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Worms: Armageddon => Promotion Project => Topic started by: Free on January 17, 2013, 01:22 PM

Title: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 17, 2013, 01:22 PM
Orange is working on the streaming side of things and as it's easy to upload the streams to the youtube channel we're going to create, and we want to start right away so we're in BIG need to charismatic commentator(s) for todays clanner playoffs to get the ball rolling. Playoffs start at 19GMT.

Who would be interested? Please try to forward this as much as possible since it's happening today.

As for ideas for the topic of commentating is to make it noob-friendly with history aspects of WA and at the same time enterntain us more experienced ones who already know whats going on.

Any other ideas?

Stream finds here: www.twitch.tv/weirdjack
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: franz on January 17, 2013, 02:44 PM
I found when commentating, it seemed easier to do so when talking about more strategic schemes like Elite and maybe Hysteria. Was harder to think of stuff to say during a TTRR or BnG for example, but I'm just not as charasmatic ;p

You seem to have the right idea though, blending those things seems best.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 17, 2013, 04:08 PM
ok guys i will comment but my english sux a bit. so i need another wormer to do this in a cool way: it would be perfect just to set up a skype call (or TS) and chatting normally, i would be the "noob" one, asking things and helping to comment the games in a way that everyone can understand what's going on. who is interested?

this is the first attempt so i don't expect a freaking show, lets just do it i assure you it will be fun :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Rogi on January 17, 2013, 04:15 PM
I wanted go to sleep now. But i better will see it!!  ::) ::)
I have desire, but have not skills of english and coments something...

I hope someone will do it! its gr8 idea! Come on!!  :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 17, 2013, 04:28 PM
So we got a plan setup already?

Franz will you be able to comment alongside with Orange?

Edit: Sent message to NNN guys, they have experience already, hope somebody will be able to help.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Wolfgang on January 17, 2013, 04:39 PM
I will play the po  today  , but I can watch it after the streaming finish it? like a video
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 17, 2013, 04:40 PM
I found when commentating, it seemed easier to do so when talking about more strategic schemes like Elite and maybe Hysteria. Was harder to think of stuff to say during a TTRR or BnG for example, but I'm just not as charasmatic ;p

You seem to have the right idea though, blending those things seems best.

Agree on the BnG part, but it could be used to talk more about history of Worms for example... and Orange showed me this neat trick that he's able to draw at the same time the game is happening, so you could be predicting the shots before hand perhaps or something like that.

Edit: Yeah Wolfgang, you can.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 17, 2013, 04:42 PM
I will play the po  today  , but I can watch it after the streaming finish it? like a video

yes of course, all is immediately ready to watch after the stream ends :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: franz on January 17, 2013, 04:58 PM
well like I said, someone more charismatic should do it, but I can maybe be available, as last resort. 2 hours from now I think, right
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 17, 2013, 05:02 PM
cool franz, you should comment anyway! we can even be 3 commentators, if we find another one.

ill PM you with my skype address. everyone that would like to comment just PM me.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 17, 2013, 05:39 PM
I will try to get alot of viewers for this event, I'll be posting on a big finnish PC/Gaming forum about the stream.

If you guys got gamer forums you participate/know of, post a message and so they get a glimpse of what Worms Armageddon is all about.  Bring the A-game, commentators should come up with a general plan how they are going to approach it, if there's delays when hosting, in the lobby and so on.

If we get even 1 more player who starts playing because finds the game interesting, it's already progress.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 17, 2013, 06:08 PM
Ok so I posted an advertising thread off the stream on 2 of the biggest forums in Finland and I'm positive we will get A LOT of viewers from there.

We should get more people aware from other countries so GOGOGOGO fast, advertise to tune into the stream.

When I'm not playing (if not all) I will be entertaining our finnish guests in the chat.

Do your best now commentators and other peoples in the chat. We want to make it for them as easy as possible to start playing this online and give them the best resources.

Let's make it happen!
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Anubis on January 17, 2013, 06:14 PM
It would actually help if you post the URL of the stream in this thread too, btw. ;)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 17, 2013, 06:16 PM
www.twitch.tv/weirdjack
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Anubis on January 17, 2013, 06:17 PM
Ty, followed!
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 17, 2013, 06:58 PM
Been decided yet? I could do it xD

Me and orange could do it together? That'd f@#!ing own !
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Ryan on January 17, 2013, 10:13 PM
I could help with some future commentary in the RR
Would be best to have someone with "news reader" accent and witty personality though
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Rogi on January 17, 2013, 11:02 PM
Thanks, was nice to watch it. ;)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: barman on January 17, 2013, 11:42 PM
Thanks for your effort Orange and Franz, hoping to see more streams soon :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Crazy on January 17, 2013, 11:44 PM
Great job guys, worked really nicely and it was a pleasure to watch. I think an audience of 100-150 viewers is pretty solid for it being the first time (atleast organized like this)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Husk on January 17, 2013, 11:47 PM
yeaaaa thanks orange and franz, it was amazing!
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 12:10 AM
It was such an positive experience, atmosphere was grrrrreat!

Thanks for everyone!

There was much positive feedback on the forums I posted.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2013, 12:11 AM
Great job guys, worked really nicely and it was a pleasure to watch. I think an audience of 100-150 viewers is pretty solid for it being the first time (atleast organized like this)

Edit: Also congrats DT, impressive to turn the game around and reach yet a final
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2013, 12:15 AM
Great job guys, worked really nicely and it was a pleasure to watch. I think an audience of 100-150 viewers is pretty solid for it being the first time (atleast organized like this)

Edit: Also congrats DT, impressive to turn the game around and reach yet a final

Edit 2: Didn't mean to quote this, failed my edit ;X Thx for your great enthusiasme Free, it's really refreshing for me personally to see your passion on this and the game in general
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2013, 12:16 AM
What the hell, I'm destroying this topic. Sorry :-X
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: rU` on January 18, 2013, 12:22 AM
Watched it, good job fratellos :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 01:38 AM
thanks you guys for watching it and commenting in the chat!! i had a lot of fun and franz did an awesome job.

i will stream the finals too, anyone that wants to comment with me can just send me a PM. the important thing is that i'll need an audio test at least 30 mins before the games begin.

Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 02:04 AM
Aye thanks for banning me for no reason ya bias prick.

Edit:

There were several people joking about T17 being lucky, we were having a f@#!ing laugh, if you have a problem with me you should talk to me about it in private, not act like a little pussy nerd hiding behind his computer screen like a f@#!ing coward with power issues.

You are worse than Kiros ffs...

Apart from that, I really enjoyed it up until that point it was a breakthrough and alot of fun :) Gj dt, awesome comeback !
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: darKz on January 18, 2013, 02:57 AM
f@#! it, since everyone is using this thread I'll post some feedback here. :D I wanna be constructive here, no harm intended. Not saying I would've made it better because I've been there and done worse probably. ;)

What I liked:
- franz as your co-caster was really nice
- the general quality of your stream is almost perfect
- you put an overlay with the current score

What (imo) needs to be improved:
- the sound delay was a bit confusing and annoying, do you know how to fix this yet?
- commentators were too silent in general, should explain more things to the newb spectators that we are tune in
- the breaks were boring, should put a fancy wormy screen with a "be back shortly for game X" text as well as some music (!)
- shouldn't show the lobby at all, only switch from the above mentioned fancy screen to the game when everyone is ready and it starts
- was a bit awkward to see you private messaging, but because you're in one of the clans participating it could hardly be circumvented i guess
- when you answer to twitch chat you should read out the question/suggestion or whatever, i was wondering what you were talking about at some points
- while the peja & philie video in the bng break was a nice intention, it's got nothing to do with the game for anyone not related to the tus community.. i guess any high quality wormtube video would be suited way better for breaks
- the whole thing with komo live on stream wasn't necessary, really.. that was very unprofessional and a poor representation of our community

I think that's about it. I really like the effort with the streaming, keep it up. :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Anubis on January 18, 2013, 03:10 AM
I have already talked to DarK about various topics he talks about and pretty much agree with all he posted!
It really looks awkward if the moderator is also cheering for his own clan, it should be kept neutral. xD
And yeah, the komo ban, really unnecessary, not only way too exaggerated (arguments happen, it's normal) but looked really bad. :)
You should hire moderators that do the "dirty" work like muting/banning and such stuff in the chat. Not the moderator of the gameplay.

Gj, overall, just improve that and all good.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 03:25 AM
I don't know if anyone realised I was banned, well I dunno how that thing works, but when he said "don't f@#! with me, I have powers here" or something, I dunno how many people noticed but I was like, wtf man? None of us were even talking about OrangE we were talking about T17 lol, we were all just having a laugh, if someone had even PM'd me and asked me to stop or something I would have...

Regarding what darKz said, I feel franz done a great job commentating the Elite, he explained almost every move, the tactics and why they were doing such things, even possible scenarios I think. I actually learned from this and i've been playing since 1999... Thanks franz !

Maybe we should have a team of commentators for each group of schemes or something?

Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 05:05 AM
all what darkz said is absolutely right.

- i will have to fix my audio because it sux badly, ill work on it.
- the silence: well me and franz never talked before, all this thing was arranged very quickly so not having something scheduled can be hard. he did an awesome job tho, without him i would have felt alone and silly. my english isn't enough to explain everything, so i just tried to act a little funny to do my part. re-watching the stream i think i sounded probably too much childish, it was just my first attempt to keep some audience interactinng with people. i'd say it was not a total failure tho, i just will have to improve some entertaining skills.
- i just learned using xsplit, layouts will be more complex for next streams so i will arrange measures for breaks and get prepared for eventual drops too.
- this was the fist try, so yeah my comments were for dt of course, it wasn't meant from my side to be SO professional and neutral, but we can fix this too, for the finals i will just do a small part and keep my comments neutral. franz is perfect for commenting i guess, so it would be cool if he will comment next games too. but the crucial thing is having a carismatic person that keeps the views up and being too much serious makes people run away. people watching streams do want to see commentators interact with the chat all the time, joking, laughing, etc. so we are still open for someone that maybe wants to dive into this!
- about the chat yesss you're absolutely right i didn't realize that if you are watching it at full screen you can't actually read the chat, so interacting without explaining what you're seeing looks stupid. i will fix this too.
- the peja - philie break was stupid, of course. i just didn't wanna make the ppl stare at a blue screen for so long so i did the first thing that came in my mind, i will have scheduled breaks for that.
- komo. komo you are a drama queen. i really didn't like your attitude and no, i didnt ban you, it was just a 600 seconds time out. there's a little button you can press to temporarly time out people and it was meant to be for fun, wasnt a serious thing at all. you could just re-join the channel and i would laugh with you about that again. why i did that? well because we are putting some serious effort here, and reading someone that repeats a hundred of times that "the scheme is 100% luck based" acting trollish certainly doesn't make the game look competitive, which is our goal. you are an old player here and you should understand that, if you're looking for attention go elsewhere please. do you think all my "uuuhhh!!! niceeee!" "wowww nice jump!" during the games were natural reactions? of course not, i was acting all the time to try making the game more interesting i could for newcomers. and you should too. you can discuss about luck here on TUS, not in the chat of a stream with 100 potential new wormers, what the hell. you were disrespecting all our effort.
BUT besides all, im sorry for this if it looked bad, maybe i just over-reacted and i wasnt perfectly lucid, i have nothing personal against you and to be honest when i pressed that button i didn't even know it would erase your messages and time out you for so long. i thougt it would just disconnect you from the chat for few seconds. so stop acting like a drama queen like you usually do and accept my apologies. running a stream having 258 unique visitors is HUGE for what we are used to, so please try to understand my point.
last thing: if you wanted to comment the game you should at least come earlier. it would be really nice to have you in the voice chat, but how could you think i would have the time to assist you during the stream? you even wanted me to give you links for downloading team speak, wtf? can't you use google?
your idea of having a team of commentators for each scheme can be really nice btw, we will discuss about this.

in conclusion: yeh, a bunch of stuff to be fixed BUUUT what the hell guys. 258 unique visitors for W:A is big stuff. this means ME AND FREE WERE f@#!ING RIGHT. this game can still provide some interest around the net, we just have to find good ways to share what we've got.

so, thank you very much for being constructive, all your effort is really helpful. please keep doing this, let's stay on this boat ;D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 05:36 AM
Cmon orange don't lie man, there were alot of other guys doing the same shit I was doing, you took it out on me personally.

It wasn't a timeout, it was a ban, 600 seconds is 10 minutes dude, the game would almost be over by then, you could have easily PM'd me and warned me, AND EVERYONE ELSE DOING THE SAME THING.

I didn't even start the subject of T17 being lucky, stop trying to pin this on me just because I have somewhat of a reputation on these forums, no one else was complaining about me, it was only you, I deserved every right to be warned 1st.

You didn't know? I don't believe you, sorry, but I don't, because you then went on to say "Don't f@#! with me, I have powers here" thinkin you the shit n that.


I will buy a mic for future commentating, sounds good.

I don't hold a grudge so if you are cool then we're cool.

Apart from this misunderstanding you guys done a truly amazing and inspiring job organising this and getting so many visitors, congratulations it's the beginning of a new era :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 05:51 AM
like i said, i couldn't know about the 600 seconds thing. i never banned someone from the twitch.tv chat, this is my very first experience in streaming. there's a little clock near every nickname, i just pressed it assuming it would just disconnect you.

i warned you several times, watch the stream again, you should understand you were disrespecting all our effort acting that way. i even told you "stop being an ass, komo" but you kept trolling looking for attention, like you always do. pls it's very important you understand this, i wouldn't expect that kind of trolling by your side. someone even asked "is this komito even good at worms?" trying to understand if what you were saying was a valid argument.

like i said i've nothing personal against you and again, im sorry for that, wasn't intentional. and cmon, that "don't f@#! with me" was an EVIDENT joke.

so please lets move on, this thing was just a silly accident.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 05:53 AM

Apart from this misunderstanding you guys done a truly amazing and inspiring job organising this and getting so many visitors, congratulations it's the beginning of a new era :)

thanks, i appreciate it :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 06:01 AM
like i said, i couldn't know about the 600 seconds thing. i never banned someone from the twitch.tv chat, this is my very first experience in streaming. there's a little clock near every nickname, i just pressed it assuming it would just disconnect you.

i warned you several times, watch the stream again, you should understand you were disrespecting all our effort acting that way. i even told you "stop being an ass, komo" but you kept trolling looking for attention, like you always do. pls it's very important you understand this, i wouldn't expect that kind of trolling by your side. someone even asked "is this komito even good at worms?" trying to understand if what you were saying was a valid argument.

Ok well I heard you say "cmon komo" like, with a voice that was playful so I didn't think it was anything, I never seen who said that but seems like they just wanted to know if I played and if I knew what I am talking about lol, doesn't sound like a complaint, next time, maybe tell someone, "stop doing *so and so* or I will remove you"?

All is good in the hood :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 06:08 AM
will do. ^^
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 06:31 AM
Cool, and I won't make fun of schemes on live TV  :)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 08:37 AM
Loving the positivity and the suggestions, and step by step it's only going to get better.

Was so fun night last night, and even more glad we got such a thriller out of it.

I got a suggestion but it has some flaws to it.

I got complaints of how they couldn't understand the first scheme(s) and what they had to do with Worms Armageddon they are used to. So in the future streams if clan decides to pick elite for instance, would be better to pick it as 1st game so viewers stick around with higher percentage. But the truth is, we're doing this to win the playoffs and obviously the wisest decision is to pick the strongest schemes first.

Let's start streaming tournament of schemes people are more familiar with and get them interested like that.

This + everything else will be discussed under new sub-forum MI is going to create for this ambitious project of us, but I'm still planning the "big picture" and am not sure about the name should be.

"Official" YouTube channel will be created today/tomorrow and name suggestions as well general content for it are welcome. Bigger talk will be on the newly created forum though. Stay tuned. Little busy for some hours now but then I'll get right to it.

Ain't it amazing that when you work for something your passionate about, you can't WAIT until you can create some more. :)

I also Vote for Komo as commentator as well Avirex. All the people interested, shout out to this thread or PM me.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 08:45 AM
Great job guys, worked really nicely and it was a pleasure to watch. I think an audience of 100-150 viewers is pretty solid for it being the first time (atleast organized like this)

Edit: Also congrats DT, impressive to turn the game around and reach yet a final

Edit 2: Didn't mean to quote this, failed my edit ;X Thx for your great enthusiasme Free, it's really refreshing for me personally to see your passion on this and the game in general

Thank you for the kind words. :)

When you love something, you just simply want to do it and funnily enough on some level I feel that WA just simply does not get the attention it deserves. Someone just has to take the first step and see the possibility instead failure.. atleast try, that way you don't regret it later.. I fully believe that we will get an e-Sport event happen but if its not ment to be, then at least we helped to grow the community and most importantly have fun while doing it.

Thanks for everyone who contributes to this game.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: barman on January 18, 2013, 09:25 AM
Free, can you give a link to the Finnish forum where you advertised the stream? I'd like to read some of the comments (hoping that google translate works fairly well for Finnish).

If you are looking for a commentator, I'm up for the job, as long as I'm not playing. My spoken English is not perfect, but I can make up for that with my talkativity and worms experience.

Also, here are some of my ideas for the longish breaks between games:
- WormTube videos, obviously.
- Prepared replays which demonstrate the way schemes work, the possibilities of WA nowadays (rubberworm, PX), or just previous games between the current participants (though you would need to remind the audience all the time that it's not the actual live gameplay, just a saved game from the past)
- Browsing TUS, showing statistics of the participating clans/players, standings, playoff tables etc, also just features of the website in general.
- Tutorials on how to install and configure WA, where to find an update, maps, schemes, what are the social norms on wormnet, how to host with wormnat2 etc.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Tomi on January 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
It was a very good job guys! Maybe for the next event I will try to post to some Hungarian gamer forums too, to watch the game :D

By the way I think I mentioned firstly that T17 is a lucky scheme, so I am sorry!

And I would mention an other suggestion (but this was maybe done, and I just didn't hear it):
- A more detailed presentment of the teams and the players. I mean, you should have said for example, that dt is a very old-school clan, they won 6 consecutive playoffs, etc. TaG is not maybe a Chilean clan (as I heard :D), but they are. And this is very respectful that Chile has so many good players that they can create a so strong clan. (And these things can be said couple of times, like "if anyone has joined just now the stream, then for them bla bla.." :D)
- I think at the start of the game you should present the players who are playing. Where are they from, How long do they play the game, Any trophies they won, Do they have maybe a good history, How good are they in the actual scheme (maybe they are the masters of the scheme, who haven't lost any game for a long time, or they have more than 90% winning ratio (maybe both team, so this will be a good match :D)) etc. So I mean you should see about the clans/players who will play and notice some curiosity (ofc if you will have time to do that)

By answering these questions I guess there would be less break :D

But we know this was a very quickly streaming and commentating and how good it succeed :D Truly a nice job ;)
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Mablak on January 18, 2013, 09:49 AM
I wish I could've clicked the stream, 250 people is a great turnout, not sure how you attracted so many, but that's really cool. Ah bar, Balee was working on some WA tutorial videos, I think pretty soon some of those will be out on youtube, would be easy to just load one of those during waiting time.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: wza on January 18, 2013, 10:52 AM
Oh great idea! Is there a link to watch the streamed match still? It would be fun to provide commentary.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: barman on January 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
hi wza ^_^

http://www.twitch.tv/weirdjack/b/357906523
Actual playoff games start at about 00:20:00
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: wza on January 18, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oh cool! That's a long video! 4 hours. I want to tune into a live event.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 11:55 AM
I wish I could've clicked the stream, 250 people is a great turnout, not sure how you attracted so many, but that's really cool. Ah bar, Balee was working on some WA tutorial videos, I think pretty soon some of those will be out on youtube, would be easy to just load one of those during waiting time.

Most of them were finnish viewers as I advertised on some big forums I'm part of that are interested in gaming, other people advertised too, and it was done only 1 hour prior to the start, would be lot higher if we advertised earlier.

@ Barman, heres the links: http://murobbs.plaza.fi/showthread.php?p=1710247403#post1710247403

http://www.pakkotoisto.com/pelit-ja-konsolit/113481-taenaeaen-seuraa-worms-armageddonin-pro-pelaajien-playoff-matsi-live-streaminae-klo-21-a/

Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Impossible on January 18, 2013, 12:04 PM
I'm famous on Russian gaming forums, I can invite alto of ppl, just tell me when it will be needed xD
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Husk on January 18, 2013, 12:20 PM
that would be awesome impo
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: barman on January 18, 2013, 02:17 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming

It's up to luck whether reddit users accept a submission because of the huge number of links posted every hour. But if we post the information around 24 hours before the stream, we could get hundreds to thousands of viewers if it catches on.

WA is quite popular on a Polish link aggregator Wykop.pl, http://www.wykop.pl/tag/worms (it's not rare to see people on AG wearing a "wykop" tag or hosts named "wykop"), anyone from Poland who has an account there should post a notice a day before as well.

I'm sure there are gaming-based link aggregators in other languages, let's make a big spam action before the next stream :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 02:17 PM
Free, can you give a link to the Finnish forum where you advertised the stream? I'd like to read some of the comments (hoping that google translate works fairly well for Finnish).

If you are looking for a commentator, I'm up for the job, as long as I'm not playing. My spoken English is not perfect, but I can make up for that with my talkativity and worms experience.

Also, here are some of my ideas for the longish breaks between games:
- WormTube videos, obviously.
- Prepared replays which demonstrate the way schemes work, the possibilities of WA nowadays (rubberworm, PX), or just previous games between the current participants (though you would need to remind the audience all the time that it's not the actual live gameplay, just a saved game from the past)
- Browsing TUS, showing statistics of the participating clans/players, standings, playoff tables etc, also just features of the website in general.
- Tutorials on how to install and configure WA, where to find an update, maps, schemes, what are the social norms on wormnet, how to host with wormnat2 etc.

really GREAT ideas man. thank you so much :>
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 02:19 PM
It was a very good job guys! Maybe for the next event I will try to post to some Hungarian gamer forums too, to watch the game :D

By the way I think I mentioned firstly that T17 is a lucky scheme, so I am sorry!

And I would mention an other suggestion (but this was maybe done, and I just didn't hear it):
- A more detailed presentment of the teams and the players. I mean, you should have said for example, that dt is a very old-school clan, they won 6 consecutive playoffs, etc. TaG is not maybe a Chilean clan (as I heard :D), but they are. And this is very respectful that Chile has so many good players that they can create a so strong clan. (And these things can be said couple of times, like "if anyone has joined just now the stream, then for them bla bla.." :D)
- I think at the start of the game you should present the players who are playing. Where are they from, How long do they play the game, Any trophies they won, Do they have maybe a good history, How good are they in the actual scheme (maybe they are the masters of the scheme, who haven't lost any game for a long time, or they have more than 90% winning ratio (maybe both team, so this will be a good match :D)) etc. So I mean you should see about the clans/players who will play and notice some curiosity (ofc if you will have time to do that)

By answering these questions I guess there would be less break :D

But we know this was a very quickly streaming and commentating and how good it succeed :D Truly a nice job ;)

good points here too mate. gj and thanks! will think about this things too, definitely.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 02:38 PM
annnd yes, we definitely want to share the stream links on reddit too. with a bit of luck we could make a huuuuge viral.

for the future: if we manage to get some good average views for every tournament (300+) i could ask twitch.tv to have a partnership. this means they would put my stream on the main page when its going, randomly switching between all other partnership accounts. basically more views can catch even more views. they encourage people to ask partnerships for games that aren't already streamed often (wa is not streamed by anyone so far, so this could be a HUGE advantage for us).

so yeah guys, im really happy about this positive wave going on here, lets try to share our stuff as much as we can, ill put all the effort i'm capable to give, according with my exams coming. this simply means i won't play funners but only focus on events and promotion from now.


last thing that came in my mind: i've watched a lot of followed streamers. there are 2 types, basically:
1. the attention whore: usually alone, playing interesting adventure games and chatting all the time with the spectators. very informal, jokes, long silences. spectators chat with each other hoping for a feedback from the streamer, which gladly do that. followed by fans.
2. the professional: usually not alone and not playing, commenting in a professional way what's going on only for big events, talking all the time with NO BREAKS, relatively not caring about spectactors. spectators chat with each other about what's going on. followed by random people.

i think we should go for an hybrid. acting professional regarding the game, explaining everything to the spectators, but never forget to interact and give some good show. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET FANS. we might wanna be chatty, never stop talking. we should have at least 1 commentator that interacts and 1 that is more professional and focused on the game.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 03:46 PM
Ok I am going up town today to buy new jeans and replace my iBeats in ears, so i'll try pick up a microphone while i'm at it.


I honestly think if we wanna branch out, we need to seriously SERIOUSLY as a community cut out the immature language and swearing etc, it's ok how we are now cuz we are used to it, but this forum as it is now would push people away not bring them in I think...
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: taner on January 18, 2013, 04:43 PM
ME AND MINK WOULD LIKE TO BE COMMENTATORS!!!
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Husk on January 18, 2013, 04:50 PM
+1 for mink and taner
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Peja on January 18, 2013, 05:01 PM
+1 FOR MINK & TANER
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Anubis on January 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
I wanna commentate a game with Peja. Hartz4 TV. :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 07:10 PM
What the f**k, HMV went into administration, luckily the headphones I bought the warranty is with Monster not HMV - PHEW !

There were no electrical shops open so I couldn't buy a microphone but I think my work sells them so i'll pick one till tomorrow, no rush as I won't be able to commentate till next PO anyway.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Ryan on January 18, 2013, 07:53 PM
Yep, HMV are the latest to suffer, my local one has big sales but is closing in a couple of weeks no doubt.
You mention electrical, Jessops (camera shop) has also gone down.

I, too, may look to get some form of microphone to help with commentary if needed.

This whole streaming thing is really good, *shameless advertising* Dulek and I may be playing our RR Cup final at 7pm GMT Sunday.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 09:10 PM
Ok so I found out that one of the forums I posted the advertisment thread to is an old pro Worms player from Finland and he's actually moderator of that forum (murobbs, husk). I asked what his nick was and waiting for the answer.. I'm guessing its Voltage. He said he loves the game.

I'm going to ask him to support the gam by making a bigger deal about it on the forum. It's the biggest PC and gaming forum in Finland with shitload of members.

What a coincidence :D
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Husk on January 18, 2013, 09:15 PM
exciting news =D I wonder who it would be if not volty
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2013, 09:19 PM
If it's voltage, I'll cut my balls right off. I doubt it's him
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 09:37 PM
If it's voltage, I'll cut my balls right off. I doubt it's him

Yeah if it was him WA should feel kinda betrayed lol...

He's been in all major leagues etc why wouldn't he know about this website?
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: Free on January 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
We'll see ;) He knew about Worms League though. I just can't think of anyone else but my memory sucks anyway.

SO GUYS, we now have a general forum on TUS Main for all stuff considering of promotion of WA, I'll make one post today about what ideas you have for the official youtube channel were going to use and then im off to bed and work more for the forum, make sub categories and such.

These 2 threads considering this topic will be there tomorroz.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 10:21 PM
Yep, HMV are the latest to suffer, my local one has big sales but is closing in a couple of weeks no doubt.
You mention electrical, Jessops (camera shop) has also gone down.

I, too, may look to get some form of microphone to help with commentary if needed.

This whole streaming thing is really good, *shameless advertising* Dulek and I may be playing our RR Cup final at 7pm GMT Sunday.

please remind me this tomorrow too, il will stream it!
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: cOke on January 18, 2013, 10:25 PM
i want to commentate, have i missed it?
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: cOke on January 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
I honestly think if we wanna branch out, we need to seriously SERIOUSLY as a community cut out the immature language and swearing etc, it's ok how we are now cuz we are used to it, but this forum as it is now would push people away not bring them in I think...

if i can't swear i'm not gonna do it bro
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: OrangE on January 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
i'm about to open a thread on the new forum to organize commentators. everyone that is interested in commentate post there ;>
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2013, 11:04 PM
I honestly think if we wanna branch out, we need to seriously SERIOUSLY as a community cut out the immature language and swearing etc, it's ok how we are now cuz we are used to it, but this forum as it is now would push people away not bring them in I think...

if i can't swear i'm not gonna do it bro

Nah I meant like we should calm down a bit on these forums if we get this thing popular.
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: cOke on January 18, 2013, 11:26 PM
I honestly think if we wanna branch out, we need to seriously SERIOUSLY as a community cut out the immature language and swearing etc, it's ok how we are now cuz we are used to it, but this forum as it is now would push people away not bring them in I think...
I honestly think if we wanna branch out, we need to seriously SERIOUSLY as a community cut out the immature language and swearing etc, it's ok how we are now cuz we are used to it, but this forum as it is now would push people away not bring them in I think...

if i can't swear i'm not gonna do it bro

Nah I meant like we should calm down a bit on these forums if we get this thing popular.

if i can't swear i'm not gonna do it bro

Nah I meant like we should calm down a bit on these forums if we get this thing popular.

CALM DOWN? ? ? ? ? ? MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALM DOWN
Title: Re: ASAP: NEED A COMMENTATOR FOR TODAYS PLAYOFFS STREAM
Post by: TheKomodo on January 19, 2013, 02:21 AM
Well yeah, that includes me lol  :-[