misconception ;)yah, i feel like some players have been forgotten too, low how dominant volcom became in a very short time. Prime t5x scared me.
I did, but IBB soon took over website design/coding. I was limited to keeping track of the standings, handling complaints and fighting with ropa on the forums :D
cos noob at code.
btw crazy, as much as it is brave and desirable, it's gonna be a disappointing experience too. I remember a lot of things, but it's all mixed up and I wouldn't be able to put a time-tag on it. It's unfortunately an illusion that we can get an anywhere near-complete overview of worms history.
Only thing we have is a few fragments of sites and countless stories without any real facts or figures.
first awards ever:oh god i remember that ropa, nice find. i wasnt even active on those forums but ive definitely seen that flash video. And tom is in the credits, haha.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603220150/http://www.wa-forum.com/wa.swf
the awards 3 of WACL (the one that was all blue flash with the boxes for clear display) was available a few years ago, but it seems that is down for good nowa lot of the flash awards things were hosted on lordelectro's worms center i think, might be able to wayback them...
I'd like to watch some replays of playoff finals in the old leagues (both songles and/or clanners). Can anyone help?lex or franz has some of these, bart. i forget which atm though.
Where did u find list for players who reached elite? think my name was XxPrOdiGyxX back when had elite rank. had to have x's in ure name back then :P was great to see all the names of past wormers i had forgotten. thanksslacker are you blazed brah?
lol if not prodigy might been spaz2000...stfu don judge me i was 13!!! hehe
There are several winning clans missing, some of which I have been a part of myself, amongst alot of my old friends who haven't been mentioned :(People mention me all the time, brah! Everyone knows teh walrus. :P
RoQQo aka Gonzho lol that dude was funny as hell, wonder where he gone
Also
What about getting some results for wwp? Plenty of leagues like cbc and season winners for clanners and singles!
I think TuS could create a new tab of 'community history' and all these accolades could be compiled into an awesome achieve of champions and season winners ;D
I'd be happy to help the research.. as many tournies as possible and everything could be found.
Also
What about getting some results for wwp? Plenty of leagues like cbc and season winners for clanners and singles!
I think TuS could create a new tab of 'community history' and all these accolades could be compiled into an awesome achieve of champions and season winners ;D
I'd be happy to help the research.. as many tournies as possible and everything could be found.
Good idea Pollo23
Although it's gonna be hard, try to get in touch with Nephalim. As you may remember, he was the owner of CBC.
His email used to be nephalim[at]hotmail[dot]com
CBClans was ruled by KTC and LoR mainly. There were also some good clans which deserve to be mentioned, such as FeW (Lalo and other Americans), wQw (I personally didn't like most of them... sorry Dulek<3) and pB; Mast3r, Alias, Flori and me xD (we won a couple of seasons) I also remember a clan called wA which were formed by w:a players who tried to conquer the w:wp streetz, muaahah. In the end they didn't. Probably because they were more focused on w:a...
CBSingles was ruled by SoLo, Lyte aka Slaw, Oso and me on their last days :-[
Also, Glady might have some info from ktc clan site, as this clan earned the most achievements in w:wp.
The competition was too low compared to w:a. One thing is for sure, w:wp players always prefered to play funners over league games. I remember playing Ropers only zook (OZ) on Fabrouse and Aenemic maps. When I first came to w:a, I got annoyed by its players due to taking ropers way too serious. They used only mines and grenades, even in funners! At this point, we can't compare both communities since w:wp died long time ago, plus it got merged with w:a... what I wanted to state is that the Freestyle and "play for fun" spirit comes from w:wp. I realize that I'm generalizing here, but that's my opinion /offtopic
EDIT:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071102222847/http://cbc-wwp.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=3
That's all I managed to get so far... some CBClans winners of 2007, which were the last w:wp sessions... it died in October'07
first time I'm using this wayback archive tool... it's cool but I don't know how to handle it
very good initiative Crazy! :-*
also good stuff Crazy, Darkone and Co.
RoQQo aka Gonzho lol that dude was funny as hell, wonder where he gone
Here's everything that's been captured about cbc, if someone wanna browse through it.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cbc-wwp.com/phpbb2/* (http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cbc-wwp.com/phpbb2/*)
Hola, Tower!
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CBClans was ruled by KTC and LoR mainly. There were also some good clans which deserve to be mentioned, such as FeW (Lalo and other Americans), wQw (I personally didn't like most of them... sorry Dulek<3) and pB; Mast3r, Alias, Flori and me xD (we won a couple of seasons)What the heck ?! How dare you forget kF ! Seita, Adam, Redspider, Neo, me and some inactive. :p
CBSingles was ruled by SoLo, Lyte aka Slaw, Oso and me on their last days :-[Solo only ruled on the last days of Cbs.
What the heck ?! How dare you forget kF ! Seita, Adam, Redspider, Neo, me and some inactive. :p
Funny how you guys clain your own clans as the best ones.
Anyway, wQw was the best, period! :D
Funny how you guys clain your own clans as the best ones.Imo, there were no clan above every others.
Anyway, wQw was the best, period! :D
About ToP, I don't even remember that clan.
Who were in ?
About ToP, I don't even remember that clan.
Who were in ?
Funny how you guys clain your own clans as the best ones.
Anyway, wQw was the best, period! :D
Well, if we leave subjective issues aside, like ToP having, by quite some difference, the best collection of skilled players in one same WWP clan, it still remains as the only clan to have an unbeaten perfect season in a clan league. And that was accomplished not one but two times.
Funny how you guys clain your own clans as the best ones.
Anyway, wQw was the best, period! :D
Well, if we leave subjective issues aside, like ToP having, by quite some difference, the best collection of skilled players in one same WWP clan, it still remains as the only clan to have an unbeaten perfect season in a clan league. And that was accomplished not one but two times.
Well if we leave the subjective issues aside, dt is still the most accomplished clan ever. CF and mm (because of mm is kind of dt) is getting close.
And who gives a shit if you go unbeaten on WWP,
:P
do it on W:A like HoS did and you have some srs propsö
Since when is wwp relevant?
Since when is wwp relevant?
Since when is wwp relevant?
It was for 2 years, most good players from WA moved and it was the worms game. Then came the betas.
yeah, true, it didnt seem like 2 years even. most people i played with came and went in less than a year, many of us came back well before the beta. so many people didnt even make the move, the only time wwp was ever loaded was when it was brand spanking new, once that wore off, people came back to wa.Since when is wwp relevant?
It was for 2 years, most good players from WA moved and it was the worms game. Then came the betas.
Ah, I get it, you didn't realize an actual answer existed eh.
Since when is wwp relevant?
It was for 2 years, most good players from WA moved and it was the worms game. Then came the betas.
Yea right.
CBClans was ruled by KTC and LoR mainly. There were also some good clans which deserve to be mentioned, such as FeW (Lalo and other Americans), wQw (I personally didn't like most of them... sorry Dulek<3) and pB; Mast3r, Alias, Flori and me xD (we won a couple of seasons)What the heck ?! How dare you forget kF ! Seita, Adam, Redspider, Neo, me and some inactive. :p
There were also AoD (Sly8/Muad'Dib, Master, Alias, Razor, me and some other I can't remember atm), but we weren't that active in Cbc.
Anyway, WWP people ftw! What would w:a be nowadays without them? :-[Nothing ! Muahaha, we rock. ;D
Since when is wwp relevant?
Since when is wwp relevant?
Take a look at the leaderboard. 13 players out of the top20 were born in w:wp
CBClans was ruled by KTC and LoR mainly. There were also some good clans which deserve to be mentioned, such as FeW (Lalo and other Americans), wQw (I personally didn't like most of them... sorry Dulek<3) and pB; Mast3r, Alias, Flori and me xD (we won a couple of seasons)What the heck ?! How dare you forget kF ! Seita, Adam, Redspider, Neo, me and some inactive. :p
There were also AoD (Sly8/Muad'Dib, Master, Alias, Razor, me and some other I can't remember atm), but we weren't that active in Cbc.
You're right, Pirian! kF, killing Frenzy. It was a great and cool CBC clan. Sorry, I'm sure I've forgotten a lot more successful clans/players.
@ropa: I remember ToP clan, but I don't think you guys played too much w:wp. I recall ToP as a two-man team (you and dev-h?) which played a couple of clanners and then never showed up again. I recall wA being much more dangerous than ToP. And yeah, wA won a CBC season.
Anyway, WWP people ftw! What would w:a be nowadays without them? :-[
Novicane... :(Dennis? Hes still working at UPS (7 years) when i last talked to him, he plays call of duty on the xbox nonstop. I went over to his house years ago, was going to go 1 or 2 years ago but we lost touch for the most part, i stopped playing xbox. Dennis is the man. :)
Why are there no more cool wormers nowadays
Now I imagine him as Doug from King of Queens. :pHaha he doesn't wear the outfit though, he works in the warehouse.
I'd love to see DwI back. Someone should get in touch with Flipzter, ME or novicane. Maybe they'd return if they knew that WA is active with a new league
Btw, what was the name of Tjerps brother? Never figured out after he became inactive.
Well, ropa is right, Dennis said him, xMEx, and pitch came back in like 2009 or something and lasted a week. It takes a certain type of player to stick around this game for so long.I'd love to see DwI back. Someone should get in touch with Flipzter, ME or novicane. Maybe they'd return if they knew that WA is active with a new league
They'd last 2 days.
Reading this had been a nostalgic over load. Great times.
I saw ropa ask c23 for replays. If anyone on here had some replays with me I would love to get them.
Good to see people are still playing this game.
What's the profile of this 'BadCereal' guy here in TUS? I can't find it, I wanna watch some replays of him.
I know Kaya, he often hosts intermediates, it's weird that old and good players like them act like random players on wormnet.
This is hardly history by the way, but a very very small percentage of heroes of WA.
And that list is somehow wrong, I have been playing WA since July 1999, and I was heavily involved in the ranks before they went down and badcereal for starters was 1st when the whole thing went down, I remember cuz that guy was like an idol of mine... I always pictured him as some brazilian gangster.
Who the hell is sev cuz I really don't remember that name ever being on the list of best players...
There are several winning clans missing, some of which I have been a part of myself, amongst alot of my old friends who haven't been mentioned :(
Still, fantastic to see some of the results, thanks for your time Crazy.
There were also some successful clans in wwp before some of those 'wwp born pro' of today are doing well.
This is before cbc, and clans like HDI, KTC, vP etc.
What was ownless and fox's clan that won some leagues?
I wanna know where this data came from. I won BNG league sometime back in 2000.
First some background. Most of you won't remember me, but I once ran a fairly large worms website called "Joe's Worms Page for Dummies". This was a pretty big deal to me in my pre-adolescent non-existent life. I looked at the site's stats compulsively every day, and almost considered myself some kind of worms celebrity. I specialized in providing worms programs - everything you could think of - grave changers, a HL2 mod, up to and including full versions of Worms 2, WWP, and the Korean/Chinese/Japanese Worms games. I was on an obsessive all-consuming mission to collect everything, public and private.
Over the years I've done a lot of things in service of that mission which I am not proud of. Basically everyone who was my friend I betrayed in some way. To everyone I was an asshole to, I am very sorry. This was all at least 10-15 years ago, but I have never forgotten. I feel that these things should be added to the history books.
In no particular order:
-I sent Deadcode a program I 'wrote' in visual basic which had a hidden freeware component that i downloaded from a website for 'script kiddies'. That free script let you browse a target's hard drive and download things. The visible part that I wrote was a simple form where you click on a gif of a fat kid repeatedly to make him dance. My goal was to steal WA's source code. This was when I had access to various beta builds via Team15 and spoke with DC regularly. DC was too smart to heed my repeated advice to leave the program open (and download winsock dll's), but I am certain he knew (or later discovered) what was up. Good thing I was unsuccessful - probably would have released it and destroyed WA. I never really spoke to DC again after that.
-I sent the above program to TonY (author of RRkit) and stole his private build of 'batty ropes' back when it was still exclusive. I shared his copy with a friend and that friend distributed it widely. TonY got blamed and basically disappeared from WN after that.
-Using above program also stole good buddy (S.K.)'s private copy of Silkworm 4.13f (very powerful cheating abilities) which had "For XXXX" (buddy's name) plastered in the popup. I shared his copy with one or two people. Somehow fortunately it didn't get spread much beyond that. Shortly after this guy disappeared from WN forever. The real shitty thing is I had my own private watermarked versions of both batty ropes and silkworm, but I didn't want to risk sharing my copies.
-Me and above friend tried to trick totomds into sending us his private build which enabled global SDET mode and some other goodies. We posed as a fake webhosting company selling dedicated servers, offering one to totomds in exchange for the build. I pressured this friend to give toto his phone number (mother's house phone #) as the 'sales rep' because i had a squeaky child voice still at that point - lol. Toto played along for a while and then called us out on it - i guess it was too obvious!
-I extracted the database from my former worms site to get all the hashed passwords. I recovered some of those passwords, using them to gain access to admin accounts on other worms sites, from which i downloaded the databases/hashed passwords. I also stole the databases from a few sites which I hosted on my web server. RRkit, and Syc0's short-lived league called AL, and maybe a small forum or two. Had a list of over 2000 people's decoded passwords at one point. Ultimately gained admin access to cl2k with a friend's help, got the database, and friend deleted the whole site. Cl2k never really came back after that. That sucks - cl2k was a great site. We very nearly did the same thing to blamethepixel.
-After meeting qp`Pure/Magic IRL decided i was too "cool" for my good online worms buddy Lex (who we had both also met previously), since he had a bunch of programming books and stuff at his house. Badmouthed him to Magic and worse still i told a bunch of people that Lex was weird and uncool. Reading the above, was i cool? f@#! no, i was a pale faced geek/nerd/insecure asshole, 100%. Lex was actually very cool in that he gave no f@#!s and did his own thing, which i did not understand at the time.
-Long after the above events Lex put his neck on the line to share a very exclusive gamebreakingly-powerful (now defunct) WA mod with me. I broke his trust once again and shared it with someone. Luckily this was a better person than me because afaik he never shared it or even used it.
This was back in a time when I only had a few real life friends. Worms and most of these people were all disproportionately big parts of my life. I have never talked about most of these things or apologized to any of these people. Too late now - just adding it in case people find it interesting.
have u thinking of getting professional help xD
-I sent Deadcode a program I 'wrote' in visual basic which had a hidden freeware component that i downloaded from a website for 'script kiddies'. That free script let you browse a target's hard drive and download things. The visible part that I wrote was a simple form where you click on a gif of a fat kid repeatedly to make him dance. My goal was to steal WA's source code. This was when I had access to various beta builds via the alpha testing group and spoke with DC regularly. DC was too smart to heed my repeated advice to leave the program open (and download winsock dll's), but I am certain he knew (or later discovered) what was up. Good thing I was unsuccessful - probably would have released it and destroyed WA. I never really spoke to DC again after that.I have no memory of this. I don't remember you sending me any programs, don't remember you asking me repeatedly to keep one open, nor talking about winsock DLLs. I have pretty much always been cautious about such things, though.
-I extracted the database from my former worms site to get all the hashed passwords. I recovered some of those passwords, using them to gain access to admin accounts on other worms sites, from which i downloaded the databases/hashed passwords. I also stole the databases from a few sites which I hosted on my web server. RRkit, and Syc0's short-lived league called AL, and maybe a small forum or two. Had a list of over 2000 people's decoded passwords at one point. Ultimately gained admin access to cl2k with a friend's help, got the database, and friend deleted the whole site. Cl2k never really came back after that. That sucks - cl2k was a great site. We very nearly did the same thing to blamethepixel.Wow. I don't want to make you feel more guilty than you do already, but of all the things you've listed, this is probably the worst. The worst part about this is that there was no backup, and all the cl2k forum posts were lost forever. Although I did save some threads on my hard drive (mainly ones where replays were being shared).
have u thinking of getting professional help xDThis made me laugh :D.
Whatever happened to Ryan Brummit?Last I spoke to him was 10+ years ago - he was moving to the state of Washington, driving all the way from Missouri. He was emphatically done with worms at that point.
I have no memory of this. I don't remember you sending me any programs, don't remember you asking me repeatedly to keep one open, nor talking about winsock DLLs. I have pretty much always been cautious about such things, though.A very long time ago on AIM - roughly 2003 or 2004. This was the gif: http://giphy.com/gifs/fat-11pVPEm3W6QS7S. I don't know if you ever opened it, but I definitely sent it. Figured you probably took precautions like that. The script added "|COMPLETE|" to the end of all the files it downloaded. I don't have regular access to my old worms files or I might be able to come up with a more exact date. I don't have the cl2k db anymore.
Maybe with further details my memory could be jogged. I'd be quite curious to know. Do you remember the approximate date when this happened, and what means you used to send the program to me?
I'm guessing that if you did send me this program, I either ran it under a VM or never got around to running it at all.
Wow. I don't want to make you feel more guilty than you do already, but of all the things you've listed, this is probably the worst. The worst part about this is that there was no backup, and all the cl2k forum posts were lost forever. Although I did save some threads on my hard drive (mainly ones where replays were being shared).Yes. That was a very major loss. I do feel worse now.
Inspired by the debate with avirex and TheWalrus about pickable schemes in WACL, I'm trying to wayback them for all the legacy leagues
AL:
Couldn't find :(
I'm looking forward to your details/corrections!
Thank you! I updated the postInspired by the debate with avirex and TheWalrus about pickable schemes in WACL, I'm trying to wayback them for all the legacy leagues
AL:
Couldn't find :(
I'm looking forward to your details/corrections!
I am co-founder of AL. We had Elite, BnG, Roper, TTRR, Team17 and Shopper/WXW (same rating).
Can you share the replays please?-I extracted the database from my former worms site to get all the hashed passwords. I recovered some of those passwords, using them to gain access to admin accounts on other worms sites, from which i downloaded the databases/hashed passwords. I also stole the databases from a few sites which I hosted on my web server. RRkit, and Syc0's short-lived league called AL, and maybe a small forum or two. Had a list of over 2000 people's decoded passwords at one point. Ultimately gained admin access to cl2k with a friend's help, got the database, and friend deleted the whole site. Cl2k never really came back after that. That sucks - cl2k was a great site. We very nearly did the same thing to blamethepixel.Wow. I don't want to make you feel more guilty than you do already, but of all the things you've listed, this is probably the worst. The worst part about this is that there was no backup, and all the cl2k forum posts were lost forever. Although I did save some threads on my hard drive (mainly ones where replays were being shared).
FB had these schemes earlier: Battle Race, BnG, Pro / Elite, Fort, Roper, Rope Race, Shopper, Team17
http://web.archive.org/web/20041019160811/http://www.laene.nl/fb/index.php?p=rules
That would be awesome.puma¡!!!!!! Holy shit long time
It's going great. Life makes it a bit harder to play video games now a days. Browsing this site makes me wish I had never stopped playing this one.
Would be pretty entertaining to see SilentMime troll the shit out of people.
Yeah it has been a long timeThat would be awesome.puma¡!!!!!! Holy shit long time
It's going great. Life makes it a bit harder to play video games now a days. Browsing this site makes me wish I had never stopped playing this one.
Would be pretty entertaining to see SilentMime troll the shit out of people.
awwww since 2000 playing this game thats really a lot of time!!! proud cos king!CL2K - Clan League 2000:
Hall of Fame:
Seasons: Clans - (1st, 2nd, 3rd) Singles (1st, 2nd, 3rd) - Div1 Singles (1st, 2nd, 3rd) - Div2
Season 1: LaG, KASC, LoR Slothball, Kopite, MPH No div 2
Season 2: WEF, DID, FWF MPH, Kevin, YNWA No div 2
Season 3: PSU, SOS, WWW MPH, Devastation, Snickers (Div 1) DarkMavis, DonerKebab, WormZ (Div 2)
Season 5: EiF, OSW, SFX MPH, Snickers, DarkMavis (Div 1) ShadyMilkman, Destroyer, Tjerp (Div 2)
Season 6: OSW, SFX, x2x YNWA, MPH, Devastation (Div 1) EnDoxoNe, Dodgefreak, 187 (Div 2)
Season 18: WWA Data lost Data lost
Season 25: DT, x2x, CKC Mablak, Almog, Nino KRD (Rotated league)
Staff: PooMachine, UltraViolent, MrLee, MrBishie, Thorask, DirtyRat, Liberty, MPH, EviL, Zepho, DeathRaven.
* Lots of data missing
A very long time ago on AIM - roughly 2003 or 2004. This was the gif: http://giphy.com/gifs/fat-11pVPEm3W6QS7S. I don't know if you ever opened it, but I definitely sent it. Figured you probably took precautions like that. The script added "|COMPLETE|" to the end of all the files it downloaded. I don't have regular access to my old worms files or I might be able to come up with a more exact date. I don't have the cl2k db anymore.-I sent Deadcode a program I 'wrote' in visual basic which had a hidden freeware component that i downloaded from a website for 'script kiddies'. That free script let you browse a target's hard drive and download things. The visible part that I wrote was a simple form where you click on a gif of a fat kid repeatedly to make him dance. My goal was to steal WA's source code. This was when I had access to various beta builds via the alpha testing group and spoke with DC regularly. DC was too smart to heed my repeated advice to leave the program open (and download winsock dll's), but I am certain he knew (or later discovered) what was up. Good thing I was unsuccessful - probably would have released it and destroyed WA. I never really spoke to DC again after that.I have no memory of this. I don't remember you sending me any programs, don't remember you asking me repeatedly to keep one open, nor talking about winsock DLLs. I have pretty much always been cautious about such things, though.
Maybe with further details my memory could be jogged. I'd be quite curious to know. Do you remember the approximate date when this happened, and what means you used to send the program to me?
I'm guessing that if you did send me this program, I either ran it under a VM or never got around to running it at all.
Filename | virustotal detection ratio | Timestamp when downloaded |
logo_program.exe | 0 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/f6c92b47c2a6d2336df831439c0172f970736c6301ac30c63749c57803bb57aa/analysis/) | 2004-06-09 17:30:38 -0700 |
logo.exe | 2 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/1975c7a1e9c752d76eee0ef174e06a7369d2d17bc6628dc4bb38b3910f677eaa/analysis/) | 2004-06-09 18:43:42 -0700 |
joeaaaachatV3.exe | 10 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/d79283ca90484c61047f8253f7f5657e747ef91aff6df85104e8ada2754fbc9e/analysis/) | 2004-06-09 20:20:06 -0700 |
By the way a tell your worms story (/ apologize) topic could have some interesting writings I guess.. unfortunately I would have to add there some words too, because I ruined the hungarian league anno with really stupid things I regret already. Ah and I also had access to things I shouldn't have (since I also had some worms sites), but I never abuse that situation for bad things. (nothing related to GS here, don't worry guys :D)
Little on topic: I have the source code and the db of the hungarian league still, but this might be interesting only for some hungarian players. And this topic has convienced me that I should backup the nW site also, because it is a nice memory for some people I guess.
Greetings! I was hoping to find the old top 100 rankings for W:A; even a screenshot will be fine. I've looked all over the net and can't find it anywhere. Thank you!http://web.archive.org/web/20001026234046/http://worms.team17.com/pc/?rankings_rank
I started reminiscing of the old days of competitive worms and roping, those were the good days. I think I was in EiF, Ropin' Raja (?) and maybe DFA but I can't really remember. I recall playing with MaxDamage, MeNaCeDoG, NRGSpoon, Zippo, Hamster, Jmoberg, Jubei (great maps!), SuperSheep (?), FnB, and losing to the top Brazilian player, I cant remember his name, but I did win once or twice!
I was primarily a standard competitive player and made it to the top 50, I think, before they froze the leaderboards. I then moved to roping and loved it. I probably put years into this game and probably over a 1000 hours of game time. This game was easily in my top 5 all time favorites, even today.
Very nice detective work. You must have a great backup regime. Your post inspired me to go digging through my old computers/hard drives looking for the client program (file explorer/downloader) that goes with those programs. Couldn't find it, but I did find a backup of the AL (Armageddon League) forum database, and an old Coca-Cola commercial supposedly starring Deadcode with an enormous red afro.A very long time ago on AIM - roughly 2003 or 2004. This was the gif: http://giphy.com/gifs/fat-11pVPEm3W6QS7S. I don't know if you ever opened it, but I definitely sent it. Figured you probably took precautions like that. The script added "|COMPLETE|" to the end of all the files it downloaded. I don't have regular access to my old worms files or I might be able to come up with a more exact date. I don't have the cl2k db anymore.-I sent Deadcode a program I 'wrote' in visual basic which had a hidden freeware component that i downloaded from a website for 'script kiddies'. That free script let you browse a target's hard drive and download things. The visible part that I wrote was a simple form where you click on a gif of a fat kid repeatedly to make him dance. My goal was to steal WA's source code. This was when I had access to various beta builds via the alpha testing group and spoke with DC regularly. DC was too smart to heed my repeated advice to leave the program open (and download winsock dll's), but I am certain he knew (or later discovered) what was up. Good thing I was unsuccessful - probably would have released it and destroyed WA. I never really spoke to DC again after that.I have no memory of this. I don't remember you sending me any programs, don't remember you asking me repeatedly to keep one open, nor talking about winsock DLLs. I have pretty much always been cautious about such things, though.
Maybe with further details my memory could be jogged. I'd be quite curious to know. Do you remember the approximate date when this happened, and what means you used to send the program to me?
I'm guessing that if you did send me this program, I either ran it under a VM or never got around to running it at all.
I found the programs JoE sent me:
Filename virustotal detection ratio Timestamp when downloaded logo_program.exe 0 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/f6c92b47c2a6d2336df831439c0172f970736c6301ac30c63749c57803bb57aa/analysis/)2004-06-09 17:30:38 -0700 logo.exe 2 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/1975c7a1e9c752d76eee0ef174e06a7369d2d17bc6628dc4bb38b3910f677eaa/analysis/)2004-06-09 18:43:42 -0700 joeaaaachatV3.exe 10 / 56 (https://virustotal.com/en/file/d79283ca90484c61047f8253f7f5657e747ef91aff6df85104e8ada2754fbc9e/analysis/)2004-06-09 20:20:06 -0700
I'm guessing that's not the Bungee race Sniper?that Sniper is one of The Allotment admins
first awards ever:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603220150/http://www.wa-forum.com/wa.swf
that Sniper is one of The Allotment adminsremember the allotment, it WAS the best wa site, had like 10x the content any other website had back then. I remember it being short lived though, sad when it went offline.
btw ropa was a bit incorrect here ;D