I take the time to write up an idea for a rule, which makes nothing but sense and try to explain why it would be a good idea and I get smited. I'm done posting on tus.

Quote from: DarkOne on July 07, 2011, 05:45 PM

Quote from: Dub-c on July 07, 2011, 11:41 AM

Quote from: DarkOne on July 07, 2011, 06:10 AM
We're saying we can't enforce rules against avoiding.

Why not lol?

because *literally repeats his first post on the second page of this thread*.

link.
Your sarcasm isn't appreciated. I think its easily enforced. Its was inforced on W2 and there was only one mod there.

I've wasted to much time on this thread already I'm done with it.

ET's definitely. Intelligent? Who knows

Quote from: DarkOne on July 07, 2011, 06:10 AM
We're saying we can't enforce rules against avoiding.

Why not lol?

If you don't approve of noob bashing then whats the big problem?

I'm just glad that everyone approves of noob bashing and avoiding. That should definitely be allowed in tus and noway should we ever try to make a rule to try to make sure that it does not happen. 

Funny, when Random made the thread about the guy that was only playing easy games and challenged him to play 10 games everyone was all over that other guys ass for being an avoider and a noob basher.

Not that you are not entitled to you opinion Des but I don't think this thread was really made for you. You've played a grand total of 3 seasons of tus and 4 clan games. Don't see why you feel so strongly that this rule should not be implemented.

I really don't think noob bashing and avoiding is a big problem on tus, however, if it did become a big problem there should be rules in place to stop it and also discourage it.

Hopefully some people who have been a little more active in leagues throughout the years will give some opinions and suggestions.

Unless you are a noob basher this rule should not have any effect on you.

Mreh I'm done

Ok, I completely get what you are saying. This rule will not effect you, however, if someone only plays people he is guaranteed to beat and finishes every season in first, do you think this should be allowed. What if 10 or 20 people started doing this? Do you not think that perhaps this might be a good idea to have a rule in place just in case this  happens?

Mr. McClane both our spots are set. I would love to play the games just because I love to play elite but I don't see it happening. Sorry to you and everyone else that was in the tournament especially Nino. I should not have joined the tournament. All I've been is a hassle.

Quote from: JohnMcClane on July 06, 2011, 07:45 PM
nail vs. me played!
nice games man!


dub when have you time?

1 AM GMT and  later tonight and tomorrow.

Quote from: Professor on July 06, 2011, 07:21 PM
lol amigo that is fcking crazy

I have some personal rules that is most important than TUS: Example:

NO PLAY WITH BAD PERSONS.

If i ask in AG tel ne1, and Doubletime answer me, i decline.

Each person must to set what ppl He want to play.

Absolutely, I will not play doubletime either. If he made a complaint against me I would just explain to the mods that all he does is insult me during games so I don't play him. The mod will obviously agree I'm not avoiding him. Ignorant and insulting people obviously lose the right to complain about people not playing them. They brought that on themselves.

Although if I could just pick to play only the people I choose and only choose to play people who I can easily beat is this right? Should this be allowed? Not everyone cares about their "reputation" enough to follow rules and be proper.

SPW is also right. This rule is mostly common sense and would only come into fruition during extreme circumstances.

For 99% of people on tus this changes nothing.

However for that 1% and in extreme circumstances there is no rule and there needs to be one in my opinion.

The mods are not stupid and can take everything into consideration.

Quote from: Rok on July 06, 2011, 06:24 PM

Quote from: Dub-c on July 06, 2011, 06:20 PM
If I ask someone to tus and they say they don't feel like it, they are not avoiding. Now if they wait until I found a tus and hosted then they themselves asked if anyone wanted to tus they would be avoiding.

Agreed. But there's no way you can prove that someone does it.

You can keep snooper active if you believe someone is doing this. Of course people are going to come back after being inactive in AG and ask for a tus after another person has asked for a tus but it would have to be an ongoing theme of someone not playing better people and waiting for them to find a game before asking "tus anyone" or asking people in private.

Again I don't think this is a huge problem in the league, Franz just asked me to post a rule and get opinions since I am against people avoiding other people.

Quote from: ROp3Rz on July 06, 2011, 06:18 PM
that means u can't play TUS just with friends? is obligation to play against everyone even if that player u don't like?

That is exactly what it means in my opinion. Its a league and if you are going to play in a league you have to be willing to play anyone in the league.

Should FC Barcelona be able to play in their soccer league and pick and choose who they play?

Not saying you can not play your friends, just can't avoid playing other people and only play your friends. You can always play a funner with your friends if you don't want to play in the league.

If you feel so strongly that you don't like someone and don't want to play them and you are accused of avoiding them, then I think your reasoning could be taken into account in the complaint.

Quote from: Desetroyah on July 06, 2011, 06:16 PM

Quote from: Dub-c on July 06, 2011, 06:13 PM

Quote from: Desetroyah on July 06, 2011, 06:03 PM
In a first glance I say its impossible to implement-determine when avoiding actually takes place :S

Imagine good (in players) clans seeing a weaker clan asking for clanner and then they say "no". Bigger clans can do that to make weaker clans' scores less and remain easily first. Its like Capitalism for tus-ing

PS: and say someone avoids, who will be witnesses? will the other clan start asking random ppl on TUS to confirm someone "avoided" or we gonna take their word for it . No way to implement man

Screenshots, chat logs, etc etc

well I understand competitive clans would like that but I can see other ppl finding it too "serious" if you know what I mean. Its worms man we have enough rules as it is, this is like trying to put the game into a straight-jacket "YOU WILL PLAY NOW CAUSE YOU SAID IT" kinda thing

gl though, I'm just saying an opinion

You have your right to that opinion and there is nothing wrong with what you are saying. I don't believe this is a huge issue, but, there is no rules on it and I believe there should be rules in place.

As for too many rules and people thinking a penalty for avoiding is too "serious", they are playing in a competitive league and no one is forcing them to play in the league or even playing a tus game if they don't want to. If I ask someone to tus and they say they don't feel like it, they are not avoiding. Now if they wait until I found a tus and hosted then they themselves asked if anyone wanted to tus they would be avoiding.

Quote from: Desetroyah on July 06, 2011, 06:03 PM
In a first glance I say its impossible to implement-determine when avoiding actually takes place :S

Imagine good (in players) clans seeing a weaker clan asking for clanner and then they say "no". Bigger clans can do that to make weaker clans' scores less and remain easily first. Its like Capitalism for tus-ing

PS: and say someone avoids, who will be witnesses? will the other clan start asking random ppl on TUS to confirm someone "avoided" or we gonna take their word for it . No way to implement man

Screenshots, chat logs, etc etc

Quote from: Husk on July 06, 2011, 06:03 PM
so if u ask tus and I say "sorry no time", then I should get penalized?

Ofcourse not, I thought avoiding was pretty obvious and self explanatory but I guess I will have to elaborate.

Feel free to help out or elaborate.