yeah but wanted to make sure you knew they were mentioned indeed first chapter of Genesis  I think

well, I see that while I was typing 3 other replies have been made... anyways komo forget it heh, I give up explaining cuz I just can't do it in English, sorry
I rather spend my time tus'ing

komo, you're just WRONG in almost everything you say
first, I weren't taught religion by my parents , I chose to be a believer only a few years ago, and it was after I already had some biology background the the evolution theory stuff of darvin which is btw proven to be false.

I personally mean no offence, but also, I can't believe there are people that actually believe in something that has NEVER even had any slight chance of their being ANY proof.

dude, hypnosis brings people back to their previous lives.. for example a guy I know during hypnosis was speaking fluent german as if it was his main language, and this guy didn't even know a word when he was awake.. and the number of strories like that only raises everyday... so if that's not enough proof for you that there is reincarnation I don't know what is, can science explain it?

I really don't intend to upset or anger anyone here but this IS what this thread is about, sharing your opinion, but to me, people that believe in god are weak minded and deep down inside just scared of death and other things we can't explain. It's like they are sheep, following a life that has already been determined and they really have no choice over their events in their life, I can't sit back and accept this, if I believed in this, i'd rather die than have no choice in my own fate.

who said anything about not having a choice? any each of us has a free will and choice and makes his own fate
once again, you are wrong and it all comes from not learning deeply the bible

Even using the word "God" to me is just stupid, God is just a word that Humans made up and even IF their was a "God" I doubt this being would call itself "God" as this would imply a "godlike complex" which seems a bit selfish, so why would a being that created everything have a higher personality than the very things it created itself?

another time being wrong, or just not-accepting
god gave the name for himself, in fact, god has over 70 names in the bible, but yeah, it's in Hebrew and the English word "God" wasn't there.. and each of his names have a meaning of his exsistance and clues for his characterictis

I am with nino here, everything must be created, your explanation is jibberish and extremely flawed.

that's just impossible, cuz if everything must be created there's never a first creator, so it's a paradox that science will never figure
but I tell you there is an answer for this, which I can't explain here, and it basically about god being exist forever, outside time scale

For example, you call "God" a "him" which implies he must have a Mother, so technically someone DID create him.

once again, English word "him", obviously god has no body, so he can't have a mother, so he wasn't born
please don't go into stupid things like that. language can't always express spiritual stuff

If there WAS nothing before "God" then what would be the point of his existence?

again wrong, or you just repling to my post without even reading it carefully
I said god has always been there, cuz he created the time, so there was nothing before him. therefore there's no need in point of existing him, but dicuss the point of why he made us exist

If there was nothing in the present then nothing would have happened therefor he didn't create mankind...

what are you talking about

To me the Bible is just like a bedtime story, makes people feel safe and loved and wanted, because all bedtimes storys end nice, although I know everything in the Bible is not "nice" the jist of it implies it's the moral thing to believe in.

have you ever tried to look differently in the bible other than bedtime story?
have you even considered that maybe, just maybe, it's true ? and there is more into it than just stories?

I do respect your choice to believe what you believe Almog, and I really don't mean any offence, because you believe what you believe and I believe what I believe and we still get along just fine, so theres no harm done.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thats that.

thanks

I read 70% of this thread, I noticed most people here don't believe there's a god... it seems like many people here study some articles in science, or think they know enough science, and think that science and bible/religious contradicts eachother when it's simply not so

another thing I noticed is that people say it's just easier for 'low/poor humans' to believe in god, when it's actually much easier to believe there is no god

I also think most of it caused by most of you living in christanity countries, i've read some about that religion and about jesus, yeah it's stupid I see why you dont believe it.. but studying the bilble/god through christanity is nothing like studying it through Judaism

so yeah, I like science and I everyday learn more in my religion, the more I go deep the more I see how it's obvious there just had to be one creator and that there is another life after we die

what brings me to whole this, is simply things I've experienced in my life, or my friends have...
the only thing that can divert my beliefs is if somone will be able to answer the question - How did it all start? and I'm not talking about the theories of the big bang, I'm talking about the first-ever tiniest energy made... until then - I stick to believe god did all this

p.s.
I don't think god cares what I wear or what my sexlife is.. but yeah rules like these do help people get better attitude in life

Excellent game, definately the most challenging I've had in this league so far.

so I have won 12 games now in a row but my streak says only +3
I think it happend after my game vs magic was voided

ne1?