Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 11:19 AM

Quote from: Free on June 26, 2012, 11:18 AM

I understand how you feel about climbing Overall and no way I'm dissing that but if you really take a good read from the start of the thread, many people don't really give enough credit for mm just because we are not uber serious about Overall, that's what was annoying me. It seriously ain't easy to win 3 in a row, ask CF.

Yeah well have a go at the people saying that not me lol

Well you did say that in the 1st post, but you made yourself more clear on previous posts.

So should we make a poll about this?

Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 11:08 AM
I don't understand why you see it that way, I think I have been pretty clear about what I have said, all I can say is sorry you don't see it from my point of view.

My main point of this thread, is to give credit to all the clans who are getting stronger in overall, you know what overall means obviously.

When me and oldsock joined cFc we were 4th overall and our climb to the top has been a long and emotional road with some really caring and fun people, and we have maintained #1 for some time now after a year of switching between 1st/2nd with CF, they haven't overtook us again for about 2-3 months maybe more, and I feel that our glory isn't noticed due to the fact you guys have won the last 3 PO's and act like PO's are the ONLY thing worthy of bragging rights.

ps mm and CKC have all climbed alot in the last year as well, I remember when mm CKC and ps were way behind, and I just think this is cool and should be recognised more, and be proud about.

I understand how you feel about climbing Overall and no way I'm dissing that but if you really take a good read from the start of the thread, many people don't really give enough credit for mm just because we are not uber serious about Overall, that's what was annoying me. It seriously ain't easy to win 3 in a row, ask CF.

Like I said, I really admire how excited you are about this game and at no point I wanted to get an personal argument about this.

Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 10:54 AM
You are starting to play just as well in the overall standings as CF and cFc, did I say something wrong?

Your win % has went up, as has ps's and CKC's, which means, you are getting better.

Again, did I say something wrong?

I don't feel like I have put them in different categories, I feel like I've put them all in the same category actually...

Now your just straight out lying but yeah you can twist this around as much as you want.. take a look at the previous 4 pages to see that mm really doesn't get the respect it deserves. We have never said we're better than all the other clans but this thread made it seem like we don't even belong to the top.

Quote from: Flori on June 26, 2012, 10:39 AM
You guys are too serious, like really too serious, when it's WORMS.. Small community, no money at the end.
We are just playing for fun and yes, its a league, yes its competition, but u won't win anything at the end

So.. if you don't get anything materialistic from winning a competition, the competition is pointless?

I guess this is what our spending culture has driven us. I'm fairly sure most of us "serious" players just play for the sake of the competition and excecuting something we are good at. It's more of a mental attitude.

Anyways..

I agree it's f@#!ed up if you win when you actually had the worse time.. especially in clanners. Something should be done with this, imo.

Straight quote from your 1st post:

"but now mm ps and CKC are starting to get just as good"

You know what this implies do you? Your saying we are STARTING to get just as good as CF and cFc.

We've been as good for long time mate. I understand ur enthusiasm about worms and it's great but don't let it blind you.

Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 10:35 AM
Shutup free, you are talking pish mate, no one even said what you said.

Why do I need to shutup again? Take a look at your own post count.

No one used the "exact same words" that I did, but when you start placing CF and cFc to different category than mm, your not being REALISTIC.

Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 10:30 AM

Quote from: ShyGuy on June 26, 2012, 10:21 AM
I disagree with this based off of the fact that clanners are 2v2...

Fair enough, we'll just agree to disagree on this one, I really can't be bothered it's not important enough to try and convince you.

You always say the same thing when you realize you had nothing solid to even start with.

It just sounds ridicilous and jealous to my ear to start saying that a clan who's won 3 in a row doesn't belong to the top. Absurd.

Quote from: Flori on June 26, 2012, 10:08 AM
Free : I guess we can not evaluate ur team lvl them. As you dont play clanners on 100% and as mablak is mainly the reason of your team winning POs.. We dont know mm lvl

Sheesh. Ain't Mablak in mm? You guys make it look like it's Mablak and mm. We have very very strong allrounders so c'mon cut the crap already. Our roping line-up is as strong as anybodys even without Mablak.. we would have very devastating BnG without Mablak also.

Maybe you guys should actually watch our PO games to see that Mablak is a human being and not a God. We have really strong allrounders which all have their own special schemes. Mablak just owns at every scheme.. (except Hysteria xD) but when we bring our specialists, the difference ain't really that big.

Why don't you guys shit all over CF and Random then? Every clan has their player that is overall better than anybody else in the clan.

Quote from: Peja on June 26, 2012, 09:48 AM
Avirex says:


seems like alot of haters on mm, wtf... are we the new miami heat and mablak is lebron? seems that way...  i hope that does not make me chris bosch hahaha


SPW, you say we are nothing in PO without Mablak? i feel the same way about CF without Random...

and if it came down to those 2 great influences out of the competition, i honestly think mm would come out on top... so whats your point?


and komo: mm does not sit and wait for the perfect line up for clanners....  like cfc and CF does...  i hardly see clanners played by cfc without dainub, and artic present, and CF seems like they wont clanner unless they have 4+ members online...


mm clanners whenever the hell, vs who ever the hell, with whoever the hell.....

ill be in AG with just me and neptune publicly asking for clanners, do we have a chance in ground schemes? prolly not... do we have a chance in ttrr? not yet (give him another week or so ;p )

but we still compete.... mm has won 3 playoffs in a row and you can give all the credit to mablak despite if its always deserved (he said himself he was outplayed by all his mates in the last playoffs, the key player in each game was his mate not him) and disscredit the rest of mm all you want... but id rather be in a clan with big balls, then big overall stats Grin and mm has the big balls of wnet!  just ask peja :p

Yeah Avi pretty much said it all. The biggest thing you guys don't seem to understand is that we do NOT take regular seasons even close to as seriously as we could, that's why I feel Overall ain't the correct way to judge us.. it just doesn't reflect reality.

Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2012, 07:42 AM
I totally just disagree with everything you said at me Free, I just see things differently and have a different opinion from you, so whetever lol.

Now this might look like I think mm sucks or something which is the complete opposite, they always have and always will continue to impress and inspire me for certain reasons, but anyway here:

I don't feel mm are as strong as you think in clanners, where you consider "winning the PO" as the only thing that matters, regardless of how they managed to do this and the circumstances, I feel the complete opposite, IMO mm's 3 strongest schemes in the playoffs are BnG, TTRR, Elite, BnG only because Mablak taught Barman to notch, your competition for BnG is at an advantage because of notching, soon when others know how to notch, this won't be as easy for you, I honestly feel cFc had good chance of winning if I wasn't such a fussy twat and gave away the BnG cuz I didn't wanna play lame at 1st and then quit, and I didn't want to play Hysteria either and imo me/daina are cFc's best Hysteria team, so that's 2 schemes already you won easy, you don't have to care or agree with it, but just think about that, and remember it.

TTRR I feel is pretty much equal when mm's and cfc's top TTRR players are at their best, sometimes Mablak gets 4/5 seconds faster than most so that may give them the edge, but in Clanners, live, he's more human than in the challenges.

All other schemes I feel would just go 50/50 because of things like luck/who starts etc, look how well eS done against mm, they lost 3-2, that's only 1 game from winning...

ps, CKC, CF, cfc could all win PO just as "easily" as mm, this is why I feel "overall" is more important to me personally, even if Mablak was as active as the rest of us, I still feel the standings would pretty much be the same because it's still 2v2/3v3 games and not everyone is Mablak or Random or ArtiC lol.

Yea whatever man, I know every top clan could win the playoffs.. but they haven't in past 3 seasons because we have. It's simple like that, drop the excuses.

eS got close because I lost the T17 for us (shot myself when I was making the winning move, it would be 3-0) and then they got the hysteria. Man I just hate hysteria.

Quote from: SPW on June 25, 2012, 09:13 PM
I'm 100% sure that mm wont win any of the three finals without mablak.

Way to shit all over mm with just one sentence. Yes, he's our biggest asset, which he would be in any clan he would be in. CF has Random and blah blah...

Anyways.

Talking about old times vs now: skill level is definately bigger, people would make a huge fuss about VolcoM since he roped almost flawlessly (no falls and made pretty much all doable cr8s) and flawless playing nowadays is default thing to do if your pr0. Defaults.. well no need to go there.

Competition when considering activity was at highest on WACL times in my opinion, but when skill-level and activity both are taken into consideration I'd say it was during FB times when dt dominated.. in my opinion naturally.. it's only opinions. Total skill level is naturally highest nowadays.. you learn more the more you play. Simple.

Random is avoiding him.

xD

I remember BoG also! Really cool guy.

Heres LiH's website I made back in the day: http://web.archive.org/web/20050525064135/http://www.lihclan.com/

Good job man. You broke Random's +40 winning streak record.

I'm so proud of you. You keep improving really fast.