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"and so far that's been your argument... because they exist, and there is no rule not to allow them, they are legal."
If all will complain about everything that is not in the rules, it will finish in the next century.

You will not stop whining several days!!! Who are u? I writed it in game. You did prove it.

Somebody will ban him for a week that he could calm himself.

Quote from: avirex on October 28, 2016, 05:39 PM
I love when people don't read the thread and just jump in and make comments that mean shit.

There was not a single person that said they were against big maps in the league.. if Tomi and rip want to go play big map Tue games, enjoy yourself.

But I should not have to, and I should not be tricked into it... EVERY piece of evidence points to me not knowing it was a big map, I asked for a RH, and this guy raged, calling me a pussy etc. And you mods are just rewarding him for his behavior.. it's really quite surprising how your acting..


Monkey Island: there is a wxw that I know of that is very short, and narrow (gaps on sides) but it's not a big map, it's just rather small, not utilizing all of the classic map size capabilities.. so what your suggesting is I have to be untrusting of everyone and I now have to ask all the time if it's a big map or not, rather then the very simple, and very logical alternative of the host informing every one involved in the game that it's a big map? Are you guys even serious? Or is this some kind of Halloween joke?

OMG You explained a few people, and MI. If you still do not understand, go and read from the beginning.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 28, 2016, 12:33 PM

Quote from: RIP on October 28, 2016, 12:26 PM
u kidding me? if be they had the victory, how in previous games they would have remained silent.

What difference does it make who wins? Everybody loses, and can accept defeat happily, the point here is about notifying participating players of special map types before the game begins.

It's not the end of the world lol, but surely the person who wants to use a different type of map, should be the person to stand up and inform the other players? "Hi, it's a big map, ok?", especially as there is a rule which means it's possible to refuse a map and request a change.

Hi, it's RIP and he like big maps. 4 players who now avoid it can asking me for a map in shopper.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 28, 2016, 12:18 PM

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on October 28, 2016, 11:38 AM
It literally takes ONE GLANCE at the map preview to see that the map isn't normal-sized. After you make such simple observation, it makes you curious. So you ask the host "is that a big map or is it a narrow map?"

Frankly, I find it interesting how you can't take responsibility for a simple mistake of yours and act like you're completely the victim of bad rules.

It's actually a horrible feeling when you see the people in control making unreasonable statements like this.

Similar to what I said in the other thread, the majority of games in Classic League are played in normal sized maps, so the majority of players can possibly be caught off guard with a big map, surprise surprise, 4 very well respected and talented players have been caught like this...(That we only discovered in last few days alone.)

"such simple observation" - Who are you? God? Do you see all and know all? Humans are not perfect, not everyone knows the ins and out of everything, not everyone notices the "signs"...

It is not a mistake of avirex, it should be the hosts responsibility to alert ALL players(even his own clan) for picking a rare and abnormal map type.

Not only is it more logical, it's good manners and promotes a healthy spirit.

What you propose infuriates more people than making a rule so the host should alert the players to any abnormal map sizes.

u kidding me? if be they had the victory, how in previous games they would have remained silent.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202703/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213479/

Komodo u are right. Player can just not use Tele start and asking for other map how ŝ say senator.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 28, 2016, 09:36 AM
Senator get a grip!

The person who is hosting should be the person to declare any abnormal settings for the match, period, stop making things harder for the people who actually put the most effort into playing this League.

You have pretty much almost everyone telling you how things would be better, you are doing exactly what Team17 do every f**king time they make a new game, by ignoring the people who actually LOVE the game and know what they are talking about...

Seriously, you wonder why people are getting fed up?

What the troubles with Senator and Shopper now? all time old players used "special harder maps vs opponents". why this question wake up only now???
Dibz hate big shopper but he never crying about it and never sking to change map! respecte him for this. me also all time play ttrr and from 12` all time 100% lose it for him and  no probleme.

I play league since 12`(and play WA since 09`(before 2001~ on PS1))
And from start my carier on tus all players trying and used nonstandart maps. For what? For give yourself better chances on win. This is was ok all the time.
Watch it:
imitation ttrr(is a not real shopper maps) in Shopper but i never avoiding it also https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-140926/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142621/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-177686/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-180604/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-183692/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-187077/ lalo
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-191827/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-193112/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-193193/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-195062/

use big but REAL Shopper map https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142607/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156370/ Game with Korydex also
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-177419/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-182833/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-193111/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-193521/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-194654/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-201542/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202017/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202697/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202703/ daina
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202926/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202966/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-204574/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-205325/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-205345/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-210209/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-210405/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-212616/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213101/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213141/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213261/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213278/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213479/ lalo
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213517/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213526/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213639/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213675/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-213949/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-214016/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-214026/ lalo and daina haved 50/50 chances in final
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-214064/ aladdin and avi last game before caomplain topic


Big Pod Shoppa map
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-153650/

Born a new kind avoiders.

Dial the 50 people who have played or are playing league and create new rules from the views of all! these players.

Why do you have a problem this year and now? I can find more than a hundred games where another player hosts the big map. I myself lost a lot of games on these cards that have been selected against me. It was always legal and commonplace until the time of the complaints did not become a hit.

lol i think need left to the league xD all want change rules for yourself xD AFG in shopper. Map censored on size and style of map in shopper xD what after? xD just u guys need delete Shopper from league and stop careful)) also delete ttrr and all avoiding players will back in league lol

Quote from: lalo on October 26, 2016, 10:39 PM
Rules are a guideline. If you see something is not fair and wrong you should be the first one to propose a change.
Avi, Dai and I as old players, we are confident our opponents will be fair and not trick us. We never ever had this experience before, and after that clanner played by us with Rip that should be a wake up call to change his attitude.

That rule should be fixed asap and mods should use common sense to make a right decision despite of what the guideline may say. I am not going to be asking in every single game if we are playing on a big map, it is insane!

....it is insane? hmmm u not think what for me insine play ttrr? so maybe me be how u and asking change ttrr maps on correct for me size? similar it https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-1670/
If we always will choose the card for that both sides were be delighted .... here it is will real madness. But you poke me the rules and probably waiting what i depict you in the lobby?

You and so did kindergarten out of the league. All average players stopped playing league or avoid the majority of players. In top overal player who should have 50% winning max because cannot roping but playing or with noobies or with fake accounts. xD If this will continues, soon the league be play a maximum of 20 people.

So you are hosting ttrr against those who are not able to win this scheme and still trying to make their own adjustments to opponent schemes and change the rules for these schemes. 

Large cards were played for a long time. If all the games with them banned in the future or even remove, I will not worry.

Quote from: Kaleu on October 26, 2016, 09:13 PM
What a terrifying chat, this guy can't have a proper conversation without saying that you are whining over a simple question.

u dont know. if all time some players not like maps. why i not asking all time change maps? coz this play on nervos.. or u play on all maps or is not league and sheet on baby party.