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#676
Maps / Re: Top My map wxw, shopper, big rr.
January 03, 2011, 05:02 PM
Map wmdb 16453 is just another remix of Darkmaul's w4w map with different graphics. It's nice to give credit where credit is due.

Otherwise, nice work.  :)
#677
Did you do that on purpose?  :)
#678
Off Topic / Re: Betrayal
December 31, 2010, 05:29 PM
Quote from: CJ on December 31, 2010, 05:23 PM
BTW before any1 says anything, i didnt/dont use condoms cos im allergic to latex so fu xD

#679
Off Topic / Re: Betrayal
December 31, 2010, 02:24 PM
I don't want it to look like I support punching people in the face, but yay, you got over her!  ;D
#680
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 30, 2010, 05:57 PM
Quote from: Random00 on December 30, 2010, 02:13 PM
An Rok: to show you how f@#!ed up the normal tus system is after a few hundred games just look at the Standings. The Playoff seat #2 (daiNa) is ranked at #169. So you really think that this table is showing the skill correctly? ;/

No, it isn't showing the skill correctly. But her rating is: 6116, it's 7th highest. That means the standings table is flawed, not the rating system. Is it really so hard to grasp the concept of rating? ::) The solution -->

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on December 30, 2010, 04:25 PM
The solution for that is to show the overall standings or that season in the same page too. So that you will see both seasonal table and overall table at once.
#681
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 30, 2010, 11:39 AM
Quote from: franz on December 30, 2010, 10:49 AM
Quote from: Rok on December 30, 2010, 10:08 AM
If maximum possible points and a good challenging match isn't enough to make you wanna play better players, then I'm afraid there's no system that could.

you don't have to tell me this, I always love a good challenge, and I actively try to play the top players.  I'm 7-4 vs mablak.  unfortunately I see mablak way more than random00 though due to timezones, so I'm only 0-2 vs him.

I only mentioned a possible rule that forces top players to play each other because not everyone seeks out the best competition.

If you want ideas for brainstorming since you seem sure there's no system, I remember Cases Ladder had special rules for the top10 of their ladder system.  they made sure their top10 was kept competitive and not lazy using activity rules that if they didn't meet the requirements, they would losing ranking.  something like that might be possible.  I'm not saying it's necessary, just an option to look into if enough people want to try it.

I didn't mean you specifically though, but people in general :)

We could try setting some number of matches a player from top of the ladder would need to play vs other say top 10 or 20 players to be able to participate in PO, I believe that's what you meant?
#682
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 30, 2010, 10:08 AM
Quote from: franz on December 30, 2010, 07:59 AM
the current system doesn't force top players to play each other.. so unless there is a rule that they must (which could be a good idea somehow), they probably won't.  their only benefit for playing each other currently is the amount of points for winning... so I don't see how increasing the points won even more makes them want to play each other more.

If maximum possible points and a good challenging match isn't enough to make you wanna play better players, then I'm afraid there's no system that could.


Quote from: franz on December 30, 2010, 07:59 AM
Maybe SPW's prediction of future TEL standings isn't going to be as extreme as he thinks.

Rest assurred, it won't be.
#683
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 29, 2010, 08:42 PM
The way I see this idea of yours, HHC, it's just some fiddling with numbers, unnecessary complicated, and not representing what ratings should represent, that is the skill of a player. Why not just have +2/-1 points then, it's simple and it works basically the same  :-X

If you're really interested in a better rating system, have a look at Glicko rating system: http://www.glicko.net/glicko.html. It takes into account the activity of the players - the players who play more have a higher rating accuracy and thus gain better points than those who play infrequently or are only just starting. IMO, it would be ideal for a worms league. You only need to persuade MonkeyIsland to code it :)
#684
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 29, 2010, 07:42 PM
Yeah, I noticed, I just didn't want to review my whole post  :)

EDIT: You still didn't convince me.

B): It's exactly the same thing atm, it's just, well, it spans over multiple seasons, heh.

At first glance it seems like loser would lose about half the points they'd get if they won, right? I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but TUS system worked like that in first few seasons. It didn't really work well, you might check it out.
#685
TUS Discussion / Re: TEL-System - Need a change?
December 29, 2010, 07:39 PM
Sorry, but this thread is a meh.

This has been discussed like 50 times before, and nobody has come up with a solution to what some of you think is a problem, but it really isn't: How many 'newcomers' has there been so far who were abusing the low rating to gain points fast? One per season, maybe, or something like that? How many newcomers there will be in next season of TEL that will have enough skill to actually take advantage of your precious high ratings? Yeah, not many. And even if there's a reset every season, one can simply wait a month and then rape you.

I'm gonna pick on you now, HHC, nothing personal, but your post comes handy ;)

Quote from: HHC on December 29, 2010, 06:21 PM

Pros
+ Same starting conditions every season for each player, not the burden of history   // Not true, more skilled players have huge advantage;

+ Standings that make sense   // there are better ways to solve this, besides that I don't think how current standings don't make sense

+ Neither newbies in, nor 'safe' playoffs spots created (I see this as a Pro René)  // potentially more newbbashing newbies in playoffs

+ Every season a new chance, no need to build up a HUGE overall rating   // I could agree with that. But you don't need THAT HUGE of a rating in current system. Just play enough people with similar rating.

+ Minimum number of games for a playoff spot no longer necessary   // true, but then activity plays bigger role in standings

+ Leagues more accessible to new players (easy to step in, see above: no longer multiple seasons needed to build up a rank); would probably also stimulate people who have given up to give it a new try (every new season)   //  I thought SPW said that it's currently too easy for new players to step in?

+ Different people in playoffs, not just the usual suspects with their 5000+ ranks   // Classic league playoffs have a nice variety of different players , IMO


Cons
- MI gotta change the system = work   // Like MI said, it's not a lot of work :)
- Perhaps only the very very active people will qualify for playoffs (not that it is easy for inactive people now..)  // I agree, and that's much bigger problem than 1 potential newcomer each season, if you ask me
- Newb bashing pays off (first week all noobs are worth 1000 rating!; same as Elite super veterans pwners)  // Yeah.

#686
Leagues Complaints / Re: start a complaints
December 27, 2010, 08:00 PM
Quote from: leone1989 on December 26, 2010, 09:56 PM
what must i do?

You must play the game until the end. You must also read the rules: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-141/ Player who cows can still take the crate.

Game stands.
#687
Leagues Complaints / Re: 49343
December 27, 2010, 07:51 PM
It wasn't a sitter, so you have no complaint here, avi.

Same shot, different shot, doesn't matter, you need to re-aim.
#688
General discussion / Re: lol trick :D
December 27, 2010, 08:45 AM
Quote from: Husk on December 27, 2010, 06:42 AM
lol check this XDDD

no need to launch from rubberworm to view this replay

edit: was so excited i forgot manners. very nice find whoever jaguar is (=

Nice find, Husky :)
#689
I wonder what's funny, beer?  :o
#690
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas

Everybody (all Roman Catholics and Anglicans) celebrates Christmas Eve on 24th, usualy with Christmas meals, gifts and stuff, and later with Midnight Mass. The actual Christmas Day is on 25th.