Again, you make me say what I've never said Ram.

I said they deserve to die. But I'm human (maybe a lot more than many there), and I don't want to see them dead, even if they deserve it.
(Except for some, who really, really needs to be killed.)
I just want people to realise they act badly, so they can change to a better way (because I don't even think they can, I know it).
If they do realise but don't change, they are bad for the world and must die (and I'm sure one of you will misunderstood this one too ).

PS: Human is destroying the whole nature, the most he did was trying to kill it. You really thing the Nature would mind killing people ?
When people see a plant, most of a time he grabs a leaf and cut it, just for fun.
Have you ever think plants could get a mind too ?

PPS: If it continues well, we'll soon reach another axis of the life.

Quote from: DarkOne on February 27, 2011, 06:25 PM
Nature doesn't care about justice, therefore has nothing to say about who/what deserves something.
So it's your opinion and has nothing to do with nature.

Sure it's my opinion. And I do it for Nature's good. So yes, it has to do with that last, since I'm doing for it.

Btw, Fauna & Flora are a part of the Nature. So you can't just say "Nature doesn't care about justice", it's your point of view.
Except if you think that Human doesn't care neither about the justice, which would explains everything (and so they'd deserve to die).

Quote from: DarkOne on February 27, 2011, 06:25 PMI can only feel pity for this kind of world view though, makes everything in life seem so meaningless

There again, it's your point of view.
In fact, I'd like to say you're too young (mentality) cause you can't go further this "everything in life seem so meaningless".
You can get it and go ahead; But don't forget it, otherwise it would go worse.
Instead of simply whining/crying, just don't mind (to not get hurt) & fight for the improvment.

This last sentence is kindda contradictory, but I don't know how to tell it a different way.

Lol, I just answered on my previous post.
Nature maybe can't carry the justice, it won't change my statement.
Cause as I said, I'm not the Nature: I'm a human defending the Nature. (And as you said, justice is a human thing.)

Quote from: DarkOne on February 27, 2011, 05:28 PMPeople can be awesome

Yeah they can, but they most of the time suck.

Quote from: DarkOne on February 27, 2011, 05:28 PM
If you can't explain something clearly, then you don't really understand yourself. Just my experience in over 10 years of tutoring.

In many case maybe, but doesn't work for me. (And it doesn't work for many people, cause saw a lot of persons who weren't able to tell something greatly, whereas they understood it perfectly.)
I get a mental problem about it, it's totally different.
Plus I'm talking in English, and as you should have pointed it out, I'm not good with it. So sometimes, my sentences doesn't mean what I would like it to do.
So taking the 2 together, it makes a weird thing.


You're right Darkone, but I've never said I represented the Nature. Just cause nobody can.

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 27, 2011, 05:31 PMTowards this Earth/Nature, all humans deserve to die, that's a fact, you can't change it, whatever you wanna think of it.
Saying the contrary is just fleeing the reality.

I'm just talking from Nature side.


There again, you misunderstood.
Should I make a counter ?

Quote from: Ramone on February 27, 2011, 04:55 PMI know what are U trying to say, that the world is f@#!ed up cause humans f@#!ed it all up, that human race have become defective and warped.. Yes lots of them are, but saying that all humans deserves to die doesn't makes U any different from them. That's defective and warped point of view too.

I don't talk with Human at the center of the universe, but Nature/Earth or however you call it, as center.
Towards this Earth/Nature, all humans deserves to die, that's a fact, you can't change it, whatever you wanna think of it.
Saying the contrary is just fleeing the reality.
Maybe you just fear the death, so you prefer lying about it to feel better ? I don't really know, but all your words matches with this.
(And watch, I'm not saying you do so, I just tell it LOOKS LIKE. Which is a VERY f@#!ING DIFFERENT THING about what you do.)

About the posts, yeah I said I would stop, but if you had noticed, I also said what you pointed on my next posts.
After I wanted to stop talking, you guys made me say what I've never said, so I just clarified the situation (because I had to).
And for some, it was another subject, so there was nothing to do with pessimist/optimism subject.

Anyway, you still don't understand.
Why can I say so ? Cause you've been trying to repeat what I said as example for you argumentation, but the thing is what you think is what I said, is not.
Why can I say it's not ? Cause it's from me it, so I know better than no one what I said (at least meant, cause I know sometimes what I say and mean don't match together).
Why you're wrong ? Cause you again said "I understood you" where you didn't.

I'd like to discuss, but as you said: to discuss.
Plus, if you don't stop your lawyer argumentation, then please don't post anymore in this thread. Cause it doesn't make things advance. (Such as you did on half of your thread again.)

Quote from: Ramone on February 27, 2011, 04:55 PMAnd yes, it is pretentious to say that no one understand U. Teenagers do that often.. "no one understands me, bla-bla.."

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 27, 2011, 02:10 PM
And I just came to the conclusion there was no way to explain to you guys my real point of view and how I feel everything.
It's sad, 'cause you could learn a lot from there.

It sounds very pretentious, but it is the truth...

See ? When I say you don't understand me..

Quote from: Rok on February 25, 2011, 08:34 PMBeethoven was better also. Check his biography and tell me if a pessimist could handle a life he had.

I'd like to tell he was optimistic, but all he did was fighting against his own problems.
I don't know if he was pessimistic, but since he left the social life, he was all but optimistic. Which wasn't a problem for him to try to go against those problems.

Plus, I read a letter from him where he was talking about suicide (cause of his deaf problem), and where he whined about how he got sadly dealt by other people: he told the injustices, but didn't care much of them 'cause he knew and trusted himself where he was right.
In fact, it sounds like I'm a lot like him.

Anyway, I think nobody understood me. And I just came to the conclusion there was no way to explain to you guys my real point of view and how I feel everything.
It's sad, 'cause you could learn a lot from there.

It sounds very pretentious, but it is the truth...

Human has an incredible potential, you wouldn't even believe it if someone would tell you.
But most of them just whines about problems without even trying to do something. And it's there you lost everything.

If you're able to read between the lines, you would see I believe in the human himself, but not on the people we see nowadays.
I can't even call them humans anymore, they lost almost everything from it.
But it's not a reason for me to ruin my life. There is so much good things to see and enjoy on it, and I'll protect those ones, even if it means I have to be against the "world" himself, even if I have to sacrify myself.
"Un jour, la Terre et la Vie aura raison de vous."

PS: If I believed in God, I would call nowadays Humans, limbs of the devil.

PPS: Doesn't mean all of the humans are so bad: some people didn't forget who we were and what was our aim.
And I thank the Earth for this.

PPPS: I'm starting to believe someone or something is stopping me to make you get what I know, like if I weren't allowed to tell you this.
Just cause you all need to find it by yourself... (At least if you really want to.)

Quote from: Random00 on February 25, 2011, 08:17 PMI mean, if you have some reason for not helping me, then its ok. I can respect this.

Then do so.

PS: Just remember our last altercation. Your clanmate SPW was there too.
What you did wasn't so bad, but your behaviour pissed me off.

Quote from: dilligaf on February 25, 2011, 05:32 AM
You used Slipknot and 'talent' in the same sentence I am mortified.

ROFLMAO ! xD

+1

Not a new trick, but a nice one. .)

You're right.

To answer your question, I often say things which have a different meaning than what I mean. All this thinking It means what I want.
That's why I often write "I mean [...]", trying to be as much explicites as it can be.

"Best" means "Les plus grands" there, which isn't subjective in French.

Even if you do'nt like, you can recognize a very good musician.

Wasn't Mozart one ?

There is a difference between disagreeing and making me say what I've never said (that's lawyer strategy, already said it on a previous post).

(I said I would stopped talking there, but I had to clarify this.)

Quote from: Husk on February 23, 2011, 09:33 PM
best thread evar :DDDD

Paras thread koskaan ! Hän sanoi puhua vain suomea !

Awesome pic lol.

Now I surrender. Everytime a sentence is posted about myself, it's the total contrary of what I wrote.

A good stubborns band.

TheDogg, if had read, I'm in both, I'm having fun AND I complaint everytime about things which shouldn't be the way they are.
When I tell you you guys don't understand it, It's cause you really don't.

Dilligaf, best researchers were pessimist/realist.
Best musicians were pessimist.
And I'm sure there is more.  

Rok, you wouldn't say that if you knew me. I do it quite enough, more would be stupid (have you heard of moderation ?) .

Quote from: Husk on February 24, 2011, 08:40 AM
worst thread evar

Yeah, I start thinking the same.
Only blind people who wanna be right and don't even try to understand other people mind.
I guess people will never change.


Now I really am off this topic, I won't post anymore in it.
You still want to discuss ? Take my previous messages as a response to your future ones.
When you'll get them, you'll maybe stop saying bullshits.