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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Statik on June 05, 2013, 04:39 PM
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Can you post some of your best warmers Komo? I always wanted to watch the best ropers warming at their best... I can't say Mablak's roping amazes me, robots are not artistic at all ;D
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lol komo never misses an opportunity to mention how great he thought he was.
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Statik - I stopped playing warmers round about 03/04 when I started BnG, and in my opinion the best roping anyone would ever see existed between 2000 - 2003, sadly replays didn't exist then, all we have are memories unfortunately... :'(
avi, I don't think son, I know ;)
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Around this time i was playing with Perfect bobbydanoob(wooka) joey kewlkat st0ney seantheawesome fopeboy sacraficiallamb biohazard sirsfnords smole scribe raze anger volrin stormy projectpat artharas antisocial... So many more and i left out people that still play.. And are relevant.. This was around 2005.. If anyone knows how to get ahold of st0ney or project pat pls let me know.
Real volrin hasnt played since about 2001. At least this is the general consensus. There has been many fake volrins running around though.
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not true, volrin was playing around 2004-2005
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not true, volrin was playing around 2004-2005
I've seen volrins, dextahs, wargods and jmobergs all the time :D I mean alias of them (since 2002)
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right, it could have been an alias
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So the volrin we had in our clan in 2005 was an alias? The data I gathered from previous TDC websites says he went inactive the 20th october in 2002 though (http://worms2d.info/The_Deadly_Clan), so I guess both Walrus and Husk could be right. I think this is a case for the alias police to handle :D
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bahahsha i love this new community...
guys, we are really swamped lately, our desks are crowded, the phones dont stop ringing, and our wives are complaining, because we never make it home for dinner! but duty calls! we promise to look into this case..
if you, or anyone you know has any information regarding volrin, and his true identity, please contact the alias police, at 1-800-tiptap
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So the volrin we had in our clan in 2005 was an alias?
That is exactly what im saying. Likely ropa or anubis. Between the two of them they've aliased every player of note out there. I remember when volrin left worms, im sure he wasn't playing between 2002-2004 when I was still active, at least the real one. Custick talked to him at least in 2007 or 2008 and he still wasn't playing worms, but was addicted to starcraft. Said he hadn't played since 2000 but i definitely remember him playing in 2001 or 2002. Skunk3 thought he was dead of cancer because apparently a (fake) volrin told him he had a tumor and then promptly vanished in the same timeframe. Quietstorm said he thought volrin had moved to go to college. The truth is no one really knows what happened to volrin, but the one thing im sure of is that everyone that knew him knows he stopped playing this game around 2001 or 2002.
This kind of phenomenon isn't just just related to TdC, though. Ropa was 2003 jmoberg, i know anubis aliased in NBR after he left the clan, I think as pure? Anus could probably tell you. I know we had a fake pure. People liked to be shadymilkman and oijogja as well.
I think it is good Anubis joined tap. I'm pretty sure he could entertain us for paragraphs and paragraphs about every player he aliased on worms. ;D
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Btw, I never quite understood it, what's the appeal of aliasing someone? Do people get boners over it or sth? This phenomenon on such scale is exclusive to worms.
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Aliasing has never been cool. The same people who have alias'd people in the past are usually the same people who cheat in leagues use xspeed etc. I think they are douche bags.
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Your a bunch of big jessies, really...
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Your a bunch of big jessies, really...
::)
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lol komo never misses an opportunity to mention how great he thought he was.
he never won no roping award :(
Btw, I never quite understood it, what's the appeal of aliasing someone? Do people get boners over it or sth? This phenomenon on such scale is exclusive to worms.
It's not exclusive to worms. It has to do with the size and style of the community that allows impersonating to succeed in such scale.
I never met anyone who did it for sexual reasons. I assume most people do it like they're trolling. Back then? Well... escaping boredom, surpassing bans, joining impossible clans, being in two clans at the same time and last but not least, to prove a point.
edit: oh yeah, I joined tdc once
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Actually I was voted best @ warming on WWP 2001 or 2002 in plutonics awards, there were some very good ropers there at the time as well & I was voted in top 10 few times as well for WA early on.
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komo... no1 remembers you being the best but you...
do you see the problem here??
people remember you as a warmer, and one worth a quick mention... but there is not one single person on worms that will add your name in the list you mentioned... lol.. just face the truth komo, your world will be a better place.
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why do you have to ruin our fun crazy?? jeez
seems like everyone is out to spoil a good time on these forums :DD
ok komo... your the best :(
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Haha, it was just so funny what you wrote in that post above, right before I was about to upload that picture. Made me laugh :D I just think that for once, Komo actually deserved to point out his fingers at you. Ropa's quoting "he never won no roping award", and actually beeing able to point out that it's a false statement, is satisfying.
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At my peak i'd say I was amongst the top 10-20 warmers of all time, doesn't really bother me what anyone thinks, I was just happy to be part of the scene and play with the best players and generally piss myself laughing almost everygame with them, and screaming in anger too...
I honestly can't remember what WA place I got voted one of the top 10 warmers, I think I was like 7th or 8th or something, dunno... Either way I know for sure I could keep up with the very best, but like alot of awards these days on TuS, alot of it was based on who is liked most, regardless of how good they are statistically.
Crazy, thanks for the PM, and thanks for looking that out haha, Plutonic was indeed a great BnG player back then ! Maybe you could help me search?
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llololol ok komo deserved this !!!
komo, you may have won the battle, but i will win the war!! muahuhauah
jk...
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If anyone ever invents a time machine, the 1st thing I will do is prove I WAS one of the great Warmers, then revisit some experimental sex :D
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Best roper sounds alot better then top-10 Komo, I think we'll leave it with that ;P Also worth to mention that another TUS'er won a Plutonics award from that same table: HHC and Kevrpgfan fronted as the most creative wormers of 2001.
Experimental sex as in with the opposite sex? ???
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Haha, you wish Crazy ;)
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i was thinking the same thing komo.....
what other experimental sex is there?? lol
komo its ok, we are excepting of gays here at worms.. we all love crazy, peja, and ropa
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Haha, it was just so funny what you wrote in that post above, right before I was about to upload that picture. Made me laugh :D I just think that for once, Komo actually deserved to point out his fingers at you. Ropa's quoting "he never won no roping award", and actually beeing able to point out that it's a false statement, is satisfying.
Well, it's like comparing Bob Sagat to Penelope Cruz because an Oscar and a local high school prize for drama are both acting recognitions.
You're right for correcting me though, but in a practical context, Komodo never won no relevant roping award.
I'm not having a go at my friend, don't get me wrong. Komodo was one of the outstanding warmers and most complete ropers for a long period and specially notable at his peak. But he needs to be told that no one puts him next to those names he put up.
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You are entitled to your opinion ropa, you & avi seem to be the only ones in denial here, I guess shadymilkman too, but then again, you 3 didn't even see me rope at my best, so no surprise.
I never even knew avirex existed back then, I always saw you as a roper and not a warmer type guy, personally speaking I can't remember doing many warmers with you, I only recall playing with you when we were both in BDD together and you were leadermagikarp, and I was nothing compared to how good I got then, but your Pro Roper skill was inspiring at least.
Same goes for shady, hardly played with him either, but I know for a fact I could rope as fast as smooth and for as long as any of these top players, doing all the ridiculous kicks, pumps, tricks...
I even helped inspire Anubis to become "the fastest" and he will admit that... Anubis didn't even see me at my best, I met him like a year or something past my best, and this is due to breaking my keyboard which was perfect for the way I roped, I never ever found one to replace it so I lost interest because I couldn't do what I used to be able to do.
For me, there was no single greatest player ever, if there was imo it would be Anubis but I am skeptical about that because I don't believe anyone who uses mods/macros as being the greatest.
If you guys don't think I was at their level, fine, but hundreds of players I warmed with back then thought I was, and it's the fun I had that matters most.
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not a warmer type guy
stopped reading sorry
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No you didn't.
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true, but your memory is a total mess.
BDD, not even know what it stands for.
Shady, Anubis, avirex, no one saw you at your peak, how rare. I have a theory though, remember WL? When Volcom was beating people in league ropers, when Volrin and Jmo were still warming it up, the NBR crew was at its best and TEA with masterguy and co were starting to invent pro rope racing. The peak of roping if you ask me. You missed all that, banned from WL and no where to be seen, that's why no one alive has seen you at your peak.
Because your peak is when? Early WWP days? WACL era? I know you were in ToP in the latter WL days, but you were but a mere secondary asset and no where to be seen amongst the best ropers talk. You weren't even half active, Please specify because unlike yours, my memory is pretty clear and I'm dying to hear further information so I can solve this mysterious puzzle.
You were an outstanding roper but pretty much like always, your mind is in a hyperbole rollercoaster and your dumb enough to be driver seat.
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Bringers of Death and Destruction, we actually done quite good, we beat some top clans a number of times !
I find it strange you don't remember, because few years back when I was in cFc and we were playing a BnG funner you going on about how you were gonna own me with your Golden Grenades lol, I actually need to search this game, I recall talking about how we met, I couldn't remember your 1st name which you then told me and we talked about BDD quickly, other members included DodgeFreak, Avatar, unfortunately I can't even remember any other members... That sucks...
I can't even remember getting banned from WL, I can't even remember playing WL... What did I get banned for lol? I remember getting banned from FB for pretty much the same reason everyone else did but I can't remember being banned from WL...
I never saw you or avi or shady rope at your peak either, whoop dee doo lol, this whole arguement is based on opinion anyway, alot of people thought I was a top player, it might not matter to you but it matters to me.
And yeah, good idea to split, but keep my 1st post lol about that guys roping with statik.
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split topic pls
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Plutonic was also a member of BDD Komo.
Shady, Anubis, avirex, no one saw you at your peak, how rare. I have a theory though, remember WL? When Volcom was beating people in league ropers, when Volrin and Jmo were still warming it up, the NBR crew was at its best and TEA with masterguy and co were starting to invent pro rope racing. The peak of roping if you ask me. You missed all that, banned from WL and no where to be seen, that's why no one alive has seen you at your peak.
It's a bit weird that Komodo was voted as the best roper at WCC during the timeperiod of WL, Ropa. When you're talking about Volrin, Jmoberg, NBR and so on, what year are you referring to? You say the award is not relevant, but still, it's an award which provides facts. If the award is irrelevant, is/was Plutonic irrelevant as well? I was 11 years old when I was playing WL, from my own memory I can remember that Volcom was considered as one of the best ropers, if not the best, while I don't remember Komodo at all. That's just my personal experience.
Could you also define what you mean by pro rope racing Ropa? I'm interested in what you mean and your knowledge of it.
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I was 11 years old when I was playing WL, from my own memory I can remember that Volcom was considered as one of the best ropers, if not the best, while I don't remember Komodo at all. That's just my personal experience.
For about a year, I played more with Komo than anyone else, and we never played anything but warmers, hours and hours into the night. The best warmers on WA you had to actually play with to realize how good they were. In the early days of WA there were so many people online and the league communities were less centralized than they are now.
As it is today, any player who is remotely skilled ends up signing up here and is known on wormnet. Many less known players that everyone has forgotten because they didn't sign up for leagues but were great like chinook, wormwood, banzaiii, ect because they weren't a part of leagues or one of the big clans. In fact, Komo was in sfx for a long, long, time but I can't remember him playing too many clanners for them.
IMO, Komo was one of the great warmers, and I basically played with them all because that was the only gametype I played back then besides battlerace. Volcom earned his reputation, and rightly so, because he was on top of a league where the variety of schemes was vastly limited. You could be good at just roper, and pretty much go all the way to the top. And volcom never f@#!ing fell in roper, much to my dismay.
Komo may make many outrageous and blatantly erroneous claims, but him being one of the top warmers was not one of them.
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I was thinking about this one, why its hard for some people to quantify how good people were. That community was so large, some people that played a lot you never ran into. For instance, I can't say I played with avirex more than 4-5 times from 2000-2004. I only started playing with HHC well after WL was dead and gone, same goes for mablak, im pretty sure cl2k had folded before I started playing with him. My point is, when I was active like a year ago, it was hard to run into someone that was good at roping that wasn't registered or known on tus. That wasn't the case back when.
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Thank you Wally :)
We literally played for at least 4-5 hours at a time, quite a number of 8+ hour warmers & I think we even played close to 24 hours a few times... Joined by TheFudo as well !
I remember coming home from school on a Friday like, f@#!ing running home straight onto the PC, met up with you and that would be us for like 8 hours at least lol...
Monday nights were great too cuz my parents were at the local club for the Darts and i'd get sooooo f@#!ing stoned and warmed :)
I really do miss it :(
And personally speaking, you are on my list of great Warmers... Not alot of people seen what you could do, but I was one of them.
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Plutonic was also a member of BDD Komo.
Oh yeah ! I feel awful for not even being able to remember who was in :( How did you know that? Got some old webpage?
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i once played a Warmer for 4 and a half consecutive days, without a single lagout, bathroom break, or sleep... i often think of those one hundred and eight hours to be the peak of my roping, and everyone in that host considered me the best. sadly this Warmer took place exactly one day before saved replays wete available.
impo: i was expecting a much better meme out of you, that was very disappointing.
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I was expecting someone posting old replays to watch, but all I see was the same bunch of guys always ruining topics with their dinossaur's era talking shit discussion, we are tired of you!
Who is "we"? And when did your opinion suddenly become relevant? "We" have told you we are tired of you, but yet you persist with your diva antics like "leaving worms forever" for one week. Keep trying to garner attention, though, and better luck next time.
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It's a bit weird that Komodo was voted as the best roper at WCC during the timeperiod of WL, Ropa. When you're talking about Volrin, Jmoberg, NBR and so on, what year are you referring to? You say the award is not relevant, but still, it's an award which provides facts. If the award is irrelevant, is/was Plutonic irrelevant as well? I was 11 years old when I was playing WL, from my own memory I can remember that Volcom was considered as one of the best ropers, if not the best, while I don't remember Komodo at all. That's just my personal experience.
Thing is, Komodo wasn't even playing WA in the peak WL years. Komodo was basically like he is right now, but back then, the community didn't have the stomach to digest hyper hyperboles, so he basically was in the situation Toxic is now, except it was the whole community vs Komo. He made a huge i quit post and got banned.
Don't say you don't remember when it was basically the whole forum making fun of your 10000 word essays typed in street slang no one could understand. I remember specific details, you loved "teh", instead of "the".
Wouldn't be surprised if your head erased that memory of yours, it someone does that as a defense mechanism.
That's where I assume he ran to WWP. But this was all before HHC forced half of WA to move over to WWP so there was basically nothing. Pluto was totally irrelevant, he was just starting worms.
It's like the later BTP awards. Skill wise, they mean nothing.
Could you also define what you mean by pro rope racing Ropa? I'm interested in what you mean and your knowledge of it.
There was a time where ropers didn't RR. Where warmers didn't rope and where RRs were a noob rope gimmick.
It didn't change all of a sudden just because.
And could the attention seeking hypocrites stop complaining about off topic whilst posting spam themselves?
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And could the attention seeking hypocrites stop complaining about off topic whilst posting spam themselves?
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Sorry about quoting a post and then posting it in a reply.....I was trying desperately to draw attention to my opinion and express how forthright I am like dub and spw. It's awesome how the people with the least to add are the most riteous.
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Ropa, you are seriously just making stuff up now lol, ah no worries, everyone dies eventually :)
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Ropa, you are seriously just making stuff up now lol, ah no worries, everyone dies eventually :)
go ask HHC if he banned you or not. Or about your legendary 10000 word illegible essays. Basically like now, except using internet slang of the time which made it unreadable.
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Komo was deffo TOP10.
Me and KRD were also on BDD.
Not sure but maybe TheDogg also.
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Omg Freeman2 how could I forget about you... I am so sorry...
I can't remember KRD being in BDD, but cool !
Yeah I had a feeling Dogg was in BDD too...
I have the old website on a disc but I dunno where disc is... Pfft...
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Nonono.
Doggy, Free and me were in WWB together, which was in a way BDD's sister clan, the members hung out together all the time. But Janu was actually in BDD before he joined us, so in a sense we poached him! But it was okay because sister clans. :D
Thinking back, we should have merged and renamed to WWBDD... ahh, hindsight.
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ok, there is 3 conflicting stories... none of these confessions are credible in the court of law..
komo sucks again!!! ;DDDDD jk
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I just nostalgia'd hard. Realy weird.
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Kinda like t17 forums going down now. Seeing bloopy and plutonic here ;D
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Hey HHC! I'm only here because KRD posted me the link, nothing to do with T17 forums going down. Really wish I had more time to play again. :-(
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got time for a forum - got time to play ;O
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There are far too many points to touch upon, but there really is no way to quantify who was the best at this or that... like people have mentioned already, there were FAR more players back then, not to mention this was well before TUS was basically the only relevant Worms-related site. I see that Avi is still being Avi, and will probably always continue to be the same troll with an inflated sense of skill and worth.
Furthermore, what I do not understand is why so many people who don't even really play this game anymore spend so much time chatting it up in the forums. You have time to get into thread debates, but not play? ffs...
This catty behavior is precisely why I don't get involved with TUS, or play leagues, or even really do clanners aside from the once-in-a-blue-moon match anymore. W:A was a lot more fun 'back in the day' when people played for fun, made friends, and attempted to show off their skills rather than to rack up a record that ultimately doesn't mean anything at all except to the relative handful of people who give a crap. A lot of better players these days basically don't even play matches unless it's for a league of some sort. I've come and gone from W:A many times and just came back again recently after a long break and it seems like every time I come back, the community is more ridiculous, self-righteous, and and troll-like.
I personally wish that TUS was a community only rather than a league system because it would force people to get back to the roots of what made W:A great in the earlier years. This whole thread perfectly encapsulates why I and many other old school players are reluctant to be a part of the "community" anymore. Ya'll sound like a bunch of old women.
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I played with volrin from 2004-2005 and it was not an alias i have never seen anyone rope like that it wasnt the speed but the technique and the style that i have not seen anyone match in rr.. We teamspeaked alot his name is jeremy and was messenger name flizors.. Me him stormy and raze would always be playin tohether but one day we all just kinda drifted away.. And i havent been able to contact him since.. I brought raze back for a few days.. But he didnt last long.. Sadly..
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Heh. I am among them. =D
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Amazing post skunk3.
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Omg Freeman2 how could I forget about you... I am so sorry...
I can't remember KRD being in BDD, but cool !
Yeah I had a feeling Dogg was in BDD too...
I have the old website on a disc but I dunno where disc is... Pfft...
I think I had the site up here, but it got lost again for me. Can't you remember the link?
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anubis is the most skilled roper I ever saw, very nice scrolls and technique, better than Mablak
but im the best roper in wa history
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Crazy, it was geocities, that's all I remember :(
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Kaleu, you look good with nuts on your chin
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Do you guys remember MrE ?
Am not sure if it wasnt alias, but i played few days ago with one guy who from speach and roping looked like MrE..
Check out replay.
Too bad then i had to go, i could play longer with him and see more hes roping.
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Well, I spoke with him some weeks ago. Seemed to me to be the real deal.
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Do you guys remember MrE ?
Am not sure if it wasnt alias, but i played few days ago with one guy who from speach and roping looked like MrE..
Check out replay.
Too bad then i had to go, i could play longer with him and see more hes roping.
I have played with him too some days ago, he's him :)
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Or was it his boy/girlfriend mse?
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If your computer got hacked shortly after you played with him, than yes, it is MrE for sure lol. Send MrE over this way or just tell him wally said hi. I miss that guy haha
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i played several games with him couple weeks ago, its 90% sure him...
there is only one person that has his style, and thats anubis... anubis said it was not him.. so has to be MrE.
also, i asked him many questions, he knew them all.. had to be him.
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There are far too many points to touch upon, but there really is no way to quantify who was the best at this or that... like people have mentioned already, there were FAR more players back then, not to mention this was well before TUS was basically the only relevant Worms-related site. I see that Avi is still being Avi, and will probably always continue to be the same troll with an inflated sense of skill and worth.
Furthermore, what I do not understand is why so many people who don't even really play this game anymore spend so much time chatting it up in the forums. You have time to get into thread debates, but not play? ffs...
This catty behavior is precisely why I don't get involved with TUS, or play leagues, or even really do clanners aside from the once-in-a-blue-moon match anymore. W:A was a lot more fun 'back in the day' when people played for fun, made friends, and attempted to show off their skills rather than to rack up a record that ultimately doesn't mean anything at all except to the relative handful of people who give a crap. A lot of better players these days basically don't even play matches unless it's for a league of some sort. I've come and gone from W:A many times and just came back again recently after a long break and it seems like every time I come back, the community is more ridiculous, self-righteous, and and troll-like.
I personally wish that TUS was a community only rather than a league system because it would force people to get back to the roots of what made W:A great in the earlier years. This whole thread perfectly encapsulates why I and many other old school players are reluctant to be a part of the "community" anymore. Ya'll sound like a bunch of old women.
HI VINNIE
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i played several games with him couple weeks ago, its 90% sure him...
there is only one person that has his style, and thats anubis... anubis said it was not him.. so has to be MrE.
also, i asked him many questions, he knew them all.. had to be him.
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your talking about 2 different people you jackass...
this roping, aliasing, hacking mre was not from w2, and you go ahead and tell me about 90% of people that can rope like MrE? i only knew anubis... im not saying anything about if it is cheating or not, calm down cowboy.
on another note: waste from w2 has been on w:a lately... its really him, asked him some questions, remember him? he got w:a from steam! pretty cool id say! ! alot of old schoolers latley been coming from steam.
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you forgot about me!
i was very active in the early 2000's and I've been back now for 2 days, by the looks of it, roping is almost a dead horse.
i was in nbr when it was at its peak. but i settled in wwa at the end.
i must say, whoever created the worms wiki of people did an amazing job. there was a player called gbman that was in nbr too. :D
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Not sure if that was the Mre who's been playing as MrE with the UK flag but that isn't the real Mre.
He's a old mate of mine and I have the real Mre on skype, he's been playing as Demon`Ih. heres a replay of the real mre ;)
I've questioned the UK flagged Mre about some old history of ours and he didn't even know the real Mre's name lol.
Don't be fooled by this shitty faker!
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Not sure if that was the Mre who's been playing as MrE with the UK flag but that isn't the real Mre.
He's a old mate of mine and I have the real Mre on skype, he's been playing as Demon`Ih. heres a replay of the real mre ;)
I've questioned the UK flagged Mre about some old history of ours and he didn't even know the real Mre's name lol.
Don't be fooled by that shitty faker!
I'm sure most of you can figure out who Induce is too ;p
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i questioned him too... i believed it was the real MrE... the "hacking mre" atleast...
but who knows.
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I clanned with the real MrE for years and that UK guy didn't even know the name of one of them,
Demon the real MrE remembered more of them than I did and verified alot of details about when we used to play together.
Barman also has verified that Demon is the real mre
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Barman also has verified that Demon is the real mre
I played with him a few weeks ago; all I did was ask him if he was MrE, he replied yes ;P
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Barman also has verified that Demon is the real mre
I played with him a few weeks ago; all I did was ask him if he was MrE, he replied yes ;P
and noted his skill im sure, lol there is no mistaking that style.. and the over barman speed taps ;)
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i have not seen this deamon guy.. but i have seen the "MrE" that pops into AG sometimes...
and he ropes very well, with a style that i have not seen duplicated (despite what dubc was ranting about)
but i duunno... its not like mre comes to AG often, or has come to the forums or anything... if it is someone faking him.. they are doing a good job duplicating his roping, and have no interest in anything else.. just quick ttrrs every once in a while.
but i think there are 2 different Mre's tbh.. or maybe even more... i think thats what alot of confusion is about, there was a Mre a long time ago, a very nice guy, friendly guy, and good roper... then he went inactive... couple years later, comes a MrE who owns ttrr, has a imaginary girlfriend names MsE who was pretty decent at ttrr, and starts hacking various people, and leagues. then according to dub, there was a mre on w2... are they all the same guy?? who rly knows.
one thing for sure, whoever he is, or isnt... he is indeed, a "Mre" (Mister-E) ((Mystery)) :DD
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but i think there are 2 different Mre's tbh.. or maybe even more... i think thats what alot of confusion is about, there was a Mre a long time ago, a very nice guy, friendly guy, and good roper... then he went inactive... couple years later, comes a MrE who owns ttrr, has a imaginary girlfriend names MsE who was pretty decent at ttrr, and starts hacking various people, and leagues. then according to dub, there was a mre on w2... are they all the same guy?? who rly knows.
The Mre I talked about playing on w2 wasn't from w2. He was the nice guy, good roping Mre from w:a before he went inactive and came back with a different style and hacking motherf@#!ers. He went from begging me to join gay ass alias clans to not knowing who I was.