The Ultimate Site of Worms Armageddon
Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: TheKomodo on January 12, 2011, 08:15 AM
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Let us hear what everyone thinks and feels about how WA has progressed over the years, and please, don't be shy :)
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I miss w2 :'(
Edit: oh w:a in its prime, I miss the days when no matter what when I joined RH there was a warmer already hosted by someone worthy of roping with.
Prime? Not yet. Once TRL starts w:a will be in its PRIME!
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Before June 2000 when Team 17 f@#!ed up WormNet.
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No long post, i'm disapointed
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w:a is dead.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2gwdveb.gif)
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http://worms2d.info/User:KoreanRedDragon/Is_WA_in_Its_Prime
Live and learn.
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Live and learn?
I had a 2-3 hour debate with KRD after I read that a few weeks ago, I already know about everything he wrote there, I told him I had taken all that into account, I was shocked to realise he thought I didn't :O *shame on you KRD !*
In the end I guess it comes down to what you personally feel "prime" means, because by the looks of it, KRD and alot of others keep talking about things they miss, and how things don't live up to THEIR expectations, but, it's their life, their feelings, they can think what they want and i'll respect it.
Everything he said is respectable, and very very well written, but I still disagree with alot of it, especially his parts on "Comparison of Players" "Clans You Shouldn't Forget About" and the whole "Where Have All the Schemes Gone" section.
The comparison of players, KRD talks about achievements and doing things for the community, some people don't care about that, this is a game, people should have the right to play it however they want, for fun and have their own opinions and do what they want with it, it's their life, some people are impressed with others skill, some people are impressed by others intellect, some people are impressed by just having a good laugh, some people find one skill better or worse than another and someone else might think the opposite.
Clans you shouldn't forget about, KRD says "off the top of my head" while I honestly think he actually done research on this part among other parts, whether he did or didn't is irrelevant as I feel every single clan that ever existed has played an important part of the community, even alias clans and alias players raised massive controversy and shock while at the same time kept the public entertained because everyone loves a bit of drama lol.
Where have all the schemes gone, KRD asks the question: "but why is everyone forgetting about so many of the things that were lost in the process?"
Again, the community can answer this question for themselves, as they are the ones playing everything, when it comes to the schemes that are played, I don't even think this is all that important, everyone is entitled to play what they want, however they want, and if someone has a problem with others not knowing the history behind those schemes, then they should do something about it, I know alot of history about alot of schemes, and I am proud of that, and hope I never disrespect it as long as I play this game, but, it isn't fair to judge the new generation of WA players because they weren't around at the times everything was evolving, let them do their own thing, let them think they are inventing new things, let them discover it all for themselves.
Part of the excitement of WA is discovering and inventing things for yourself, why should we feel the need to ruin that for them because we deem it neccessary they must know it hasn't always been the way they thought it was? If they are curious, they will eventually ask and/or find out, but in the meantime, let them "grow up" themselves.
My opinion is based entirely on what I get out of the game myself and what I can give for others, b2b/a2b and cFc are the biggest reasons why WA is in it's prime for me.
"Back in the day", it was fun learning new schemes etc, but all I really done was mess around Roping stoned trying to act cool to impress people(alot of us did lol), I had the entertainment and comedy value, although I got involved with alot and kept up to date with everything that was happening, I didn't take part in alot of it, nowadays, I am more involved with doing things for other people, passing on my BnG knowledge and I honestly feel I have played a massive part in keeping BnG popular, hosting Tournaments and other events, running a league and making WA videos lol, I never done any those things before in the past, and it just feels much more intense and enjoyable to me being part of this community today and giving something back in return, it's more forfilling now than it was before, for me personally.
After writing all this, got me thinking about certain people (who I haven't mentioned) and certain moments, and i'd actually say, I have always enjoyed WA, never once have I disliked the game as a whole, everything has always been good, but I definately think things have gradually got better for myself and the way I see others.
As for KRD saying about me "for disrespecting a bunch of interest groups and for using barely any quantifiable evidence, detailed explanations or examples to support his claims. "
I used enough evidence to support MY feelings towards this game, I gave enough explanation AND examples to support MY claims about how I feel about WA today, especially towards the things that were actually being debated in the thread at the time (which wasn't alot to be honest, nowhere near the ridiculous depth he went into, and you say I make long posts? LOL), I never disrespected anyone, If I did sorry, but I didn't intend to, I had a good clean and open debate with flex and I have always tried my best to understand other peoples opinions and even if I disagree with them, i'd respect them, but by the looks of it, KRD just blatently ignored and disrespected my opinions about this game even though he knows I understand everything he replied with.
What can you do if it ain't your cup of tea lol?
I have a funny feeling, that if I hadn't changed from exclusively playing Warmers/Ropers to exclusively playing BnGs around 5-6 years ago, I would be SO bored with this game by now and would share the same opinion as KRD, 100%, which is a horrible thing to say...
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My opinion is based entirely on what I get out of the game myself and what I can give for others, b2b/a2b and cFc are the biggest reasons why WA is in it's prime for me.
I have a funny feeling, that if I hadn't changed from exclusively playing Warmers/Ropers to exclusively playing BnGs around 5-6 years ago, I would be SO bored with this game by now and would share the same opinion as KRD, 100%, which is a horrible thing to say...
That's what I expected, you see w:a only through the prism of bng. I respect that but I wasted my time arguing with you, whatever ::)
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I said they are the biggest reasons why WA is in it's prime for me.
What I mean is, I switched to BnG, a different scheme that kept me excited, because all my roper mates left, I made alot of BnG mates, so I had people to play with at things I enjoy, you know, socialize with the things you like... (I guess I shoulda added this lol).
I don't see WA ONLY through BnG, it's what I enjoy doing the most.
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Of course I know bng is a whole thing for you, and that's what I meant. But in our previous discussions I was talking about w:a as a whole, bng is obviously just a part of it.
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Of course I know bng is a whole thing for you, and that's what I meant. But in our previous discussions I was talking about w:a as a whole, bng is obviously just a part of it.
Yeah but, I was into rope just as much as anyone "back then" and now I am BnG orientated.
I do play all schemes now, T17 is probably what I play the least of.
But it isn't just schemes that make it for me, if no one else played BnG, what would I do? Lol, it's also the people I am friends with now, like, I started playing WA when I was 13, I am 25 now, my personality has changed and so has my friends online, when I was young I didn't really take anything serious most of my "mates" were just people I played with, and was just joking around, but now I have deeper more meaningful conversations, and I enjoy THAT alot more than "y0 y0 y0 wassup n@#!!!z, rdy 2 pwn??" "lag" "lag" "ah space!" etc although I say "pwoer" alot in BnG, I enjoy having "grown-up" conversations and mature friendly insults with my mates, I guess that's a big part of it for me too.
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y0 y0 y0
gl
hf
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Lol flex, EVERYONE remembers that, everytime an oldschool player comes on they ask me "what happened to y0 y0 y0 gl hf? that was like your thing!" xD
To be honest, what the hell is the point in even having this debate lol, theres like, not even 10 people actually taking part in it...
No one cares :(
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I do care, I just don't have the time to keep up with all these topics considering that I have to read all the ZiPpO comments and valulable chatbox posts before coming here. I guess you understand why that's the priority. :) I will soon read this and edit this post and you can have my answer, I will share my deepest feelings and thoughts with you, part of me will be inside you as you read on and on and then that part will just start growing inside you, you will start thinking about me...
Okay, I stop before it gets way too sick. ;D
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For me the debate is over, I said all I had to say (duh), same feeling as when a job is done lol. And if I ever get involved in it again I'll just give the link to KRD's text. Ty KRD :>
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When I was a little boy, my dad used to take me to this beach. Fishermen had put big rocks from beach way into the sea, so that they go further/deeper in the sea for fishing. I used to swim next to rocks. The sun was hitting the water making everything so bright and beautiful. I used to swim in the water and open my eyes to see what's in the water. There were plants, little crabs near the rocks, fishes swimming around. Boy you had to see it. I even caught 3 fishes by my bare hands.
Well years later, I went to that beach again, trying to feel the familiar beauty again. Every object on that beach were in its same place. But not only I didn't feel that beauty, I felt depressed thinking it's all gone ...
Back on W:A, I see many oldschools moaning about the past. About the experience they had back in 10 years ago and how perfect everything was. I think you know where I'm going with this. So I stop here.
Personally I don't think W:A has changed in any bad way. It has changed for sure. But it is just the same as life. The life style we know today is different from 20 years ago. It changed to the way it is now because it was needed. Because there was a need which forced it to change to suit our needs.
Today's W:A doesn't want to experience the "2003 W:A". Today's W:A needed Hysteria, Kaos ...
Having said that, EVEN if all your arguments about past were true, this kind of thinking are not creative. Let's say everything with today's W:A is wrong. Well your way of thinking is not helping at all. Oldschool mean to have been here for long and having enough experience. Every community needs its oldschools experience to move forward. What good is a moaning oldschool? To tell us we're going down?
Maybe it would work if we could gather all members of W:A and we all mourn together for several hours? Why would we even waste our time thinking about how good past was?
I've seek many of oldchools that I could contact for their advice. Some of them helped me, some ignored and some rejected me.
@KRD, I'm not against oldschools. You once used this against TUS that I'm not open to oldschools. I'm against every behavior that encourages mourning about the past instead of moving forward.
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I think that ANYONE who plays a game for 10 years+ will look back and miss the old days. It's a natural life-cycle.
You start playing, first few years getting adapted, learning the ropes and maturing as a player, then you hit your prime, when you're super active, having super fun with all your super mates which you were totally motivated to go out and find, you are really psyched about everything and everything is great :).....then months pass and INEVITABLY people will move on and do other stuff with their lives, these people and the times you spent together will become fond memories.
It's like everyone has a similar story to tell about their experiences of worms, yet we all started at different times. I am relatively new-school compared to others here yet I too miss the old days and the people I knew, the games I used to play.
The game naturally evolves and schemes will come in and out of popularity, players will come and go; the most important factor in all this is our own life-cycle. From newb, to learner, to semi-pro, to pro, then finally becoming a critic.
Nothing can replace the old days when we journeyed through the world of discovery which is worms and wormnet.
It's perfectly natural to be 10 years into this process and feel that nothing can compare to the old days.
*edit* - Kinda what you said MI. But I didn't read your post before writing mine. Great minds and all that :P
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I dont really remember what year i started to play it, i think it was 2002 or 2003, ye it was really fun to spend all day playing it when i didnot have a sooo busy life like nowadays, i miss so many things of old times, nowadays i dont even workout anymore cos no time, dont play WA so often cos no time, but it doesnot make things worst, thats how life works and we just must accept this.
There were so good times before ye, but while iam alive ill keep playing this game lol, will be fun when peoples ask "how long u play this game?" 43 years. u? xDDDD
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Not that I care very much, but MonkeyIsland has posted the only thing worth reading in this thread. I read it all, but I wish I'd just read MonkeyIsland's post. It's not because of his points. It's because of the beauty of the first section. Thanks for that imagery, MonkeyIsland. :)
This is similar to atheist/religious arguments. I'd prefer to just stay agnostic because the whole debate is pointless.
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Missing poll option: No - I think W:A's prime time is yet to come :P
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Missing poll option: No - I think W:A's prime time is yet to come :P
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Whoa, a lot of things have been said here. Impossible to separate any sides though, as I think - like it was mentioned - every single person experiences this game and it's community, the time spent with them differently from different aspects, thus having different expectations that the game and it's community has to live up for - which is obviously impossible.
Let me give you my opinion, my experience, how I have lived these days spent with this game. I started playing in 2007, for the simple reason that we first got internet connection then. I was eager to try all my old games in multiplayer, because I could never imagine how it would be to play against other people in the galaxy. :) I remember I inserted disc after disc and slowly found out that people on the internet who played those games were all dicks. They called me things like "noob" which I didn't know what it meant, I was being kicked, laughed at...
Then, somehow, I stumbled upon the old, weary, dusty disc of WWP so I thought I'd give it a try. And things were different. I joined a game (I believe it was a WxW) and after my very strategic and well-thought-out first bazooka hit, the guy said: "oh, you don't know the rules!". And that's where the difference came in related to other games. I wasn't kicked. He didn't leave the game. There wasn't even namecalling. He asked me if I spoke English so he could start explaining. That is the reason I sticked with this game.
Soon after, at the beginning of 2008 I switched to WA and it was really different, my first game I played was a Big BnA, which was way beyond my imagination that was built on WWP. But people were still nice, friendly, helpful.
Bringing back the time when one has the excitement of exploring a new game is impossible. To people like KRD, you can't show much new and as new generations come to WormNET, I don't think KRD will enjoy playing with them. Yes, I'm talking about the newbies, no insult intented, they are simply too young. :) It's a natural thing, new faces show up, although it has been very radical in the past 6 months I think, this is only a guess, but I think some company sells the game in Brazilia now, lot of new players from there. I wonder if MI could check the amount of new people registering in the 6 months and compare them to the previous ones... something like that would be good, piecharts make you look smart you know... 8)
Now for a few things mentioned.
First of all, I read KRD's article and I have to say I somewhat share his feelings.
KRD said something about not seeing schemes hosted like TTRR and he also mentioned the lack of quality maps, although we have the technology. Good point. As for the TTRR example, I believe it's the same symptom as BnG - people can not play it! You don't enjoy doing something that you are simply unable to, right? Especially if there are countless of better possibilities, like Hysteria in this case. More fun for them.
Not to mention, in the old days, there was RRkit! There was HHC's tutorials (which still are up by the way, just barely visited I think and very outdated). The point is, there is no real step-by-step, "learntheschemein5minutes" tutorial on the internet! There is just none. There is TUS Schools, right? Still not released, even though it's basically working and that's a little critic to MI for not focusing on it.
Same that KRD mentioned with quality map making tutorials.
Personally I don't think W:A has changed in any bad way. It has changed for sure. But it is just the same as life. The life style we know today is different from 20 years ago. It changed to the way it is now because it was needed. Because there was a need which forced it to change to suit our needs.
Today's W:A doesn't want to experience the "2003 W:A". Today's W:A needed Hysteria, Kaos ...
I have to disagree with that. It's not what this game needed, I think there should have been a lot more focus on keeping the old traditions alive and nurturing the newcomers so they learn what the ways of this game, the older community is so that they can basically step in our footsteps. Of course, doing that besides assuring they have their room to jump into their creativity and create new schemes as well. Unfortunately, there were no enough enthusiastic people who shared this opinion, so this failed basically.
To finish, I don't only miss things - like the excitement of exploring the game, new friends, first clanner, first league game ( :-* Tower) - but in my personal view, there are a few things that are just wrong in today's community. The biggest example is the clan's that don't play clanners. And the meaningless communities. I could go on and on...
There are a lot of things on my mind, I even made some notes what I want to mention while reading... :D Anyway, these were my thoughts.
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I obviously do miss "the old days" on Worms like alot of other people, but at the same time, just be glad you were actually there at the time to enjoy it, and move on like most of us, this game, in a small way is similar to life, you only get what you make from it, put more effort into trying to enjoy it, and the more likely than less you will enjoy it.
Missing poll option: No - I think W:A's prime time is yet to come :P
Lol I never thought of this, good point :)
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bring back the old times ne1?
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A detail for the emo pandas : Stating there have been better times doesn't mean today is bad, just saying.
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A detail for the emo pandas : Stating there have been better times doesn't mean today is bad, just saying.
Lol mate, when it comes to THIS subject, we are ALL emo, it shows ;)
And we have a right to be :)
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Noone said today is bad, only that the old was better. ;)
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I didn't say that someone said it.
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Stop being such a wise-ass flex, it doesnt suit you
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I don't know what's up with you but you need your head examined ;D
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holy shit! what is with threads these days and their f@#!ing long ass posts?? for once in my life... tl;dr! LOL!
someone make a sparknotes for these threads please
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Theres nothing wrong with long posts, for people who don't like long posts, ignore them, some people do actually enjoy reading others thoughts and opinions, even if they disagree ;)
Especially with a subject like this, you can't say everything in 1 sentence lol.
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ive read krd's article about his view of WA's prime
and i got to say i agree with him in alot of ways
cl2k was the best time for me coz i felt part of the community as in here with the tus site, i barrely know anyone or anything, i get lost on the site most of the time
or dunno which topics i should raid
sites like cl2k has came and went
i can suck a few from my thumb; cl2k, WormsLeague(hhb's and ibb's), fb , and probably alot more after i quit
good to see krd has named the clans that were important for the community at its time
EiF, NBR, NnC, sfx, WwA, WWW, TEA
these were the ownage clans, good or not good they were all very known and liked by the community
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Sad thing is that you only mentioned 7 clans from the top of your head, and despite the fact that currently there are more than a hundred clans registered on this site, there is barely more than 10 actively taking part in the clanner league. :(
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im just saying
back in those days those were the better clans
i have no clue about the clans of these days
ive seen a few i remember from long time ago and tbh i could of named alot more like
t5x, x2x, SiX, ckc, mwc, tdc, nbr, and so on
but i was talking about the era where i played the most...
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I can't believe no one mentioned dt, dt was up there with HoS and TEA in terms of how well they played and all the things they covered, not to mention making history by actually convincing and recruiting Mablak, the 1st clan he ever joined !
But that's what I mean about opinions, to me KRD missed out ALOT of important things that to me would help support his arguement.
He wrote about things that HE felt, not things the whole community thought, he didn't even bother trying to mention anything much that's good about the present, even though theres alot he could have wrote, if he knew about it, but he was more involved back then so he knows more about the past than the present.
But still, it's better to have everyone saying the things they said so far, than for people to come on and say "WA has always sucked and always will" (and been serious), cuz we'd have to hang them for that !
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no one is stopping you to write YOUR point of view of what the prime of worms armagedon is...
and tbh, ive never heard of dt
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and tbh, ive never heard of dt
And I ain't ever heard of you, what's your point?
Anyway, KRD critisized me, i'll critisize him too.
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the point is
dont take every thing what people write straight up your butt,
seems like ure a person to take every single thing very personally and get emotionally unstable about things you disagree on...
this is a common problem with people that suffer being affected with other peoples personal freedom of speech to tell their OPINION...
emo exposed, imo
garbage man, clean this mess
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Lol Beast, I dunno if you know it, but me and KRD know each other very well, we disagree on things but we still get on great.
Thanks for the OTT psychological evaluation lol, but I always speak my mind and so does everyone else, people disagree about alot of things here on a daily basis, but we also get along and agree with each other also.
I replied to you with a similar thing you said to me, and all of a sudden i'm emo, such a hypocrit lol, chillout man, no ones pulling their hair out here no need for you to spit the dummy ;)
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it was pretty much what it seemed to me due the fact you couldnt get along with krd's point of view over this story line bout his personal ordeal of what Prime era actually was...
not believing dt wasnt mentioned even though there were hundreds of other clans that came and went like it a plague... yet it didnt seem to be linked to any importance which you totally disagreed on, yelling(typing) in mad words how you couldnt believe it wasnt listed...
whoop di doo imo ;)
youre also assuming that what he wrote was only his personal opinion yet you do claim he didnt write what the WHOLE community was thinking, meaning youre assuming what the whole community thought, which is totally wrong isnt it?
accusing him of telling his personal ordeal(not what the community thinks) yet youre talking in the name of the whole community yourself?
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ive read krd's article about his view of WA's prime
and i got to say i agree with him in alot of ways
cl2k was the best time for me coz i felt part of the community as in here with the tus site, i barrely know anyone or anything, i get lost on the site most of the time
or dunno which topics i should raid
Maybe if you took your time to get to know the new wormers, you would feel more comfortable here at the site. All your old mates won`t come back all of a sudden, so either stick around and get to know the people that ACTUALLY play this game, or move on ;P
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No, I expressed my opinion and explained why I have that opinion, I have defended some of KRD's points as well as fought them, and I do get along with KRD's point of view because I share the same experience with ALOT of things he mentioned, I just don't feel the past was the prime of WA, which is why I disagree with him so much there, it's like, I relate to ALOT of what he says, but in relation to the debate at hand, I have to disagree, if you get me?
If you knew as much about clans as you claim, damn right you would know about dt, dt was one of the most successful clans on Wnet, and definately the best of their era(for winning Leagues anyway), but when Deano quit playing WA the clan broke apart, that's part of the cycle and I take alot of pride for being part of that clan as do the other members, so yeah, i'm a little shocked he didn't mention dt, along with alot of other clans he didn't mention but I feel dt was the most important to me, and on a League Success scale, better than most of those clans at least, is that ok with you so called Mr. Freedom Of Speech?
I never said I speak for the whole community, and that's a far-fetched assumption with nothing to back it up, as obviously alot of people disagree with my opinions here, I agree with KRD and alot of other people that the past is something that can never be replaced, and i've gave some examples of why they can't be replaced and why they were so good, all I am saying is KRD seems obsessed about the past and appears unwilling to subject himself towards saying anything good about the present, or at least, that's what it looks like to me.
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ive read krd's article about his view of WA's prime
and i got to say i agree with him in alot of ways
cl2k was the best time for me coz i felt part of the community as in here with the tus site, i barrely know anyone or anything, i get lost on the site most of the time
or dunno which topics i should raid
Maybe if you took your time to get to know the new wormers, you would feel more comfortable here at the site. All your old mates won`t come back all of a sudden, so either stick around and get to know the people that ACTUALLY play this game, or move on ;P
Its not that bad lol, i come online to play a few warmers and rr's and thats about it...
and i do know a few players from the old days that are still here
No, I expressed my opinion and explained why I have that opinion, I have defended some of KRD's points as well as fought them, and I do get along with KRD's point of view because I share the same experience with ALOT of things he mentioned, I just don't feel the past was the prime of WA, which is why I disagree with him so much there, it's like, I relate to ALOT of what he says, but in relation to the debate at hand, I have to disagree, if you get me?
If you knew as much about clans as you claim, damn right you would know about dt, dt was one of the most successful clans on Wnet, and definately the best of their era, but when Deano quit playing WA the clan broke apart, that's part of the cycle and I take alot of pride for being part of that clan as do the other members, so yeah, i'm a little shocked he didn't mention dt, along with alot of other clans he didn't mention but I feel dt was the most important to me, and on a League Success scale, better than most of those clans at least, is that ok with you so called Mr. Freedom Of Speech?
I never said I speak for the whole community, and that's a far-fetched assumption with nothing to back it up, as obviously alot of people disagree with my opinions here, I agree with KRD and alot of other people that the past is something that can never be replaced, and i've gave some examples of why they can't be replaced and why they were so good, all I am saying is KRD seems obsessed about the past and appears unwilling to subject himself towards saying anything good about the present.
i gotto say i voted for the past, yet this tus site is far beyond the features cl2k WL or FB had to offer...
and ya i do know alot about the old clans back in 99-04 and no i have no clue about what dt is, youre assumption that it was one of the best at its era is probably exaggerated to the feelings you carry with it... probably overrated as it is....
He wrote about things that HE felt, not things the whole community thought, he didn't even bother trying to mention anything much that's good about the present, even though theres alot he could have wrote, if he knew about it, but he was more involved back then so he knows more about the past than the present.
qoute from you, which i read several times and it still doesnt change the fact youre saying what krd wrote isnt what the community thought, therefore ure assuming u know what the community thought...
thats a simpleton mindstate
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He wrote about things that HE felt, not things the whole community thought, he didn't even bother trying to mention anything much that's good about the present, even though theres alot he could have wrote, if he knew about it, but he was more involved back then so he knows more about the past than the present.
Ok, tell me where in that quote does it say I am assuming I know what the whole community thought? You can't, and i'll tell you why, because it doesn't. The only thing it shows is that I am addressing that KRD didn't cover EVERYONES thoughts, you should realise that, it's pretty basic English.
2nd, dt wasn't around 1999-2004, they were around after WACL and cl2k, hence why you don't know about them, there is no shame in that, in the era that dt played, ask people who are still around that played during that time and they should back me up that dt dominated.
As for TuS features, we both agree there *phew* lol.
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how do you know what krd wrote isnt what the community thought?
saying u supposed to know community thinks otherwise
or ure saying in general that krd's article is his personal view of point and not the community's thoughts in general
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It looks like Komo is speaking for the whole community, because frankly he's the only one caring here, others don't bother share their opinions.
I can't agree with KRD's point of view, can't find many positive aspects of the present there, which may have influence how newbies will see the game after reading his article. Text itself is wrote very well, it shows many facts that have been forgotten, but it looks single-tracked.
Crazy said something very important - once you come back you can't expect everything will be just like you remembered it. You practically start from the beginning which means you have to find new buddies, new motivations to stay around etc. You have to fit in the new world and find your place. It's pretty the same when you move from one place to another - you don't want to leave, you're sceptical about the situation and then two things might happen after you finally move - you adapt to the new envirovment quickly, because you're not moaning about the past and you know you have to move forward or you close yourself completly and become another moaning, ignorant person that is angry for everybody because people made his dream pop like a soap bubble but he can't see it's his ignorance made him think that. Ok, maybe some examples? Komo - he perfectly fits as a player that adapts to the new situation. He reactivated a2b, expanded b2b, joined cfc where he's having great fun and his living with the present. This is how every oldschooler should act - find his new place. As MI said - we don't need oldschoolers to say on every occasion how bad the game is now comparing to the old days. We hope that with their experience they can help next generations to have a better stay here.
Myself? I'm pretty new comparing to the others and never had really long break from worms but after wQw's dead I could move on and first join ckc and then ps (I'm not mentioning short periods in mm and trying to reactivate wQw).
Is the game in its prime? Depends. WA can be in its prime all the time for wormers that find any possitive aspects constantly. Newbies can't say much here and I think that's the reason why this topic is holded by only few people - TUS lack some major, oldschool heads or their will to participate in this debation. And obiviously some oldschoolers won't change no matter what.
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Soon some people will have to apologize for having played for a long time, ridiculous. :D
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No? Just open your mind because past won't come back?
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Crazy said something very important - once you come back you can't expect everything will be just like you remembered it. You practically start from the beginning which means you have to find new buddies, new motivations to stay around
Very true, all my old buddies are gone from the game, but, you meet new people an it starts to get fun again.
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No? Just open your mind because past won't come back?
You're trying to come out as a smartass but what you say is so flat, past won't come back ORLY :D
I didn't even talk about the subject with you and you're assuming I'm not open-minded, you're just proving my previous post champ :)
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Crazy said something very important - once you come back you can't expect everything will be just like you remembered it. You practically start from the beginning which means you have to find new buddies, new motivations to stay around
Very true, all my old buddies are gone from the game, but, you meet new people an it starts to get fun again.
Yea Johnny, like me RIGHT!?? RIGHT WE ARE BUDDIES?!?!?! HAHA HA!! WE ARE BUDDIES!!!! I MADE A FRIEND TODAY!!!!
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Crazy said something very important - once you come back you can't expect everything will be just like you remembered it. You practically start from the beginning which means you have to find new buddies, new motivations to stay around
Very true, all my old buddies are gone from the game, but, you meet new people an it starts to get fun again.
Yea Johnny, like me RIGHT!?? RIGHT WE ARE BUDDIES?!?!?! HAHA HA!! WE ARE BUDDIES!!!! I MADE A FRIEND TODAY!!!!
wtf? Are you trying to make fun of me?
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I didn't even talk about the subject with you and you're assuming I'm not open-minded
You said there have been better times. There will be forever for you then since you're not even trying to explore new things. Living with the past is absolutely something understandable for me.
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You said there have been better times. There will be forever for you then since you're not even trying to explore new things. Living with the past is absolutely something understandable for me.
How does it mean i'm not exploring new things? TUS is great, it is with no doubt the best league ever, the staff is doing their best. I played some TEL although I didn't care about elite before. I'm not living in the past at all, It's nice to see there is a new generation of good players and I like meeting new faces. I'll get along with anyone, noob not noob I don't care as long as I have fun.
Saying there ave been better times, doesn't mean there won't be better ones in the future :)
I have the right to just prefer some older eras without it being called moaning or a critic at today's community, no? And it's not an obsession, I only talked about it in the topics which it was the subject, duh! And to be honest, I don't consider myself oldschooler, I hate this word. I might have been a bit passionate about it at first in the other topic but now I don't care, I enjoy w:a as it is. If a few aspects like the playoffs were improved it would be perfect, but some like the activity we can't do anything.
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how do you know what krd wrote isnt what the community thought?
saying u supposed to know community thinks otherwise
I know because other people have shared their opinions and not everyone agreed with KRD and not everyone agreed with me, which should be blindingly obvious I do not assume to know what the whole community thinks.
or ure saying in general that krd's article is his personal view of point and not the community's thoughts in general
Exactly.
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how do you know what krd wrote isnt what the community thought?
saying u supposed to know community thinks otherwise
For the very first, "the community" bothered to give TUS a chance. Not easily, but they did.
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i understand, Alborz Shams Nosrati
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MI & Cue (about first posts of the thread), W:A didn't change in a bad way, but players did, which is the most important thing on W:A.
It's only about people (here and everywhere around the word, even out of W:A).
Bad behaving people were there back in the past, but they were around 10% maximum of the community, and good people were hunting them to protect what they liked.
Nowadays, it's the contrary, they are 90% and nobody makes the effort to push them out (special sigh toward MI, If only you could see the importance of doing a great moderation, instead of hopping for a great TuS future....).
As example: Many good players left Worms because of those bastards. I wish it could had been a different way, but it's all gone now..
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To be real honest, i have been back for several months now...
But havent met one cool person on wn, gg
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To be real honest, i have been back for several months now...
But havent met one cool person on wn, gg
LIES ! You were playing a warmer with KRD yesterday?
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y0 y0 y0
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hf
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Haha, I remember that too. Good to know you're alive, Flex! :)
I readed KRD's post, and I agree with most of it. I really miss the times when I wished I had more time to spend on this game. Nowadays, whenever I join AG, I quit right after 2 mins. Today Almog told me that maybe if I start playing TUS, I'd meet some new players and find it more interesting, but after reading what KRD said, doubt it'd change at all, haha.
Greetings to everyone, nice to see some old faces around here :D.
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Ownless, I think you would have a good laugh with me and lalo oldsock and daina doing clanners xD
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...maybe if I start playing TUS, I'd meet some new players and find it more interesting, but after reading what KRD said, doubt it'd change at all, haha.
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Doubt comes from hell, confusion is gift from a devil.
And don't U know that KRD sucks.?!
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At least some guy with long and always different nickname say so everyday in #worms channel.. :P