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Title: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 14, 2011, 09:43 PM
Im kinda pissed when I see the current seasonal standings in tus classic league.
I never even played r3spect, so I'd like to challenge him in a series of 8 games, all different schemes for tus classic league.

So r3spect, do you accept the challenge?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Maciej on January 14, 2011, 09:50 PM
oh man relax... Just take a look at his opponents, do you wanna get points the same way as he does? XD you fancy beating noobs too? XD
it happens in every season, some noob looks for even bigger noobs and then he thinks he is pro...
and you know about that too Random :P
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: darKz on January 14, 2011, 09:55 PM
lol nice, now show some balls r3spect.

Btw I agree that the seasonal standings are looking a bit ugly. But as far as TUS goes, they deserve to be shown as the top players. ;) [/irony]
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 14, 2011, 10:12 PM
8:0 or a dodge.

30:70
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: franz on January 14, 2011, 10:19 PM
why so pissed when you haven't played classic single regularly since Oct 9, two seasons ago?  :P
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 14, 2011, 10:38 PM
I can see Randoms point though, he is entirely right, although r3spect isn't the greatest player, it is a bit unfair he only challenges "noobs".

r3spect, you should show some respect (lol) and accept this challenge.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Dub-c on January 14, 2011, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Random00 on January 14, 2011, 09:43 PM
Im kinda pissed when I see the current seasonal standings in tus classic league.
I never even played r3spect, so I'd like to challenge him in a series of 8 games, all different schemes for tus classic league.

So r3spect, do you accept the challenge?

Lame. I really hope you are drunk.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: DENnis on January 14, 2011, 10:49 PM
Quote from: Random00 on January 14, 2011, 09:43 PM
Im kinda pissed when I see the current seasonal standings in tus classic league.
I never even played r3spect, so I'd like to challenge him in a series of 8 games, all different schemes for tus classic league.

So r3spect, do you accept the challenge?

Big + !
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 14, 2011, 10:53 PM
omg komito u are child ?  i play with friends and really nice guys (no noobs player) never talk again this my friends , and all guys who want tus . btw no problem radom00 can play with u.

Btw plz admin delate my statistic if komito want. Thats no really important. really iam now very angry.  
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: franz on January 14, 2011, 10:58 PM
i think r3spect is a pretty cool guy.  eh plays everyone and doesnt afraid of anything
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 14, 2011, 10:58 PM
Lol r3spect, calm down, you know I like ya :P
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: DENnis on January 14, 2011, 10:59 PM
Don't be angry, all will be good if u play with everybody, especially random, will be nice games :)  1 + for respect now ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 14, 2011, 11:08 PM
denis i not report my wins today with u f@#! this shit. iam really suprised your opinion about me guys.  Thats all opinion not true. iam no noobs and lame. and f@#!ing this statistic deleted admin really plz this. I can be last and i f@#!ing this.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: angus on January 14, 2011, 11:14 PM
NoobasherNoobasher

edit: s0ka smiter
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: DENnis on January 14, 2011, 11:15 PM
respect, wtf? U r good, especially in rope games! don't be so pissed now, just play.

I didnt beat ya in that ttrr and hysteria, so pls upload, ggs ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 14, 2011, 11:27 PM
angus no commnet too .

no denis ... only plz admin deleted my statistic. ty
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Vultoz on January 14, 2011, 11:45 PM
Aw, what a mess... u guys could have talked about the tus rating system without atack the guy, random00 would play against him in the PO anyway if both reachs the final. The rank just set the members of playoffs, season only have one true winner which is the PO winner, tho.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 15, 2011, 12:03 AM
Ok guys.
I tried to say that Seasonal Ratings suck ass in several topics, but it seems that there was just a minority who thought so. So I wanted to bring some attention to this by creating this topic.
It's not about getting wins or points by this challenge. I doubt its even necessary to play it when I look at these answers here, lol.
I just created this topic, so you see how messed up the tus classic system is. I stopped playing classic for a while, because it was just no more fun when you lose 70+ points when you dont play our best (you can lose t17's to basically anyone just due to bl...).

Also, the PO winner doesn't get enough attention, imo. LW is doing good in this point imo: http://www.ligaworms.org/
But on tus, after the season you switch to previous standings and you see someone on top with 90%+ winning percentage and a huge load of points, so you obviously think that he pwns.

About challenges: I'd like to have something like free's elite challenge again. So if anyone is interested in any challenge, just PM me ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Dub-c on January 15, 2011, 12:14 AM
Maybe you should worry about yourself Random00 instead of attacking other players. Since when have you ever sought out in any season to play against the best players.

This season in TEL you are 22-2. You have played ONE game against someone in the top 15 overall.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: angus on January 15, 2011, 12:21 AM
Quote from: Johnny on January 15, 2011, 12:14 AM

This season in TEL you are 22-2. You have played ONE game against someone in the top 15 overall.

That means nothing because the new season of Tel is just started...

And respect u should acept this challenge vs random00 is a nice thing play against good players and maybe learn some tips from they imo...  ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Kaleu on January 15, 2011, 12:50 AM
(http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/04/mk2_ps3_soon.jpg)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 15, 2011, 01:31 AM
Quote from: SnipeR` on January 15, 2011, 12:50 AM
(http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/04/mk2_ps3_soon.jpg)

This would have been better if you had photoshopped it so it had Random00 and r3spect instead of RAIDEN and MILEENA ;)

But good one anyway lol
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Uber on January 15, 2011, 03:01 AM
lol, why so serious?! :) R3spect, no need 2 be that emotional, i seen far worse things written at these forums without ppl threatning 2 leave tus and "delete my stats" bla bla! U cant run from the fact that 47-2 in 49 games will be commented when its basically vs 5 guys no1 ever heard of. STILL this is fully legal, and Random00 just used u as an example, so no need 2 dramatise this, lol.

Anyways, sure the tus classic singles standings looks kinda "strange" now, thats basically cause top 30 overall doesnt play it lately(most of em) , maybe cause of TEL? I know thats why i dont play tus singles atm, but im sure i will do it sometime again. And of course this isnt the "other players" fault at all, its just kinda strange looking at the standings atm! :)

Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 15, 2011, 03:06 AM
dudes i undestand it is kinda strange for single standings atm, iam just inactive on this nowadays, thats why u guys dont see my name on top, maybe one day ill play again, and all will back to normal, sorry for this tho.

:D
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 15, 2011, 06:20 AM
In the new season I'll be tweaking leagues system as I mentioned before. Also the overall standings of the current season will be shown along with seasonal table.

But as some you mentioned, many of you are not playing classic league.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 09:34 AM
people understand not everyone has the time to play when I want. But now it's f@#! and play when he wants and with whom I want and I give a shit what the one who writes.

sry for google trans.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 09:39 AM
btw radom00 wait for u :)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 15, 2011, 10:02 AM
Why u didnt act like that from beginning? I never ever see you searching for tus like "tus anyone?".

That topic wouldnt be here so just work on you and dont challenge some "newbs" asking via background only.

Your nickname is respect - so do it! :d
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MettyPlax on January 15, 2011, 10:03 AM
PL: czekac kurwa. r3spect nie gra z noobami, sam nim nie jestem, on woli grac z Pr0-ludzmi na WA, po to gra zeby sie nauczyc wiecej, i wiecej

EN: wait, r3spect dont' play whit noob, i not noob, her like play whit pr0-people, her play for study more and more
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MettyPlax on January 15, 2011, 10:05 AM
Quote from: SPW on January 15, 2011, 10:02 AM
Why u didnt act like that from beginning? I never ever see you searching for tus like "tus anyone?".

That topic wouldnt be here so just work on you and dont challenge some "newbs" asking via background only.

Your nickname is respect - so do it! :d


Oh no, i can send a image whit her recaals for "TUS any1" ??
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 15, 2011, 10:14 AM
QuoteEN: wait, r3spect dont' play whit noob, i not noob, her like play whit pr0-people, her play for study more and more

I just checked one ttrr and one hyst from you vs him (not her).

no more comments. ;d

Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Maciej on January 15, 2011, 10:16 AM
Quote from: aviator on January 15, 2011, 10:03 AM
PL: czekac kurwa. r3spect nie gra z noobami, sam nim nie jestem, on woli grac z Pr0-ludzmi na WA, po to gra zeby sie nauczyc wiecej, i wiecej

EN: wait, r3spect dont' play whit noob, i not noob, her like play whit pr0-people, her play for study more and more

for the first i didn't know that respect was a girl
for the second, nothing against, but you have never seen pro
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: HHC on January 15, 2011, 10:57 AM
You know what would be funny, respect kicking Random's ass 8-0 hahaha  :D
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: darKz on January 15, 2011, 02:13 PM
Quote from: HHC on January 15, 2011, 10:57 AM
You know what would be funny, respect kicking Random's ass 8-0 hahaha  :D

No way that's ever gonna happen. :D

And MI: As Random already said, it's no fun playing TUS when you got a high overall rating and whenever you look at the standings, you're only #127 or so. I know you can click "show overall standings", but hell it's just not right. :)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 15, 2011, 02:18 PM
Yeah cuz being 1st by over 1250 points isn't good enough...

His fault for being so good :P
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 15, 2011, 02:22 PM
the same issue iam getting with TEL lol, indeed not fun get normally 20-30 points for a win and lose 50-60 for a lose, but np, thats all fine cos king
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 15, 2011, 02:24 PM
@darKz, I'm stuck in a mess, I'll be back on TUS in a month for good.
@nino, pick better opponents.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 15, 2011, 02:33 PM
Why don't you make it for Classic league you can only play the same opponent a certain amount of times in a week or 2 days, some examples:

4 games per week
4 games per every 4 days (until games played reaches 15)
8 games every 2 weeks (until games played reaches 15)

Or maybe even a slightly more complicated system.

If you beat someone 5 games in a row, you are not allowed to play them again for the rest of the season?

If you beat someone 4 games in a row you are not allowed to play them for 15 days?

Let's improvise, find a solution?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 15, 2011, 02:36 PM
@monkey

i dont pick..i ask for tel in ag.. 90% of opponets are like this..not my fault and i wont be w8ing all day to have a game with random00..mablak or someone else, i just play who says yes.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Guaton on January 15, 2011, 03:10 PM
+1 at nino's posts
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 15, 2011, 02:24 PM
@nino, pick better opponents.


i have the same problems with classic league and its rly hard playto higher rated players , cos the most of them are inactive or its hard to get them around wormnet ...

everytime i ask for tus at wormnet , a wormer lower rated than me ( or new zillian player xD) answer me with a "me tus "  and when im gonna check the analyzer i get pissed cos if i win i'll get 20 pointsas much and if i lose ,i'll lose atleast 50 points lol  , but what can i do?  tell him " no gtfo i wont win any point"? no cos thats not correct lol ...

but dude , sometimes  i say " why should i keep playing tus if i win a shit of points? " ...  i hate losing points , it was rly hard to get the overall i have atm and im not a random00 or dibz or any pro to win everygames i play , and im not gonna stop playing tus cos i like play leagues xDD 

but what can u do MI?  anything xDD so gtfo Guaton stop crying u emo


: (
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Chicken23 on January 15, 2011, 03:23 PM
yesterday i asked for TuS. tita asked me for tel. I said i wasnt active, he asked for 2 tus hysterias, i said we both pick. I'll pick t17, he was like no.

I could of got some nice points in t17 and elite vs him for classic league but he only wanted tel or two hysterias, this was said. However. You can't force people to pick and play what you want them to.

You may win less points off lower ranked players compared to higher ones but if you still play enough and win enough you'll still climb the ladder surely.

Pro hunting, noob bashing, avoiding, all these things happen. But frankly there is nothing to do about it. its just the way some people are.


(ps, i hadnt read this thread before posting so sorry if ive got the wrong end of the stick here)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 15, 2011, 04:35 PM
we started. its 1-1 so far. bng and hysteria played. guess what I've lost. and how. wow.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 04:46 PM
i wins bgn u hysteria ok u very pr0 all see that but just relax thats only game...  no really live .  all think i lose 8-0 no now meaby 7-1 ;]
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Ray on January 15, 2011, 04:48 PM
If the top players don't play the Classic League because it's not fun to play when you can lose a lot of points, how come The Ultimate Cup is so inactive? You can't lose points there.

I can imagine that BnG victory. Rolled in 4 secs? NO WAY, I HIT THE JACKPOT, MY GUESS WAS PERFECT!
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 15, 2011, 05:05 PM
Quote from: Ray on January 15, 2011, 04:48 PM
I can imagine that BnG victory. Rolled in 4 secs? NO WAY, I HIT THE JACKPOT, MY GUESS WAS PERFECT!

Lol ! Good one, +1 xD
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 05:18 PM
Quote from: Chicken23 on January 15, 2011, 03:23 PM
You can't force people to pick and play what you want them to.


yep +1
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Dub-c on January 15, 2011, 05:22 PM
The rules need changed. Don't bitch at respect.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 05:41 PM
iam no bitch if rulez change np for me man
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Rok on January 15, 2011, 07:19 PM
He didn't say you are a bitch.

bitch

n
1. a female dog or other female canine animal, such as a wolf
2. Slang, derogatory a malicious, spiteful, or coarse woman
3. Informal a complaint
4. Informal a difficult situation or problem
vb Informal
1. (intr) to complain; grumble                                              <-- this
2. to behave (towards) in a spiteful or malicious manner          <-- or this
3. (tr, often foll by up) to botch; bungle
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Uber on January 15, 2011, 10:00 PM
Dub stop calling R3spect a bitch... wtf man??

xD
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 15, 2011, 10:03 PM
xd :D:D
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Dub-c on January 16, 2011, 06:12 AM
lol he smites me.  ;D
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 16, 2011, 06:16 AM
Johnny didn't call you a bitch r3spect, to say "someone is bitching" is another way of saying "they are moaning/complaining".
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: angus on January 16, 2011, 06:41 AM
Nino keep ask TEL to me, because im noob in elite hahaha king ;p

are you an girl respect?

Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Dub-c on January 16, 2011, 07:42 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 16, 2011, 07:57 AM
vsf u both xD
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: CMV on January 16, 2011, 05:31 PM
r3spect also seems to host the same map quite a lot of times when he plays ttrr (Fearless 69). It's a little bit unfair to play in such way.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: koziol on January 17, 2011, 12:06 AM
Hello random00 I am a new player and may not know you but I'm very familiar people, and I see that you can not bear it that someone so little famous as r3spect wins more games than you. Think of the new player is a noob?!. Not a new player does not mean that he is a noob.
everyone is afraid to oppose you, but I do not, because I see that you're looking like any NORMAL
you have to buy a menstrual sanitary and not cry when compiling because someone has more points than you
complain to mommy
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Husk on January 17, 2011, 12:40 AM
koziol, welcome to TUS!
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 17, 2011, 12:57 AM
haha xDD
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 01:32 AM
Oo loool
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Uber on January 17, 2011, 01:35 AM
Hello there r3pects brother! :D
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 17, 2011, 06:43 AM
Quote from: koziol on January 17, 2011, 12:06 AM
Hello random00 I am a new player and may not know you but I'm very familiar people, and I see that you can not bear it that someone so little famous as r3spect wins more games than you. Think of the new player is a noob?!. Not a new player does not mean that he is a noob.
everyone is afraid to oppose you, but I do not, because I see that you're looking like any NORMAL
you have to buy a menstrual sanitary and not cry when compiling because someone has more points than you
complain to mommy


Welcome to TUS koziol!
I'm afraid you got it wrong. Random00 were not insulting or anything. He simply challenged r3spect to a series of games. But you are coming strong on him. Random00 is a very nice guy. If you believe that pro players shouldn't sell pride to newbies, then newbies shouldn't disrespect pros either.

Quote from: Ray on January 15, 2011, 04:48 PM
I can imagine that BnG victory. Rolled in 4 secs? NO WAY, I HIT THE JACKPOT, MY GUESS WAS PERFECT!
TUS BnG is nothing new. Everybody know its rules and everybody know how lame it can be. I even remember Random doing 4sec full power there. I think that's very biased. If Random00 win, then he won a newbie, but if the newbie win, then he got lucky? I think r3spect won that game fair and squire. Winning one game doesn't mean the winner is better but it also shouldn't mean to take his victory credit away from him.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 08:56 AM
[2011-01-15 16.16.34] [CF-Random00`ea] rr next
[2011-01-15 16.16.44] [CF-Random00`ea] we play everything. hyst next
[2011-01-15 16.16.45] [cD`r3spect] mine pick
[2011-01-15 16.16.54] [CF-Random00`ea] we play ALLL SCHEMES
[2011-01-15 16.17.05] [cD`r3spect] no time today
[2011-01-15 16.17.06] [CF-Random00`ea] whats so hard to understand?
[2011-01-15 16.17.10] [CF-Random00`ea] dude rr is fast
[2011-01-15 16.17.12] [CF-Random00`ea] after this hyst
[2011-01-15 16.17.13] [cD`r3spect] tel
[2011-01-15 16.17.14] [CF-Random00`ea] and then break
[2011-01-15 16.17.37] [cD`r3spect] u pick bng mine pick hysteria
[2011-01-15 16.17.41] [cD`r3spect] :)
[2011-01-15 16.17.43] [CF-Random00`ea] WE PLAY TODAY:
[2011-01-15 16.17.44] [cD`r3spect] today
[2011-01-15 16.17.49] [CF-Random00`ea] BNG, RR AND HYST
[2011-01-15 16.17.49] [cD`r3spect] tomorroow next
[2011-01-15 16.17.52] [CF-Random00`ea] so LIGHT UP
[2011-01-15 16.18.00] [cD`r3spect] mans not angry
[2011-01-15 16.18.03] [cD`r3spect] if u lose
[2011-01-15 16.18.07] [cD`r3spect] u pro i know
[2011-01-15 16.18.12] [cD`r3spect] u better for me
[2011-01-15 16.18.19] [cD`r3spect] my happy of course
[2011-01-15 16.18.23] [CF-Random00`ea] light up
[2011-01-15 16.18.31] [cD`r3spect] but plz hysteria now  tomorrow ttrr
[2011-01-15 16.18.39] [CF-Random00`ea] no
[2011-01-15 16.18.41] [cD`r3spect] today no chance drunk 2 beer ok
[2011-01-15 16.18.45] [CF-Random00`ea] pff
[2011-01-15 16.18.46] [CF-Random00`ea] dude
[2011-01-15 16.18.49] [CF-Random00`ea] you are a joke
[2011-01-15 16.18.51] [cD`r3spect] thats only plz
[2011-01-15 16.18.59] [cD`r3spect] thats a problem
[2011-01-15 16.19.00] [cD`r3spect] ?
[2011-01-15 16.19.03] [CF-Random00`ea] you are a problem




[2011-01-15 16.31.39] [cD`r3spect] no sry
[2011-01-15 16.31.43] [cD`r3spect] today saturday
[2011-01-15 16.31.52] [cD`r3spect] girfriend etc
[2011-01-15 16.31.56] [CF-Random00`ea] im not a retard, I know that its saturday
[2011-01-15 16.32.05] [cD`r3spect] s a t u r d a y
[2011-01-15 16.32.15] [CF-Random00`ea] have fun with sex with your hand.
[2011-01-15 16.32.46] [cD`r3spect] now 1-1
[2011-01-15 16.32.49] [CF-Random00`ea] amazing answer
[2011-01-15 16.32.57] [cD`r3spect] sry but my ang bad
[2011-01-15 16.32.58] [CF-Random00`ea] you're my hero
[2011-01-15 16.32.58] [CF-Random00`ea] b



so monkey tell my this is cultutre Pro Player ? He hates me
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 08:58 AM
[2011-01-15 16.19.03] [CF-Random00`ea] you are a problem


ye i know man. for u
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: zippeurfou on January 17, 2011, 09:19 AM
No need to spam here r3spect :).
To be honest, doing this kind of post is meaningless.
80% here (if not more) like and respect Random. Doing a post like that won't change anything. To be honest, when I see your post about reporting a chatlog it goes the opposite way.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 10:24 AM
zippeurf what you say is right. There is no intention to zoom out of a random00. However, I prove that random00 not like me and this post is only a subtext to this that the "change the rules. " and the above log I wanted to show that such sentences are not ok with his hand.


I think that is totally the opposite and that it was random00 wants to change opinions about me. For me it was always ok, and invisible to what purpose is all. He thinks that I play with noobami. And it's not true. for example, yesterday, and play with cssongi, olcsock, sniper, etc. these are the real pro players. However, once I managed to win once to lose. And that's why everyone has a problem with me? since I am doing nothing?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 17, 2011, 12:29 PM
hey guys,
Im not perfect!
In fact, I can get really mad when I lose a game in a certain way. That's mostly about BnG, because I alway try to play BnG as it used to be. Without repeating, overtimed shots or hiding where you can't throw direct nades. A lot of players don't play like this anymore, and becasue of this I'm calling them lame or something similar. ;d
I guess I should just learn to play "new" BnG and accept the fact that it's gameplay changed. The problem is that I just dont know anymore what is allowed and whats not. I guess I'll just go by the BnG Scheme explanation (I hope it's up-to-date ;x ).

Quote from: koziol on January 17, 2011, 12:06 AM
Hello random00 I am a new player and may not know you but I'm very familiar people, and I see that you can not bear it that someone so little famous as r3spect wins more games than you. Think of the new player is a noob?!. Not a new player does not mean that he is a noob.
everyone is afraid to oppose you, but I do not, because I see that you're looking like any NORMAL
you have to buy a menstrual sanitary and not cry when compiling because someone has more points than you
complain to mommy
Sure, Im just human. And there's nothing wrong with new players to win a lot of games. I just think that it's wrong that someone is at the first seasonal rank who is by far not the best player in this season. And I can't really judge r3spect's skill when I never played him. His statistics just looked like he was avoiding to play better players to get easy points.
So, with this challenge I just wanted to see how good he is.
If it was an easy 8-0 win for me, I knew for sure, that he doesn't deserve the first seasonal rank. At the moment it's 1-1, so maybe I was wrong, we'll see ;)


and about this chatlog: I was obviously angry about my bng lose ^^ starting with a lose when you try to win 8-0 is a bit furstrating as you might imagine ;x
(*irony inside*) Plus: I really love all the excuses why this and that isnt possible (e.g. no time for ttrr and then watching my tel game that I played afterwards...)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Chicken23 on January 17, 2011, 12:30 PM
Quote from: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 10:24 AM
He thinks that I play with noobami. And it's not true. for example, yesterday, and play with cssongi, olcsock, sniper, etc. these are the real pro players.

with the expection of oldsock just lol  ::)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Guaton on January 17, 2011, 12:44 PM
xD
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 01:10 PM
good post random00 ... But I disagree on two issues ...

first -> why do you say I'm avoiding some of the players?

Thats really not true. Often I play tus man. And with all what they want> Do I avoid anything. Why do you have for me the problem? I know that you are better, the better you play is likely to win 7-1. But do not say I'm a noob and that I'm avoiding someone.

second -> I told you to wait for a girl (was Saturday). Later I watched your game, drinking beer with her and and my friends.

In relation statistics: This is an idea who's playing often, it learns, and then the gore. My friends bonus is the second, third mojo, why do it to me you had a problem, what am I worse?

I think you just denerwous is that someone weaker is the first. Would you like to be of interest to you including you should always be the best, lest they said about you.?

Obviously it was always one you should be in the statistics, even without having to play a single game. Just as the pattern:)

dunno what you want to show it all, but surely everyone knows you're a pro.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 17, 2011, 01:23 PM
Random, if you want to be able to play BnG like how you describe you want to with respect and style at the same time challenging and competitive, join a2b, i've invited you before, we have a good thing going there :)

Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 17, 2011, 03:43 PM
we continued today.
I won TTRR and Team17.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 03:49 PM
yep :) but t17 really shit : placement, gun, cr!  mine bl
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Ray on January 17, 2011, 03:50 PM
I can kind of understand what r3spect says, I mean, I often have time to play TUS only when there are 30 people in #AnythingGoes and there is just noone else online to play TUS with. Would you say in a situation like that: "Ah not with you, no thanks, I need players with more points."?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking sides, that's just something I wanted to add here after reading his last post.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: angus on January 17, 2011, 04:00 PM
Quote from: Random00 on January 17, 2011, 12:29 PM

In fact, I can get really mad when I lose a game in a certain way. That's mostly about BnG, because I alway try to play BnG as it used to be. Without repeating, overtimed shots or hiding where you can't throw direct nades. A lot of players don't play like this anymore, and becasue of this I'm calling them lame or something similar. ;d

Damn yea, I agree
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: r3spect on January 17, 2011, 04:06 PM
I do not understand what you mean ray. Google translate shit.

Speaking of just play often and with each ... nothing more. And let no one told me not to pick myself from who I play
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Husk on January 17, 2011, 04:41 PM
topic favorited
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MettyPlax on January 18, 2011, 05:14 PM
PL: Mozecie zamknac ten temat??

EN: Moderators can close this thread??

IT: Moderatori possono chiudere questo topic??
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 18, 2011, 05:32 PM
Quote from: aviator on January 18, 2011, 05:14 PM
EN: Moderators can close this thread??

the challenge isnt over yet, so I dont see a reason to close the thread. ;d
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Anubis on January 20, 2011, 11:02 PM
Shouldn't the thread then be re-named to respect vs. random? It still says Overall vs. Seasonal, majority of this is a challenge. ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Mablak on January 25, 2011, 03:07 AM
For something that might actually be on topic... I'm pretty disappointed seeing how having a high overall standing lowers your seasonal standing, I no longer have any motivation to play TEL since I can't win a season or even come close. I don't understand why there aren't two rating calculations per game, one for overall and one for seasonal.

If the intention is for higher players to only play amongst themselves... even if we had enough players to make that work, there would be far too much trading off of points, all the good players would still be off the radar in terms of seasonal ratings. It seems like this system just encourages good players to get high up and then stop playing.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: angus on January 25, 2011, 03:12 AM
Quote from: Mablak on January 25, 2011, 03:07 AM
It seems like this system just encourages good players to get high up and then stop playing.

I agree
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: franz on January 25, 2011, 04:51 AM
MI said that he's working on showing the overall standings of the current season along with the seasonal table. (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-general/seasonal-vs-overall/msg49041/#msg49041)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: seBa on January 25, 2011, 06:21 AM
I understand to Random00  he played all the last session and now  in the new session he wins a shit of points xd, so its so hard for him climb in the standings, and that turn so boring play a league. I think ''TUS'' should do something about the scoring system for each session to be equitable for all players.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 25, 2011, 07:37 AM
Whats so bad about trying to stay at the top and defend your position?

You aren't ahead by THAT much tbh...

But the idea of 2 calculations per game sounds pretty good, care to give an example?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Husk on January 25, 2011, 08:07 AM
yea, the rating does it's job, you have a very good overall, which only very few players could hold. so if u just keep ur rating somewhere up there, u will always have position for playoffs from overall rating, don't u want to get into the playoffs?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:08 AM
Quote from: Mablak on January 25, 2011, 03:07 AM
For something that might actually be on topic... I'm pretty disappointed seeing how having a high overall standing lowers your seasonal standing, I no longer have any motivation to play TEL since I can't win a season or even come close. I don't understand why there aren't two rating calculations per game, one for overall and one for seasonal.

If the intention is for higher players to only play amongst themselves... even if we had enough players to make that work, there would be far too much trading off of points, all the good players would still be off the radar in terms of seasonal ratings. It seems like this system just encourages good players to get high up and then stop playing.

That's so true. TUS should doing everything to keep good players active and not giving "noobs" an easy advantage reaching playoff spots. I keep my opinion there, I just want for a one-scheme-league like TEL a reset - after every season.

Save the Pro's!
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 25, 2011, 08:11 AM
Quote from: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:08 AMand not giving "noobs" an easy advantage reaching playoff spots

If they are so noob, then beat them and stop them ;)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:22 AM
Quote from: Komito on January 25, 2011, 08:11 AM
Quote from: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:08 AMand not giving "noobs" an easy advantage reaching playoff spots

If they are so noob, then beat them and stop them ;)

Usually no problem, but when you only lose 1 out of 10 games, u still got minus points in the end. That's the problem, cause worms always gives everyone the chance to win just one game with luck. That's a good thing, actually. Watch at TEL Ranks if an average player like Killer starting with an overall rank about 700 points before the season. One loss, and 65+ points are lost. Even a average player like him can do playoffs easy then. Just "f@#!-up" one season and next one is easy to get in high positions. Or watch my way. I finished last season at unlucky position #9. I dont see a chance getting high at seasonal ranks in current season but also overall points are hard to hold / rise, so almost no chance to get into playoffs in case some players from last season keep their level up and got the limit of games (mablak, random00, mirux, crash, uber, franz etc). So guys like Killer are able to make the playoff spot much easier than a player like me, hanging around at that position from pre-season, which is just an huge handicap, nothing more.

U got it? 
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 25, 2011, 08:26 AM
I think 1/10 games is completely over the top lol, maybe when you lose 2-5 games out of 10, and I doubt if Killer is winning very little games, I doubt he will make the Playoffs.

If you wanna make Playoffs with Overall rank, then practise more, and get better like Mablak and Random.

You know what the funny thing is.

Most of you "top players" do actually cross paths on wnet ALOT, you are just too scared to play each other too much, and that's a fact.


Edit:

I think it's a shame when "pro players" hound average players for reaching playoffs just because they had a good streak and reached the top of the Seasonal, what's the big deal? ANYONE who reaches the Playoffs can't be a noob, if they were a noob they wouldn't win enough games and they wouldn't qualify with the % limit for starters.

It doesn't matter what the system is, you will only always get into the Playoffs for playing your best as much as often.

It is frustrating, but reaching the Playoffs and being 1st in Seasonal shouldn't be the only incentive to play Leagues.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Albino on January 25, 2011, 09:03 AM
I agree with SPW. And I don't really get why there is a rule at TEL that you can't reset your overall rating. Thanks to Tom for making this rule... :-X He is making rules but he is not even playing TEL.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 25, 2011, 09:32 AM
Why would you want to reset anyway?

That would mean that good players fed up with the "system" could reset and get a free ticket to the Playoffs with Seasonal points on their 1st run, and that isn't a good thing.


Oh by the way, sorry if I sound angry or anything i'm not lol, im just REALLY tired today after work and too lazy to type massive like I normally do lol.


Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
TUS will tweak its system for new season of Classic and TEL for sure.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: darKz on January 25, 2011, 02:27 PM
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
TUS will tweak its system for new season of Classic and TEL for sure.
Awesome. :)
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:41 PM
Quote from: darKz on January 25, 2011, 02:27 PM
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
TUS will tweak its system for new season of Classic and TEL for sure.
Awesome. :)

I'm looking forward.

@komo

You dont got it, I see. I didn't say, that someone like Killer is a noob, I just said, he's an average Eliter. But only being average doesnt give you the right, to qualify easier than others into playoffs. He isn't a noob, but defeantly not worth to call him "Top 8". At least not yet.

As I said before we were starting TEL season #1. I want to have every season Top 8 in playoffs - and no more handicap for some Top 8-20 Eliter's. It's just not fair, I simply prefer the fairest system we can make. That's all.

Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Husk on January 25, 2011, 09:18 PM
ummm yea if u compare the first season top 8 with this season's top 8, u can see the difference (;
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: nino on January 25, 2011, 11:42 PM
nino warned hauhua
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: TheKomodo on January 26, 2011, 07:34 AM
Quote from: SPW on January 25, 2011, 08:41 PMBut only being average doesnt give you the right, to qualify easier than others into playoffs.

It does if they have a good season and play good players.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Albino on January 26, 2011, 09:26 AM
Quote from: Komito on January 25, 2011, 09:32 AM
Why would you want to reset anyway?

That would mean that good players fed up with the "system" could reset and get a free ticket to the Playoffs with Seasonal points on their 1st run, and that isn't a good thing.

Guess why Komo?
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Chicken23 on January 26, 2011, 01:00 PM
Quote from: Albino on January 25, 2011, 09:03 AM
I agree with SPW. And I don't really get why there is a rule at TEL that you can't reset your overall rating. Thanks to Tom for making this rule... :-X He is making rules but he is not even playing TEL.

Oi

this would of been fine if more focus was on overall standings being more important than seasonal. Also when you could reset your overall rating, people abused it to gain easier seasonal points to make a playoff spots. I just came up with a solutions to that problem..

Like i said before about classic there should of been more po spots going to overall players, 2/3 or 3/4 of po spots for overall, and display the standings as overall as default. Viewing seasonal would then effectly become the 'bonus whoever earnt the highest rating change' awards to a smaller faction than whover has highest overall. (Handicap or whatever it was called at fb)

However this never got worked out and the po spots stayed on 50/50 for each type and seasonal remained the default view.
Title: Re: Seasonal vs Overall.
Post by: Random00 on January 28, 2011, 09:31 PM
We continued today. I won WxW and Shopper.
Just Elite and Roper left.