It's significantly less lossy than MP3.

im dumb, i meant WormsDC-to-WA, edited

I figured that's what you meant.

I decided to have a quick peek at the maps for Worms United. Some discoveries:

MOUNTAINS
They all have mountain sets! I had entirely forgotten that. Unfortunately, Worms Utd's mountain dimensions are entirely different from WormsDC's, which I already kind of knew from converting the mountains for the MONEY terrain, but yikes! I have to choose between drastically changing how the mountains work for WormsDC, or just abandoning them entirely... but the fact that the few maps from Utd that Team17 converted themselves for DC included a mountain set means I'd want to go after that uniformity. So the Worms Utd stuff is definitely going to take longer than everything else. Yikes!

DIMENSIONS
A standard Amiga Worms/WormsDC map is 960x350px. This is 50px shorter than the maps in Worms Utd. For the most part, I don't think this presents a problem - there's usually enough space at the top or bottom that cropping isn't an issue. There are a couple of maps, however, where this isn't going to be possible, so I have to make some hard choices. That Windows 95 map, for example! I would probably have to lose some of the icons at the top of the map, and if I do that is it still the same map? Again, this is something that's going to require a lot more work than the WA maps, which after resizing are actually only 2px shorter than the WormsDC mapsize.

In extracting the maps from WA and WWP, I've made a fun discovery: There's over 100 of the buggers! I've split them into separate categories.

There are some maps, particularly in WWP, that are for single-purpose gimmick missions and I'm honestly having a hard time deciding whether to include those or not. On one hand, the completionist in me thinks it's worth doing. On the other hand, you couldn't actually play a game on these maps.

I suspect I'll skip them.

after you complete this, do you plan on converting the other way? WA-to-WormsDC?

I've actually already done some of that, kind-of! I took the WormsDC version of the English speechbank and converted the files to .WAV, and that's been up to download on Dream17 for a while. I believe someone may have uploaded that here too (which some edits, it would seem - not too keen on that).

I also recreated the WormsDC gravestone, so I used that! Can't remember if I ever shared that one.

Converting the color maps the other way 'round is a neat idea. Some of the maps are just downscaled versions of maps from Worms United though, so it might be better to convert from there, TBH.

Quote from: Squirminator2k on February 08, 2021, 07:23 AM

I think they just repurposed the same sound effects they used in Worms Reloaded so I might be able to snag 'em from there, but blimey.

either WWPR or WRev, either way, they are indeed duplicates from some newer games

I'll have to do some digging. I checked Reloaded, but all of those sounds are compacted in a file format I'm too lazy to try and crack open. Honestly, I'm not particularly feeling a need to do the WWPR sounds, it was mostly a completeness' thing.

Do you love the wacky, cartoony terrains, maps and speechbanks of WA but wish you could experience them in a 1st-gen Worms game? Well, wish no more! Presenting S2K'S WA-to-WormsDC Conversion Project, which aims to take every single one of those lovely assets and downscale them for use in Worms: The Director's Cut on the Amiga.

As well as working to convert all of the 2nd-gen assets, I was also able to convert the two terrain styles that never made the jump from the PC version of the original Worms/Worms Utd. - CANDY and MONEY. These are also available to download.

CURRENT STATUS

• Speechbanks: 100% complete
• Terrains and Mountains: 100% complete
• WA Maps: 100% complete
• WA Screensaver Maps: 100% complete
• Worms World Party Maps - Single + Multiplayer Missions: 100% complete
• Worms World Party Maps - Training + Time Trials: 100% complete
• Worms United Maps: 0% complete - not yet begun

REQUIREMENTS

• An AGA Amiga - A1200, A4000, or an expanded CD32.
  
• Note that an accelerator board is likely required - these have not been tested on an unexpanded Amiga.
• WormsDC must be installed on the Amiga's hard drive - these files cannot be added to the floppy disk version.
• (Yes, these files work fine in an emulator - I recommend using the latest version of WinUAE in an AGA A1200 configuration with extra Fast RAM. The files will also work in FS-UAE and Amiga Forever.)

DOWNLOAD LINK

All completed assets are available in both .zip and .LhA format, and can be downloaded [here]


INSTRUCTIONS

• For the terrains and maps, simply unpack the archive into your WORMSDC drawer on your Amiga's hard drive.
• For the speechbanks, unpack the archive into your WORMSDC/TWSAMPLES drawer on your Amiga's hard drive.

CREDITS

• Original assets by Team17
• Worms United assets originally extracted by nizikawa
• Downscaling and conversion by Squirminator2k
• CONVERT (MS-DOS tool used to convert .WAV sounds to .IFF format) created by Jesus Villena
• Special thanks to Andy Davidson

ANY QUESTIONS?

Feel free to post any questions you may have in the thread below, I will do my best to answer them!

It's worth noting: Graphics extracted from WormsDC would be lower-quality than those same graphics extracted from Worms United. Utd utilized a single shared 256-color palette for its display, while WormsDC utilizes multiple smaller palettes per-layer to get to 300+ colors.

As a breakdown, DC uses 16 colors for the terrain - a palette it also shares with sprites, with the color of worms, grenades, crates and mines determined by color values in the terrain/map file. Then there's 16 colors for the first layer of mountains, then another 16 for the back layer. I suspect each layer of water also uses 16 colors apiece, but when creating a terrain you're only picking the base color of the water using RGB values, and it extrapolates the rest from there. Ditto the sky gradient.

Utd, meanwhile, has a fixed 256-color palette which is used across all of its terrains.

Old thread, but if anyone with coding/programming know-how wants to have a go at cracking open WormsDC's .DIY format then I'd be happy to send along some files.