Quote from: darKz on December 12, 2013, 12:59 PM

Quote from: SPW on December 08, 2013, 09:26 AM
We dont wanna destroy our nice overall stats, thats for sure. So we always try to have best lineups. This means, that I dont play clanners with one of you alone. Maybe there are some clans willing do defaults only, but thats not the main thing. Usually, we need, including me, 3 guys online. I prefer that we only play clanner when 3 of us are online.

You're probably talking about this paragraph. The whole point of playing with a strong roster is to be able to play every scheme at a high level. Ergo, it's basically to avoid avoiding. I don't get what you're on about.

You know what, I might have misread the point about defaults. SPW implied that he would be interested in defaults.

He did say that isn't the main thing so I apologise for misreading the post in the first place /slap

Quote from: darKz on December 12, 2013, 11:58 AM
You're forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that it's also a clan league, not a whichever two individuals are online league. I'm sorry to say but your argument is invalid.

But I think I know what the problem is.

Imagine these two scenarios:
1.) CF has an internal agreement, we all meet up on Ventrilo and join WormNET only as a group when we're all ready and want to play clanners.
2.) CF join WormNET one by one and wait for the others there. As soon as two of us are online people immediately assume that they can ask us to play a clanner and we have to agree.

It's basically the same thing, yet one kind of behavior does absolutely nothing while the other one makes people grab their pitchforks.

Why do you think this is the case?

My whole point was about scheme avoiding.

I totally agree with you about having the right people around, I often get asked to clanner and refuse because I don't want to.

You mentioned (I can't remember the exact wording) only playing certain schemes. That is a problem because it immediately disadvantages the other clan. The whole point of having points for each scheme is to give a fair reflection of how good you are allround/overall. Avoiding schemes will mean that you avoid a potentially bad (e.g. RR) rating which by your relative skill you should have (no disrespect intended, I happen to think you are a very strong allrounder in all schemes except RR)

I never mentioned about players being available,  etc. That is a completely different topic that I have no problem with.

Quote from: darKz on December 12, 2013, 10:50 AM

Quote from: Ryan on December 12, 2013, 07:51 AM
I am not asking anyone to fool around, I am asking you to play fair.
You pick, we pick, no avoiding, simple.

I totally respect your skill, but not the way you propose to use it.

You really want to play a TTRR clanner against SPW don't you? Would be amazing competition. If you want default wins look somewhere else, it's that simple.

Dark, knowing that SPW isn't a RRer, you should know I would take no pride at all playing him in a TTRR clanner. I actually much prefer the games vs e.g. daina, dulek where I feel I could lose. No disrespect to SPW, he probably feels the same with default.

I should be allowed to pick it against him/you though.

The problem I have, and you know full well, is that you limit the choice the other clan can make, it is a classic league, not a default league, don't abuse it through avoiding your weaker schemes.

I am not asking anyone to fool around, I am asking you to play fair.
You pick, we pick, no avoiding, simple.

I totally respect your skill, but not the way you propose to use it.

You need to reconsider your scheme flexibility though

Wow... snap

I start work in 1.5 hours

Is that yours?

Haha, snap

Lucky me :S

I agree avi.
The person who gets the high rank first holds all the cards, which is why I personally value win % over points.
This is why I said win/loss ratio might be fairer to display for historic stats.

Points are fair for a season basis because everyone starts on the same points.

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I get back from work in about 4 hours, will post replay link against each game when I'm back!

Long enough explanation - 1v1v1