Hey Artic,

1st, 2nd, 3rd of August sound okay? I don't want to set a time now as I am unsure of my work commitments, but will post again closer to the date. I guess this post is pretty pointless, but hey mods I'm doing something, plx to not be bootin mes!

Ditto everything HHC said imo. I'm having a laugh but I guess I'll be bored of it in a week or two as there is just no room for "proper" worming...

Have to say the funniest thing is listening to people who don't realise they have their microphones plugged in. Just played some Scottish guy, "ACH NAAAAAAAAAAY!". Hahahahaha xD

f@#! it why not. Sign me up jabroni!

And if it's legal to report games this way, then there's no point of the poll, because it's already possible to agree on a w2roper game, so there's no need to add w2roper "as a second choice to classic roper".

AFAIK ATM you can make any changes to the schemes you want TBH, as long as both players agree on it...IMO. If this gets passed then if someone wants to choose w2 roper, the opponent can't object.

Amirite?

its clear no1 gives a f@#!, they r 2 newb for a real rope scheme.. they just want to continue with sets that are f@#!in dated back 10 years, when W:A players were just learning to rope....

the sets were 15second turns, and 10 second retreat for a reason when w:a first came out, cuz u were all newbs....

i was hoping after 10 years u guyz could adjust the scheme a bit, but guess not.

How about you actually give people a f@#!ing chance to play the scheme before asking for a poll? People don't like change, it's been a week since you've posted the scheme and you're surprised people are voting no? OH NOS TOYS OUT THE PRAM. I love ropers and am not exactly inactive and still haven't had that much time to play many w2ropers to get a good feel for it. As you say we've gone 10 years without w2 ropers and you're trying to get everyone to convert within a week. If you actually left it for a month or two, let people finish the cup (which would surely prove all the best people are winning right?) then maybe you would have grounds to start calling us retarded noobs etc. I dunno wtf you expected.

FUUUUUUUUUUUU

You just answered your own question mate, and it's already happened.

ANYONE who avoids, is a pussy, I WILL play any scheme if I have to, I won't turn down a clanner just because I don't like a scheme, I do like more or less every scheme, I just like BnG a million times better.

Can you give me an example of it happening? No one in the singles playoffs has avoided to get there. It happens sometimes in clanners, where some clans won't play certain schemes unless they have the correct members present (CKC have done this on more than one occasion btw!). This is annoying for those who play everyone at everything but it's simply unresolvable.

And I think it's extremely short sighted to call anyone who avoids a pussy. Anyone who has aspirations of becoming an allrounder and/or climbing up the TUS leaderboard should be villified in such a way, but as I mentioned earlier, what's wrong with the more casual player enjoying his shoppers/defaults against other enthusiasts?

I think it's fine if people don't want to play certain schemes. Not everyone plays TUS to become good all rounders, they just enjoy  competitive games of schemes they enjoy. Does it really matter if people avoid? I don't believe it causes many problems and if a point was made of reporting avoiders, I think that could only harm league activity. There are new players who don't like playing defaults and love to shop, also new defaulters who don't want to rope. I'd rather have them playing a few games than throwing them out for avoiding games.

The only reason I could see this being a problem is if a clan/player was greatly benefitting from avoiding and achieving a higher ranking than they deserve. Is this happening?