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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Crazy on March 01, 2013, 11:13 AM

Title: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Crazy on March 01, 2013, 11:13 AM
There's a lot of players from Chile, Brazil, Argentina and mainly South America. They're actually keeping this league alive I'd say. The other large group of players descend from eastern europe, especially Russia. Why is this? If we look to the States, you can really name all players in one hand, and they all started playing either in the late 90's or early 00's. USA is not contributing with any new faces to this game, atleast not anyone that sticks around. Same goes with the UK.

How come new players descend from certain parts of the world? Why is Worms particulary so popular in Chile?
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 11:24 AM
especially Russia.
in Russia, only Steam users would pay for W:A (not counting 0.0001% of "heroes" which would actually go for an overseas CD). there are lots of torrents, their quantity competes with Brazil (2nd most popular nation on WormNET), they're so many that you see the result.

but I'd tell you, most of Russians never played W:A before because a publisher, Russobit-M released both W:A and WWP at the same time in 2002! which is why they are all for WWP at start, and there are still lots of them. this is the impact of how international things came to us in the past: a perfect example is a NES console clone "Dendy", which was the only one and the most popular one available in the previous century here due to specific treatment to electronics, and 90% of people today still think Dendy was an actual console (without copying anything) and don't know about real NES at all

which is why having W:A on Steam is actually important

Current text statistic is here: http://stats.worms2d.info/countries.txt
Russia was around 40% before small percents of people from multiple different small countries started to come up. the stats are more "scattered" now
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: MonkeyIsland on March 01, 2013, 11:30 AM
As StepS mentioned, the piracy rate in Brazil or Russia is much higher. W:A being *free* in certain countries have kept the game more active.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: GreatProfe on March 01, 2013, 11:37 AM
Also, if You are (as example) from Norway, You wont find many norwegians players in #ag online, maybe only Masta and Crazy. If You are chilean or brazilian, all the time the wormnet has many wormers connected, so the fact about to find buddies online from the same country helps to increase the popularity in these nations.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: barman on March 01, 2013, 11:39 AM
Here's the number of users on TUS from a given country divided by a total population. Lower = more wormers per capita. Statistics made for countries with more than 20 users. Turns out the most wormy nations in the world are... Finland and Croatia :P
Interestingly, Russia and Brazil are trailing behind, with only one per 500-550 thousand citizens of these countries being registered on TUS.

Finland 124k
Croatia 126k
Chile 130k
Hungary 171k
Poland 175k
Costa Rica 178k
Norway 231k
Serbia 262k
Bulgaria 299k
Portugal 397k
UK 409k
Argentina 410k
Sweden 442k
Brazil 502k
Italy 513k
Netherlands 531k
Germany 543k
Russia 550k
Australia 614k
Ukraine 668k
Canada 770k
Romania 815k
France 841k
Spain 906k
US 1460k
Colombia 1540k
Turkey 2160k
Mexico 2450k
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 11:42 AM
Interestingly, Russia and Brazil are trailing behind, with only one per 500-550 thousand citizens of these countries being registered on TUS.
in fact it's pretty clear why so few are registered on TUS. TUS is not a prerequisite to enter WormNET, nor is it promoted on the official server, or sort of things. 90% of Russians are noobs from torrents with most of them either never learning, stagnating in the same skill level, or stopping to play quickly, but only those to stay long enough and with the desire to play competitively go for TUS.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Crazy on March 01, 2013, 11:42 AM
Okay, that explains a lot. But for example, a country like Italy has brought in a wave of new players to this league in Ano, Angus, Casso, sbaffo, borotalco, Orange, easy and so on. There must be a specific reason for why they've discovered this game and this league, in comparision with for example their neighbours from France?
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: van on March 01, 2013, 11:46 AM
http://stats.worms2d.info/countries.html (http://stats.worms2d.info/countries.html)

There has been a huge upsurge of polish players in the past few months, mainly due to the polish news aggregator, similar to Digg  - 'Wykop'.
A post titled (something along the lines) '3.7.0.0 for worms armageddon released,  team17 company proven to still care about older games' managed to hit frontpage, resulting in the sudden boom in polish community. I think that many people are just misinformed about how hugely improved this game has become over the years, and perhaps they don't think it would even run on newer systems.

(http://i3.minus.com/jouzaFLEQKxa5.png)

I think people in those specific countries don't even own a legitimate copy of worms, and since online play is accessible with pirated copies it made it so popular. And I guess they can really spread anything. ;)
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Crazy on March 01, 2013, 11:48 AM
Interesting numbers Barman.. Norway is not doing that bad after all :P Maybe TUS could be promoted on the official server? Would it hurt that much? :-[
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 11:50 AM
another impact of the torrents is the quality of the humans. I often see harsh and insults in Russian (and other languages of course) on the channels, this all comes from their education and explains why they torrented the game.
however when W:A released on Steam, a quick upsurge of polite players has begun. I noticed that most if not all of Steam users respect others, ask for help gently and other sort of things.
not too hard to conclude all this stuff
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: HHC on March 01, 2013, 11:55 AM
Would certainly help if T17 finally released WA on steam as a stand-alone game. Are they just lazy or well, ignorant?
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 11:57 AM
HHC i hope it will happen when 3.7.2.0 comes out (in a few weeks), because there are plans to do a synchronized release which would mean heavily prodding Team17 as well
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 11:59 AM
I doubt torrent usage is connected with education.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Hussar on March 01, 2013, 12:17 PM
when 3.7.2.0 comes out (in a few weeks)

uhm next update, coooool !!!!!



TOP20 countries in WN

19.02% [RU] Russian Federation
11.43%
 Brazil
10.69% [PL] Poland
 7.61% [US] United States
 5.43% [ES] Spain
 4.89% [AR] Argentina
 3.44% [GB] United Kingdom
 3.14% [FR] France
 3.03% [CL] Chile
 2.85% [DE] Germany
 2.75% [IT] Italy
 2.24% [HU] Hungary
 1.66% [MX] Mexico
 1.51% [CZ] Czech Republic
 1.48% [UA] Ukraine
 1.29%
Croatia
 1.28% [FI] Finland
 1.24% [CA] Canada
 1.04%
Turkey
 0.92% [CR] Costa Rica
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 12:42 PM
I doubt torrent usage is connected with education.
are you sure? what about 11 year old kids? well I of course didn't say that "all" of them are badly educated, yet you often get to see flaming on #AG.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 01:12 PM
I doubt torrent usage is connected with education.
are you sure? what about 11 year old kids? well I of course didn't say that "all" of them are badly educated, yet you often get to see flaming on #AG.

What exactly is the question about 11 years old kids? I think the two things are even less connected among children/teenagers since they (mostly) don't even have their own money to buy stuff. Now how does langauge come here? I only mentioned torrent usage.
Anyway, I didn't want to get into a flame war here, but yes, I'm quite sure about that. Maybe it's different in Russia.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Free on March 01, 2013, 01:19 PM
Go Finland!
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Casso on March 01, 2013, 04:07 PM
Okay, that explains a lot. But for example, a country like Italy has brought in a wave of new players to this league in Ano, Angus, Casso, sbaffo, borotalco, Orange, easy and so on. There must be a specific reason for why they've discovered this game and this league, in comparision with for example their neighbours from France?

I can answer this question. In my opinion Communities contributed a lot to the "circulation" of this game. Many players have continued to play this game because there was a community that supported them and helped them. WA would die in 2-3 years without TUS.

I can give an example: 2 years ago Italy was 5th Country here: http://stats.worms2d.info/countries.txt because in that period Community of Worms Mania (the most important Worms Community in Italy) was very active and many players met there and were helped. In the last 2 years Worms Mania's admins were busier, users online decreased from 15-20 to 4-5 about at the same time.

Now you can notice that Italy has dropped to 11th place. (from 6,3 % to 2,7 %).
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Sbaffo on March 01, 2013, 07:45 PM
Okay, that explains a lot. But for example, a country like Italy has brought in a wave of new players to this league in Ano, Angus, Casso, sbaffo, borotalco, Orange, easy and so on. There must be a specific reason for why they've discovered this game and this league, in comparision with for example their neighbours from France?

I can answer this question. In my opinion Communities contributed a lot to the "circulation" of this game. Many players have continued to play this game because there was a community that supported them and helped them. WA would die in 2-3 years without TUS.

I can give an example: 2 years ago Italy was 5th Country here: http://stats.worms2d.info/countries.txt because in that period Community of Worms Mania (the most important Worms Community in Italy) was very active and many players met there and were helped. In the last 2 years Worms Mania's admins were busier, users online decreased from 15-20 to 4-5 about at the same time.

Now you can notice that Italy has dropped to 11th place. (from 6,3 % to 2,7 %).

yes, if i still play this game is thanks to TUS and Wormsmania, where i've found so many helps ,FAqs, know many players and other things. I guess people leave this game cause get bored since the 1st day he play it cause thinks that its hard. I don't, when i start something, i must finish it, but for WA i haven't any reason why i don't stop it :P
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 09:42 PM
What exactly is the question about 11 years old kids? I think the two things are even less connected among children/teenagers since they (mostly) don't even have their own money to buy stuff. Now how does langauge come here? I only mentioned torrent usage.
Anyway, I didn't want to get into a flame war here, but yes, I'm quite sure about that. Maybe it's different in Russia.
lol man, its simple. only an educated person would buy the game, and an uneducated person would just download it, he would never buy something he can download, i don't see anything being complex in this sentence. yes, again, i didn't say that all of such users are like that (would be stupid if I did lol). but still there are, and the main point is that if you compare the percent of uneducated population from both legal and illegal spheres, it'll differ A LOT in the 2nd, to more than 95% compared to first. I doubt that, for example, taner and Godmax actually bought their games. if they did, they would most likely be educated then as they would have enough clue what buying a game is, what earning money is, what living a life is, what is good and bad, and this stuff. uneducated persons don't buy games. sorry but i cant explain it further, i thought it was pretty simple and obvious

ah well, if you still dont get it: by an uneducated person I mean someone often trolling/bullying/flaming in internet, or having intentions to do so, showing no respect, misbehaving and writing badly and other things, i hope you can describe all of this with one word. sorry for confusion
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Peja on March 01, 2013, 09:55 PM
for different reasons many educated people dont pay for games. a well educated person would know this  ;D
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 10:01 PM
for different reasons many educated people dont pay for games. a well educated person would know this  ;D
of course lol, and this is making the 2nd segment: illegal educated users which are quiet and don't shout on channels. they of course take the biggest portion but still a percent of uneducated people among torrenters is high, maybe moderate but not low at all.

i just can't understand what is wrong in the statement. i agree it's a bit exxagerated but think yourself, how many bad people are there from these illegal crap users? compare it with those who pay... you'll barely find a troll among those.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 10:07 PM
What exactly is the question about 11 years old kids? I think the two things are even less connected among children/teenagers since they (mostly) don't even have their own money to buy stuff. Now how does langauge come here? I only mentioned torrent usage.
Anyway, I didn't want to get into a flame war here, but yes, I'm quite sure about that. Maybe it's different in Russia.
lol man, its simple. only an educated person would buy the game, and an uneducated person would just download it, he would never buy something he can download, i don't see anything being complex in this sentence. yes, again, i didn't say that all of such users are like that (would be stupid if I did lol). but still there are, and the main point is that if you compare the percent of uneducated population from both legal and illegal spheres, it'll differ A LOT in the 2nd, to more than 95%. I doubt that, for example, taner and Godmax actually bought their games. if they did, they would most likely be educated then as they would have enough clue what buying a game is, what earning money is, what living a life is, what is good and bad, and this stuff. uneducated persons don't buy games. sorry but i cant explain it further, i thought it was pretty simple

As I said, it can be different in Russia, but in Hungary, education isn't connected with morals/ethics, nay, it's often the other way around. From learning test cheating methods in elementary school to the corrupt Student Union on universities, you may be taught morals in lessons, but in practice it's different.
So no, it's not simple at all from my point of view. I think I'm a person with an exceptional high moral sense, but I myself pirated the game as well. Sense and practice can be different too, by the way... Oh, and I am educated, I went to a good highschool, got admitted to the best hungarian universities. I study psychology at the moment.
Moral has many levels and I don't think pirating a 5 euro game or not tells much about a person.
No offense, but the connections you state here (where did you get that 95% from?) are very much stereotypical and simplified.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 10:08 PM
Prankster you missed this, please read the message again
ah well, if you still dont get it: by an uneducated person I mean someone often trolling/bullying/flaming in internet, or having intentions to do so, showing no respect, misbehaving and writing badly and other things, i hope you can describe all of this with one word. sorry for confusion

those only come from torrent downloads, they would almost never come from a legal purchase. this is the point, nothing else.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 10:11 PM
Prankster you missed this, please read the message again
ah well, if you still dont get it: by an uneducated person I mean someone often trolling/bullying/flaming in internet, or having intentions to do so, showing no respect, misbehaving and writing badly and other things, i hope you can describe all of this with one word. sorry for confusion

Sooo, you're technically saying people with low moral have low moral? I can't argue with that, lol.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 10:12 PM
have to split my edits for you...
those only come from torrent downloads, they would almost never come from a legal purchase. this is the point, nothing else.
i just wish i said this properly before and sorry for all this confusion
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 10:21 PM
have to split my edits for you...
those only come from torrent downloads, they would almost never come from a legal purchase.

Just like most of everyone else. It's statistics, I don't think you'd get any significant result if you'd try to compare the people who have original copies to those who pirated the game, as the two groups are not even remotely the same size.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 01, 2013, 10:24 PM
ye ye, this is just my opinion and im glad i explained it properly now. in particular, in a game such as WA when the only legal option is an overseas CD this makes even more trouble.

now let's close this discussion
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Prankster on March 01, 2013, 10:25 PM
Cheers. :)
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: TheWalrus on March 01, 2013, 11:24 PM
When this game launched it seemed like 80-90% of the users were from either the UK or USA/Canada, the remaining 10-20% being brazil, spain, france, and germany.  I still can remember the first time I saw a russian flag on wormnet 3 years ago and wondering what the hell flag it was.  Russians just didn't exist on the servers.  USA absolutely dominated total activity, I think here though, people have a good amount of money as a whole and there is a focus on upgrading to the newest and best, so WA was abandoned long ago by our USA community. 
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Statik on March 02, 2013, 12:36 AM
The community is very little to make any conclusions. There can be 100 russians vs 5 norwegians, but I guess the % will be the same for many other games. Also in different countires people prefer different games. Koreans don't play NFS in WCG tourneys, they love StarCraft. Same with Brazil, they choose racing games, football, etc. I guess USA people prefer to play modern games if we talk about serious competitions. Many people just play old games for fun with friends. I remember I brought WA in uni and every1 said "wow, worms, I wanna play!!!", but I doubt they would like to spend ages learning tactics and notching :D TaG clan looks like a group of friends, they have fun together. If a little percent will stop playing WA, there can be a chain reaction... Maybe it's WA destiny to stay out of professional gaming and always be a funny old game :)
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Kaleu on March 02, 2013, 12:45 AM
We are Pirates!
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Husk on March 02, 2013, 11:36 AM
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 02, 2013, 12:39 PM
Russians just didn't exist on the servers.

hey man, indeed, and there's an easy explanation:

most of Russians never played W:A before because a publisher, Russobit-M released both W:A and WWP at the same time in 2002! which is why they are all for WWP at start

some publishers didn't really care about bringing such games to us :(
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Sbaffo on March 02, 2013, 01:23 PM


HAUEHUAEHUHAEUHUAE
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Rogi on March 03, 2013, 07:14 AM
Interesting discussion here.

One russian site, vk.com have many browser games, and one of their is clone worms - "Wormix".
(http://wormiks.ru/oruzhie_wormix/electro_garpun2.jpg)
it's just f@#!ing clone, where physics sucks, graphics and special vidio effects for children etc... you can buy some weapons and customize for real $$$

But so interesting that this game have 13 000 000 russian players, and maybe 1/16 part playing it. I dont wanna compare tWA and this shit, but i know that many ppls play it coz they played WA before.  But i really dont f@#!ing understand why they cant just download WA xD



Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: StepS on March 03, 2013, 08:25 AM
they recently removed worms from it. but still the name, as well as the game, sucks and is becoming an illness (probably been years since it has already become, lol)
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Kangaroo on April 18, 2013, 02:27 PM
Ive always said I woul imagine russia and brazil to have Giant billboards on the side of road saying PLAY WA!!!!
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Hussar on April 18, 2013, 02:37 PM
dunno how it works then that many polish ppl still join WormNet   :o
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Triad on April 18, 2013, 04:17 PM
most of Turkish people has played a worms game in their life once and most of them played worms around 2004-2007 mostly. I remember i was playing wwp offline when i was 7 years old or something xD but unfortunately most of them wont play it now. I was playing wa in 2009, there was lots of good Turkish people like tenxone, cevval, steak, fume. But then i took a long break So after my long break from 2009, i returned in 2012. i saw that theres very few people in wormnet. So i decided to create a Turkish Worms site. And i created ultimateworms.tk

After creation of UC, i advertised this site to Turkish people in wormnet and some gaming sites. And i have 37 members on UC site now :) Most of people in UC started to play WA online seriously after they met me or registered UC site. I teached everything i know to them and also explained everything i know on UC site. And now they all are good wormers and i proud all of them :-* people of countries who has low number of players should do something like this if they want to increase that number. Its really works.

Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Hussar on April 18, 2013, 05:44 PM
thats rly cool, good work Triad.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: rU` on April 18, 2013, 06:07 PM
Spain dominated wormnet around 2004-2006, unfortunately they all moved on to other games, life stuff, etc. I still talk to some of them.
You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of Spanish wormers nowadays, and if you see a Spanish flag they're most likely south-americans that have it set by default.

dunno how it works then that many polish ppl still join WormNet   :o

WWP was full of Polish players, they were like the russians of todays. I heard you could get the game for free in Poland, not sure how tbh, through a magazine or something.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Dulek on April 18, 2013, 07:33 PM
I heard you could get the game for free in Poland, not sure how tbh, through a magazine or something.

I have WA through Polish game magazine called 'CD Action'. Not sure about WWP, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: TheWalrus on April 18, 2013, 08:11 PM
most of Turkish people has played a worms game in their life once and most of them played worms around 2004-2007 mostly. I remember i was playing wwp offline when i was 7 years old or something xD but unfortunately most of them wont play it now. I was playing wa in 2009, there was lots of good Turkish people like tenxone, cevval, steak, fume. But then i took a long break So after my long break from 2009, i returned in 2012. i saw that theres very few people in wormnet. So i decided to create a Turkish Worms site. And i created ultimateworms.tk

After creation of UC, i advertised this site to Turkish people in wormnet and some gaming sites. And i have 37 members on UC site now :) Most of people in UC started to play WA online seriously after they met me or registered UC site. I teached everything i know to them and also explained everything i know on UC site. And now they all are good wormers and i proud all of them :-* people of countries who has low number of players should do something like this if they want to increase that number. Its really works.

Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD
  Sounds like you have done more for promoting worms than our very own worms promotion project team.  Great story man, especially having so many turkish members from a country with traditionally less people on wormnet.  I'm not sure I could get 37 americans for a worms group, lol.   Congratulations on your success.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: SPW on April 19, 2013, 12:16 AM
Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD

Thats a good way. JohnMcClane was about the same. He and Medal were in the same class and they just ask some others to join, so Oley came. Circle goes bigger and whoops, you have a bunch of newcomers at one slap.

Keep that way! :)
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: philie on April 19, 2013, 01:34 AM
Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD

 :o
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Triad on April 19, 2013, 07:15 AM
thats rly cool, good work Triad.
most of Turkish people has played a worms game in their life once and most of them played worms around 2004-2007 mostly. I remember i was playing wwp offline when i was 7 years old or something xD but unfortunately most of them wont play it now. I was playing wa in 2009, there was lots of good Turkish people like tenxone, cevval, steak, fume. But then i took a long break So after my long break from 2009, i returned in 2012. i saw that theres very few people in wormnet. So i decided to create a Turkish Worms site. And i created ultimateworms.tk

After creation of UC, i advertised this site to Turkish people in wormnet and some gaming sites. And i have 37 members on UC site now :) Most of people in UC started to play WA online seriously after they met me or registered UC site. I teached everything i know to them and also explained everything i know on UC site. And now they all are good wormers and i proud all of them :-* people of countries who has low number of players should do something like this if they want to increase that number. Its really works.

Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD
  Sounds like you have done more for promoting worms than our very own worms promotion project team.  Great story man, especially having so many turkish members from a country with traditionally less people on wormnet.  I'm not sure I could get 37 americans for a worms group, lol.   Congratulations on your success.
thank you so much guys :-*

Instead of this, sometimes in school i offer "if you beat me once in 4 schemes i selected at WA, i ll give you 25 Lira (~14$ , ~10 €)" or something like this to my friends xDD actually this one works too ;D one of my friend thinking to start playing WA now xD

Thats a good way. JohnMcClane was about the same. He and Medal were in the same class and they just ask some others to join, so Oley came. Circle goes bigger and whoops, you have a bunch of newcomers at one slap.

Keep that way! :)
thanks :-* yeah its a good way. For example i met gh0st in 2012 summer. He even dont know how to play shoppa. Now he's a FAW member. His younger brother Killer just 10 year old but he's very good at rope. AsiLL is classmate of gh0st and started WA in 2013, but he improved himself very fast and we beat che in wxw once with asill :D
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: SpideR on April 19, 2013, 01:39 PM
The piracy statement explaining W:A's popularity in Brazil is wrong, that's just north-south prejudice.

Back in the 90's I remember buying Worms2 in a game magazine for like 10 reais (like US$5)
I also remember talking about worms with many friends at school, playing it online with them, and even today, many people remember "worms" with a monalisa smile :)

An idea... what took many brazillians players into this game was the "WOW, lemme copy your W:A disk?"

Nowadays it's just easy to download a torrent and try the game.
It wasn't like that in past.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: rU` on April 19, 2013, 02:51 PM
Nowadays it's just easy to download a torrent and try the game.
It wasn't like that in past.

tru dat, though I'm quite surprised by the amount of newcomers that have purchased the game through steam, or at least that's what they all told me.  ::) It seems there are still legit people out there.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Pixy on April 29, 2013, 12:38 AM
South Americans and slavs tend to cling to older games.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Fcrate on April 29, 2013, 11:51 AM
Any old game doesn't have much Americans left, in the beginning you always see Americans, at the end, its Europe, and Eastern Europe to be more specific, Africa and South America, communities are what keep the old games rolling, I play MoH:AA/MoH:SH for 11 years straight, I've seen ppl come and go, but those who stayed are always in a community/clan, where friendship holds the ppl together, if it wasn't for my clan, I wouldn't be playing MoH still.
Piracy also helps, +1 to that, Most of the third world countries don't buy the games, they torrent it, and you get a strange mix, some nice people who can't pay for the games, and they usually pirate old games where no one is looking to update anymore, and they can play online as well, and some **** as well, I totally agree with StepS here, his point is exactly mine, the "Educated" ones buy the games, but I have to add this: IF they can, the price of the game might not be an object, but to set aside some money to pay for an internet Visa or something could prove an obstacle,  and they don't see the point anyway, why buy what you can get for free? I pirated the game myself ( as I didn't intend to play it for long, was just to play with a couple of friends for old times sake @ wwp ) but now I got hooked, and I want to buy it legally, however, on steam its for $15, which is way more of what I would pay on a game like this, I'd pay $5 more and get Company of heroes.
$15 might not be much for an European or an American, but its quite a sum here in Egypt, and in most third world countries, it represents 7% of the average monthly salary here, would you pay 7% of what you get on an old game?
Generally, companies tend to forget about the purchasing power difference between countries, and there isn't any legal way to buy games here in Egypt except online.
Egyptians are currently dominating the MoH:SH/MoH:AA communities, and I dare say that 99% of them didn't buy the game ( only me, and two others ), if it weren't for piracy, these two great games would be long dead by now.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: avirex on April 29, 2013, 02:07 PM
im sure there is alot of game nerds here... ropa comes to mind.


but for some of us who dont know every title by its abbreviation, what is MoH? any game you played for 11 years makes me wonder if its any good... i like old catchy games, rather then all this new shoot em' up shit
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: TheWalrus on April 29, 2013, 03:37 PM
im sure there is alot of game nerds here... ropa comes to mind.


but for some of us who dont know every title by its abbreviation, what is MoH? any game you played for 11 years makes me wonder if its any good... i like old catchy games, rather then all this new shoot em' up shit
MoH = Medal of Honor.  Get a ps3 or xbox and join the rest of america, avi.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Fcrate on April 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
I'm not talking about the new Medal of Honor, I mean Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, and its greater sequel: Medal of Honor:Spearhead. its a FPS game, and there are quite a few American servers that are still populated, so your ping should be OK.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: avirex on April 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
ahhh.... just another shoot em up game :X



ps3? whats that?? lol jk..


im not into video games much.. dunno why i even play w:a still, i guess just because of the friends i have made... dont get me wrong, i still have fun and enjoy it, but its mainly the community thats keeps me here.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: WookA on May 08, 2013, 12:28 PM
awww avi loves us.... so when u gonna come to ny and get drunk and pick up slutty ghetto trash
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: avirex on May 09, 2013, 11:26 AM
hahah slutty ghetto trashhh sounds just my style, for real :DD


btw: i need to PM you!!! been meaning to do this for days.. check ur pink box babygirl
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: taner on June 18, 2013, 06:44 PM
What exactly is the question about 11 years old kids? I think the two things are even less connected among children/teenagers since they (mostly) don't even have their own money to buy stuff. Now how does langauge come here? I only mentioned torrent usage.
Anyway, I didn't want to get into a flame war here, but yes, I'm quite sure about that. Maybe it's different in Russia.
lol man, its simple. only an educated person would buy the game, and an uneducated person would just download it, he would never buy something he can download, i don't see anything being complex in this sentence. yes, again, i didn't say that all of such users are like that (would be stupid if I did lol). but still there are, and the main point is that if you compare the percent of uneducated population from both legal and illegal spheres, it'll differ A LOT in the 2nd, to more than 95% compared to first. I doubt that, for example, taner and Godmax actually bought their games. if they did, they would most likely be educated then as they would have enough clue what buying a game is, what earning money is, what living a life is, what is good and bad, and this stuff. uneducated persons don't buy games. sorry but i cant explain it further, i thought it was pretty simple and obvious

ah well, if you still dont get it: by an uneducated person I mean someone often trolling/bullying/flaming in internet, or having intentions to do so, showing no respect, misbehaving and writing badly and other things, i hope you can describe all of this with one word. sorry for confusion

Education,trolling and buying a game are 3 different things.One cant be the reason of the other two.What they teach u in mother Russia is "whats good and bad" but not "why is it good and bad".What they just teach you is that certain things are the way they are(thats just a simple example) but not why.This simple way of thinking gets passed from a generation to a generation and thats what makes u russians ,below average human being which is the reason why most of you guys are degraded.I see that you're trying to look smart with that post,in front of the worms community,but anyone with an average IQ would realize that you are just an idiot.
Buying a game or not is just a free will and education has nothing to do with it.Another thing that makes you russians simple minded is that you don't understand the difference between being smart and educated.
Education doesnt make you good,bad or smart.It just makes you educated.


PS.Im not trying to offend you.I'm just pointing out the facts.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Fcrate on June 18, 2013, 07:08 PM
Buying a game or not is just a free will and education has nothing to do with it.Another thing that makes you russians simple minded is that you don't understand the difference between being smart and educated.
Education doesnt make you good,bad or smart.It just makes you educated.
I agree Education has nothing to do with it, its "how much money you have in your pocket" and " are you willing to spend it on a game just to get it legit" Its mainly ethics, that doesn't come with education.
However, I disagree when you say that education doesn't make you smart, in fact it does, well, it makes you smartER, brain is just a muscle, if you work out 3 times a week you'll be physically fit, also if you read a few books a year, you'll be mentally fit.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: taner on June 18, 2013, 07:15 PM
even an idiot(nothing personal StepS) can learn something after reading it 50 times.that just makes him educated,but not smart.

PS.I really thing that books are boring and movies can give you much more .
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Twyrfher on June 18, 2013, 09:09 PM
Also, if You are (as example) from Norway, You wont find many norwegians players in #ag online, maybe only Masta and Crazy. If You are chilean or brazilian, all the time the wormnet has many wormers connected, so the fact about to find buddies online from the same country helps to increase the popularity in these nations.
That reminds me the game called Gunbound, remember it? it was FULL of peruvians, most than any other country.
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: Statik on June 19, 2013, 04:34 AM
damn Russia is so bad country! I'm gonna move to Bulgaria, the homeland of smart people xD
Title: Re: Why is WA so popular in certain continents/nations?
Post by: l7cx1Cl on August 03, 2013, 05:50 AM
Also, if You are (as example) from Norway, You wont find many norwegians players in #ag online, maybe only Masta and Crazy. If You are chilean or brazilian, all the time the wormnet has many wormers connected, so the fact about to find buddies online from the same country helps to increase the popularity in these nations.
That reminds me the game called Gunbound, remember it? it was FULL of peruvians, most than any other country.

rofl!! man me and ViolatoR and some other m8s used to play the f@#!ing crap out of that game..  good times.. man did we pwn with all of our wermy BnG skeelz  8)