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Title: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 05:49 PM
Hey guys, just finished my first game.

Noted so far:
1) landscape looks pretty darn flat. It's not at all as 3d-ish as expected, but more like 'paper worms'.
2) rope is indeed completely messed up, it's hard to bounce back from walls, which makes it darn hard to get enough power to swing your worm on top of objects
3) comedy value is still there.
4) lots of stuff on the terrain, with exploding crates, fires, barrels, magnets and sentries it's easy to get overwhelmed.
5) game lagged a lot for my brother. It skipped for me when I was trying to rope, but otherwise pretty ok.
6) menu looks good.

For WA players who want to rope like on WA: definitely don't buy.
For players who like worms for mad cartoony action, yeah, not bad!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Cueshark on August 25, 2010, 05:51 PM
How come it is available for you and not for me.

Steam says it will be 22 hours till it's unlocked?

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Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 25, 2010, 06:11 PM
Phew, seems we didn't lose HHC ;)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 06:17 PM
@Cue
Tomorrow is the official release. If you pre-ordered the game you can d/l it now. If you bought a 4-pack or are part there-of, you must wait for the official one as well  ???

@MI:
not quite, i'm gonna give it a try anyway.
But yeah, WA is a much better game than this. It's like playing Hedgewars or some other clone programmed by an amateur. It's hard to believe the people who made W2-WA-WWP made this game too, it's far less smooth.
And yeah roping sucks ass ;)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: nappy on August 25, 2010, 06:31 PM
My quick review:
W:R SUCKS BABOON'S ASS

That's exactly it, lol.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 06:43 PM
Close enough lol. Yeah, it's not really suited for the kind of professional play as WA. Indeed more for the console-market (beer, friends and weed required).

Pretty frustrating when you want to play well. Especially the rope.. indeed you can get around the map like T17 said, but don't ask me how  :D

Nevertheless, i'm still playing it, it's like playing worms on the first day, quite funny to do actually..
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: nappy on August 25, 2010, 06:52 PM
Well, I mean, come on, almost every little detail of the game is totally screwed. From worms animations to roping, all this is done really poorly, like if t17 were f@#!ing hurrying or something like that.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 25, 2010, 06:57 PM
Well what else is there to say.. I kind of like the new weapons, but at the same time it's frustrating how many and especially which weapons were left out. And the game overall sucks, indeed. :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Cueshark on August 25, 2010, 07:32 PM
What a big fail.

Why didn't they replicate the w:a roping physics?

Baffles me!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: franz on August 25, 2010, 07:36 PM
i'm unimpressed with the game so far, but we'll see
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: showtime on August 25, 2010, 08:13 PM
Ey you won't get as fast taps in WA as you get in WR lol. I'm testing it right now.
The menu is freaking me out! Seriously!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 25, 2010, 08:20 PM
As for tapping, it is possible to tap really fast, I'd imagine fingerrolling would also work, but there's no point in tapping fast if you can't pick up speed anyway. The rope is just a means of transport there, can't compare it to the WA one where it's become more of an art.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: showtime on August 25, 2010, 08:46 PM
I've gotta really say that this game is so f@#!ing cute! Optimal for kids so much. I bet you could play some kick ass team17 or elite with the new weapons and stuff. I also imagine that a shopper is possible. You can play them in cave maps. In the end I'd say that releasing it on steam is stupid. It seems to be more a game for kids which is done very lovely.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: xStratovariuSx on August 25, 2010, 08:52 PM
Really... EPIC T17 FAIL.

Will make ppl comeback to WA tho :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: SPW on August 25, 2010, 09:03 PM
when i saw the first movies from w:r in youtube i had my thoughts about that new worms version. And hhc underlined it.

w:a forever and ever and idc ppl who leave w:a for reloaded.   :)

thx for the short review, hhc.

Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 09:16 PM
Well, I'm actually having a lot of fun.

I mean, roping as a scheme is gg, it is indeed, like Dark said, only used for getting across a map half-decently. But as a default player I don't really mind that.

There's still some bugs in it, but well, it is Worms brought back to what it was when I first played it. Quite a laugh!

I mean, the physics are pretty weird, but it's pretty funny to see a mine drop down an explosion-hole, rolling over the bottom and shooting out the other end of the crater to hit a worm on the hill next to it. That was quite a good laugh. So is the rest of the game.

So yeah, for people who like roping and the chess-games of ESL, drop it. For those who like to be entertained by a stupid silly worms game, buy it! It's quite enjoyable when you've spend some time on it.  :D

Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: zippeurfou on August 25, 2010, 10:01 PM
Thank you hhc ! :)
On a scale from 1 to 10 where 10 is the best mark what would be your mark?
It is said that there is RR. How enjoyable is it ?
Is the ranking system cool ?
Is the online part cool ? Can you speak to people ?
Is it "pixel" accurate ? I mean do you have the same thing as when you use sg not in the middle of the worms you do not do 25...
Are the new weapons cool ?
You said roping is messed up. Do you think it is basically impossible to have a roping scheme or is it just it's totally different and with some effort you could learn how to rope well and do trick ?
Did you wear the TdC Tag ? :D
Do you plan to sleep tonight or will you play wr all the night ? :)
Do you advise me to buy it ?
I think that's all I posted my 1104949405959 questions ^^
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 10:16 PM
Thank you hhc ! :)
On a scale from 1 to 10 where 10 is the best mark what would be your mark?

For someone expecting an improved WA: 1/10
For someone who wants to go back to basic and loves fun games: 8/10 (or even 9/10).
I'm starting to really enjoy it now I've come past my initial disappointments.

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It is said that there is RR. How enjoyable is it ?
Haven't played it yet. I'm playing Crazy crates, which is like shopper, but on random maps and with healths and utilities, pretty chaotic, but fun. It has unlimited rope, so I know how the rope works... RR will be a challenge and prolly fairly frustrating as apart from swinging it's hard to do anything else.

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Is the ranking system cool ?
It's not like TUS at all. For crazy crates it's 1pt for a win (vs anyone, good or bad), 0 for loss. I think the other leagues are like that as well, player who wins most games will win the title.
They look pretty cool though in their cartoony design, but nothing really special ;)

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Is the online part cool ? Can you speak to people ?
Voice chat is automatically enabled. I use the chat box, which has one bad side: it uses ~ as shortkey, which is also the key ' ' ' is under, so when typing that's or it's it gets weird, I often end up the middle of letters and type stuf like lgl instead of gl.

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Is it "pixel" accurate ? I mean do you have the same thing as when you use sg not in the middle of the worms you do not do 25...
Yeah it is.

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Are the new weapons cool ?
I've only used poison strike and bunker buster so far. Nothing ridiculous I'd say. But the weapons are fairly well balanced I think. Dyna and Sheep are very strong, banana, bunker busters, buffalo, etc. have all been toned down. It's hard to kill a 100 with any weapon.

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You said roping is messed up. Do you think it is basically impossible to have a roping scheme or is it just it's totally different and with some effort you could learn how to rope well and do trick ?
Like I said, apart from swinging back and forth and extending the rope it's very hard to do. I find it very difficult to get on top of an object for example. Tricks is IMO pretty much out of the question. Sure a shadow is possible, but spike??

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Did you wear the TdC Tag ? :D
No xD. You play under your steam profile. Steam profile can be changed at will though, but I wanna see TdC go there first before I do. There's also not much point in wearing one now, it's all about the official leagues, clanners will be pretty hard to set up in the game itself (there's no chat lobby).

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Do you plan to sleep tonight or will you play wr all the night ? :)
Until 2am, then 1 hour of TV, then I go to bed ;)

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Do you advise me to buy it ?
I don't know what you like in a game. It can be a lot of fun, but for league-play WA is by far superior. As you see some people here don't like it AT ALL, while I myself really do right now.

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I think that's all I posted my 1104949405959 questions ^^
Always available for more ;)


Now back to the worms  :D

Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: franz on August 25, 2010, 10:21 PM
Thank you hhc ! :)
On a scale from 1 to 10 where 10 is the best mark what would be your mark?
It is said that there is RR. How enjoyable is it ?
Is the ranking system cool ?
Is the online part cool ? Can you speak to people ?
Is it "pixel" accurate ? I mean do you have the same thing as when you use sg not in the middle of the worms you do not do 25...
Are the new weapons cool ?
You said roping is messed up. Do you think it is basically impossible to have a roping scheme or is it just it's totally different and with some effort you could learn how to rope well and do trick ?
Did you wear the TdC Tag ? :D
Do you plan to sleep tonight or will you play wr all the night ? :)
Do you advise me to buy it ?
I think that's all I posted my 1104949405959 questions ^^

1 to 10, I'd give 5.  it's not polished at the moment, many things to fix ;p
RR is actually a supported scheme.. tested it, but like HHC say, the rope physics are so awful, ropes shoot out at random angles, and there's no real momentum.  maybe it just requires a whole new set of roping rules in your brain.. who knows.
ranking system seems very basic.  nothing really amazing.. it only has leaderboards of certain schemes, and it's sorted by points where 1 points seems to be 1 win. (can't confirm the system)
pixel seems accurate.
;d
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: zippeurfou on August 25, 2010, 10:33 PM
Thank you very much both of you :).
I think i'll give it a try :).
If I buy it in USA I can still play it in french right ?
Also, it can be played offline right ?
I'm concidering to buy it and play offline on  my plane back to france, is that possible ?
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 25, 2010, 10:37 PM
wtf, no chat lobby? how do u get games then?
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 25, 2010, 10:43 PM
Thank you very much both of you :).
I think i'll give it a try :).
If I buy it in USA I can still play it in french right ?
Also, it can be played offline right ?
I'm concidering to buy it and play offline on  my plane back to france, is that possible ?


yes and yes and yes

@avirex. Auto match-making + a server list if you want to manually browse games. It works superb for rank games, I don't have to wait long for a game (unlike in the old wa days). But yeah, for custom leagues and clanners it's much harder, you need to use the steam chat or some other chatsite to arrange that stuff.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: zippeurfou on August 25, 2010, 10:51 PM
Thank you very much both of you :).
I think i'll give it a try :).
If I buy it in USA I can still play it in french right ?
Also, it can be played offline right ?
I'm concidering to buy it and play offline on  my plane back to france, is that possible ?


yes and yes and yes

@avirex. Auto match-making + a server list if you want to manually browse games. It works superb for rank games, I don't have to wait long for a game (unlike in the old wa days). But yeah, for custom leagues and clanners it's much harder, you need to use the steam chat or some other chatsite to arrange that stuff.

Ok then you better be prepared because I'm gonna come to WR :)



I've just read the steam forum. I think it is time for the worms community to go in this topic http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1413012 and say what is wrong with the rope / other things.
They really seems to want to do it for the people and intend to do a lot of change if needed !
Also, when you post tell for how many years you've been around.. I think it can give you legacy to your argument. Honestly on this forum, I'm sick of people claiming to know the game when they actually are not even registered here...
WA community is good to complain  and argue (I'm sure MI would agree :p). It's time we try to do something for this new game.
HHC told me that roping here sucks. They want to make it better let's help them ! :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: StaTich on August 25, 2010, 11:43 PM
This is exactly the worms 2armageddon for xbla if you know it. The same menu, schemes, and stuff. As HHC says it is really enjoyable on fun scale. It's back to worms before we even knew the rope exists in it, where friends get together and shoot silly weapons. The cartoonish style of the game makes it more appealing but less "proffesional"
So, if you like to play standard, t17, bng and stuff like that it's fun, you will enjoy it. If you wanna rope or go PRO, it won't be so good, maybe it will be a 2/10.

My STEAM ID is: StaTich
Add me and let's party :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: OrangE on August 26, 2010, 12:00 AM
I paste here what i wrote to a msn friend, after i tried the game:

xx: and how u like it?
orange:  it suuuuuux
orange: rope is f@#!ing bad
orange: no lg??
orange: no bunjee??
orange: bad bad bad baaaad
orange: all ropers will stay on WA
orange: and all others will go to wr
orange: community is splitted
orange: f@#!
xx:well surelly team17 will make some patches etc
xx: so maybe the game will be better
xx: anywayz, its still fun
orange: -.- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
orange: im mad about this bullshit, this is a f@#!ing bullshit, what a bad game i wont give 1 euro for this shit
xx: xDDD
xx: NA
xx: i like the whole view
xx: etc
xx: has some rrors
xx: and its simply different
xx: but i still like it
orange: W:A is good because is SMART, u can STUDY that game for years and you will still have something to learn...
orange: look at wr
orange: u cant drop
orange: u cant rope
xx: well, maybe
xx: time will show
orange: u cant select worm
orange: no strategy
orange: nothing
xx: true
xx: cant select worm :(
orange: only BOOM BOOOOM BOOOM!
orange: wtf!!!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Husk on August 26, 2010, 12:12 AM
should we tell them fada? they wont listen to some random guys on teh internets, so to speak (: they just like to believe what they have there MUST be better than a 10 years old game, of course, thats what everyone would think, i don't blame them lol, its their loss anyway :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 26, 2010, 12:28 AM
i blame the beta tested.. *cough* chakkman, beer, and... somone else.. hehe jk :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: ZiPpO on August 26, 2010, 02:37 AM
np wR cuz WA FOREVER!!! AND EVER!!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: nappy on August 26, 2010, 02:54 AM
np wR cuz WA FOREVER!!! AND EVER!!
-789 → -788 :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 26, 2010, 04:26 AM
Weren't you going to leave WA Zippo? :D
Anyway.. Anyone else expecting some new faces on WA in the next couple days?
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheReaper on August 26, 2010, 08:27 AM
I had a bit of a rag on it last night and if the interface was re-skinned for pc AND they fix the f@#!ing rope AND get a descent way of getting multiplayer games then it would be good.

The way worms grip on land is all messed up steep hills you are used to walking up and down you slide about on...  grenades stick to worms, literally.

The multiplayer is REALLY REALLY BAD not the gameplay but getting a game it's like it was made for people with an IQ of 6.

There is more im sure lol.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: skime on August 26, 2010, 09:34 AM
Roper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQcciF-dMD8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQcciF-dMD8)

Weee. :)

EDIT:

WXW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXkQUVTAXBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXkQUVTAXBY)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 26, 2010, 09:43 AM
uh roping looks just ugly, you can't get speed (through which you can recognize a good player) and you can not go up because of gravity!  :o or it looks like that at least

WELL, I HOPE WE WILL SEND THERE OUR PPL WITH MISSION, SHOW THOSE NOOBS THERE ON WR THIS FORUM AND OTHER STUFFS RELATED WITH WA, TAKE THEM INTO WA WORLD AND MAKE WA AS ACTIVE AS IT USED TO BE!! weee
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 26, 2010, 10:01 AM
I actually think the roping looks kind of cool, because it's different, whats the point in having a new game thats exactly the same? It makes it harder, which could be interesting :)

I'm eager to try it :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheReaper on August 26, 2010, 10:46 AM
I am having a laugh..just not sure how long it will be fun unless they improve some stuff drasticly.

The rope is just a pain, you can move about a map with it np, going up is a problem unless you have 2 walls(or something like that) to grab onto as you swing.  I'm not saying it should be exactly like w:a but have some momentum carried and a bit more weeee time :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 26, 2010, 10:48 AM
Maciej, going there and saying "hay guyz im pr0 r0perz in wa u all n00bz ololo" won't exactly help, they'll just think you're an idiot lol.

And Dave, I agree at first view the roping looks like it could become interesting, but if you've played the game and tried out the rope you'll very quickly notice that there's a speed limit, the rope angle for a "perfect shadow" is pretty much halved and it just feels awkward. There's no way that the rope in WR as it is can be used to rope much different from what you see in those videos which skime posted - it is impossible to pick up speed, to do a pump, or even a kick.. You can't spike also, the only roping trick which actually works is the shadow - more or less like it should.

I really don't mean to spoil the excitement, but that's my honest opinion after having tried it out.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 26, 2010, 10:58 AM
pfff another stupid guy, hater, who wants to show everyone that I'm idiot, while I'm not - darkz
wtf is your problem in reading??
I meant show them our community, our videos from league, some freestyle moves by nlf, just advertise WA, to make feeling they are gonna try it! ...
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 26, 2010, 11:04 AM
Slap me hard bitch.

I'm just saying, nothing wrong with the idea, but I think advertising in the wrong way could backfire.

I never said you were an idiot by the way, learn to read. :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 26, 2010, 11:14 AM
Maciej, going there and saying "hay guyz im pr0 r0perz in wa u all n00bz ololo" won't exactly help, they'll just think you're an idiot lol.

here it is, it's twist my words, trying to make me idiot! I have never written shit like that, have never meant smth like that!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 26, 2010, 11:19 AM
Okay smart boy, let me rephrase it for you then.

Maciej, going there and telling them how awesome WA and the roping and whatnot is would probably not help at this time, they'd just think you're one of the "WA Elitists" telling them they're doing it wrong.

That's basically the same as what you quoted.

Maybe you're just obsessed with thinking that everyone thinks you're an idiot because there's some truth in it, I don't know really.

Anyway this is going off topic.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 26, 2010, 11:23 AM
rofl, but I quoted your mind, not my  :o
we can give them some links to this site, some youtube video with nlf or WO for example, that's all

I'm sure some of them will like it, this big community, those possibilities, and will try it!
AND IF ANYBODY HAS EVER TRIED WA, HE WILL BE BACK SOONER OR LATER, YOU KNOW...
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 26, 2010, 11:27 AM
yeah, i agree... i think alot of people will come to w:a.... they will see the w:r roping and think how neat it is... then find out about w:a roping, see some youtube shits.. and run their lil newb ass's on over to wnet ;D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 26, 2010, 11:28 AM
Actually I think the word about WA will spread there eventually, it's been mentioned on the Steam forums a lot and will also be a topic in this very new WR community itself. There are already quite a bunch of our WA guys on Steam, quite possibly telling them about WA in a positive way.

Btw did your shift key get stuck Maciej? ::)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 26, 2010, 11:34 AM
Btw did your shift key get stuck Maciej? ::)

no, I pressed CapsLock  :o
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Statik on August 26, 2010, 12:29 PM
Omg I hate this roping ;D



Noob again!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Madden on August 26, 2010, 12:42 PM
Ditto everything HHC said imo. I'm having a laugh but I guess I'll be bored of it in a week or two as there is just no room for "proper" worming...

Have to say the funniest thing is listening to people who don't realise they have their microphones plugged in. Just played some Scottish guy, "ACH NAAAAAAAAAAY!". Hahahahaha xD
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 26, 2010, 12:58 PM
Just played some Scottish guy, "ACH NAAAAAAAAAAY!". Hahahahaha xD

LOL !!! Wait till I get on it then :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: skime on August 26, 2010, 02:30 PM
Haha, yea Madden I too think I'll play maybe month and forget about game.

Thats funny thing with this microphones that people don't realize they even have it !

Guys join this group so we can find eachother:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wormers (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wormers)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: anoamas321 on August 26, 2010, 07:54 PM
its ok, but lacks weapons, it only has like 45 when wa has like 75, but the biggest problem is the lack of customisation options, like on weapons you cant even set chance in crate, or the power of a weapon, so limited in what schemes can be made, i also dont like that you can only get 4 worms in a team. this could have being a good game had they not rushed it... but its barely ok
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: ZiPpO on August 27, 2010, 05:07 AM
T17 will wins alot of money when they launch WA Reloaded hehehe with 2D grafism but with better 2D grafism like Kof XII. but with the same gameplay*

cuz i never will leave WA cuz roper skillz...i'm playing alot of years and i dont want to lost this skillz for nothing...XD
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 06:24 AM
but with the same jogability

ROFLMAO BEST WORD EVER!! xD
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: NAiL on August 27, 2010, 06:48 AM
CALLING ALL WA PLAYERS!

Ive been looking on the T17 forums recently, its amazing how many people there are talking about worms who dont have a clue what they're talking about...

TUS get on T17 forums!

Heres one of many dumb threads on there
http://forum.team17.com/showthread.php?t=41918
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 07:22 AM
Replied to that thread.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: NAiL on August 27, 2010, 07:34 AM
gj dark, theres not enough real wormers on those forums -.-
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 07:40 AM
Actually I wonder if anyone of the T17 Staff even knows about this site. They should've asked a bunch of us to do the beta testing for W:R, then a lot of people wouldn't be as disappointed now, including me. :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheReaper on August 27, 2010, 07:54 AM
Hey guys my steam id is robciviccrx if anyone wants to add me...

I would go and post on the T17 forums but im having enough trouble with the tards on steams.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 27, 2010, 08:08 AM
I replied also, I like WR, I REALLY like it, I personally think there is nothing wrong with the rope and that everyone is just too used to WA/W2/WWP rope, trust me, if WR was the 1st Worms game ever, you wouldn't be bothered in the slightest bit.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 08:12 AM
Yeah true Dave, I really wouldn't be bothered.

But since W:R has such an awesome prequel it's kind of hard to understand why Team17 would want to have less and worse features etc in their new title..
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 27, 2010, 08:20 AM
It's not worse lol, it's just different to what you are used to...

Everyone's expectations were too high.

I personally think it is pretty damn cool, I think the graphics are better, I like how the fire actually has smoke to it and it looks real, I love the interactive backgrounds, nowadays newcomers to this francise don't want their 1st look at the game to be "I must become the best, everything must be so specific..."

For newcomers it's supposed to look modern and appealing, not the same old...

We have WA for all the roping, seeing as thats the one thing everyone hates the most about it, I really don't understand why people are complaining when they can just as easily play WA again lol, WR is totally different, it actually makes getting around on the rope more challenging, and I personally like that...
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 08:45 AM
It is fun playing around with that game, no doubt, but as I already told you I think it's lacking depth and will be boring in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Maciej on August 27, 2010, 10:02 AM
heh Komo, from -45 (or even more) you got 0! gratz!
have to get same! xd
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: HHC on August 27, 2010, 10:36 AM
It is fun playing around with that game, no doubt, but as I already told you I think it's lacking depth and will be boring in a couple of weeks.

Yeah, it needs a lot of support from the community to set up custom leagues, schemes and communities. The +1 or 0 leaderboards aren't particularly appealing.
But meh, I played 16.8 hours on wednesday evening and thursday combined, that has to be a new rec for me  :D



By the way, as for the review part, a few more hinters:
- Single player campaign is very tedious. The puzzles are cool (though simple), so are the races (I know, opinions vary), but most 'missions' are ordinary deathmatch on random levels with increasingly difficult opposition. It's pretty darn boring. I'm also disappointed by the fact that it's just the W2A missions copied to PC.. no new ones I think.
+ The hats, worm skin colour, custom team names and worms and most of all the steam-avatar that gets shown in game (as replacement of a flag) allows you to be creative and make pretty funny teams.
- The maps selected for ranked matches are random.. 60-70% of games played in BnG channel are played in a cave or worse, on a vertical map (worms stuck at the bottom can only shoot zooks up to 1/3 of the map  >:().
+ The AI is much better than in WA. More random too... enemy worms can do amazing shots (like shotgun you when you're piled with an other enemy worm) or blow themselves up for no reason. I've seen CPU worms use parachute, so yeah, they are much smarter than before. Simple darkside and piling strategies of WA deathmatch are hard to execute this time.
- As much as the voice chat sounds fun it's annoying most of the time cause of the excessive background noise or the echo of the game playing in the background. And yeah, the *coughing* too. There should be an option to put it off automatically, you can only shut it down by altering the options while playing the game.
+ The bananabomb kicks ass. There's about 7 nana's coming out, sometimes one of them lands half a map away from the initial blast! Very random, very explosive.
+ There aren't many noobs online. At least 75% knows how to use the rope fairly properly. Sure, some weapons are still unknown to people (Some dude tried to kill me with a lightning attack, not knowing it actually adds 30 health.. :)), but the game seems much more newbie-friendly.. you know, it's easy to pick up, while it's much harder for pro's to easily win a game. Most games are pretty darn close.

Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: skime on August 27, 2010, 11:35 AM
Quote from: HHC
- The maps selected for ranked matches are random.. 60-70% of games played in BnG channel are played in a cave or worse, on a vertical map (worms stuck at the bottom can only shoot zooks up to 1/3 of the map  ).

Yea I suggested T17 to include BnG scheme.. and they did it but i thought they know how BnG look like.. It's disaster to play it ranked. :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: StaTich on August 27, 2010, 11:54 AM
+1 to Komo

BUT... the rope is pretty much f@#!ed up, you can't pump, you can't shadow properly, you can't get speed from bouncing off walls, and more important, you can't go up properly, it takes me 20 seconds to extend in a normal standard game.

All the rest of the game is GREAT.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Cueshark on August 27, 2010, 07:27 PM
Can you make your own sound banks?

Can you make your own graves?

I'm 90% close to buying this....I guess I should just to play you guys?
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 27, 2010, 07:51 PM
Can you make your own sound banks?

Can you make your own graves?

No.

No.

: <

The customizability is really poor in W:R.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 27, 2010, 07:56 PM
like i have already said.. once these w:r new comers see w:r roping, they will be fasinated... but when they see w:a videos on youtube, they will be intregued ;) did i spell  that right? of course not :) haehhaeha


but im confident that in a short matter of time, w:a will be a playground for a bunch of little newbs... and i think it will be our job as oldschoolers to be nice to them, and take them under our wing... sometimes i can be an ass to them, but i honestly try to help them as much as possible, they are what will keep this game alive, and sometimes we forget that...


as most of you know, i dissapear for a year at a time randomly, and i always enjoy coming back and seeing the game still kicking...i would be thrilled if i could see this game going for another 10 years... and without newbs, its not possible.. so lets be nice :) and teach them...


hell, there will be so many newbs, we can even have a league for them... each oldschooler can be represented by a newb... its your job to teach the newb, and train him to compete league style, and all the newbs can go at it 1v1 league... hahahah thad be funny :p

anyway, i posted at t17 forum nail
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 27, 2010, 08:02 PM
oooo nooooo's i made  along post, but it must not have went through for whatever reason.. lol, dunno if i can be bothered to do it again :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 27, 2010, 08:47 PM
Rene, you are right, it will get boring, only because i've played WA for over 11 years and I am totally hooked on this though, and I think this is better so to me it's no competition, i'll still enjoy it now and again though :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Cueshark on August 27, 2010, 08:55 PM
hell, there will be so many newbs, we can even have a league for them... each oldschooler can be represented by a newb... its your job to teach the newb, and train him to compete league style, and all the newbs can go at it 1v1 league... hahahah thad be funny :p

Sounds like one of those adverts on tv.  Adopt your very own newb for £5 a month.

My first +1 for that post because I agree.

I was playing ssr with some arrogant twat yesterday who wanted me to kick a player because he wasn't pro.  I explained to him that with that attitude there would be only 5 ssr players in the world for a long time to come.

:<

Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 27, 2010, 09:00 PM
hell yah!! keep them +1's coming!! i need them!! im not in cfc :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Cueshark on August 27, 2010, 09:01 PM
hell yah!! keep them +1's coming!! i need them!! im not in cfc :D

-1 for begging.  Hahah.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: NAiL on August 27, 2010, 09:08 PM
avi, if you post in that T17 thread ill +1 you every 12 hours, no lie
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 27, 2010, 09:15 PM
hell yah!! keep them +1's coming!! i need them!! im not in cfc :D


Pfft, I don't even ask them to applaud me and there is only 2 in cfc that do this that i'm aware of, I don't know why but i've been getting about 5-9 +1 everyday, I must be doing something right, for that many people to applaud me...

Either way, i'll take it as a sign that people like my attitude recently, because I have calmed down a bit, and I will try to keep it this way :)
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Husk on August 28, 2010, 07:07 AM
i rly like the idea of better ai, using chute :P but there are few succesful trolls on t17 forums, gooooooodddd
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Random00 on August 28, 2010, 10:40 AM
I definetly need to register at t17 forums and mmake a post in this silly thread.
Just unbelievable what some people are posting there, wow  :(
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: nappy on August 28, 2010, 12:56 PM
Being intermediate player, I find funny how people are claiming that "W:R is perfect for normal gaming", "normallers have finally found home", "f@#! you ropers!", etc. How the hell is it good for that if:
- you have 4 worms only, bb complex tactics (yeah sorry, elite isn't as deep as intemediate :D it's more about using patterns, you know)
- you can hardly move worms with blasts
- you can't even knock them
- there are no worm selects
So you seem to be very limited in tactics as you have no real possibilities of rearranging worms' positions. Awkward physics only make the whole thing worse. Well yeah, kids appreciate that - you can't be too good now, the game is now much more about luck.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: darKz on August 28, 2010, 02:17 PM
Being intermediate player, I find funny how people are claiming that "W:R is perfect for normal gaming", "normallers have finally found home", "f@#! you ropers!", etc. How the hell is it good for that if:
- you have 4 worms only, bb complex tactics (yeah sorry, elite isn't as deep as intemediate :D it's more about using patterns, you know)
- you can hardly move worms with blasts
- you can't even knock them
- there are no worm selects
So you seem to be very limited in tactics as you have no real possibilities of rearranging worms' positions. Awkward physics only make the whole thing worse. Well yeah, kids appreciate that - you can't be too good now, the game is now much more about luck.

tl;dr - W:R is lacking depth. :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 28, 2010, 03:12 PM
Seriously, they just DO NOT understand... They just won't listen lol...

Look at especially page 4, of this thread:

http://forum.team17.com/showthread.php?t=41918&page=4
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Aerox on August 28, 2010, 03:59 PM
I hate people who can't rope as much as I hate people who refuse to have sex with me.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: NAiL on August 28, 2010, 08:05 PM
Being intermediate player, I find funny how people are claiming that "W:R is perfect for normal gaming", "normallers have finally found home", "f@#! you ropers!", etc. How the hell is it good for that if:
- you have 4 worms only, bb complex tactics (yeah sorry, elite isn't as deep as intemediate :D it's more about using patterns, you know)
- you can hardly move worms with blasts
- you can't even knock them
- there are no worm selects
So you seem to be very limited in tactics as you have no real possibilities of rearranging worms' positions. Awkward physics only make the whole thing worse. Well yeah, kids appreciate that - you can't be too good now, the game is now much more about luck.

Pls get over to this thread! http://forum.team17.com/showthread.php?t=41918&page=4

People there are complaining that the rope is overpowered even in default schemes... and so much other rubbish to!
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Crazy on August 29, 2010, 12:49 AM
I hate people who can't rope as much as I hate people who refuse to have sex with me.

Guess you hate alot of people Ropa :P
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 29, 2010, 12:55 AM
This Draconis guy there is really really thick lol...

He keeps proving himself wrong with his own words :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Aerox on August 29, 2010, 07:20 PM
I hate people who can't rope as much as I hate people who refuse to have sex with me.

Guess you hate alot of people Ropa :P

Not you though  :-*
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: skime on August 30, 2010, 08:53 AM
Btw. I played WR yesterday with 3 friends on "hotseat". And it's really fun in that way. One friend who didn't play worms before got what it is about in few seconds. :) Sad that it isn't so fun when you play alone. :p
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 30, 2010, 11:13 AM
i guess W:R is a good way to introduce ur friends to the game.. bring them to silly old "W:R"...

like ohhhh this neat game came out.. its a strategic based game.. buncha worms blasting eachother.. sounds crazy, but its pretty fun.. haha

then shortly after.... "oh btw, im the ownzer of w:a.. i rope like jesus, and elite like moses"
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: TheKomodo on August 30, 2010, 11:21 AM
and elite like moses"

How cool a weapon would that be? :D

At SD in an Elite, Open the water for a few turns or something lol...
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Aerox on August 30, 2010, 06:04 PM
i guess W:R is a good way to introduce ur friends to the game.. bring them to silly old "W:R"...

like ohhhh this neat game came out.. its a strategic based game.. buncha worms blasting eachother.. sounds crazy, but its pretty fun.. haha

then shortly after.... "oh btw, im the ownzer of w:a.. i rope like jesus, and elite like moses"

I used to do that with the W2 Demo, the one with the palm trees pirate map. Oh man, I have that map in my memory.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 30, 2010, 06:27 PM
w2demo map was 2 island snow terrain...  not sure i remember a palm trees one. cant remember for sure though.. im gonna try to google for pics, would be funny to see that again :D
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Aerox on August 30, 2010, 08:06 PM
w2demo map was 2 island snow terrain...  not sure i remember a palm trees one. cant remember for sure though.. im gonna try to google for pics, would be funny to see that again :D

there were many versions of the demo
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: avirex on August 30, 2010, 08:13 PM
oh, i dont know.. i just downloaded w2demo.. i figured serve would be empty.. was shocked to see some people there.... not many.. but some :)  maybe 5 people? lol was interesting tho.. i played some games.
Title: Re: Worms Reloaded ongoing Review
Post by: Dub-c on September 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
t17 just needs to re-release w:a with w2 rope physics and ranks call it w:a2 and they would have something.