Quote from: avirex on November 13, 2011, 11:43 PM
no offence but....
how many times does MI have to say this will all be fixed in tus 2.0? :X
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Quote from: avirex on November 13, 2011, 11:43 PM
no offence but....
how many times does MI have to say this will all be fixed in tus 2.0? :X
Quote from: Peja on November 11, 2011, 04:26 PMQuote from: DarkOne on November 11, 2011, 03:34 PM
Guaton, if you're going to read my post, be sure to read all of itQuote from: DarkOne on November 10, 2011, 11:06 PM
If you're not the host, clearly, you don't have to agree with the map. We don't want an unending fight about the map though: suggest your own map to move things along. If you are being unreasonable with your own map request, then the host is entitled to a free win because you'd basically be refusing to play his pick. Make an effort to agree on a map. If you light up, then that means you agree on the settings (scheme and map). If the host refuses to change map after you request another map, remind him of this rule. If he still refuses to change the map, then there's nothing more you can do. You can quit the game. If the host reports a free win, just make a thread on the complaint forum and attach the chatlog from the game lobby (in your User/Logs folder).
i still dont get the sense if it. if someone refuses a map because the map dont fit to him /her the host will obviously put a map in the same style again. so this rule is basicly to avoid "mapwhoring"
this is something i cant support, cause we never got a useful dicussion about it.
for example:
- someone plays all shopper picks ona classic style shopper map like LL.
i cant see any problem there, like i wrote in the complaint, these maps are that easy that he simply cant get any advantage from palyin it every time.
- wxw lets take a look on dienadel, he almost plays the same map over and over but noone complains about it. the reason is simple, his map is a good one and challenging.
i guess its not a matter how many times you play on a map in general. maybe we should look on this case from each scheme differently.
i just dont see why we need to change anything here. when i look on the complaints, some are based simply on having fun in denouncing players. and you give them the feeling they were right in doing this.
someone wrote in the savage topic: "it worked, lets make topics for the others now"
the result would be same if someone just asked savage in the lobby to change his maps, he would done it. but hey, its always more fun to make it public and punch someone in the face.
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Quote from: Peja on November 10, 2011, 11:16 PM
seriously wtf is this? you allow people to blockade maps without any reason? and all because some dumbasses used strange maps to play? can u pls explain whats the reason for this? if its to avoid maps like played from pizzasheet vs ray then its very poor try. imo its a huge intervention to the freedom of the hoster. the goal should be to break the opponets pick knowing they obviously try to gain profit from their pick.
Quote from: Ray on November 10, 2011, 11:21 PM
This rule existed before Peja, that both parties have to agree on the map.
Quote from: Peja on November 10, 2011, 11:34 PMQuote from: DarkOne on November 10, 2011, 11:23 PM
Peja - There are hundreds of maps, thousands for some (probably most) schemes. Are you seriously saying that if you're playing your pick and your opponent refuses 1 or 2 of the maps you pick that's the ultimate breakdown of your freedom? That's only true if you only have 2 maps. I'm certain you have more than that.
If you're playing me (I don't play TUS singles, but just for the sake of argument) and I'm blatantly refusing to play any map you suggest, then that means I'm refusing to play your pick. And the game lobby logs will show that.
Also, what Ray said. We just decided to make an official announcement about this, since a couple of complaints were popping up
somehow i cant find this rule on the league rules, anyway cant find your quote now d1, but you posted something like: as there are no technical problems with the map, we make no limatations. so why is someone allowed to refuse playin on a map?
Quote from: DarkOne on November 10, 2011, 11:09 PM
A topic was made regarding map choices (because a couple of complaints were made).
As long as there are no technical problems with the map (crates spawning in unreachable spots, stuff like that), we don't give any restrictions on the map being played on.
It's your own responsibility to play on a good map!
Quote from: DarkOne on November 10, 2011, 11:06 PM
A couple of complaints have made it to our complaints forum, so there are a couple of things that need to be cleared up:
Summary:
- Both players/clans need to agree on the map
The map is something that has to be agreed on by both players/clans. If you (the host) don't change the map when your opponent(s) says he/she/they don't want to play on that map, then your pick will not happen.
...suggest your own map to move things along. If you are being unreasonable with your own map request, then the host is entitled to a free win because you'd basically be refusing to play his pick. Make an effort to agree on a map. If you light up, then that means you agree on the settings (scheme and map). If the host refuses to change map after you request another map, remind him of this rule. If he still refuses to change the map, then there's nothing more you can do. You can quit the game.
