Quote from: Triad on February 01, 2017, 05:23 PM

People saying Shopper is popular but actually it's not. Here's overall stats:


But it's popular around newbies, so it can gain more interest if we divide leagues to amateur and pro.

D1 League:
* Elite
* TTRR
* WxW
* Roper
* Hysteria (less noob friendly like limited petrol)
* a2b BnG

D2 League:
* Light Elite (more noob friendly like it has 5 sec hotseat etc.)
* Big RR
* Shopper
* Roper
* Hysteria
* BnG

Let's get rid of current free league and replace it with something like:
* Darts
* Team17
* Aerial(pls remove crates)
* Boom Race
* Bungee Race
* Kaos
* Abnormal
* an 8th scheme that is fairly popular and doesn't have much or any luck, and it's not Normal or Mole(normal got ONL and CWT, and Mole got Team17 instead)

Bo7 PO for new free league.

Rest excluded schemes can renew interest with cups or TRL.

Sounds great

you move from 2 inactive leagues to 3 inactive leagues, mind to elaborate whats so great about this? if you want to save leagues you need fresh blood, to get fresh blood you need to make the concept attractive for newcomers.
- shutdown all leagues on tus
- open one league with supersheeper, mole shopper, shopper, hysteria, team 17, intermediate.
- host a big eac like tourney which takes a year, including cool prices for the remaining  tryhard nerd pros.
- if your league attracts new players, you can reopen a refined classic year after 1 or 2 years.

Roper is only real with the neat little instant mine, placed on the edge of the map 

the best wmd player cant even beat me in shopper, we have every right to be elitist 

Random turn order transforms Hysteria into a  worse, less skilled BnG clone. Plop your worms from the start is like piling each worm of your opponent in elite to me. You speed up the game.

A good BnG player like Komo might even be happy if someone goes 80 hp turnorder tele on several low/mid hp worms. 80 hp is 2 shots, if you hit them. In this scenario 20, 25, 30 beats 80 hp all the time.

There are a few counter elements when it comes to league hysteria.
To fully turn it into cheap version of BnG, is the same as lalo and others did to shopper.
Instead of being forced to react to unique mechanics, you can win it by Nades and Zooks alone.
Instead of being forced to optimize your knocks, go for several attack combos, bait opponents to go for specific worms, you simply turn it into a 30 second roper.

Making schemes more similar to each other in order to raise the needed skill level doesnt make the league allround, it does the opposite.
Why do we have 3 schemes rewarding you for doing the same thing (attacking a worm after a more or less hard rope turn)

People confuse repetitive elements with skill.
A good Allrounder should be able to master several different skills.
If we want to reward allround play we would have to flip the whole league upside down:

Add schemes you need to master unique skills in order to excell in them, like Bungeerace, JPrace, Battlerace, Darts, Intermediate

Komo is right when he says TFL requires more skill than TUS Classic.

gj guys

Quote from: TheKomodo on January 26, 2017, 12:27 PM

Senator, Free, if you had your way this League would die.

You are being unbelievably selfish.

I don't even care you don't like Hysteria it just annoys me you don't understand the definition of "competitive" in the English dictionary.

I dont need a dictionary to tell me what I know.

Hyst has potential but aerial atm is closer to a skilled scheme, both skill and tactics wise.

maybe you should look up your dictionary more often, since losing because of random shit placements  or random generated double damage/ superweapon spawn combos does sound a lot like maxscheme.

edited elite maps should be moved to free league, alongside hysteria.