Quote from: darKz on December 10, 2008, 02:32 AM
This argument is about esthetic shots in BnG NAiL, I can perfectly understand why there are rules for BnG and why people call you cheap if you break them.

And if you're honest BnG looks much better with grenades that explode in mid-air rather than with sitters.

yes of course they do, but a league game should be about playing TO WIN. Not about trying to do a different shot every time and making the shot harder than it has to be.

If you are playing a game for fun, to practise different shots and skills, of course your not gonna want to do "easy" shots...

Why in an elite that you are playing TO WIN would you make a shot or turn harder than it has to be purely to make it look better?

BnG would be so much more appealing to players without all the rules about "cheap" play... you can play ANY scheme "cheap"... you are trying to win man!

Put infinite teles so that you make a better hide for yourslelf, rather than forcing your opponant to hit you with harder than they have to be shots simply because your down in a hole and don't have any teles left!!! madness!!!!

er, assuming what DTs saying is true, and JD quit a bng with little hp...

no matter what you think of DT, surely JD is in the wrong here, quite clearly...

(I didn't check the replays but I don't see why he would lie about what happened when wewe can check the replay to see for ourselves. Why would he dig such a stupid hole for himself)?

If doubletime gets under your skin, its you who needs be more mature! How can an annoying wormer cause you any serious grief?

I cant downloads replays for some reason,  and when I can I get a "version error" message -.-  I want to watch it becasue I like to enjoy a good worms drama 8(

WA

godito quit wa

or

godito plays wa

Quote from: chakkman on December 09, 2008, 07:17 PM
BnG is a 100% skill game like roperace, no thinking or such involved, thats why there will always be ppl loving it and some ppl hating it i guess. i used to like bng v much but then i realized that theres other way more exciting schemes (not that i hate bng now, but its pretty ordinary to me...like playing counterstrike or so ) but thats just my opinion, everything to its own or however the saying is

Nop, first and second choice of hides and wind variations mean it is not 100% skill.

BnG should be played without all these dumb rules. If your in a position where you can be hit with a 5 second sitter, TELE TO A BETTER HIDE!

If you get hit with a max 4 sec twice in a row, TELE TO A BETTER HIDE.

Why in elite would you never say oooh COW... COW u threw a 5 sec sitter man, U COULDA DONE A 3 SEC NADE WHY ARE U SOOO LAAAME.

When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself? Put infinite teles and hide well... Surely the better player will still win...

Quote from: Dario on December 08, 2008, 05:29 AM
I don't like bo1 games, no matter which scheme, that is one of the reasons why I almost don't play in bo1 leagues or tournaments. I am also not sure if the kind-of-bad-luck-that-gives-you-absolutely-no-chance-to-win happens more often at Intermediate (with a decent map choice) than at T17 (with a decent map choice), wxw or shoppers (but what do I know, I don't play T17, wxw or shoppers). Also I can't really compare Inter vs Elite to say which one is better, because I think I've played a good number of both of them and I still can't do such "ranking", they are simply different.

gj Dario

me

your 16 year old daughter be raped by an 18 year old boy (god forbid).

or

your 16 year old daughter be made sweet, passionate, consensual love to by a 48 year old man.

Mr Bingle is mihayleul, gay tho

Quote from: pr on December 04, 2008, 09:39 PM
about rknocking in elite:
i rly dunno why it is disallowed. i cant find any reason. Imo knocks add more tactics in gameplay.
e.g. player knocked enemy worm with bungee for bow shot and sent him to mine. I find this as NICE JOB and not like OMG FCKING LUCKER.

ye exactly PR xD

+ About intermediate, I really think that it should be obligatorty to play best of 3 games (bo3), and report 1 win (or maybe 2).

You cannot play a game of inter with only 1 round, it won't be fair. This is because alot of the inter strategy and gameplay is determined by the deployment of the worms at the start of the round. Seeing as only 1 round will be played, the player who starts first will have an obvious advantage. When played bo3, each player has a chance to start first and so it reduces the luck varuant hugely.

And to all those people who say inter is a noob scheme and its all luck or whatever, go play some of the NNN pros and see if you can beat them!

Inter is as skillful as any other scheme on wa.
You can't really say one scheme requires more skill than another anyway.
Yes shopper is easy to learn, but if two pros played a game would you not still have an exciting match on your hands...

Quote from: darKz on December 04, 2008, 03:02 PM
"I don't like the rules for scheme A because I've got hundreds of reasons why they shouldn't be like that, mostly prestige and honor, cheapness etc etc. If you compare it to scheme B you'll see analogies.."

"Stupid comparision LOL"

lol NAiL, here you think you've kinda owned Ramone and crushed all his theories but in fact you didn't even get to his point..

(Which is BnG obviously)

darKz who are you quoting there?

My point was to do with rope knocking in elite being regarded as cheap, in response to one of Ramones posts. It had nothing to do with his BnG theories.

Wooka I'm not asking anyone to change the rules... we are just having some friendly discussion and debate.

Quote from: Ramone on December 04, 2008, 01:40 PM
I wouldn't get into discussion why rope knock is forbidden in elite, but it's logical that ppl wanted to get the game on 'higher level' with that rule, that's why I took it as an example...

but thats the whole point... how does playing elite without rope knocking mean that the scheme is being played on a "higher level"?

It doesn't.

Playing elite without rope knocking does not take the scheme to a "higher level" at all... All it means is that you are playing elite without rope knocking.

Inarguable fact ^

I don't agree but seeing as we already had an in depth discussion about rope knocking and the evolution of rule changes in elite on the wel forums, I won't bother going through it again.

Just one thing though, "lame and cheap things are disallowed and the rules are made because of that... that's why it's forbidden to knock in elite..."

There is nothing "lame and cheap" about rope knocking, its a skill in it's own right and adds another dimension of strategy to the game in terms both attacking and defending.

If you feel elite is a better scheme without knocking, then thats fine, thats your personal oppinion. But to say that rope knocking is "lame and cheap" is  unfounded and makes no sense... If rule changes are made to lessen the opportunity for "lame and cheap" play, why are 5 second sitter nades not disallowed in elite... Need any more examples? I'm sure you can think of hundreds.

-.-

I didnt write that post...

You should be able to view a players played games on their profile, its very long having to go through page after page of recent games to see whos avoiding and noob bashy