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Ill be more clear on my question, so many us here play WA for more than 15 years, and for many, including me,  WA is not the same as before, even playing rarely 1 or 2, it is not like it used to be back in the days, when we used to spent hours, days, weekends playing this game and f@#! society, f@#! pussies, f@#! everything  ;D

My question is more for old schools like Anubis, Darkz and others

So my question is, why did you stop playing like you used to?

Ill answer by myself, i did stop cos life stared to ask much more time from me than b4, so much work and time with gf/wife made me play each time less, and i dunno for you guys but WA for me must be all or nothing, playing 1 game or 2 is not so funny, cos you lose the fun of competition and each time you play and see u r so f@#!ing slow/rusty to play, comes a nostalgia that makes you feel a bit sad for few minutes and bleh, you just dont feel playing again for long time ahead.

Well Thats what happens with me, like so many can see here, i just cant leave this community, i still spend a lot of time on forum trolling putos and posting my shits on threads, so what is in ur minds old putos?

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :D

I will just quote the legend Axl Rose here:

Quote'Cause nothin' lasts forever. And we both know hearts can change

I became an inactive fart for 3 reasons (I'll write them in order of importance): lack of motivation to play, less free time, CS GO.

Quote from: Csongi on November 04, 2016, 08:03 AMI became an inactive fart for 3 reasons (I'll write them in order of importance): lack of motivation to play, less free time, CS GO.

I highly doubt that CS is the least important
actually, I'm pretty sure it's the reason of the rest of reasons

Nope, I don't play that much CS, so I would still have some free time for W:A.

Tanki Online. xD

I get bored and stop, I come back when I crave that "feeling" you get from throwing down unbelievable warmer turns and having great chillz

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on November 04, 2016, 10:20 AM
Tanki Online. xD

worst reason ever lol

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on November 04, 2016, 10:20 AM
Tanki Online. xD

sounds like assbest, pls ban

Quote from: KinslayeR on November 04, 2016, 12:27 PM

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on November 04, 2016, 10:20 AM
Tanki Online. xD

sounds like assbest, pls ban

Finally ban Lagnan? (http://www.fallingfalling.com/) by Kinuslapper (https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/KinslayeR/)

Quote from: nino on November 04, 2016, 02:08 AM
playing 1 game or 2 is not so funny, cos you lose the fun of competition and each time you play and see u r so f@#!ing slow/rusty to play, comes a nostalgia that makes you feel a bit sad for few minutes and bleh, you just dont feel playing again for long time ahead.

This :( but i still try to fight :D

Life.

Quote from: nino on November 04, 2016, 02:08 AM
Ill be more clear on my question, so many us here play WA for more than 15 years, and for many, including me,  WA is not the same as before, even playing rarely 1 or 2, it is not like it used to be back in the days, when we used to spent hours, days, weekends playing this game and f@#! society, f@#! pussies, f@#! everything  ;D

My question is more for old schools like Anubis, Darkz and others

So my question is, why did you stop playing like you used to?

Ill answer by myself, i did stop cos life stared to ask much more time from me than b4, so much work and time with gf/wife made me play each time less, and i dunno for you guys but WA for me must be all or nothing, playing 1 game or 2 is not so funny, cos you lose the fun of competition and each time you play and see u r so f@#!ing slow/rusty to play, comes a nostalgia that makes you feel a bit sad for few minutes and bleh, you just dont feel playing again for long time ahead.

Well Thats what happens with me, like so many can see here, i just cant leave this community, i still spend a lot of time on forum trolling putos and posting my shits on threads, so what is in ur minds old putos?

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :D

Interesting question, I also often wondered why I lost so much interest in W:A. I could probably write a huge essay as to why but I will try to make it short.

The number 1 reason is pretty simple, during 2000-2008 I had shit Internet and my PC wasn't the strongest. W:A ran with everything and thus I spent all day on W:A because my hardware was simply not good enough for other games. When I got DSL Light (still shitty but workable) I had finally access to other online games like WoW or CS. Suddenly I had choices that I never had before and since I already played so much W:A I stopped playing it as much, I never quit altogether but surely cut my time spent on W:A in half. I was still active on W:A, just not as much.

Then there is the community. The people I grew up with are just gone, imagine living in a village where everyone you knew died/moved away and when you meet new people it's not the same to me. W:A has always been a place where everyone knew everyone, but for me it's different now. When I go online I just see foreign faces that I have no connection with. I rarely host a warmer or RR and feel sad when all I get is some unknown guy I don't have any memory from the past with. There are exceptions such as Kaleu, Peja and sbaffo. They are about the only "new" guys I am happy to see/talk to and consider them to be actual contacts from the new generation that I would label as friends. I know this sounds harsh but that are my thoughts. I feel like those 3 guys would have also enjoyed the past more than the current game. sbaffo would love the competition with all oldies and wouldn't need to deal with so much shit, while we also had avoiders/noob bashers they were just so many good players they would never be able to get in PO spots. Kaleu is genuinely interested in the past and Peja is kind of the guy I wish existed back then because he is an excellent listener that won't judge you, he reminds me of Karol (sharky/nakra) quite a bit, just more crazy lol.

Then there is the loss of warmers. While old people left, not many new people filled in the shoes in that scheme. It was my #1 played scheme outside of league activities. Warmer is the greatest with 3-4 people that all are close in skill which you simply can't find today anymore unless you are really really lucky. If you think finding a clanner is hard, try finding 3-4 similar skilled warmers nowadays.

Then obviously, because you play less and less you see your skill decline. While I am always decent at roping due to the sheer amount of roping I did in my life regardless of breaks. My other schemes suffered a lot. My BnG is horrendous compared to older times, I know it was "just" notching but I had it mastered to the point that even trick shots weren't a problem. Elite is another scheme I probably would lose 90% of my games vs. my former self simply because of lack of bng skills. Having the ability to 100% shoot petrol bombs where you want is crucial in elite for example.

If I had to name an order what "killed" W:A for me the most here is a TLDR version:

1. Bored of W:A; Access to other online games
2. Community changed; loss of friends
3. Loss of warmers altogether
4. Loss of personal competitive skill as a result of 1-3 and playing less

The problem is Anubis, you do not take the time to familiarize yourself with new people. Sit down, try and have a conversation with them. WA is like any other games, a game to play and people to chat with.
You almost seem a little condescending, a common trait a lot of people possess.

The issue is simple, a lot of old school people tend to stick together, clinging on to something that once was but is not any longer present. Ergo the inextricably longing ruins the game overall experience. Although, this does not mean the game is dead, it is dead because of you narrowed sight but understandingly so. You should not neglect what is now, the past only exist because of memories and will not return.

Sadly like most games, a person will only gain recognition through competitive play, if not, they will be ignored. Then again, this is how it works, I would think.

There are many factors as to why I don't sit down to new people and get to know them. The biggest problem is the language barrier, it easily filters out half or even more of the community. Broken English is just unbearable for me.

I disagree about the recognition, back then warmer clans were highly respected (ie.: NBR, qp) and they are remembered to this date as one of the best ropers of all time and not for their competitive play.

What was your name back then because I don't recognize it and as such I can't take many points to heart because well, I dunno if we are even on the same ground, lol.

I just liked the elitist community from back then waaay better than what is left of it now. After FB was shut down it all went to shit, many of my friends stopped playing, all the leagues after FB were far worse quality-wise, lots of new faces appeared on WNet who mostly couldn't even speak proper English or were just incredibly annoying like Chelsea or Kradie.
I actually tried to cope with the situation but in the long run there was nothing I would be interested in except for clanners. And even those were kinda boring. I mean not even the forums are interesting anymore, I only come here out of habit.

Then Dota 2 was released and it was just so much more interesting than ye olde half-dead W:A.

Just like Csongi, I still have a decent amount of free time and could technically play W:A for a couple hours a day but at this point it's just not appealing anymore, not even slightly.

Community didn't change (that much..), you did. There are still many skilled and talkative ppl in #ag. Main problem is you guys are not a teenagers anymore and can't seem to get a grip for new generations, which is totally fine.

These "old school stories" were interesting at first, but now it feels like all you do is getting nostalgic and repeating lines. We got it...

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 03:39 PM
These "old school stories" were interesting at first, but now it feels like all you do is getting nostalgic and repeating lines. We got it...

+1
Also I dont get why the old schoolers who are too good for the new generation are still active on this forum

Yeah man you tell me what to think, that's exactly what's wrong with this place.

And anyone who says the community didn't change much probably just wasn't there before it did.

It's not appealing anymore since I discovered Dota 2, also that inactivity shit is real, I'm just following the pattern.

Darkz was playing Dota for 2 years before I discovered it and now I'm 600+ hours of gameplay ahead xD, that's how you measure my new addiction.

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Quote from: Kaleu on November 04, 2016, 04:09 PM

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It's not appealing anymore since I discovered Dota 2, also that inactivity shit is real, I'm just following the pattern.

Darkz was playing Dota for 2 years before I discovered it and now I'm 600+ hours of gameplay ahead xD, that's how you measure my new addiction.

That's because I played Path of Exile for 1.6k hours in the meantime, hah. :D

wormers leaving killed wormers :[

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 03:39 PM
Community didn't change (that much..), you did. There are still many skilled and talkative ppl in #ag. Main problem is you guys are not a teenagers anymore and can't seem to get a grip for new generations, which is totally fine.

These "old school stories" were interesting at first, but now it feels like all you do is getting nostalgic and repeating lines. We got it...

This is very true Sensei.

There was so much stories involving old school players, praising their abilities and such, but in the end it go too tiresome to listen. In fact, some of these so called highly praised upper class players don't really have a charming attitude. Even today's generation, not a lot of people have an humble and accepting attitude.

@Anubis: I understand, it isn't easy for me or anyone else with a decent amount of English expertise to understand others with inferior English capacity.
It often leads others vulnerable to misunderstandings and discouragements to continue playing. Ergo the community shrinks, and gets divided.

Perhaps it is a lot to ask for automatic language translation to be included in the coming WA update(s).

But in the end, the inevitable truth is: WA is a nostalgia box for old school players who reminisces of good old times, and the new players who play mostly for fun.

Can you newfags please read the OP again, this is not a place for you guys to post your blogs. Gtfo and keep your ignorant opinions for yourselves or share them elsewhere, thanks.

Nino asked why oldies stopped, we take the effort and name a few points and then get assaulted by people that don't even have a clue what we mean for no reason because we answer the OP? This generation/community...

Quote from: darKz on November 04, 2016, 05:17 PM
Can you newfags please read the OP again, this is not a place for you guys to post your blogs. Gtfo and keep your ignorant opinions for yourselves or share them elsewhere, thanks.

Sadly, this is a prime example of a behavior that isn't needed. It doesn't help anyone.

It's revolting.

Anubis: Assaulted?? Haha... Ok,sorry for that.
Darkz: "newfags" ? Really?

I see where this is going. Continue with reminiscenceing your WA career, not gonna interfeer anymore.
Cheers.

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 05:35 PM
Anubis: Assaulted?? Haha... Ok,sorry for that.
Darkz: "newfags" ? Really?

I see where this is going. Continue with reminiscenceing your WA career, not gonna interfeer anymore.
Cheers.

Except we are not portraying our career, merely showcasing what made us play less/quit. You know, what the thread is about.  :-\

Quit cause bored of the game. Busy playing other games or doing more interesting shit, like jacking off to gay hentai porn.

Newschoolers are right, oldschoolers are right. Yer all idiots.
Except me of course. I'm the only normal guy here.

Only thing that brings me back at this point is online ranks. And when that's done I'll quit after 2 weeks 8)

same ol' same ol' :D

i always feel that time i spent in WA was the most useless in my life

1. Career.
2. I host a TTRR and no one joins.

There are more but those 2 are gamechangers.

1. I don't have the same squad of mole friends than I used to. Any victory feels like a victory on a desert.
2. Spending most of my time with 1 person

Wow, sensei and kradie, get a grip. 

The community HAS changed, it isn't the same.  I don't even know why you are posting on the comparative changes when you weren't even playing during that era.  It sounds like you guys have an inferiority complex more than anything.  When I hosted warmers in 2000, my hosts would overflow with people.  Ropers were hard to get into as a noob, there was so many people.  The english speaking countries were heavily engaged, with too many active players to get anywhere near knowing everyone.

Now hardly any randoms speak english or play anything other than mole shopper.  Competitive play is nerfed.  Clanner activity isn't diverse, you are playing samee people/clans over and over.  The one good thing about the community is everyone knows everyone I guess, but it isn't diverse.  There used to be 100+ worms websites, now there is 10?  Maybe?

The community isn't the same just because you guys say it is.

In fact I only play because of a few people, oldsock, saltyk9, gabriel, sensei, peja.  If these people weren't playing, I would quit.

Quote from: HHC on November 04, 2016, 05:39 PM
jacking off to gay hentai porn.

Quote from: HHC on November 04, 2016, 05:39 PM
I'm the only normal guy here.

LOL

Just said some of these "golden era of wa" stories starting to repeat themselves. Which really is a fact. I've seen it in 100+ threads already.

After that anubis said I've assaulted him, darkz called me newfag and walrus talking about inferiority complex?


Hahah. At least it's always amusing on tus if wnet is dying.

Turn based games gets me bored already... (unlike Real Time Project X module few years ago)

I'll repeat my question: what are you old schoolers doing on this board? You dont even play worms and yet you still spend time here spitting hatred against the "new generation". Im curious because I dont get it.

I stopped playing actively for the fairly common reasons:

Went to uni
Got a Job

I never came back to active play for the same reasons already mentioned, by the time I found the time too play, those I enjoyed playing with had also stopped playing and I no longer had the time available to start from scratch.

As for why do we even bother coming to places like this? Personally, and I know many of the others are the same, I got involved in the development side of the game instead both with updates and wormkit modules / tools. You don't have to be an active player to be involved in the game.

Quote from: TheWalrus on November 04, 2016, 07:06 PM
Wow, sensei and kradie, get a grip. 

The community HAS changed, it isn't the same.  I don't even know why you are posting on the comparative changes when you weren't even playing during that era.  It sounds like you guys have an inferiority complex more than anything.  When I hosted warmers in 2000, my hosts would overflow with people.  Ropers were hard to get into as a noob, there was so many people.  The english speaking countries were heavily engaged, with too many active players to get anywhere near knowing everyone.

Now hardly any randoms speak english or play anything other than mole shopper.  Competitive play is nerfed.  Clanner activity isn't diverse, you are playing samee people/clans over and over.  The one good thing about the community is everyone knows everyone I guess, but it isn't diverse.  There used to be 100+ worms websites, now there is 10?  Maybe?

The community isn't the same just because you guys say it is.

In fact I only play because of a few people, oldsock, saltyk9, gabriel, sensei, peja.  If these people weren't playing, I would quit.

We know this. Old school people has to adapt this generation or stop reminiscing everyday about a time that is over.

As with any other games, people play because of the network they build. When their network shrinks, the reason to stay is less relevant.
And of course there's ''Life'' obligation that takes over.

Speaking of inferiority complex, I detect superiority complex.

Thanks for the replies ae!!!

The new putos will be old putos one day just w8 aeee!!!

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 07:38 PM
Just said some of these "golden era of wa" stories starting to repeat themselves. Which really is a fact. I've seen it in 100+ threads already.

After that anubis said I've assaulted him, darkz called me newfag and walrus talking about inferiority complex?


Hahah. At least it's always amusing on tus if wnet is dying.

You assaulted us like we did something wrong or are saying not the truth. Again, please read the very first entry. It's nino, directly asking me why I stopped. Then you guys jump in and claim no it's not the reasons, like what the hell?

Quote from: Anubis on November 04, 2016, 09:31 PM

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 07:38 PM
Just said some of these "golden era of wa" stories starting to repeat themselves. Which really is a fact. I've seen it in 100+ threads already.

After that anubis said I've assaulted him, darkz called me newfag and walrus talking about inferiority complex?


Hahah. At least it's always amusing on tus if wnet is dying.

You assaulted us like we did something wrong or are saying not the truth. Again, please read the very first entry. It's nino, directly asking me why I stopped. Then you guys jump in and claim no it's not the reasons, like what the hell?

Then again, topics on tus are known to go way off topic. Besides, Mr Nino could had easily pm'ed you.

Or, alternatively you guys could not bother spewing your non-sense into a topic you have no idea about. Nino asked all oldies, and mentioned me and darkz as an example. Now if you don't mind, I will ignore your posts and we can move on, shall we?

Quote from: Kradie on November 04, 2016, 09:41 PM

Quote from: Anubis on November 04, 2016, 09:31 PM

Quote from: Sensei on November 04, 2016, 07:38 PM
Just said some of these "golden era of wa" stories starting to repeat themselves. Which really is a fact. I've seen it in 100+ threads already.

After that anubis said I've assaulted him, darkz called me newfag and walrus talking about inferiority complex?


Hahah. At least it's always amusing on tus if wnet is dying.

You assaulted us like we did something wrong or are saying not the truth. Again, please read the very first entry. It's nino, directly asking me why I stopped. Then you guys jump in and claim no it's not the reasons, like what the hell?

Then again, topics on tus are known to go way off topic. Besides, Mr Nino could had easily pm'ed you.

Maybe he wants to know more opinions from other retired wormers. Can't they give their opinion without being judged?

I always wanted to quit this game forever but I have some bounderies here and there. I don't enjoy this game as I used to and it's boring to play the same people time after time. New generations aren't competitive -except Sbaffo- and I don't see myself playing Shoppa, Mole, Tower Race and so on, I'd rather take a nap.

Quote from: Anubis on November 04, 2016, 10:06 PM
Or, alternatively you guys could not bother spewing your non-sense into a topic you have no idea about. Nino asked all oldies, and mentioned me and darkz as an example. Now if you don't mind, I will ignore your posts and we can move on, shall we?

A lot of the material submitted by various users on these boards are nonsense.

I simply evoked a discussion and conveyed from there. Unfortunately, the content result was overwhelmingly offending leading to hostile behavior.

@lalo: My condescending remark in regards to Mr Anubis was no insult, it was simply an observation to his first post. Unfortunately, Mr DarkZ took the liberty to insult me. Of course I was not offended.

Yes, go ahead, share, share to your heart's content.

yeah, oldschool posts about the past isn't new to tus, what's new is newcomers now being rude to oldies.

there was so much talk about past because people actually enjoyed to read it, everybody wanted to feel themselve oldschool and tried to figure out how the things went back in the old days.  now its simillar to late W:WP, join ag and hope for a random play, no more players or clans considered to be "cool"

tus is the last reason community didnt fell apart yet, and yet you want tus to fall apart, its funny because everyone iis in the very same boat
ye sthis post sucks f@#! me

Quote from: Impossible on November 04, 2016, 10:39 PM
yeah, oldschool posts about the past isn't new to tus, what's new is newcomers now being rude to oldies.

While this may be true, you're looking past the fact that oldschoolers tend to be dismissive of the current community. So pretty much, the current community doesn't like being dismissed like that, so they dismiss the oldschoolers. And then the oldschoolers don't like being dismissed like that etcetera...

The next stage is skill comparisons.

At least Wally got it. Cheers man, we may not always have been on the same wavelength but I think you're a bro nonetheless.

nino you know we're gonna meet some day either in Europe or Brazil, I'm very much looking forward to that.

D1 we could extend this discussion up until infinity, but there's just no point. I know you like to take a neutral stance and I'm sure you know that so do I, but there's not the slightest bit of respect anymore towards the old players, the prime example being this very thread.

When I started playing, clans like SfX or NBR were heavily respected due to their superiority in gameplay (and tbh Anubis and I would still beat the SHIT out of every newschool player who's posted here even though we haven't played in a year or more). That respect went down the drain, there's nothing left of it. The new Facebook generation thinks they're special because they post 5 status updates per day and get 50 likes or something when all they can do is rope in a straight line for 5 seconds on a Shopper map.

You guys may think this thread is about reminiscing of old times when all it ever was was a simple question of a fellow old school wormer which was directly adressed at us. But nowadays people feel they need to post their f@#!ing opinion to pretty much EVERYTHING. I don't get why you can't just STFU and go elsewhere with your opinions when this thread CLEARLY wasn't intended for you to reply.

And idk Kradie, I'm not even gonna apologize to you. I'm known to be a rather calm, friendly and forgiving person but you're just annoying the f@#! out of me.

Old community was great. New community is great. I feel like this 10 billions of hours playing a game when I was 12 just to get recognized by a bunch of strangers were for sure useless but I had fun.
It feels like comparing your childhood virtual friends with your adult ones ahaha.
I am lucky to have been with such amazing clan mates and I wish I could play with old member that became inactive but I love the newer members as much as the old ones.
I stopped caring about being the best a long time ago.
I am not playing but I wish I had the time to.

Quote from: Ryan on November 05, 2016, 12:05 AMThe next stage is skill comparisons.

Quote from: darKz on November 05, 2016, 03:13 AMand tbh Anubis and I would still beat the SHIT out of every newschool player who's posted here even though we haven't played in a year or more

;)

Yeah reduce the entirety of my post to that one line. Way to go. Idiot.

How dare you not pay any respect to darkz's roping abilities in 2003?? You bunch of shopper playing newcomer bitches!!!

It's the person who you are, not the person you used to be that matter, and right now Mr Darkz, you are not winning any respect from me. Of course, your Intention may not to acquire my awe for you, but instead you use the past to justify the present.

I am not saying the past is irrelevant Mr Darkz, but using your old trophies as defense are.

Don't worry about that apology, I'm not expecting one, nor did I request one. 
After all, it is who you are now that matters ;)

Quote from: darKz on November 05, 2016, 03:13 AM
nino you know we're gonna meet some day either in Europe or Brazil, I'm very much looking forward to that.

Indeed ae! I should've made that trip b4, now iam just full of bills to pay cos bought new apartment, going to live with gf, about to make a lil nino or nina soon huahuahuahuaha, but doors are opens ae! if you decide to come u have a place to stay and i can reserve some time to show you nice places cos king!!!!

Quote from: KomitoWow, and people say I have a god complex lol...

1st off, the only good thing about being oldschool was activity, the honest truth is we were all whiny little teenager just like the current generation.

2nd, you talk about nobody respecting oldschoolers anymore, hmmmm nope, I get plenty respect, walrus gets plenty respect, so does avirex and others, maybe you and Anubis don't because you guys are so far up each others vaginas! Respect is earnt not taken and you guys have done nothing to earn it from the new generation all you do is mock them.

3rd, you guys weren't even that special, none of us are/were, Anubis was a "god of warmer" whoop dee f**king doo, a scheme no one gives a f**k about anymore and thinks he demands respect for it, darkz and Anubis were very good all-rounders but can't even accept any scheme outside their comfort zone from pre 2006...

Tbh I'm glad guys like you don't play anymore, I might whine on forums but at least I put some effort into playing and chatting with new guys in other schemes, I even watch schemes I don't like just to interact with new community...

There are so many cool, talented, friendly and fun people to chill with in this game but you are too close minded and stubborn to see it...

You guys are focused way too much on competition, skill, and totally lost the whole point to this game, there are guys like Hurz who is like nurturing parents with non-stop giving and respect and caring, then guys like you who abandon family once you are bored.

You guys are an embarrassment to this community, do you even have 1 good thing to say about new generation or is everyone inferior?

It is nice to see Komo even banned dont leave the debate  :D :D

:D :D :D :D

He is giving a crap at least  :)

that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"  says more about the current state of competitive WA than chelsea being #1 overall player, useless big maps warning rule discussions, and cfc winning this league for 2 straight years, altogether. 

Laptop started on fire.

Quote from: darKz on November 05, 2016, 03:13 AM
D1 we could extend this discussion up until infinity, but there's just no point. I know you like to take a neutral stance [...]

Perhaps these discussions wouldn't last until infinity if more people would be willing to take a neutral look at problems/disagreements ;)

To get back on topic:

Personally, I quit W:A over personal issues and never quite got the bug again when I got back (except the odd TUS cup). At some point, I stopped playing, but was still handling complaints, so that drove me away for a few months.
Not in a hurry to restart moderation for that reason, tbh :) Busy with something else though! I'm hoping I'll finish it before my vacation, but probably not, though

i actually agree with komo... darkz, you sound like the elitist piece of shit that you miss..

how can you even say any shit about your "elitist friends in FB, FB was the shit, after FB i cried, no league will ever be as good as FB"

your an idiot.

FB sucked, and everyone thought FB sucked, except for those people who hung on the balls of that giraffe looking mother f@#!er Kiros.

if you were sucking kiros dick, he would suck your dick back... if not, the ban stick got waved to everyone... remember when he wanted to close FB down, and only only those who sucked his dick to participate?? yeah man, that was good time, what a great league.. gtfo.

TBH: anubis did not really do, or say anything wrong... he answered the question from the original post, kradie and sensai had no business disputing his opinion... but f@#! it, its worms forum, thats what we do... thats what we always have done.. even in the past, with the elitist FB crew.

darkz, honestly, you sound like some bitter old war vet, that wants respect, and thinks he should get it, just because your an oldschooler who graces us with your presence on forums once a month...

if your basing levels of respect on the amount of time you played the game, then you should respond to my thread with the up most respect, because i am to you, as you are to kradie and sensei... being im an oldschool w2 player...

so, if your not a hypocrite, talk to me like a gent, and i wont accept anything less.

QuoteTBH: anubis did not really do, or say anything wrong... he answered the question from the original post, kradie and sensai had no business disputing his opinion... but f@#! it, its worms forum, thats what we do... thats what we always have done.. even in the past, with the elitist FB crew.

As did I Mr Avirex. I followed up on question and gave answers to them, but that resulted ignition.

In the end, it's just another day in the yard.

Quote from: Kradie on November 05, 2016, 11:23 PM
In the end, it's just another day in the yard.

Did you check the henhouse? It's a massacre. The roosters gone mental, some lost half their feathers. The hens are ill at ease and lay no eggs. There's tension in the air. It's gonna be a long, warm summer.

Quote from: darKz on November 05, 2016, 04:27 AMIdiot.

That's not how you gain respect.

Quote from: Peja on November 05, 2016, 01:32 PM
that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"

Sorry for offtopic, just curious. Why did you include the legend's nationality in there? Why not simply "WA legends" ?

Quote from: DarkOne on November 05, 2016, 09:43 PM
Not in a hurry to restart moderation for that reason, tbh :) Busy with something else though! I'm hoping I'll finish it before my vacation, but probably not, though

So that's still an option!! ;D

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on November 06, 2016, 06:26 AM

Quote from: Peja on November 05, 2016, 01:32 PM
that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"

Sorry for offtopic, just curious. Why did you include the legend's nationality in there? Why not simply "WA legends" ?

good question.

kradie, i wish yu were closer to my 5 fingers... Shhhhhbbbbbaaaammmmmm

Quote from: Hurz on November 06, 2016, 06:41 AM

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on November 06, 2016, 06:26 AM

Quote from: Peja on November 05, 2016, 01:32 PM
that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"

Sorry for offtopic, just curious. Why did you include the legend's nationality in there? Why not simply "WA legends" ?

good question.

i was looking for the most stupid title to describe the situation.
"free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends" sounds much more ridiculous than "free league enthusiasts insulting WA legends" because its more detailed.

No one insulted anyone here, except darkz when he started calling ppl idiots and fags out of nowhere. Weird act for 30 y/o guy.

This community is alive and will be as long there are these kind of dramas happening. That's why most of us come back. About competivity - well, that's a bit harder to dig. Not much friendly pro's on wnet to show a way for newcomers. They all moan about league dying, but no one seem to care enough to bring some new members. Quite funny.

talking about cups, am I the only one who noticed it's much less active than before? I'm not the biggest fan of cups but even that is alerting for me

Quote from: Sensei on November 06, 2016, 08:35 AM
No one insulted anyone here, except darkz when he started calling ppl idiots and fags out of nowhere. Weird act for 30 y/o guy.

This community is alive and will be as long there are these kind of dramas happening. That's why most of us come back. About competivity - well, that's a bit harder to dig. Not much friendly pro's on wnet to show a way for newcomers. They all moan about league dying, but no one seem to care enough to bring some new members. Quite funny.

lets face it im not a good player, but i had the privilege of being around people with an insane knowledge of this game.
if i had to pick the people who impressed me the most (in no particular order) it would be:
allround:
KRD, darkz, anubis, random00, barman, mablak, chicken23, ropa

specialists:
lacoste, komo, free, HHC

underrated widely skilled players:
gabriel, kaleu, korydex

competetive players:
daina, (insert huge gap)       , people like almog, lukz, sbaffo, lalo and so on.

if anyone of these people (and the ones i forgot to mention) states that nowadays skill level does not challenge them anymore, it is legit. telling them they are wrong is like walking straight to the zen master and tell him he does not know shit about ball. it is an flat out insult towards their knowledge of this game and the effort it takes to get there, furthermore its disrespectful.

Quote from: Peja on November 05, 2016, 01:32 PM
that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"  says more about the current state of competitive WA than chelsea being #1 overall player, useless big maps warning rule discussions, and cfc winning this league for 2 straight years, altogether.

2 years straight, 15 seasons in tus and can't remember the number on XTC league, maybe 2 or 3? Not bad  :-*

Quote from: lalo on November 06, 2016, 10:22 AM

Quote from: Peja on November 05, 2016, 01:32 PM
that moment when "why did you stop playing WA" turns into "free league enthusiasts insulting german WA legends"  says more about the current state of competitive WA than chelsea being #1 overall player, useless big maps warning rule discussions, and cfc winning this league for 2 straight years, altogether.

2 years straight, 15 seasons in tus and can't remember the number on XTC league, maybe 2 or 3? Not bad  :-*

whats xtc league?

Yes, its amazing what cfc has done, you guys win the dedication award for sure, no one has played this game more than you guys when other clans died off and so forth.

xtc was right before tus

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It is rather difficult to grasp that a 30 year old would take the liberty to act inimical.

Ah Mr ANO, you are the pinnacle of diplomacy.

Sensei is right again. Most professional players or those that are affiliated with old school, often anticipate respect. Once you belong to a place of elite, everything else become irrelevant.
It's just like a celebrity, it gets to your head.

Thankfully, not everyone are like this.

Lol peja. My intention was not to be discrespectful or belittle any of these guys. Their "old times were amazing" stories is smth i can't listen any more. Isn't the forum right place to speak up your mind?

Wtf is with all of this crap to pay respect to someone who taps on his kb, anyway!? Some guys here apparently think that monuments should be build for that accoplishment. Chill ppl..

Alright here is my last thought on this subject.

You don't loathe respect from people you don't know. You want respect from people that you think are respectable persons. I personally always respected the high skilled ropers of a time, and wanted to be part of them and as such I wanted to earn their respect. These people are long gone for me in terms of new guys (with the exception of sbaffo and Kaleu, which I feel respect me just fine), and I have earned that respect long time ago in a time where my activity in-game was more honored and valued because the community still cared for it. What annoys me is the inability to realize that a community in itself is ever changing and some people, probably due to lack of english knowledge don't know the meaning of it. The very definition of it means it's constantly changing because people leave and join and with them mentality, attitude and interest within the community.

A community has sub-communities, like a village has youngsters, elders and adults, a game community has sub-communities to different aspects of the game. Like in W:A you have ropers, defaults, bng etc. or in a MMO you have PvE, PvP, Trading. Over time the sub-communities in a community change, thus claiming a community didn't change is ignorant, lying and blatant dumb. That is just the objectively observation of the word itself. Also, leagues have influenced W:A heavily. Be it through bans of key figures of the community like for example ropa. While he doesn't hold any weight in our current community he was a respectable person to the higher circle of wormers in terms of skill. Frankly, forum software included a global ban on him so whenever he registered he would get banned. lol TUS pushed Hysteria to be competitive and as such it became a competitive scheme. Under a more traditional league Hysteria would probably not be as popular. So, yeah a community is always changing. Even now I can differentiate between 2016 TUS and the beginning of it which I barely visited.

Subjectively it also changed simply because I can compare now and then. And now I can not host a warmer and fill it to the brim with like minded people while back then I could. That is subjective change. And to sum it up, you (the new guys I have not spend any time with) can't even tell if you or anyone else would respect me anyway. You know 1% of my personality, my activity in game or anything. In fact, you base it on my skill/attitude of today, which is a lot different than it was 10 years ago. For example I can still respect old warming Komo while not liking the new BnG one, but you can't. You would have to judge me based on a picture without having access to a book. There is no simple button to click and you can re-watch everything I have done/said in the past and judge me like people from the actual past could. For example when Komo thinks I am not a respectable person then at least he had access to experiences from the past. When some random guy approaches me and says he doesn't respect me I just don't care because he has no base other then a fraction of posts/activity I did over the years here. My 1,5k posts or whatever I have here are nothing compared to the overall input I have given over time, be it in-game through chat or older leagues and forums.

Few names:

MI - volountarily running this kindergarten with few ppl around him, doing great job over the years. Never asked ppl to respect him.

Steps, DC, CS.. - they're the "guilty" ones for having W:A updated after 18 yrs.. Never asked ppl to respect them.

SiD - always ready to help, one of the greatest allrounders I've seen - never asked ppl to respect him.


I can go on, but you got the point. I don't give a flying f@#! for the ppl that are, like avirex said, begging to get respected and go around threads saying how big they once were while meanwhile shitting on "leftovers" of previous communities.

Quote from: Sensei on November 06, 2016, 02:52 PM
Few names:

MI - volountarily running this kindergarten with few ppl around him, doing great job over the years. Never asked ppl to respect him.

Actually, if you don't respect MI he will ban you. ropa doesn't respect MI at all and he was banned multiple times and for months. :x It's a little bit different to not respect someone that has total control over you when you want to be competitive. Quickly respect turns into fear that way. ;)

The community will always change, and it is your responsibility to adapt if you wish to be part of it. Instead, you have acquired people of this generation that you deem worthy in  your own self image, and resented the rest.

It seems to me that the reason why you don't play, is that you are afraid not being able to accumulate the respect you once had.  Instead you have what you have now, and keep to your sob stories.
Worms Armageddon is still a great game, and I think you have stumbled too far away from the tree to recognize it.

I do not loathe you Anubis. You are just a regular dude like the rest of us.
Don't let your ego consume you.

When it comes to Administrator, it is his/her responsibility not to be emotionally involved, and to be able to take appropriate action when it is needed. Neutral, and objective stance is important for an admin.
I am sure those who have been muted, banned etc in the past, have been given a fair chance.

I believe that MonkeyIsland does a good job here.

Quote from: Anubis on November 06, 2016, 03:19 PM
Actually, if you don't respect MI he will ban you. ropa doesn't respect MI at all and he was banned multiple times and for months. :x It's a little bit different to not respect someone that has total control over you when you want to be competitive. Quickly respect turns into fear that way. ;)

If you had a visitor in your house and he throws shit on the floor, would you not throw him out?
If you visit someone, is fear the reason you don't throw shit on the floor?

ropa has a bad habit of throwing shit on the floor. It's easy to pick out flaws and call people names, and that's exactly what he did. Especially the name calling bit. Never any room for discussion, never any solutions.
When Asbest did that, people screamed for a ban, when ropa did it, it's about freedom of speech. Funny how things change when it involves friends, isn't it?

Quote from: DarkOne on November 04, 2016, 11:48 PM
So pretty much, the current community doesn't like being dismissed like that, so they dismiss the oldschoolers. And then the oldschoolers don't like being dismissed like that etcetera...

This is why this thread derailed.
If you feel people should listen to your opinion, it's only polite to return the favour.

If you like the endless shitstorm, then just go ahead and ignore everything I just said and you'll get your way.

Quote from: DarkOne on November 06, 2016, 05:27 PM
If you had a visitor in your house and he throws shit on the floor, would you not throw him out?
If you visit someone, is fear the reason you don't throw shit on the floor?

ropa has a bad habit of throwing shit on the floor. It's easy to pick out flaws and call people names, and that's exactly what he did. Especially the name calling bit. Never any room for discussion, never any solutions.
When Asbest did that, people screamed for a ban, when ropa did it, it's about freedom of speech. Funny how things change when it involves friends, isn't it?

D1 for president! I salute you!

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i got a girlfriend  :o

Quote from: Y2JID on November 06, 2016, 07:57 PM
i got a girlfriend  :o

u too?

and yea, I totally sign under D1's words.

Well the question was about why peoples stoped playing worms, now we are talking about another thing but ok xD

Respect is something you conquer, on WA this may come from ur skill, from the way you talk on forums from the person u r ( and over the years peoples know it).

Ill talk about me again, the respect i got from the WA players was not cos of my skills, i guess it is cos the person iam, so you got the respect, some new corners just dont get it and some even start to troll/moan on me cos of my way to joke and stuff but thats it, we are all bunch of old and new putos who are here as a family and of course there will be a pig to shit at floor huahaua so thats it, lets try to still be here debating for more 30 years aeeeeeeee porra!

There's a lot of reasons as to why I barely play W:A anymore:

1. The vast majority of my favorite players do not play anymore. W:A is a blast when you have loads of people who you really enjoy talking to who are active. This is why you have so many people talking about the "good ol' days," because they WERE good. W:A has been incredibly dull for a while now because of so many missing figures.

2. I usually want to play Worms very late at night when I am smoked out and just wanting to tickle my brain a bit. There are very few North/South Americans on when I typically play, most of Europe is in bed, and that leaves me with a bunch of Russians and their language that looks like trying to read English while on psychedelics. There's a few Russian players who I am cool with and who I respect, but the majority of them aren't worth my time in that not only are they noobs, but I also can't even talk to them. Heck, half of the fun of Worms (for me) is chatting in game.

3. There's always fun new games coming out of all sorts. (Including other Worms titles!)

4. Depression. When my depression gets really bad, I can't even bring myself to play video games - the ultimate slacker hobby. Lately it's been really bad.

5. Newer Worms games. As much as WMD annoys me on multiple levels, I have been playing it a bit. I still play Clan Wars too - a super underrated game IMHO.

6. Work. I work as much as I can because I make shit money per hour, and when I'm off work I have loads of stuff to do usually... so when I do get home I don't even feel like playing a game. I'd rather just light up a joint and watch a movie.

7. I have really bad carpal tunnel syndrome in my left hand. I am left-handed, but I am certain that years of roping has led to this condition. This is why I don't mind waiting for several players to finish turns in a Big RR, for instance. If my condition is really inflamed, my whole arm up to my elbow can ache and burn for a minute or two, so I like being able to cool down between turns. I hope it doesn't get worse.



8. The main reason by far why I don't play much anymore is because it kinda makes me sad, to be honest. When I think of the countless hours I've spent playing W:A, I feel like such a loser who has wasted so much time, even though I know that I shouldn't feel that way and if I really do see my life flash before my eyes when I die, I'd be totally cool with getting to re-live all of that again. It also makes me sad when I think of all of the cool players who are long gone, when I've spent hundreds of hours talking to them and laughing my ass off. I hate getting older because everyone is 'growing up' and getting married, having kids and whatnot, but not me. lol.

Quote from: skunk3 on November 07, 2016, 07:07 AM
There's a lot of reasons as to why I barely play W:A anymore:

1. The vast majority of my favorite players do not play anymore. W:A is a blast when you have loads of people who you really enjoy talking to who are active. This is why you have so many people talking about the "good ol' days," because they WERE good. W:A has been incredibly dull for a while now because of so many missing figures.

I feel like I can relate to that. Most of my dudes are occupied with work or relationship, and the only guyz left here are just dull ones, who kill the whole fun. You can't talk with them about life, you can't joke with them because all they care about is reporting games. They just have zero personality.

EDIT: No one cares if somebody was a great player. People just care who was a great player to play with.

This is the thing that some people just doesn't understand.

ur mom has zero personality

Another post proving that this community is just being a cancer. I feel like I visited this website for one of my last times.

it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

If You read this topic, that means u propably still play worms, so fak off

Skunk3, honest post there, hats off. Tho, I remember your personality from games is not quite on the level you think it is. If I'm not wrong you were also the one of that ppl that demanded some respect from the community, and you requested it directly. It was like, few months ago, right here, on tus forums.

Nevertheless, this is all just a game.. hope your condition gets better man, cheers.

This thread is f@#!ed, one of the worst ive seen on TUS since the refugee thread, its completely derailed, should be closed.  It was about why you stopped playing WA for the first 5 posts, and since then its been everyone attacking one another.

We all have introduced some relevant facts as to why some of us don't play this game anymore.

But what if the issue lies within us? We fail to acknowledge each other as equals, ergo the superiority complex comes to play. If one truly wishes to be unique, then he/she shouldn't highlight his career and all of the accolades that comes with it.  Instead, use your past abilities and incorporate it with the present. I am sure a lot of people would appreciate a skilled player.  That is humble, able to reflect and use his knowledge to help others.
If more old school people could be more accepting, it would be good.

Mr Abe and Mr Zalo have demonstrated vanity to one another., something we shouldn't encourage. We can surely do better, if we all look past our mistakes and indifference. The truth is, we love this game, we don't need to rely on drama to sustain us. We're a small community and we do not need to be more divided!  That's how WA is dying, because of us.

Let's start make this place better. LET'S HOLD HANDS AND SING I FEEL PRETTY!
https://youtu.be/L7BQRGXFLJs?t=58

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Quote from: TheWalrus on November 07, 2016, 02:41 PM
This thread is f@#!ed, one of the worst ive seen on TUS since the refugee thread, its completely derailed, should be closed.  It was about why you stopped playing WA for the first 5 posts, and since then its been everyone attacking one another.

Lol Ye  :D :D :D

The putoest community

Quote from: Dr Abegod on November 07, 2016, 12:10 PM
it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

I don't care about your sh*t talk. You are nobody to me.

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Dr Abegod on November 07, 2016, 12:10 PM
it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

I don't care about your sh*t talk. You are nobody to me.

You can do better Zalo!

Quote from: Kradie on November 07, 2016, 03:57 PM

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Dr Abegod on November 07, 2016, 12:10 PM
it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

I don't care about your sh*t talk. You are nobody to me.

You can do better Zalo!

I play for 5 years and I have never met this guy. I have never even heard about him. It just amuses me that he knows anything about me.

I shouldn't even matter here, but just my post about WA generations :/

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 04:42 PM

Quote from: Kradie on November 07, 2016, 03:57 PM

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Dr Abegod on November 07, 2016, 12:10 PM
it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

I don't care about your sh*t talk. You are nobody to me.

You can do better Zalo!

I play for 5 years and I have never met this guy. I have never even heard about him. It just amuses me that he knows anything about me.

I shouldn't even matter here, but just my post about WA generations :/

It was very unnecessary of Mr Abe to engage in an immature provocation. Although, you could choose to Ignore his irrelevance, you can be above him if you choose.

Lol. Kradie giving life advices. This thread is going places.

Quote from: 'GUESS WHO'1. The vast majority of my favorite players do not play anymore. W:A is a blast when you have loads of people who you really enjoy talking to who are active. This is why you have so many people talking about the "good ol' days," because they WERE good. W:A has been incredibly dull for a while now because of so many missing figures."

Everything you said is pretty cool but one thing ticks me, in your sentence it should read like this:

W:A has been incredibly dull TO ME for a while now because of so many missing figures.

The game isn't dull, everything you have ever been able to do with WA, you can still do, it's just like young person who grows old and calls young generation music crap just they didn't grow with it and understand or appreciate it.

This game always has been and always will be awesome.

Yes, there are not as many English speaking players who you consider friends but to all the people playing they still have fun you could learn to co-exist with them.

@Anubis.

You are a cool guy to talk to and I still like you for the old time but yeah we grew apart into different things that's no problem.

But imo back then you were fun guy to chill with and I have many great memories I won't forget, thanks again for those, but you were a cheating aliasing clan hopping nutter :/ that isn't/wasn't  good for the community lol.

As i got banned on shoutbox for expressing my anger towards dt after i got avoided for the hundredth time (the irony is strong here), i feel allowed to post here (i previously posted a gif cat, wasn't a serious post tho) unlike all these bunch of useless noobs

If you're asking, yes, i'm leaving this game.

First of all, i don't think TUS Classic league has ever reached such a low peak of activity, this is so boring

Most league players are pussies, especially clans

dt turned into a pussy clan, always looked at it as a respectful clan, maybe the best one in the golden era of tus, now just look at it...

TUS rules f@#!ing sucks, people had some f@#!ing common sense years ago, now it's just a nuthouse of c@#!s, therefore everyone do whatever the f@#! they want because rules allow it

MI is getting totally crazy, i've seen so many things in this site these years, but lately it's getting awful

Finding a tus/clanner takes hours but when you finally find it you must argue through thousands of agreements (because 1 rule to avoid these kind of bullshits is too hard to do, f@#! logic)

The deadlines (league, cup, tournaments etc).... i've never seen anyone respecting them

80% of this community is made of hypocrit pussies seeking for attention because they ain't got a social life or better shit to do, you could be using that time to play some league games or even learn to play a scheme you suck at it, did you know that?

Topics getting easily OT because you want to show your superiority, just like in this topic, you're just a bunch of useless retards, if there's something worse than wasting your time on a 1998 game, it's posting on this stupid motherf@#!ing site forgotten even by that f@#!ing dog of god (whatever god you have, i don't give a f@#!)

I've been behaving well this last year but now i've just got fed up, there's a limit on everything, this is it, keep your league as boring and shitty as it is if you don't want bother to improve it, this league had a potential but you just throw it.

I'll back only if:

-league will improve (rules, matchamking etc.)
-activity rise
-4.0 will be released

Until then, f@#! off, everyone

Quote[Today at 20:06:14] Aladdin: some people acting like children lol

What about those chimpanzees like you that avoid? Ooohhh wait it's allowed by the league, sorry, you're right.

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Quote from: Kradie on November 07, 2016, 04:55 PM

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 04:42 PM

Quote from: Kradie on November 07, 2016, 03:57 PM

Quote from: Zalo on November 07, 2016, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Dr Abegod on November 07, 2016, 12:10 PM
it's maybe because no one respects you for your great personality?

I don't care about your sh*t talk. You are nobody to me.

You can do better Zalo!

I play for 5 years and I have never met this guy. I have never even heard about him. It just amuses me that he knows anything about me.

I shouldn't even matter here, but just my post about WA generations :/

It was very unnecessary of Mr Abe to engage in an immature provocation. Although, you could choose to Ignore his irrelevance, you can be above him if you choose.

I think the provocation was quite mature, also be careful what you say guys cus Im just about to begin the smiting

You may smite me as much as you desire, as longest it gives you the justified gratification!

Btw, WA was released in 1999!

I'm locking this. Had a poor attempt to split it into 2 topics, but I gave up.