I think the classic league is great, but Madog just showed one example of how a roper league could bring more activity and be successful.

Set the mine off before you hide.

But lets be respectful to Twy and stay on topic. K.

Quote from: GodiTo on December 21, 2010, 10:26 PM
I, personally say no too. TUS is as good as it is. Of course, some changes are always good, but why do everyone want to change everything? I mean everything, what it as good as it is? Ok, I understand your point, that some changes would be nice, also maybe a try would be ok, but I don't want.

EDIT : Let's do a TSL (TUS Shopper League)?

Your opinion has already been discussed in the previous 7 pages. This isn't changing tus, it is adding to it. Roper since the beginning of worms history has been the overall most popular scheme in league games. TEL is really popular right now and is a huge success. Its my opinion, that a roper league would be similarily successful.

Not to knock the shopper scheme or the people who love shopper, but, roper differs from shopper in many ways. Roper is the oldest and most classic scheme in tus, roper is picked more often then shopper. A roper league would encourage more oldschool wormers to play again. In my opinion roper is more deserving of its own league.

If you want a tus shopper league I suggest starting your OWN thread and poll and try to make it happen. A tus shopper league has nothing to do with this thread or this poll.

If you could give more input on your worries or your opinions on a roper league MI I think it would be very helpful moving forward with this. I believe your previous worries have already been settled.

Quote from: GodiTo on December 21, 2010, 09:59 PM
Imagine, Twyrfher, there's a worm sprite before the plophole. I'm not sure, you can plop your opponent's worm, through that sprite, to the hole, with Bazooka. Actually you are right about how often do you need. Also you are right, Petrol is tactic, but you could agree with me, that it can ruin a game. There are always new situations where you need to do your best, and there will be always new situations. You don't even know, when will you need that Fire Punch (and it can cause you will say : "Oh f@#!, no Fire Punches in crates, f@#! you, asdasdsadas, huashua).

P.S: Oh and by the way, if my opponent doesn't want to play with infinite Bazooka?

Don't hide where you can get petrol'd and lose your turn. If someone knocks you or attacks you and sends you somewhere where you can be blocked by petrol then its a good strategy.

I'm trying to keep it friendly, definitely holding things back and not saying everything I would like too lol

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on December 21, 2010, 06:35 PM
There are very fewer people who like to play a roper league and imo they are mostly ex-w2 wormers. Like you or TitiO.

And I don't think adding another league to our 3-league collection would be such a good idea, unless we change TEL to TRL (Rotated league) where we could change the scheme time to time, but I'll be assassinated by Elite-freaks as soon as I change Elite.

Hopefully he puts a little more thought into it now that it has been debated.

Why do I even bother

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on December 21, 2010, 06:35 PM
I never said if this poll is gonna make the Roper league.

Could you expand on this further please?

Edited out

Quote from: HHC on December 20, 2010, 12:37 PM
less skillful!

The tiny bits of fd you get when you strategically make a worm bounce against a wall are negligent. The only FDs that really matter are the ones you get when you fall on top of the map. If you multiply the FD such a fall would be fatal (it already takes a huge chunk of your energy), whereas falling three or four times on the bottom of the map wouldn't have any real consequences. It would be a matter of being lucky not to fall in the wrong places.

If you never fall and keep on hitting, there's no reason to worry about losing a game as it is right now IMO.


edit: as Komo says, it's only interesting when both players hit 100% of the time, which is like never, certainly not on a mablak.

Its not about falling and doing damage to yourself but having the skill to attack the other worm and get fall damage. If fall damage was slightly higher and if in 8 turns you get 6 fall damage every turn, you can make up a full attack and do 47 extra damage. So you can  make up for an  attack you missed or take the lead by an attack.

I don't know how you can argue that more fd wouldn't add more skill.

Quote from: DeSCoKh on December 21, 2010, 03:39 PM
No :/

Nice first post. Who are you and why are you even voting?

Tony G is the greatest, get on your bike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aOaZrRTIpA&NR=1

If people are playing wxw on maps with plops then yea, baseball should be in the sets. But most of the games I've played is on maps where there are no plops. Picking up a bat is a major disadvantage when your opponent is picking up sheeps and dynos all game long.