Quote from: Senator on January 26, 2017, 04:44 PM
Quote from: TheWalrus on January 26, 2017, 04:10 PM
if you hadnt noticed, there isnt really any new players, but yeah, lets make the league more inaccessible to those players.
Were the previous leagues before TUS inaccessible to new players?
Quote from: TheWalrus on January 26, 2017, 04:10 PM
if anything, this league needs to adapt to what is popular on wormnet, not go the opposite direction. mole shopper should be added to classic league before hysteria is removed. and i dont like mole shopper one f@#!ing bit.
Afaik, Shopper and Intermediate are the most popular schemes on WormNet. I rarely see Hysteria games being hosted (correct me if I'm wrong).
Supersheeper is more popular than all of those.
Yet you can't put it in classic league because it'd be a complete mess (or would it just be annoying for the elitist players?)
Also...
Schemes aren't similar. Hysteria is probably the least complex scheme in the list right now, simply because of the tactics that have been going around for a good while. What's the challenging part of plopping your own worms? Where's the difficulty in flying a jetpack 40m high then dropping your worm for free turn advantage plus +25 grave damage? How can you compare those with any kind of tactic in Elite?
At the same time (I'm sure this is the thought), where's the difficulty in axe'ing every first turn, then using shotgun? Nothing of that. Elite is way more than that. Late game Hysteria is reduced to tossing petrols from ridiculous distances, or tricky BnG shots. Nothing compared with turn order, rope range, homing usage, etc etc etc.
This discussion is really pointless. How many times do you see newcomers try TTRR? Compare it to the times newcomers try Hysteria. Which one is more noob friendly? WHY is it more noob friendly? Why do people like playing Supersheeper? Because it's simple.
Quote from: TheKomodo on January 26, 2017, 03:29 PM
The whole world revolves around less than a dozen players?
Yes probably, that's the amount of players that play the league actively
Why are you talking about "noob friendly" schemes after all? I play newcomers mostly, I try to teach them the rules and some rope tricks and stuff, tell them about schemes. But there have been so little times I've seen someone say "I wanna play leagues". Are newcomers interested in leagues at all?