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#1111
yeh, but the fact is that the system said I placed 20th, when I actually placed in 4th.

I should be moved to 4th in the standings.

The fact is, PO spots 1 3 5 and 7 will all be in the corresponding places in the standings. As overall ratings are used for PO spots 2 4 6 and 8, they could be anywhere else in the standings.

To qualify for a 2, 4, 6, or 8 spot, your overall rating must be high, and you must play the minimum number of games and play well.

The only reason you are shown lower in the standings is because you earn a lot less points per win, and lose a lot more for losses.

To put it simply what im saying is,

Once a player has qualified for a PO spot, he should move to that spot in the standings.

On my stats it says I finished 20th in season 9, look on the season 9 PO page and it says "I positioned 4th".

I did finish in 4th, as ive said before, the top 8 players from each season. So, qualifying as 4th I have "theoretically, according to a fair system" played better than the 16 people above me, as im shown in the standings to be in 20th. It should see that I have qualified for 4th place, and so move me to 4th place in the standings to reflect this!
#1112
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/members-stats/NAiL/

You can look at stats for every tus player, I like this feature but theres a problem with one thing in particular.

You see the bit where it says where you finish each season.

For me it says things like in season 9 I finished in in 20th place.

This is true I finished 20th in that season, but I qualified for 4th spot because of my overal rating. I had higher winning percentages than many of the people "above" me in the standings.

The top 8 players are selected for playoffs at the end of each season. If I qualified for 4th spot, then it means that my overall performance was better than 16 of the players who are placed higher than me on the standings.

Now I know that the standings display players in order of their seasonal ratings. This is not good, seeing as the true ratings of a player are the long term ones. The better you play each  season, the harder it is to place "higher" in the standings. Although yes you can still get a playoff spot, you could be on the 3rd page of the standings despite having higher winning percentages than the people above you.

Think about it, if you played perfectly every season and never lost a game, then you would have an extremely high overall rating and you'd only gain 1 point for a win. You could play 200 games a season, win all of them, but only increase your rating by 200 points. You'll be able to make the playoffs in 2ND spot each season, but you'd be on the 4th or 5th page of the standings, merely because you've only been winning 1 point per game. This isnt a fair reflection of your performance.


Solution:

The system needs to consider both ratings. It needs to understand that if a player is eligable for a PO place that is higher in the standings than his seasonal rating, it will place him in the higher position in the standings.

Just keep the first 8 places in the standings as PO spots once a player meets the requirements.

Look back at the example I gave of the perfect player. Once he has reached the 50 game minimum, it says "Oh, his seasonal rating is only 1050 and so although there are 127 people with higher seasonal ratings than him, he has the highest overall rating and so qualifies as 2nd best player in the season. I shall move him to the 2nd place spot in the standings.

So on my stats it wouldn't say I finished 20th for season 9, it would say I finished in 4th, which I did. Random would be shown in 2nd place now, instead of 20th, which he deserves to be as his winning percentages are higher than many above him and also has a high overall rating.

So my problem isnt that the system doesnt work, its the way information is displayed. The way it currently is, someone who wins 60 games a season and loses none will drop lower and lower in the standings as his overall rating increases over time, this doesnt accurately reflect his performance season after season.

Hope you understood all that, its quite simple really!
#1113
TUS Discussion / Re: Poker room in TUS?
February 03, 2010, 11:55 PM
oh my a poker function on tus for tus users to play each other, thats a great idea!

even just for play money, you could limit re-buys to like 5 per season. This way players would have to play well, for the honour and the prize of being number 1 at the end of the season!

would it be hard to create a function like this? Stats and stuff about each player would be great!
#1114
Leagues General / Re: [Poll]AFR in shopper?
February 03, 2010, 07:55 PM
NO AFR!

Adds another dynamic, allows for a greater range of attacks, allows for accuracy on things like dyna drops to.

ALTHOUGH having the AFR does make the game somewhat more challenging as you need to make more time to set up attacks on rope and so need to rope faster and more consistantly.
#1115
Announcements / Re: Arcade games added.
February 02, 2010, 08:58 PM
Can you do it MI?

Im only playing minigames as my comps broken, when its fixed ya'll catch me in AG again soon!
#1116
Announcements / Re: Arcade games added.
February 02, 2010, 09:14 AM
this is a great tower defence game, could you put it up?

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/466669
#1117
TUS Discussion / Re: Yo
February 02, 2010, 09:10 AM
sup hoe
#1118
Announcements / Re: Arcade games added.
February 02, 2010, 12:33 AM
Can you put any game on there or do they have to be of a certain format?

I mean can I link you to a game on a website and you put it on? Im dumb pls explain.
#1119
Announcements / Re: Arcade games added.
January 31, 2010, 04:53 AM
Great job MI!

#1120
Leagues General / Re: Winning Streaks
January 31, 2010, 04:18 AM
indeed ^
#1121
TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
January 31, 2010, 04:06 AM
I dont see a problem with using more than one key for the same thing, I dont agree with macros though, not for worms.

People use tons of macros in fps games and its all legit, seeing as anyone can learn how to make a macro.
#1122
shaggy is in the wrong here, dont ask for rm after placing 3 worms heh.

Placement is part of the game just like an attack is, if you mess it up thats your fault!

#1123
TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
January 30, 2010, 06:27 AM
lol zippo
#1124
Leagues Complaints / Re: 16274 clanner vs tag
January 23, 2010, 08:15 PM
heh I just watched it frame by frame by pressing S.

It definately touches, wasnt worthy of asking for a skip even if it didnt touch tho
#1125
Leagues General / Re: [Poll] New League Moderator
January 23, 2010, 06:10 AM
Quote from: Chicken23 on January 22, 2010, 05:19 PM
Crash has improved and matured since his bull and jerry days

ahh, those were the days!