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Offline Dream Trance

Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE] - general thread
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:45 AM »
This thread will be dedicated solely to the league event. There are 9 players signed up for this event within season 2.

Games list will be posted soon, you can arrange your games here, each game will be appointed to certain hosts, so you would have to contact them to host games for you.

The total amount of games per player for this event is 16.

Games can start on 1st January.

The deadline is 22nd February.

This shrinkage happens because 2 players resigned quite early on and it makes it the same amount of players as in season 1 that was also a 2 months one, plus the activity was huge in January so just a couple of games to be completed.

There will be separate topic for updated rankings / stats so all will be convenient just to make your life easier, when arranging all your games remember to find the host that is responsible for your games (will be announced in a few days).

Enjoy this event.

Players list:

Alien (GER)
Asbest (UKR) (can't play from 2PM until 4PM GMT at working days)
Berria (POL)
DreamTrance (POL) main host of the event
Hurz   (GER) substitute host of the event
Kayz    (GER) main host of the event
o (CRO)
pizzasheet (AUS) (can play from 1AM until 1PM GMT)
Zexorz (POL)

MarianRV & boolca withdrawn from this event.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 06:32 PM by Dream Trance »

Offline Dream Trance

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2014, 11:14 PM »
Deadline has been shortened due to good activity in January and so the season 3 can be started earlier.

A total of 72 games to be played in this season 2 event between 1st January and 22nd February.

This list is updated after 19th February, 59 of 72 games played

Full game list:

Alien 3-1 Asbest
Alien 3-2 Berria
Alien 3-2 DreamTrance
Alien vs Hurz [hosted by Kayz]
Alien 0-3 Kayz
Alien 3-0 o
Alien 3-0 pizzasheet
Alien 3-0 Zexorz
Asbest 1-3 Alien
Asbest 2-3 Berria
Asbest 3-1 DreamTrance
Asbest vs Hurz [hosted by nickynick]
Asbest 0-3 Kayz
Asbest 3-0 o
Asbest 3-0 pizzasheet
Asbest 3-0 Zexorz * Zexorz didn't play 3rd. Asbest gor 15 free points for unplayed round.
Berria 3-0 Alien
Berria 3-1 Asbest
Berria 0-3 DreamTrance
Berria 3-0 Hurz
Berria 0-3 Kayz
Berria 3-0 o
Berria 3-2 pizzasheet
Berria 3-0 Zexorz
DreamTrance 3-1 Alien
DreamTrance 3-1 Asbest
DreamTrance 3-0 Berria
DreamTrance 3-0 Hurz
DreamTrance 0-3 Kayz
DreamTrance 3-0 o
DreamTrance 3-0 pizzasheet
DreamTrance 3-0 Zexorz
Hurz vs Alien [hosted by DreamTrance]
Hurz vs Asbest [hosted by DreamTrance]
Hurz 0-3 Berria
Hurz 1-3 DreamTrance
Hurz 0-3 Kayz
Hurz vs o [hosted by DreamTrance]
Hurz vs pizzasheet [hosted by DreamTrance]
Hurz 3-1 Zexorz
Kayz 3-1 Alien
Kayz 3-0 Asbest
Kayz 3-1 Berria
Kayz 3-1 DreamTrance
Kayz 3-0 Hurz
Kayz 3-0 o
Kayz 3-0 pizzasheet
Kayz 3-0 Zexorz
o 3-2 Alien * This game dropped twice in Round 5, by both players, eventually ended up in o's win.
o 1-3 Asbest
o vs Berria [hosted by nickynick]
o 0-3 DreamTrance
o vs Hurz [hosted by nickynick]
o 0-3 Kayz
o 3-0 pizzasheet
o 3-0 Zexorz
pizzasheet 2-3 Alien
pizzasheet 0-3 Asbest
pizzasheet 1-3 Berria
pizzasheet 1-3 DreamTrance
pizzasheet 3-0 Hurz * Game dropped at big pizzasheet's advantage in Round 3 at 2-0, Hurz gave last round to pizzasheet.
pizzasheet 0-3 Kayz
pizzasheet 3-0 o
pizzasheet vs Zexorz [hosted by DreamTrance]
Zexorz 0-3 Alien
Zexorz vs Asbest [hosted by Kayz]
Zexorz 0-3 Berria
Zexorz 0-3 DreamTrance
Zexorz vs Hurz [hosted by Kayz]
Zexorz 0-3 Kayz
Zexorz vs o [hosted by Kayz]
Zexorz vs pizzasheet [hosted by Kayz]

Full game list by players:

Alien's games
-------------

Alien vs Hurz
Hurz vs Alien

Asbest's games
--------------

Asbest vs Hurz
Hurz vs Asbest

Zexorz vs Asbest

Berria's games
--------------

o vs Berria

Hurz' games
-----------

Hurz vs Alien
Alien vs Hurz

Hurz vs Asbest
Asbest vs Hurz

Hurz vs o
o vs Hurz

Hurz vs pizzasheet

Zexorz vs Hurz

o's games
---------

o vs Berria

o vs Hurz
Hurz vs o

Zexorz vs o

pizzasheet's games
------------------

Hurz vs pizzasheet

pizzasheet vs Zexorz
Zexorz vs pizzasheet

Zexorz' games
-------------

Zexorz vs Asbest

Zexorz vs Hurz

Zexorz vs o

Zexorz vs pizzasheet
pizzasheet vs Zexorz
« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 03:08 PM by Dream Trance »

Offline Kayz

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 04:03 AM »
Here's a fast change of the performance point system:

In Kaos League Season 1, won games only got rewarded by basic points. This created  the option that it was possible to get more performance points, if one player for example wins 3-2 instead of 3-0, since he got 2 rounds more where he could achieve performance points outside of survivors and time.
To prevent this irrationality, basic points in Season 2 will be added to the performance points.

Example: Winning 3-0 instead of 3-2 gives a player 4 performance points more, so one quadruple kill is enough to equalize the two lost rounds, which is more fair.

To make it more clear:
Let's take three players: A, B and C. All three played 30 games, but not vs. each other.
A and B have the same playing style and manage to get 150 points with their played games (survivors, kills etc).
B got 0 points in the round he lost!
A wins all games 3-0
B wins 29 games 3-0 but 3-1.
So A gets 150 + 8*30 = 390 points
So B gets 150 + 8*29 + 6 = 388 points

In the old system, they'd be equal, but of course 3-1 is worse performance than 3-0, so 2 points more is fair.

Now comes player C and wins all games 3-2, but he also has the same playing style as A and B. He even managed to get some performace points in the rounds he lost, let's say half as much than usual, since he didn't have survivors, which results in 5*30+2.5*20 = 200 points!
It's just a fact that it's possible to get more performance if you play more rounds, which is irrational and illogical.

Because player C won all games 3-2, he only gets 4*30 = 120 extra points. His final performance result is 320 points, only 70 points less than player A. Without this rule he would be having 200 points, while player A and B would have 150, though all three players have the same performance, and C just had more rounds. He deserves to have less, since winning all games 3-0 is much harder than 3-2.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 04:26 AM by Kayz »

Offline Dream Trance

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 04:07 AM »
And I approve this message, this will be the official piece of information correcting existing rules.

Offline Dream Trance

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 05:39 AM »
Quoting some extract from the rules about dropping issues:

I met some opinion yesterday that this system is very unfair and should be changed immediately, what do you all think, please tell, because I wanted it to be as fair as possible, but maybe I'm wrong.

The "unfair" rule was meant to be point 2, that is highlighted in yellow.

"If a drop will occur in any match, game will be repeated from the start, depending on who caused it there can be following scenarios:

1. Player causing the drop is losing in the match

- winning player who didn't drop decides on keeping his score or restart from 0-0 (fair-play points - 3 points for each round).

2. Player causing the drop is winning in the match

- losing player who didn't drop decides on keeping the winning player's score (fair-play points - 3 points for each round) or restart from 0-0


In case of a drop while tied (0-0, 1-1, 2-2) game is replayed from the tied result it was there prior to the dropped round, but if a player who didn't drop had significant advantage or weapons advantage he shall get compensation performance points.

All performance points earned in the round that crashed are unfortunately lost for obvious fair-play reasons (to maintain fair chances for everyone to earn points in exact amount of rounds played). The only exception is when there were some already earned while the host drops game.

In case the host drops, the game is repeated from a result that was there prior to the round it dropped in plus the player who was leading also receives compensation points to cover his potential lost points and worm / weapon advantage gained in dropped round."

Offline Kayz

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 08:14 PM »
Well Asbest's arguments were flawed. He didn't think it through.

I think it's great that the player who didn't drop can decide, what to do. Because you can't put a general rule for dropping. You can never know if it was a power shortage or on purpose or just random WormNet fail. With giving that power to a player, he can decide on his own for the most fair action, without being obliged by a rule to do something unfair, if the other player had just bad luck dropping.

Asbest suggested that the score should be kept, no matter who drops, but then you can get this situation:

Imagine Player A leads 2-0 vs Player B, and in third round Player A has 1 worm and Player B has 7 or something.

So Player A thinks: "Ha if the score stays, I can just plug my internet cable and return with 8 worms from comfortable 2-0 situation." This rule prevents this, since Player B could just say 0-0 after A "drops", so Player A won't even get the idea of plugging his internet cable, because it'd mean risking losing his already won rounds. This rule prevents people from doing unfair shit, and if something happens, it's up to the player to find a fair solution, which is completely fine.

Good job creating this rule, DreamTrance.

Offline Dream Trance

Re: Season 2 [KAOS LEAGUE]
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2015, 04:17 AM »
To make your victories displayed in an even more convenient way I decided to make your winning profile so you can clearly see who you won against so far:

Kayz kaos scalps:

Kayz 3-0 Alien
Kayz 3-1 Alien
Kayz 3-0 Asbest
Kayz 3-0 Asbest
Kayz 3-0 Berria
Kayz 3-1 Berria
Kayz 3-0 DreamTrance
Kayz 3-1 DreamTrance
Kayz 3-0 Hurz
Kayz 3-0 Hurz
Kayz 3-0 o
Kayz 3-0 o
Kayz 3-0 pizzasheet
Kayz 3-0 pizzasheet
Kayz 3-0 Zexorz
Kayz 3-0 Zexorz

DreamTrance's kaos scalps:

DreamTrance 3-1 Alien
DreamTrance 3-1 Asbest
DreamTrance 3-0 Berria
DreamTrance 3-0 Berria
DreamTrance 3-0 Hurz
DreamTrance 3-1 Hurz
DreamTrance 3-0 o
DreamTrance 3-0 o
DreamTrance 3-0 pizzasheet
DreamTrance 3-1 pizzasheet
DreamTrance 3-0 Zexorz
DreamTrance 3-0 Zexorz

Berria's kaos scalps:

Berria 3-0 Alien
Berria 3-2 Asbest
Berria 3-1 Asbest
Berria 3-0 Hurz
Berria 3-0 Hurz
Berria 3-0 o
Berria 3-2 pizzasheet
Berria 3-1 pizzasheet
Berria 3-0 Zexorz
Berria 3-0 Zexorz

Alien's kaos scalps:

Alien 3-1 Asbest
Alien 3-1 Asbest
Alien 3-2 Berria
Alien 3-2 DreamTrance
Alien 3-0 o
Alien 3-0 pizzasheet
Alien 3-2 pizzasheet
Alien 3-0 Zexorz
Alien 3-0 Zexorz

Asbest's kaos scalps:

Asbest 3-1 DreamTrance
Asbest 3-0 o
Asbest 3-1 o
Asbest 3-0 pizzasheet
Asbest 3-0 pizzasheet
Asbest 3-0 Zexorz

o's kaos scalps:

o 3-2 Alien
o 3-0 pizzasheet
o 3-0 Zexorz

pizzasheet's kaos scalps:

pizzasheet 3-0 Hurz
pizzasheet 3-0 o

Hurz kaos scalps:

Hurz 3-1 Zexorz
« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 02:59 PM by Dream Trance »