The only impossible crate was the last hhc's, all others were easy/doable.

Nintendo is bad for you, man 

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 24, 2011, 03:03 PM
Best musicians were pessimist.

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 24, 2011, 06:58 PM
Wasn't Mozart one ?

Beethoven was better. Check his biography and tell me if a pessimist could handle a life he had.

Just get laid a bit more often, Abnaxus. I promise it'll all look better.

Quote from: Chicken23 on February 23, 2011, 01:02 PM
pm anyone?

Back to the subject.

Mablak said that everyone should be judgedt he same regardless of what point in the season you play them??

What is the varried amount of points in mablaks example compared to HHC's for someone beating random00??

Not much different for the guy who beats random00, I guess. Things is, random00 would lose less.

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 21, 2011, 07:20 PM
Black, White, Yellow, Red or whatever.
Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Atheists or whatever.
They all deserve to die.

You want a better future for the Earth (soon Universe) ? Humanity has to disappear.

Rational thinking ftw!

If you wanna start exterminating human race at yourself, go ahead  

Oh, and I heard (I'm not stating anything) that the whole global banana market is ran completely and only by jews!

Quote from: Komito on February 21, 2011, 07:44 AM
Rok I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not with your comment directed at me, but it seems like you are.

What if that criminal was drunk and got away with the car and ran over and killed some little innocent children? The criminal should not be stealing in the 1st place, let alone pull out a gun on someone, if I was nino's friend I possibly would have done the same thing if someone pulled a gun on me and my life was at risk, however, that doesn't change the fact that nino's friend killed someone, and will have to accept any consequences such as possible jailtime, and I would accept the same punishment if that's the way it went, i'd rather do time and still be alive, than die in cold blood from some low-life criminal who will probably continue to kill other innocent people and ruin lifes.

As for "It's sad that a car is worth more than a human life." I agree with you there.

All true. You can see how there's NOTHING NICE about this whole thing (except that nino's friend is ok), unlike what you first said, hence the sarcasm...

Quote from: Mablak on February 21, 2011, 04:12 AM

Quote from: nino on February 20, 2011, 09:06 PM
i just phoned him and asked how this REALLY happened , he told me right after the man sitted on chair he pointed him the pistol and said him to stop and surrender, but the criminal tried to shoot him too, but he was faster and shoot 1st.


rok i undestand what u mean , but kind of human like this imo just serves to be 7 metres below earth

If that's the case, then it really was self-defense. But in his situation, pulling out the gun really increased his own chances of dying, no way is a car worth that much.

/thread

2 shots in the head while the guy was already starting to drive away is not simple self defense anymore... It's sad that a car is worth more than a human life.

Quote from: dilligaf on February 20, 2011, 03:55 AM
The policia should pay him for doing their job for them! 

Reno f@#!ing Raines, eh?

Quote from: Komito on February 20, 2011, 04:03 AM
It's really nice to hear things like this nino, your friend killed in self-defense, the criminal pulled out HIS gun at his own risk, they should know the risk, crime doesn't pay.

Yeah man, really nice tread.

Quote from: Komito on February 18, 2011, 05:31 PM
We need referees that can check people are playing correctly, people we can trust, like I have just mentioned.

Quote from: Komito on February 18, 2011, 05:18 AM
I would chose from SPW, Franz, Random00, Mir, Free, and Mablak

Oh, but I would chose from: Darkmaul, chakkman, MonkeyIsland, DarkOne, C23, Leroy, Madden, Husk...

Can you see where this is going?

Quote from: franz on February 14, 2011, 09:58 PM

Quote from: Rok on February 14, 2011, 08:33 PM
One more thing, @HHC, franz et. al.: Either use the overall rating in the seasonal calculations fully (in a way similar like we do it now), or don't use it AT ALL. Fiddling with some magic numbers without any statistical or mathematical background is meh and wrong and all...

uhh what? why such forceful language? you make a strong statement about using overall rating in seasonal calculations fully or NOT AT ALL and you don't back yourself up with any explanations as to why.

you must not fully understand the idea if you describe it as "fiddling with some magic numbers." then you claim we're trying this idea "without any statistical or mathematical background" as if this has never been tried before... -> except it has. there have already been comparisons to WoW's arena rating system, so no.. this isn't foreign territory.

Sorry if it sounded harsh, it wasn't meant to. I really don't have time to explain myself, because writing a long post takes me several hours (I like to do some research  ). In short, from what I read about WoW system, It looks roughly like HHC system, but it really isn't. That 'par' number in HHC equations - where does this come from, what does it represent?, etc... this is what I haven't understood reading this thread. Rating systems were developed by people with PhD's who surveyed databases of hundreds of thousands of games before they came up with things like 'expected score' etc. Without being disrespectful towards HHC's work, but I'm sceptical.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on February 12, 2011, 01:22 PM
No post here in a week. By the look of it, we have a full detailed of HHC plan and Mablak's suggestion for a system like NNN's.

I'm not done with this thread yet (if that matters anyhow ), I just don't have time for worms at the moment.

Quote from: DarkOne on February 13, 2011, 06:58 PM
I don't understand why comparisons with football keep being made. They're using a completely different competition format where there's a set amount of games. Worms leagues don't have a set amount of games.

We need a system where you don't just get points because you are active regardless of your results; there should be a minimum requirement of games played for playoffs, but whether you're eligible for playoffs or not should depend on the results (this means not only the percentage of wins, but also the opposition against which you reached that result). And perhaps your rating shouldn't depend mostly on the last 10 games you've played, but rather on the entire collection of games you've played through the season; the effect of beating Random in an elite at the start of the season is entirely lost after about 10-20 games, but if your last elite was against Random, you can see a huge boost in your rating.

Yes, indeed. One tweak we can still do is to adjust ratings after a series of games rather than after every single game as it is now. ATM, I'm still not convinced by. The system that Mablak mentioned (table tennis thing) could be promising for this league, though.

One more thing, @HHC, franz et. al.: Either use the overall rating in the seasonal calculations fully (in a way similar like we do it now), or don't use it AT ALL. Fiddling with some magic numbers without any statistical or mathematical background is meh and wrong and all...

Cya again when RL let's me...

Quote from: Komito on February 07, 2011, 07:21 PM
Rok, I laughed at 2 jokes with pictures, he is saying people deserve to be ran over (in that situation).

I debate about alot of things on these forums, but I never condone such brutality or degrade the value of human life or whether people should deserve to be physically harmed or not.

My conscience is guilt free.

Do you understand?

Sure I do, and I don't have a problem with that, I only answered your (perhaps rhetorical) question. That 'they deserved it' statement bothered me, though.

And now I'm out of this thread.

Quote from: Komito on February 07, 2011, 06:25 PM
Why turn an innocent joke into an unsettling debate?

LOL the irony!

Quote from: Komito on February 07, 2011, 06:25 PM
What makes us the judge?

The common human morality, that's what.

That Abnaxus guy says it's ok to drive into a kid when he throws a rock at your windshield (let's forget all the social and ethnic background behind that clip for now). Yeah, I'm gonna f@#!ing judge that.

Quote from: Abnaxus on February 07, 2011, 01:06 PM
About the 10 Y/O kids, they deserved it.

I remember some hippy posts about peace and love from you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

10 year old kids don't deserve to be run over by a car for throwing rocks. Period.

I guess I misunderstood you then. Hell, I'm inclined to the other way completely I might appear like religiously supporting rating system, but I really like the idea of it.

Ok let's say, we choose to reset everything every season. What about people who like to compete yet don't have time to play enough worms to be able to fight for playoffs? I'll give myself for example - I don't think I'll ever have enough time again to play ~100 leagues games in a season nor I wish to play that much. But I'd still like to have some comparison to other players. A rating table does that for me just fine, while fresh seasonal standings every two months simply don't.

I could even live with overall ratings and seasonal scores completely separated, as long as I have something to fight for. That's my biased view but I'm sure there are others around wormnet who feel the same way.