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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: avirex on February 01, 2017, 02:20 AM
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first of all, if you enjoy roping, and you have not played w2 roping yet, please check the replay i attached.... it was such a good game, and a lot of strategy, i made some mistakes early on in the game, so at the end, i had to play my ass off to try to win...
but i didnt :(
please check the replay, just watch how the scheme is played, and the level of strategy that is involved in the game... rather then... *collect cr8, attack.... collect cr8, attack... collect cr8, attack...repeat repeat repeat*
the scheme is a rubberworm scheme, so you will need rubberworm to view it.
now, with that said, there will be a w2 roper league shortly... we already have one ran on www.myleague.com/roper but "myleague" kind of sux... Hulk from w2 has been working on a new website for our w2 roper league. it will be released shortly..
recently about 30+ old school w2ers have came back to w:a because they discovered rubber worm.... and each player has been scanning his old w2 contacts, to talk to some oldies, and see if they are interested in coming back as well... for instance, Raekwon came back just today! hes a good friend, and a legend :DD
oldsock, aladdin, dibz, and other w:a guys have already signed up for the current league, and all enjoy the scheme... its fast pace, and skilled based... not really much luck involved, being you make your own choices on what you want to do.. you determine how your game will go.... all though, obviously if you get a cr8 that lands next to your worm for the entire game, your going to have a pretty lucky/easy game... but other than that, there is very little luck.
anyway... i just wanted to let all of W:A know about the league we have in process, and the new league that will be coming soon... its a w2 rope only league.
dont be confused with the w2rope scheme i made in the past...
this scheme is used with rubber worm, to make the rope faster, changed gravity, etc.
please check replay, or better yet, join the league :DD
when the new league is made, ill post a link for anyone who is interested.. thanks.
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A list of differences between Roper and this please?
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after you watch the replay, if you have any questions let me know... but im not going to waste my time listing differences, if you cant bother to watch a simple replay.
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Im at work, reading from phone. This list would be useful so people could get quick idea what it is, and im sure im not alone who thinks so.
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Sounds pretty good, are you sure all the w2 players are legit and not aliased/impostered?
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Title: Attention all ropers!!!
Final product: Scheme without afr rule.
What's this? Some sort of clickbait? :)
If you meant it as fun oriented league, I'll thumb up - looks nice!
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Unfortunately this is quite subpar compared to ZaR. You may argue it is older and holds more value due to hypocrisy but it is flawed.
There's no water drop here, meaning that are no sense of skill when you place a mine or throw a grenade. Therefor it leads to more luck.
What's up with the dynamite? It's overkill to have such devastating weapon, wouldn't you think?
2 worms is a nice touch, ZaR have this implemented which works flawlessly.
ZaR is inspired by Worms 2 Roper, but it goes beyond it in terms of pure skill.
Sadly bigotry will overshadow.
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Kradie and his Zar Scheme makes me remember of Maciej and his fingerroll vid lmfao
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This vid is still around?
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This vid is still around?
at youtube i guess pm maciej ae! xD
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Pic says its this:
(http://picload.org/image/roloclgw/20170201_191918_maciej_fingerr.png)
:D :D :D
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it's a good scheme, i like it more than classic roper. but i'm afraid of w2 roper's physics could affect my perception of classic's roping physic .
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Also I made a poll last year if people were interested in having Worms 2 rope implemented into WA. Majority was against it, so again as I said the poll was about to have Worms 2 rope mechanic in the game as default. But WA already have the /ir function to enable it.
Here's that official thread I talked about
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/worms-2-rope-on-wa-29753/msg250039/#msg250039
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Do i need rubberworm to watch this? I just watched without rubber and I don't get what im looking at but it doesnt look like there is any roping?
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Do i need rubberworm to watch this? I just watched without rubber and I don't get what im looking at but it doesnt look like there is any roping?
It's basically roper without rules. You can choose to get crate or not. So basically you attack and hide or get crate, it is entirely up to the player. There's also no water drop, dynamite, and the rope uses /ir that simulates the Worms 2's rope.
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Kradie, ZaR is my w2rope scheme with a bunch of instant mines all over the place, and then only zook allowed... (even the instant mine was stolen from my w2 scheme) ZaR was even "invented" one week after my w2roper scheme. we might as well say avirex invented ZaR, and someone else made it zook only rules.
please be realistic.... and then leave this thread, because your going to do nothing but derail things, and down play what im trying to do here... seriously, i like you personally, dont respond with "f@#! you avirex" or anything else... i just am trying to make people aware of this scheme, and make people aware we have a current league going, and a better one (that will support clan wars :D ) on the way. if your interested in advertising ZaR, please go make your own thread, and tell the world... (again, as nino said ;) ) but seriously, please dont continue to derail this thread!! i would appreciate it :D
so sensei, to answer your question... yes... we already have a league going, thats pretty active, and has 30+ players, but hulk(w2er) is making a better website, more personalized now... will be released in 2 days.
please dont listen to kradie....this is NOT my w2 roper scheme.
Kradie, how can you say the dyno is "such a devastating weapon" lmao... u thnk 65 dmg is devastating compared to mines @ 47 and zooks at 50?? and dont forget, nade + fd is well over a dynas power (this scheme has increased fd) you dont know what your talking about..... either that or we have different ideas of devastating, my idea of devastating would be a million instant mines on a map.
ANYWAY: i need to make this clear.... there are over 60 w2 guys back, and we keep contacting more, and each one we contact, then contacts more... there is going to be a big flood of w2ers back soon, this is a thread to welcome W:A into that circle... this is not a thread to debate if you like the scheme or not... because they dont give a f@#!.. i promise.
they originally made the league for only w2ers, but i told them i think w:a guys would be interested, and they have been opening up to others coming in.... there already are w:a guys playing... and your all welcome to play too....
so thats what this thread is about, an introduction to the scheme, and what we are doing, and an invitation to the league...... if you dont like the scheme, believe me... we dont care :D
sensei: yes, there will be a new league... it will be w2roping only... (when i say w2 roping, i mean.. the speed, and gravity.... you can use any super weap you want, you can take parachutes out, you can use no super weap, you can use 1 worms, u can use 2 worms, u can use 3 worms (IRwlz style) but, it has to be w2 roping.
rabbit: u need rubber worm
ps: i contacted IRwlz today.. he will be returning for the w2ladder as well.. im excited :DD and he has some old w2 contacts he can reach out too as well!! i really suggest all people who like to rope, to try this scheme.. and get involved... its a new game, a new competition, and new people to compete with, and meet.... DAINA, and LALO!!!! i 100% know you guys will like this scheme, and get really involved.... it might even make you guys a little more active :DD
see yaz
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It's basically roper without rules. You can choose to get crate or not. So basically you attack and hide or get crate, it is entirely up to the player.
And this works cos only 5 sec retreat. If you don't do CBA, the opponent gets your crate.
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Kradie, ZaR is my w2rope scheme with a bunch of instant mines all over the place, and then only zook allowed... (even the instant mine was stolen from my w2 scheme) ZaR was even "invented" one week after my w2roper scheme. we might as well say avirex invented ZaR, and someone else made it zook only rules.
please be realistic.... and then leave this thread, because your going to do nothing but derail things, and down play what im trying to do here... seriously, i like you personally, dont respond with "f@#! you avirex" or anything else... i just am trying to make people aware of this scheme, and make people aware we have a current league going, and a better one (that will support clan wars :D ) on the way. if your interested in advertising ZaR, please go make your own thread, and tell the world... (again, as nino said ;) ) but seriously, please dont continue to derail this thread!! i would appreciate it :D
please dont listen to kradie....this is NOT my w2 roper scheme.
Kradie, how can you say the dyno is "such a devastating weapon" lmao... u thnk 65 dmg is devastating compared to mines @ 47 and zooks at 50?? and dont forget, nade + fd is well over a dynas power (this scheme has increased fd) you dont know what your talking about..... either that or we have different ideas of devastating, my idea of devastating would be a million instant mines on a map.
Avirex, I was not aware that you ''created ZaR'' one week before its original inception.
As I stated earlier, sm0k, spleen and I, we knew about there was ONE mine in original w2roper. We just thought of having 5 instant mines which one of them are a dud. It is to punish the player's maneuvering skills, not for laughs. So no Mr Avirex, I am afraid we did not ''rob'' your scheme, but rather enhance another. with Zook and Rope (ZAR). there's not even a parachute. You could appreciate the oddity of the idea not to counter it with bigotry.
You are right, but I felt compelled to state obvious facts that are perceived from me. Which all weren't addressed back due to submission.
In the end, all roper based schemes are similar but with perks & cons.
Try and imagine a dynamite and fall damage, that's heck amount of health that goes down the drain. I would define that as ''devastating''.
Avirex, I don't have anything against you, don't worry :)
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Kradie, did you attend some law college? Cause you should.
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Ohh nice news ;)
But I would like to tell u Avi that every time i tried to join these amazing old and blabla players from w2 i got kicked
You should advice them how to treat W:A players who still want to play and learn around, ty.
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Seems like they are some kind of elitist assholes even by standards of elitist assholes :D
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I'd like to remind that the /ir feature of RubberWorm is not an accurate emulation of the Worms 2 rope. It's a simulation, like already said. The rope is still WA rope at its base, "on steroids" (speed/angle). The worms 2 rope had fundamental differences that can not be represented with a mod as simple as RubberWorm.
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lales, at the time they were not interested in playing with w:a players... they just came back to have some fun and rope with old friends...
but seems like each person that comes back, is looking through his old contacts, and bringing back other old players... this is steam rolling big time, im pretty excited about it ;D
so, yes at one time, they were quick to boot ppl, and maybe they still are... i did try to have a talk with them about this, and they are going to try to tone it down a bit, but everyone is going to have to get to know eachother... they dont know any w:a players, so they dont know if your a skilled w:a player, that knows how to rope... or if your just some newb w:a player, etc... (not to say they should boot every noob that comes into a game either)
also, majority of the games they host are w2ladder games... so, thats another reason why they might boot... you may want to join the game, and ask to watch.... etc...
joining the ladder will be a good step too... ;p
steps: we know its not exactly like w2, but its pretty similar, we are all happy with it..
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Do i need rubberworm to watch this? I just watched without rubber and I don't get what im looking at but it doesnt look like there is any roping?
It's basically roper without rules. You can choose to get crate or not. So basically you attack and hide or get crate, it is entirely up to the player. There's also no water drop, dynamite, and the rope uses /ir that simulates the Worms 2's rope.
lol kradie he means the replay doesnt function without rubberworm, he didnt need a description of what he was seeing
haha
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Do i need rubberworm to watch this? I just watched without rubber
yes http://worms2d.info/RubberWorm/Download
It's 2017 already, it's a big shame to not have RW installed now
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Everyone gets booted lales, don't take it personally ;)
Walrus, stating the obvious is something that I do :P
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most of these guys are f@#!ing noobs
that being said, a few of them are awesome.
the w2 people, that is
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actually... most all of them are good competition.... and anyway, they have been back less then a month.. some even less...
would you be pro after a 10+ year break?
anyway.. join the league if you think you can beat em ;)
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I am genuinely curious, if you like w2 rope so much, why don't you just install w2 and play that instead?
It still runs doesn't it?
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it runs yes... just not online... any other questions komo? im here for your entertainment.
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Kradie, ZaR is my w2rope scheme with a bunch of instant mines all over the place, and then only zook allowed... (even the instant mine was stolen from my w2 scheme) ZaR was even "invented" one week after my w2roper scheme. we might as well say avirex invented ZaR, and someone else made it zook only rules.
There are a few more differences than that. Also you definitely didn't invent w2roper, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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it runs yes... just not online..
Really? When did the server go down? I think the last time I played it was many years ago lol.
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it runs yes... just not online..
Really? When did the server go down? I think the last time I played it was many years ago lol.
the server is up. the problem is when you host a game and that appears with you private (domestic) ip address, not your public ip.
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The w2roper scheme that I introduced to w:a ? Yes I did invent it. (Me and shyguy to be exact)
That scheme is not the scheme that was used on w2.
I only called it that, for lack of creativity.
It was more a merge of w:a roper scheme, and w2 roper scheme... but enough things were changed where it a new scheme.
In zar, you guys literally just made it zook only, with no para, a bunch of mines and destructible map.
If the truth was told, whoever actually "invented ZaR" most likely played my w2roper scheme.... then just edited the mines, and took out weaps.
But really, it does not matter spleen... I don't need credit for the scheme, and I don't want credit for the scheme... I only mentioned it at all because kradie cans in this thread trying to derail it talking about "ZaR is better! That's a dumbed down version of ZaR!" And whatever else he said...
I just needed to remind you guys what the truth was :p
I'm just glad you guys enjoy my scheme, when I made the w2roper scheme I was really disappointed that no one really cares for it, or gave it much of a chance.. so I'm glad you guys got some enjoyment out of my scheme, no matter what variation of weapons you decided to use.
PS: invite my to ZaR, make me admin and founder lol.. JK :p
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DHL post.
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In zar, you guys literally just made it zook only, with no para, a bunch of mines and destructible map.
If the truth was told, whoever actually "invented ZaR" most likely played my w2roper scheme.... then just edited the mines, and took out weaps.
I just needed to remind you guys what the truth was :p
My sweet little Avirex... As I mentioned earlier but was somewhat dismissed in your post, is that ZaR was inspired by ''a'' Worms 2 roper scheme, and was adjusted to perfection to suit a crowd that sought a tougher challenge.
I can now safely assume that your version of Worms 2 Roper was NOT intended from the start to become what ZAR is today. But ''now'' you seem more inclined to emphasize on the truth that YOU are the architect of ZaR, and that you were robbed off. You never had the ambition as sm0k, spleen and I had from the beginning. You are merely grasping the threads to adjust to a more satisfying reality where you could have been a part of but never was.
So Mr Avirex, do you still feel like being part of ZaR? Without any special tittles and powers? :)
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If you add a bunch of instant mines to wxw, and make it zook only.. it's still wxw
If you add salt to an apple, and make it zook only, it's still an apple.
But to answer your question, I'm not interested in being in zar community, I am very glad you guys enjoy it though...
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If you add salt to an apple, you no longer have apple. You have *uuhhh* apple-salt. Proof:
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MI.... really? I finally got that song out of my head because my manager showed this to me one time and i couldn't stop listening to it or troll my co-workers at work with it...
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That meme was the cancer itself, it is the perfect evidence why 2016 was bad. ;D
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if u add salt to an apple it becomes Isalt! cos apple.
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If you add a bunch of instant mines to wxw, and make it zook only.. it's still wxw
If you add salt to an apple, and make it zook only, it's still an apple.
But to answer your question, I'm not interested in being in zar community, I am very glad you guys enjoy it though...
Your analysis is a bit flawed Mr Avirex.
If one add a couple of instant mines on the terrain, and have bazooka and rope available in inventory, it should be called ''ZaR WxW'' because it helps separate the two schemes.
Like other schemes with the identical paradigms.
Should you call the scheme Elite for ''Normal Elite''?
Just because some settings are tweaked?
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I am actually pretty gutted because this seems so exciting, but won't play because won't use Rubberworm and can't handle the difference in gravity, it will effect my skill with normal rope too much.
Good luck though, hope it works out well :)
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If you add a bunch of instant mines to wxw, and make it zook only.. it's still wxw
If you add salt to an apple, and make it zook only, it's still an apple.
But to answer your question, I'm not interested in being in zar community, I am very glad you guys enjoy it though...
Your analysis is a bit flawed Mr Avirex.
If one add a couple of instant mines on the terrain, and have bazooka and rope available in inventory, it should be called ''ZaR WxW'' because it helps separate the two schemes.
You just agreed with me, and made my point, without even knowing it... anyway, I'm sure we can agree on one thing though...
Who gives a shit? 8)
Komo, it would be a shame if you did not give this a try, and possibly even like it... only because you won't use rubber?
Are you the sane guy that was calling people an "elitist community" because they have not opened their minds up to all the great schemes outside of classic?
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I use rubber on my other computers, to watch / test schemes for fun.
Even if I was happy to use rubber, the reason I wouldn't play this scheme is because the gravity is so different from normal roping.
I play Big RR / WxW / Roper a lot and even TTRR in Leagues sometimes, now, you know me, if I like something, I get addicted to it, getting used to both gravities is just too much time for me, maybe if I was 15 again with no job / ambition :D
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I'll be honest, it will take a couple games to get used to the w2 style rope...
And each time you play the w:a style, then you go back to w2 style you will want to take your first couple turns slow, until you get warmed up..
But going from w2 to WA is much easier... intact, it almost makes you better.. once you get used to roping w2 speed, WA feels like its in slow motion, super easy to control, and childs play.
I'm Not just saying this to convince you to play... it's actually true. But, of you don't want to play, that's fine.
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I'm thinking about giving this a go...
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You would like it Ryan... and there is slot of good competition so far... these guys been back less then a month(after ten+ years), and still they owning..
I'll post link to new league soon...