Quote from: Dulek on July 09, 2012, 03:34 PM
It's awesomely fast, but damn hard to control. Nice bit (xD), Flori.

I have to be damn warm to do this. I'm playing now and suck hardcore.

Don't see why half of posts talk about FR and playing guitar. I posted a fast way of scroll and asked what you think about it. Who cares if I FR or play guitar or whatsoever.

Lol its nothing like me he just over tap scroll parts making him slower. The way i do im trying to get the faster possible and must use those taps. I compared to some replays i'm doing flies without taps (1 tap in middle of scroll, then 1 tap to bounce, 1 tap in middle, 1 tap to bounce etc..) and 1st way is faster.

But well, good laugh seeing the computer screen tho Adding the fact that I was thinking "lol this is maciej" and saw the title after xD (also how he tries fastly to press f8 xDD remembers me. Tx keychange im not doing this anymore  

Edit : Kaleu lol nice one.

I've been trying for a few days to scroll in stairs the faster possible (or almost) pressing up the most I can.
I managed to do it successfully once only ^^ Don't know if i'll be able to handle it a day but i find it amazing
From 13:30 to 13:35. Short but hell fast.
Don't watch the complete replay, u'll get bored quickly because i fall everytime.
What do you think ?

w2roper schemes seems cool

Quote from: Peja on July 08, 2012, 04:31 PM
roper: scheme of avirex ftw, check the several topics for reasons.

where can i find this schemes ?

Well done DarkOne
The Whole 14 pages weren't so useless, they made me change my ideas little by little by reading argumnts of each one.
This is how i see it now :

T17 : Remove from classic league if there is no changes.
Change the schemes is of course a better idea because this schemes could be really better. I used to enjoy a lot T17 years ago.

Hysteria : Change the scheme. (like 5sec sd, put select worm or something else).

Shopper : Same as t17. Remove it from Classic league of change the schemes.

Intermediate in Classic league. About point system as Rdm00 said, why not.

Big RR : Still think it should be 1 more schemes of classic league.

TTRR : Don't change anything.

Btw I don't see Komo in any proposition. Shows how useless his comments are.

I THINK EVERYONE INTERESTED ON THE TOPIC SHOULD DO A LIST LIKE THIS SO WE COULD KNOW WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK.

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Without no early and mid game there would be no end-game

We learned something today. Without start there is no end.

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you can use your early/mid turns to gain/destroy territory.

I got it now, the goal of early and mid hysteria game is to f@#! the map so end game you cant hide and its fair bng fight without cheated hide.

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Next.

No comment.

Yeah like start of game, i try a boucing grenade and it comes back to my face. My worm get ploped.
"Damn it what a fool". 2secs after : "Oo its hysteria, nvm, i'll telepile and get an advantage".
Can't stand anymore argumenting with this guy.
I told most of my thoughts about the schemes and posted my arguments, i've nothing more to say this is just a loss of time talking with you Komo. Your arguments are : I'm good, I'm pro, I'mm bng lover, I'm a bluffer..
If we get back at the start of the topic and start quoting you, we'd have 2 lines about why bng is competitive, 500 lines about ur skills and some CUTE sentences like "People wants to change things about w;a because they are unhappy in their lifes" "Hysteria is like Poker". I forgot the 15 others.

About the schemes, we should try in fact to change some thing, and test it. The worm select idea could be really good. Changing sd to 5 secs maybe too.
If you guys wanna try things i'm here to test with you.

Jusr saw last pages :
Komo you are really ridiculous.
I maybe don't agree with ou, peja, chicken and MI but at least they put arguments. You just tell us shit about how good you are, that it is similar to poker etc.

Btw, if forcing SD is not an advantage mostly, are we supposed to bng for 1 hour 80% of games to get the luckyshotgg ?
All my hysts I put myself in danger because I can't last 1 hour on doing those boring shots, so I try to force SD or I get an easy hide for my opponent.
This is so f@#!ing no sense. If both players want very hard to win, they won't force SD and they won't get easy hides. Yeah a competitive schemes that last 1 hour to wait the luckyshotgg.
No joke komo like hyst, he is one of the only guys that don't care playing bng 1 hour on evil hides.
This is why you think hyst is fair.
And don't talk about ur early and mid tactics and bluffs that are so good, this is bullshit.
i enjoy playing hysteria until it comes to the 1v1 end. I already know this is a luckyshotgg fight and don't want to sit and be bored in a hardcore bng fight.

Good that someone like Shyguy is giving all the point why hysteria isn't good for league.
I was trying to tell this, but my english is too poor ;P
Thx shy.
This sentence is really important and true : If you play like gold it becomes 1v1, if you play like trash it becomes 1v1...
Also this one
Is it really so hard to understand that there are no other viable options to this than teleport-after-teleport-until-someone's-bored or zook-your-ass-off-until-nothing's-left-of-the-map?

Honestly reducing the SD time to 3-5 could be a good option I think. At least if you played better at start and mid game you can throw SD quickly and have an advantage.

And God doesnt exist.

Dulux, i looked my 2 examples and ur replays, 1st swoosh = -0.30s, and 2nd replay with climb+bounce = -0.90s
Long fly to the "plop-scroll" over the word barman probably win 0.30s, and also gives a better speed to start the scroll.
Probably the end you can win 0.70 s also without bounce and double shadow.
Tell you guys 22-23.

P.S : How can i have the patience to play and play and play when most of my replays look like this 2012-07-07 13.04.09 [Online] @ps`Flori-rrA.WAgame

Its only fast if one of both opponents take a bit of risk to get hit. Both player can just get amazing hides and never hit and game will last 1 hour. I never played a 1 hour hyst too, because i'm bored and i get a noob hide so game is over quickly. Im not interested in playing 30 mins throwing zook/molotov.
Without this part of hyst, i really enjoy the game, but this is just so lame i hate it.
It would be so better if you could throw sd after 3-5 secs and not 10.

Quote from: Dulek on July 06, 2012, 10:10 PM
You know how hard is that shit you showed in both replays, Flori? Nobody would actualy try do it since it takes way too much time to mix with perfect roping in the rest of the map. You're just showing some parts that can be improved with, I dunno, 10% of success? The last scrolling part and the elevator is crucial in this map, I don't really care about the start as it's nearly perfect in what I'm  doing and you're just looking for improvements on your own that don't really suit challenges with its difficulty

edit: If I hadn't f@#!ed up the end of the map I would have 23 easily.

1st trick isnt so hard, about 2nd, yes this is hard to bounce after the fly, but dunno, i think its rly helpfull to win millisecs. I'll always try to do the faster way if i judge its not too risky (or we should do kicks and pumps everytime lol).
I don't think its too risky. And i'm sure someone can beat your time using those 2 tricks and having a small mistake somewhere on the map ;p So worth the try ^^
For example the reverse spike as said cue is for me too hard to do and not worth it ;p

P.S : Thats maybe why I can't any record xD I wanna do too hard

I have already 150 trl ttrr impossible not to play twice the same map.
Still 20 days and i will maybe have 250 trl games at this moment.
Maybe a rule like "you can use the same map only 1 on 100 trl games". That's only 1/100..

And btw in rr we start to know every map .. So fairly i shouldn't play 1 game of trl.