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Mole Cup 2018

Cup #1064, Viewed 3887 Time(s)

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Name: Mole Cup 2018 - with Group Stage BO3
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Created: May 11, 2018, 03:08 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Myc-MOLE
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: May 18, 2018, 12:30 AM

Knockouts Started


Description:
Maps standard / custom (both players agreement).

Group Stage and Knockouts: BO3 (2 wins)
Final and Bronze Match: BO5 (3 wins)




INFO for all players using HB



1. !host "name" (for instance: !host "miu miu") or !host mole
2. !tusscheme 964 (loading cup scheme)
3. !tusmap [number] or !wmdb [number]

Map examples:
!tusmap 16188 - Beach
!tusmap 16206 - Hospital
!wmdb 26914 - Mole Craft
!wmdb 24670 - Bora Bora map
!wmdb 1078 - Thunder map
!wmdb 16183 - Milka map
!wmdb 16366 - Coca-Cola map
!wmdb 10064 - Redbrick map

4. !worms 4 (gives both players 4 worms)
5. !close (closing the host)
6. !kick [player nick] (kicking unwanted spectators)
7. !start




GOOD LUCK AND DEEP DIG.

Knockout

Deadline: April 11, 2021, 05:30 PM

Final

Bronze Match

Gold

Silver

Bronze


Groups

More activity please. 30 days to arrange and play your games. Good luck :)
Deadline: May 09, 2021, 01:30 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Spain TnL`MazingerZ 3 2/4 1
United Kingdom Run 2 2/4 0
Russian Federation demon2020 2 0 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan ae Pn ZaR 1 0/1 1
Games [4]Notes [12]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226952 Spain TnL`MazingerZ Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
2:1
Yesterday at 05:26 PM 0
226702 United Kingdom Run Russian Federation demon2020
2:0
March 28, 2021, 08:20 PM 0
226654 United Kingdom Run Spain TnL`MazingerZ
2:0
March 22, 2021, 06:44 PM 0
226646 Spain TnL`MazingerZ Russian Federation demon2020
2:0
March 17, 2021, 07:40 PM 0

[March 17, 2021, 07:41 PM] Spain TnL`MazingerZ: Hey Kinslayer and Run, i need play vs you
[March 18, 2021, 05:44 AM] Russian Federation demon2020: Guys, write to me here, we will agree on a day and time! rybak_2020@list.ru
[March 18, 2021, 11:41 AM] Russian Federation demon2020: или пишите сюда
[March 18, 2021, 02:17 PM] Spain TnL`MazingerZ: i can play Monday to Friday since 17:00-19:30 Spain time
[March 18, 2021, 02:39 PM] Spain TnL`MazingerZ: Please, if Run and KinslayeR using different nicknames in worms game, say me for search you
[March 20, 2021, 07:41 AM] Russian Federation demon2020: Guys, if you have already decided to participate in the cup, then you need to overcome fear, pull yourself together and fight with worthy rivals!wait battle!
[March 20, 2021, 02:49 PM] United Kingdom Run: Oh hey! I didn't notice this handy little message box. Yeah, I'm up for playing :) DM me on here to get my attention
[March 21, 2021, 07:21 PM] Spain TnL`MazingerZ: Run = DM?
[March 21, 2021, 08:49 PM] United Kingdom Run: Direct Message :D if you send one to my account on this site, I get an email. It's the best way to contact me
[April 11, 2021, 06:36 AM] Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan: Message me on discord: Mega`Preject#5501 to arrange games
[April 11, 2021, 06:38 AM] Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan: I'm usually active around 16 to 20 GMT everyday, otherwise we can manage
[April 15, 2021, 03:38 PM] Spain TnL`MazingerZ: Hey Adnan, whats about time zone? In Spain timezone is +1 ;)
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA 3 3/6 0
Nepal bitermer 2 1/2 1
Belarus #AnythingGoes 2 0 2
Russian Federation HP 1 0 1
Games [4]Notes [36]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226755 Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA Russian Federation HP
2:0
April 02, 2021, 06:23 PM 0
226739 Nepal bitermer Belarus #AnythingGoes
2:0
April 01, 2021, 01:28 PM 0
226675 Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA Nepal bitermer
2:0
March 26, 2021, 06:19 PM 0
226666 Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA Belarus #AnythingGoes
2:0
March 26, 2021, 11:37 AM 0

[March 14, 2021, 03:45 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Когда играть будем?
[March 15, 2021, 05:31 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: готов сыграть сегодня в 13 00 по Москве
[March 15, 2021, 01:01 PM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Бляха ни один из вас не захотел сегодня играть что ж жду завтра всё в тоже время 13.00 по Москве
[March 16, 2021, 05:29 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: готов сыграть сегодня в 13 00 по Москве
[March 16, 2021, 10:00 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: есть кто ??????
[March 17, 2021, 11:23 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Парни а нафига регистрировались если играть не собираетесь, третий день сюда пишу а ответа нет.
[March 17, 2021, 02:06 PM] Nepal bitermer: Hey guys, when do you want to play?
[March 17, 2021, 05:28 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Смогу сыграть сегодня вечером или на выходных
[March 18, 2021, 05:21 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: I can play right now
[March 18, 2021, 05:23 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: VITOS-SVOBODA можешь написать сегодня время когда сможем поиграть? Я точно смогу играть в 13.00 по москве.
[March 18, 2021, 05:37 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: I will be able to play at 13.00 Moscow time
[March 18, 2021, 12:18 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: #AnythingGoes pls use GMT time.
[March 18, 2021, 12:19 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: https://time.is/pl/GMT
[March 19, 2021, 10:42 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: VITOS-SVOBODA  хахол ёсть хахол напішы час гульні
[March 19, 2021, 01:33 PM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: VITOS-SVOBODA чакаю тябе у няделю (Воскресенье) у першай палове дня
[March 19, 2021, 04:40 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Могу сыграть сегодня
[March 19, 2021, 04:40 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Могу сыграть сегодня
[March 19, 2021, 04:40 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Бульба,жду игру с тобой
[March 21, 2021, 05:48 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Могу играть сегодня тебя пока что не вижу
[March 21, 2021, 07:00 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: хахол бляха муха чакаю сустрэчы ты дзе?
[March 21, 2021, 09:44 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: бля ждал пол дня хахол охуенный пацан
[March 21, 2021, 01:02 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: Давай вечером сыграем,я был занят
[March 22, 2021, 07:23 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Вечарам я са сваімі сябрамі піў гарэлку…
[March 24, 2021, 10:15 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: готов сыграть сегодня
[March 24, 2021, 11:40 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Блять парни что за группа дыбилов попалась все уже сыграли хоть по разу а у нас никто так трудно написать точную дату и время нахер регистрировались уроды места нормальных людей только позанимали.
[March 25, 2021, 05:12 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: сегодня есть кто ??????
[March 25, 2021, 09:47 PM] Nepal bitermer: tomorrow night and weekend i can play
[March 25, 2021, 11:38 PM] Nepal bitermer: Anytime after 12Pm GMT
[March 26, 2021, 05:24 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: I can play for 6 hours from the publication of this record. write me an email if you can play in this period of time
[March 26, 2021, 05:25 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: Hatsila@yandex.by
[March 26, 2021, 08:40 AM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: могу играть весь день,создавайте
[March 26, 2021, 04:04 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: bitermer go play
[March 29, 2021, 09:27 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: bitermer when are you going to play
[March 29, 2021, 05:17 PM] Ukraine VITOS-SVOBODA: НР - давай на выходных сыграем
[April 07, 2021, 02:13 PM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: HP когда готов сыграть
[April 13, 2021, 05:45 AM] Belarus #AnythingGoes: HP из-за таких как уродов как ты все проблемы в твоей стране
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation Mai 3 2/5 1
Turkey BlankASD 3 2/5 1
Israel liav 3 2/4 1
Brazil Homunculus 3 0/1 3
Games [6]Notes [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226792 Turkey BlankASD Israel liav
2:1
April 05, 2021, 05:45 PM 0
226780 Israel liav Brazil Homunculus
1:0
April 05, 2021, 12:31 AM 0
226756 Israel liav Russian Federation Mai
2:1
April 02, 2021, 07:52 PM 0
226653 Russian Federation Mai Brazil Homunculus
2:0
March 22, 2021, 05:57 PM 2
226652 Russian Federation Mai Turkey BlankASD
2:1
March 22, 2021, 08:15 AM 0
226638 Turkey BlankASD Brazil Homunculus
2:1
March 13, 2021, 06:48 AM 0

[March 19, 2021, 01:37 PM] Turkey BlankASD: liav let me know when you are available
[March 22, 2021, 05:58 PM] Brazil Homunculus: i quit this cup
[March 24, 2021, 12:43 AM] Poland MycyxPatroN: Don't make decision in a hurry. Give yourself a rest. Cup will take some time. Please reconsider :)
[April 05, 2021, 12:32 AM] Israel liav: Homunculus doesn't want to play the next match
[April 05, 2021, 12:38 AM] Brazil Homunculus: i concede my matches to liav
[April 05, 2021, 12:38 AM] Brazil Homunculus: i have no time for this game anymore, good luck
[April 05, 2021, 05:48 PM] Turkey BlankASD: Because of my advantage on 2 games from which liav disconnected, we agreed that it would be 1-0 for me.Including the last 2 games, it is 2-1.
[April 11, 2021, 05:41 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: Ok I got so confused. Blank and Mai please play additional game, BO1. The winner will advance. In this mess and confusing it is the only way.
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Mexico ZorroX 3 3/6 0
Mexico danie 3 2/4 1
United Kingdom JohnM 2 0/1 2
Brazil djongador Rain 2 0 2
Games [5]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226668 Mexico ZorroX Brazil djongador
2:0
March 26, 2021, 04:53 PM 0
226656 Mexico ZorroX United Kingdom JohnM
2:1
March 23, 2021, 10:12 PM 0
226641 Mexico danie United Kingdom JohnM
2:0
March 15, 2021, 12:48 AM 0
226640 Mexico danie Brazil djongador
2:0
March 13, 2021, 11:42 PM 0
226637 Mexico ZorroX Mexico danie
2:0
March 12, 2021, 11:13 PM 0
Group 5
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation Pisyavki 3 2/4 1
Singapore leftir 2 2/4 0
Brazil tlocoselli 3 1/3 2
Brazil diogofelt 2 0/1 2
Games [5]Notes [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226906 Russian Federation Pisyavki Brazil diogofelt
1:0
April 11, 2021, 09:27 PM 0
226773 Singapore leftir Brazil tlocoselli
2:1
April 04, 2021, 03:45 PM 0
226701 Singapore leftir Russian Federation Pisyavki
2:0
March 28, 2021, 07:43 PM 0
226650 Russian Federation Pisyavki Brazil tlocoselli
3:0
March 21, 2021, 06:02 PM 1
226648 Brazil tlocoselli Brazil diogofelt
2:1
March 20, 2021, 10:00 PM 0

[March 13, 2021, 06:44 AM] Russian Federation Pisyavki: hey! whatsapp me +79639111112
[March 17, 2021, 10:08 AM] Russian Federation Pisyavki: Hello there! I can play 6am - 7pm GMT (UTC)
[March 18, 2021, 09:13 PM] Brazil diogofelt: Pisyavki, we probably gonna have to play during weekends cause you can play while we are working here in Brazil.
[March 20, 2021, 05:08 PM] Russian Federation Pisyavki: Let's play!
[March 20, 2021, 05:50 PM] Brazil diogofelt: I might be able to play later but I'm not sure yet Pisyavki. I'll text here later if anything changes. But we can try tomorrow too. Same to Leftir.
[March 24, 2021, 03:26 AM] Brazil tlocoselli: Is Leftir alive?
[March 26, 2021, 05:45 PM] Russian Federation Pisyavki: Hi guys! Let's play today or tomorrow.
[April 02, 2021, 02:30 PM] Brazil diogofelt: Hi mates, just sent u a private message.
Group 6
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation SIBASA N11 3 2/4 1
Russian Federation Requin 2 1/2 1
Jamaica Ty3 2 1/2 1
Russian Federation Seenve N11 1 0/1 1
Games [4]Notes [11]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226738 Russian Federation SIBASA Russian Federation Seenve
2:1
April 01, 2021, 12:51 PM 0
4.5/5
226731 Russian Federation SIBASA Jamaica Ty3
2:0
March 31, 2021, 08:28 PM 0
226730 Jamaica Ty3 Russian Federation Requin
2:0
March 31, 2021, 07:16 PM 0
5/5
226651 Russian Federation Requin Russian Federation SIBASA
2:0
March 21, 2021, 08:56 PM 0
3/5

[March 16, 2021, 01:56 AM] Russian Federation SIBASA: I tried play cup to  Requin (in-game nickname - Shark) two times on different days, but every time it got disconnected. Then he would appear in the "#AnythingGoes" room and immediately play with other people, but he didn't want to play with me anymore. I do not see any other way out, so I announce my victory.
[March 16, 2021, 02:04 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: I know Shark and his behaviour and I don't rescpect him for that. But as a cup admin I must treat him neutral. So, Requin vel Shark will have one week to play again with Sibasa. If he won't play or disconnect like in theese 2 games earlier, I will approve reported by Sibasa games. One week.
[March 16, 2021, 02:10 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: Oh,and one more thing. You, Requin must arrange the game with Sibasa and play or at least arrange new term for a match. And remeber that too often "disconnecions" will be treated as cheating.
[March 22, 2021, 03:45 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE FINAL SCORE SIBASA VS REQUIN. WAS THAT 2:0 OR 2:1?
[March 22, 2021, 05:37 PM] Russian Federation Requin: 2 games disconekt (in the first game  leader Sibasa, in the second game I ) I do not know who awarded the victory . this question for you and sibassa
[March 22, 2021, 05:39 PM] Russian Federation Requin: and the last time they played 2:0 _ i win
[March 22, 2021, 06:03 PM] Russian Federation Requin: who next game with me?
[March 23, 2021, 12:31 PM] Russian Federation Requin: Туз готовь готовь свой туз для игры )))
[March 31, 2021, 10:07 PM] Russian Federation Requin: Ty3 cheated. I uploaded my edited scheme - they constantly got into the game cluster and a banana. Moreover, he stated that he had downloaded it from the site, but he is not in the list of players who downloaded this scheme (I downloaded the scheme and immediately appeared in the list) - this is all recorded in the game's chat.
[April 12, 2021, 01:50 PM] Russian Federation Requin: I replayed the game with Sibasa at his request, the result is the same 2-0
[April 12, 2021, 10:25 PM] Russian Federation SIBASA: Requin, why did you load the extra game again?
Group 7
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland pawelddz55 3 3/6 0
Turkey eataysir 2 1/2 1
Belarus Shibz 2 0/1 2
Uruguay Uruguayo 1 0 1
Games [4]Notes [10]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226688 Turkey eataysir Belarus Shibz
2:1
March 27, 2021, 03:13 PM 0
226647 Poland pawelddz55 Turkey eataysir
2:0
March 18, 2021, 09:01 PM 1
226645 Poland pawelddz55 Uruguay Uruguayo
2:0
March 17, 2021, 07:14 PM 0
5/5
226644 Poland pawelddz55 Belarus Shibz
2:0
March 17, 2021, 05:06 PM 0

[March 18, 2021, 11:15 PM] Poland pawelddz55: i am winner cup
[March 23, 2021, 06:31 PM] Turkey eataysir: Shibz and Uruguayo, please let me know when you want to play. I use same username in HB.
[March 24, 2021, 03:04 PM] Belarus Shibz: maby today ?
[March 24, 2021, 03:04 PM] Belarus Shibz: maby today ?
[March 25, 2021, 12:45 PM] Turkey eataysir: I am available everyday after 8pm (Istanbul time).
[March 25, 2021, 05:32 PM] Belarus Shibz: who online now?
[March 25, 2021, 05:34 PM] Belarus Shibz: who online now?
[March 27, 2021, 11:23 AM] Belarus Shibz: who ready today ? WhatsApp, Viber, Telegramm +375293155494
[March 27, 2021, 01:02 PM] Turkey eataysir: Hi Shibz, i can play now.
[March 27, 2021, 01:07 PM] Turkey eataysir: I sent u  a msg. via Whatsapp
Group 8
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland MycyxPatroN 3 2/4 1
Brazil Nous BoM 3 1/2 2
Belarus KartoFan_ 2 1/3 1
Argentina Seven 2 1/2 1
Games [5]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
226781 Argentina Seven Brazil Nous
2:0
April 05, 2021, 03:44 AM 0
226657 Poland MycyxPatroN Argentina Seven
2:0
March 24, 2021, 11:24 AM 0
226655 Belarus KartoFan_ Brazil Nous
2:0
March 22, 2021, 11:19 PM 2
226643 Poland MycyxPatroN Belarus KartoFan_
2:1
March 16, 2021, 04:02 PM 0
226639 Brazil Nous Poland MycyxPatroN
2:0
March 13, 2021, 11:05 PM 1
5/5

[March 12, 2021, 02:58 PM] Poland MycyxPatroN: I can be found on WormNet this week from about 19-23 GMT.

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Offline danie

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2021, 05:20 PM »
I'm struggling to get in touch with Kinslayer to play our games  :(

It seems that he is the only one of the 32 players who has not played a single game

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Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2021, 06:29 PM »
Kinslayer replaced, ko pairs fixed.

MAI and BLANK will play aditional match (B0 1). I should do this from the begging,when all 3 player have the same amount of points. But it is too late now. So at leats Blank and Mai will settle this between themselves.

Sorry again.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2021, 05:51 PM by MycyxPatroN »
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Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2021, 01:04 PM »
Kinslayer replaced, ko pairs fixed.

MAI and BLANK will play aditional match (B0 1). I should do this from the begging,when all 3 player have the same amount of points. But it is too late now. So at leats Blank and Mai will settle this between themselves.

Sorry again.

These 2 gentlemen have plenty of free time and they are almost in the same timezone. Maybe let them fight Bo7?

Offline Magnus

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2021, 05:57 PM »
Nobody knew if you would untie players with tie breaks and play-offs or only with play-offs, but considering you advanced group 3, I assumed you would include tie breaks. When players have the same number of matches won, they can untie by direct confrontation and rounds won. That group doesn’t need play-offs since they don’t actually have the same amount of points. Mai beat BlankASD 2-1, BlankASD beat Liav 2-1 and Liav beat Mai 2-0 (if you pay attention to the replays date, the round in which Mai supposedly beat Liav doesn’t count as he beat him only after Liav had already beat him 2-0), so because Mai have one round won less than the other two, he is in 3rd place. That leaves only BlankASD and Liav to untie in direct confrontation, where BlankASD has the advantage, thus granting him the 1st place and Liav being in 2nd.

If you were to consider only the matches won, the three should do play-offs, but since Liav was already advanced, doing play-offs only between the other two would be unfair for Liav as he had no equal chance as them of achieving 1st place in the play-offs. So considering you already advanced Liav in his appropriate position following the tie breaks, I’d say the best and fairest thing to do would be to simply follow the tie breaks for the other players too and advance BlankASD with no play-offs. And you’d apply the same tie breaks for the other groups so that all competitors play by the same rules.

Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2021, 10:15 PM »
Mycy, don't listen to him

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That leaves only BlankASD and Liav to untie in direct confrontation

I’d say the best and fairest thing to do would be to simply follow the tie breaks for the other players too and advance BlankASD with no play-offs

So you are basically allowing victories to be "weaker or stronger" among players who met only once. That is a total opposite of what group match should be. You will never see that in any football cup. How about we start counting how many worms Mai had left with his victories, how many Health Points by % he kept? How about we start counting losses, not just wins, and then it would turn out that Homunculus could give one extra loss to Liav, but he spared him of it by quitting, and then what? That is so so flawed bro. I wouldn't want to be in Mai's shoes, to see that Liav gets advanced instead of me, and he hasn't even earned a single clean 2:0. Cup is for people to explain things to each other via confrontation, often additional, not by avoidance and some micro statistics that would decide.

Mycy is 100% right that fundamentally they have 2/3 wins and all 3 should repeat. Since Liav is not exactly in the cup now, them 2 fighting for this one bracket with the gentleman Danie, seems to be the only sensible thing to do. I just suggest Bo3/Bo5 so that we have a strong confrontation. If Mycy decides to do so, I can even let all 3 repeat their group games and I will agree to have my bracket win removed.

btw. give Vitos and Pawel #1 positions. They cannot have any other one.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2021, 08:42 AM by ZorroX »

Offline Magnus

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2021, 11:07 PM »
First of all, the way the score is counted is done by TUS’s own system, but since it’s a machine, it can’t be used by itself; it needs a host behind it to manually advance the players since odd results like these might appear. TUS’s algorithms do include the tie breaks I mentioned and they must be there for a reason. Mycy just never stated in the cup description what his rules are for ties in the group stage.

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So you are basically allowing victories to be "weaker or stronger" that is a total opposite of what group match should be.
Being able to beat your opponent 1 round even in a lost match still means merit, therefore it CAN be used as extra points for tie breaks (as long as it’s not Bo1, but groups here are Bo3), because it means you were not as easily beaten. Losing 2-1 is better than losing 2-0.

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You will never see that in any football cup. How about we start counting how many worms Mai had left with his victories, how many Health Points by % he kept? How about we start counting losses, not just wins, and then it would turn out Diogofelt would could give one extra loss to Liav, that he spared him of, and then what? That is so so flawed bro.
You are saying a bunch of things I didn’t say there. Don’t mix things that happen inside the game with game results. And TUS’s tie breaks don’t count losses as you could see.

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How about we start counting losses, not just wins, and then it would turn out Diogofelt would could give one extra loss to Liav, that he spared him of, and then what?
That part’s a bit illegible. But they aren’t even in the same group anyway. You’re again mixing things here.

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I wouldn't want to be in Mai's shoes. Cup is for people to explain things to each other via confrontation, often additional, not by avoidance and some micro statistics that would decide.
Nothing wrong with different forms of justice, but I think they should be equal among all participants.

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Mycy is 100% right that fundamentally they have 2/3 wins and all 3 should repeat. Since liav is not exactly in the cup now, them 2 fighting seems to be the only sensible thing to do.
Sure the host could do that, but it wouldn’t be 100% fair for Liav for the reason I explained in my previous post.

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If Mycy decides to do so, I can even let all 3 repeat their group games and I will agree to have my bracket win removed.
I also agree with this way of resolving ties. Like I said, it’s another valid form of justice. If you don’t mind losing your progress in the cup to allow the 3 to compete among each other fairly, this is a reasonable option too.

Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2021, 06:43 AM »
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First of all, the way the score is counted is done by TUS’s own system

By that system anyone with 2:0, 2:0, 2:0 victories get "3/6", the same number that people get after having 2:1, 2:1, 2:1 or 2:0, 2:0, 2:1. You are basically just proving my point by refering to the TUS system. TUS doesn't care if you lost the round when winning, you are on equal position as somebody who won 2:0. Spare everybody's time and do your research next time.

Offline Magnus

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2021, 07:36 AM »
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First of all, the way the score is counted is done by TUS’s own system

By that system anyone with 2:0, 2:0, 2:0 victories get "3/6", the same number that people get after having 2:1, 2:1, 2:1 or 2:0, 2:0, 2:1. You are basically just proving my point by refering to the TUS system. TUS doesn't care if you lost the round when winning, you are on equal position as somebody who won 2:0. Spare everybody's time and do your research next time.
In that case obviously not since the matches won number wouldn’t be the same among players. Then you wouldn’t need to use the extra rounds to untie. Number of rounds won is just a tie break system used in case players had the same amount of matches won. And if TUS didn’t care about extra round wins, their number wouldn’t be showing in the Won column. BlankASD and Liav are actually 2/5 there, whereas Mai is actually 2/4. If TUS didn’t care about the rounds, it’d just show 2 for each of the three.

I don’t care what Mycy will decide. I’m just clearing things up here; both ways are acceptable as it all depends on what rules the cup is being played on.

Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2021, 09:17 AM »
I get your point. The thing is that Mycy got 32 people to manage. If one makes 2 mistakes about reporting 1:0 instead of 2:0 and then another of reporting 2:1 instead of 2:0, and Mycy gets no message whatsoever for days, then Mycy got no choice but to follow plain "wins/losses" rule, especially since Liav was granted walkover to begin with. Even if we are to follow your way of counting rounds, Liav made a mistake of letting Mai play and acknowledging his 3rd won round, after Liav already got 2 won ones. At this point, it's just too messy to eliminate Mai like that since by the end of the day he did win 1 round out of 3. If he really is a player not deserving to go through, he will lose to Blank.
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Offline Magnus

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2021, 04:20 PM »
Disconsidering Mai’s won round over Liav is no different than what Mycy did about Pisyavki’s 3rd win over tlocoselli. There is no third game to consider after a 2-0. We did try to warn Mycy about Liav’s mistake; even Liav himself told me he sent Mycy a message about it.

Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2021, 05:09 PM »
Disconsidering Mai’s won round over Liav is no different than what Mycy did about Pisyavki’s 3rd win over tlocoselli. There is no third game to consider after a 2-0. We did try to warn Mycy about Liav’s mistake; even Liav himself told me he sent Mycy a message about it.

Alright, I am convinced, but Mycy said he got no message from Liav. I really don't mind any scenario. If Mycy wants, he can cancel my win and I can play my bracket stage with somebody else, I'm bored after all.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2021, 05:12 PM by ZorroX »

Offline danie

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2021, 05:21 PM »
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Offline Requin

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2021, 03:44 PM »
Mycy, why did you delete my victory with Ty3? this game took place very first  ;)
PS and it looks very strange 2-0 Requin vs Sibasa (I replayed the game with Sibasa at his request, total result 4 -0), 2-1 Ty3 vs Requin,  :-\ 2-0 Ty3 vs Sibasa :-\ very strang
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« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 05:44 PM by Requin »

Offline ZorroX

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2021, 04:13 PM »
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I replayed the game with Sibasa at his request, total result 4 -0

Liav! lets have some more rounds as well, I wanna play bo7 too  ;D

EDIT: just talked to Liav, he agrees to continue our bracket match up to Bo9. Can we play like this Mycy? please please please agreeeee : D
« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 04:42 PM by ZorroX »

Offline Requin

Re: Cup #1064, May Mole Cup 2018
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2021, 04:43 PM »
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I replayed the game with Sibasa at his request, total result 4 -0

Liav! lets have some more rounds as well, I wanna play bo7 too  ;D

Honest and confident players have nothing to fear 8) fear for only cowards and chiters  8)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 04:53 PM by Requin »