? I can't walk!!! But I play and respect your damn pick...
"No, I don't want, I don't like... I don't play with you! I decide! the ball is mine, I decide who can play!!!gn gn gn ..." This is a kid btw. Spoiled daddy's boy ;)
lmao u are so dumb to can't understand to that timeI was not open to play rope. i won't be forced to play roper for kids. sorry kids... vnt :)
this topic was been opend cuz was tita to said NO, i can imagine if PQ refused to play, what could be happened. NOTHING. :)
relax kids from GUB
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We are probably older than you, we are not kids.. except for Sbaffo :D But he now got fur as well, so he is a man.
You are not the only one who behaves like this... ANd this is not good... Enough of this. Orange got mad, probably because he has been playing other vidoegames recently where people who behave like you get banned or kicked out from leagues.
Play or die. You can't rope??? I can't walk!!! But I play and respect your damn pick...
"No, I don't want, I don't like... I don't play with you! I decide! the ball is mine, I decide who can play!!!gn gn gn ..." This is a kid btw. Spoiled daddy's boy ;)
lmao u are so dumb to can't understand to that timeI was not open to play rope. i won't be forced to play roper for kids. sorry kids... vnt :)
this topic was been opend cuz was tita to said NO, i can imagine if PQ refused to play, what could be happened. NOTHING. :)
relax kids from GUB
what part of my post wasn't clear? This one? "You are not the only one who behaves like this... "?
coglione.
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if i'm looking for clanner i play roper ttrr wxw or the best scheme to ur mama play.
look https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-209195/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-208399/
but if i'm in ag looking for normal, elite bng, don't ask me about roper clanner.
only smart boys can understand me :)
as all relaxed player stoned to don't care for league , i can choice if i'll clanner or not when i'm in silence in ag don't looking for clanner , as happened.
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btw, someone did ask me about hate:
unknow Germany friend: "now do you hate sbaffo?"
tita: " NEVER, just a idiot can hate another idiot" 8)
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Lmao what the f@#! is going on here
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"As it's always been"
Considering TUS allows pre arranged games...
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I don't understand shit when tita posts. but i trust ano so he must be a coglione.
Anyway i'm happy about all the opinions that came out. even if this is not the whole pool of players on tus it's still a good indicator.
For what i've understood the majority of people here is definitely agreeing on "i pick a scheme and you pick a scheme" without stupid arrangements.
I still think this is the best way to go, without being forced to regulate anything else.
Peace everybody
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i've read this thread 1 week ago, but can't remember every post. i don't want to read it again.
i don't understand the discussion of this topic. rules say clearly, there are a number of various schemes in classic league.
if you participate in classic league, you must agree to opponents pick.
if someone says that he only will play, if you don't pick ground/rope schemes, then he is lame and abusing tus rules.
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My God, where is the dolphin that only appears in wormnet to do drama and disappears? is this child with sexual problems? or mental disorder?
lets keep posting :) Why stop? stop Why? :)
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Seeking for attention mate?
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iJVLcLgfnKw/hqdefault.jpg)
ah, I see you're feeling something coming out of the dolphin.