[Lupastic] joy (:
[NogardDerNaerok] I think a lot of schemes are just much worse on too simple maps.
[NogardDerNaerok] Even stuff like Hysteria, which everyone specifically plays on totally open islands.
[NogardDerNaerok] Which then means stuff like flame thrower and cow almost never come into play.
[NogardDerNaerok] It's fine though, at some point the game itself will have to address this.
[Lupastic] the previous map wasnt so smooth and simple though.. ><
[Lupastic] this is a bit more complex
[NogardDerNaerok] It's still totally open. :D
[Lupastic] well isnt this island TRL team17? :P
[NogardDerNaerok] Still needs good maps!
[Lupastic] the map doesnt really decide anything I think btw (: only the crates. and the spawns
[Lupastic] map being open or very closed and blocked dosent add to the crates
[NogardDerNaerok] Well but that's the thing, right?
[NogardDerNaerok] The more open the map, the more the crates decide it.
[NogardDerNaerok] There's just very little room for skill when you pick up a crate and get to attack basically every turn.
[Echiko`ae] it is just faster imho but also challenging
[Lupastic] hmm yes. faster. thats true
[NogardDerNaerok] Faster is definitely worse!
[NogardDerNaerok] It's like playing fewer hands of poker, basically.
[NogardDerNaerok] The more hands played, the more likely the better players are to come out on top.
[Echiko`ae] it depends. with islands the "hiding" part is somehow missing, because you don't have the whole map covering you, especially if the cavern maps are very articulated
[Lupastic] I dont really agree with ur opinion as "winning on more complex maps is more pro and more deserved" :W at all :o
[Lupastic] a good strategical playa in this scheme could win on any maps
[Lupastic] no matter how smooth or complex it is
[NogardDerNaerok] Well yeah, but it takes *less* strategy.
[NogardDerNaerok] Like, by definition.
[Echiko`ae] and moreover it comes for example the personal taste. I like t17 islands. it is innovative. btw I still understand if people like t17 caverns
[NogardDerNaerok] Yeah, caves are the other extreme.
[Echiko`ae] island adds some spicy weapons too, like armageddon and the concrete :D
[Echiko`ae] yeah
[NogardDerNaerok] Where it only really makes sense to play for the late game.
[Echiko`ae] I like caverns too :)
[Echiko`ae] yeah
[NogardDerNaerok] But I think complex island maps are where the sweet spot is.
[Echiko`ae] exactly. Some players may not like the idea to run to the roof to save themselves from the water
[Lupastic] woah!
[Echiko`ae] mainly the strategy after some minutes becomes that
[Lupastic] I enjoy playing t17 in caverns too but.. only one time a month :P or something
[Echiko`ae] but it is also a matter of tastes. at first I didn't like t17 islands, now I like it :D
[Echiko`ae] for example intermediate cavern... oh no! xD it is so sloooow for me!!!
[NogardDerNaerok] Hah.
[Echiko`ae] :D
[Echiko`ae] the world is nice because there's variety :)
[Lupastic] I like you when you are being PC <3 Echi :W
[Echiko`ae] I can be less PC if I want :D
[Echiko`ae] especially during soccer world cup when Italy MUST win at all costs :D
[Echiko`ae] there I forget countries, respect, colours etc. xD only Italy for me :D
[NogardDerNaerok] Jeez.
[Echiko`ae] :D
[NogardDerNaerok] The disparity in weapons is too damn high!
[Lupastic] finally I get so much lucks now
[Lupastic] well deserved :P
[Lupastic] after all those f@#!ing matches I played before..
[Lupastic] oh
[Lupastic] :c
[Lupastic] I wanted to free this worm
[Lupastic] next turn
[Echiko`ae] ah
[Lupastic] xd
[NogardDerNaerok] Got one as well.
[Lupastic] nice
[NogardDerNaerok] Not that it's gonna make even a bit of difference, lulz.
[NogardDerNaerok] Meh.
[Echiko`ae] :(
[Lupastic] x3 uwu
[NogardDerNaerok] G'game.
[Lupastic] gg (:
[Echiko`ae] oh