Quote from: Free on February 18, 2024, 12:31 AM
Makes no sense why the one who made a hit has to handicap himself by using a different shot. The one getting hit should move if he thinks the repeat is easy enough.

Quote from: TheWalrus on February 17, 2024, 10:17 PM
I avoid sbaffo because he smells of salami and pepperoni

You wish you knew how real salumi smell

You had to be in dt to see the bng notching guide on their private board

[TdC-Free] i just try not to be too lame lol

Void the game, no ganja texture

Quote from: TheKomodo on February 17, 2024, 02:26 PM

For starters, egoistic means that you are pretty much limited to only caring about your own interests and thoughts.

That being said, you're being egoistic more than the very people you accuse of being egoistic.

Think about it...

You are the one who wants to force others to do it YOUR way. It's not the TUS way, nobody is breaking any rules here.

Have you even bothered to read my post? "if it would be up to me, i'd pick only ttrr, but that rarely does happen nowadays, therefore i try to play everything when it comes to allround, even my least favourite schemes. And if i lose, it doesn't matter, i gave it a shot and contributed to the league activity" how does this even sound egoistic to you? Everyday i end up in ag picking or playing something suitable for my opponent. I have played 12 ttrr and those were only against dibz lol.

The ideal league model i've just talked about previously doesn't suit for me, it does suit for everyone. YOu know what i could do? I could wait for two rope players all day and then playing only them, ohhh that would benefit soo much for the activity of the league, wouldn't it?

But wait, you quoted this...

QuoteBoth of you have to pick one scheme and play those two games. The higher season rating must pick first.

Did i hear this right? It's the same thing i've been talking about in my post. Seems you completely ignored all the objective points i've made in my post, you missed it entirely and decided to go for a personal attack, which was never my intention, good job

This game needs automatization like modern games real do, but seems like most of you don't want to face the truth and still live in this forum era, but guess what, forums have gone out of fashion, gamers rather have a more user integrated experience rather than going on an external forums and talk with strangers about... stuff. But yeah, keep living in this bubble. I see things in a bigger picture

I don't need a league suitable for me, i could keep winning season by season by the way it is right now, but you know what it's not exciting nor fun anymore. Yet you think i want to make things easier for me? hahahah i don't have nothing to prove anymore, and you can bet i'll be there watching you when you guys won't have anyone to play with because you were too turds to make some radical changes or apply your self a little bit more, keep changing league schemes, shit gonna work out soon you bet right? Pathetic

Last thing: TUS should take a stand about this matter, either continue with this democratic approach that lets anyone do what they want, or make a strict set of rules to abide by. If TUS keps going with the first option, as optimistic as i'd like to be, the new TRL idea won't last more than 3 seasons, i guarantee you.

Quote from: Sensei on February 17, 2024, 11:46 AM
By the looks of it, some ppl in the community would find this cheap!? What's cheap about it?

Because:

1) You're playing in allround/default league: your season/overall points is the sum of different schemes. You're 4th this season, and 86% of your games were bng. Your season rating would be totally different if you wouldn't cherry pick the scheme to play and if you played everyone (i'm not saying you do, i'm saying that tus right now allows you to do it) or let's say if you used a matchmaking system. There are two things that could be done in order to fix this issue: either let your opponent get a free win or, as once ryan suggested

Quote from: Ryan on October 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
If someone wants to "tus no roper" they should have their current season roper points wiped to 0.

They don't deserve a roper rating because they don't consider it as a scheme they have to play.

The player could tick the schemes they are willing to play on TUS.
Any scheme they aren't willing to play should have a frozen rating of 0.

That way the standings are a reflection of their ALLROUND ability.

This way we get a more realistic and accurate reflection of your allround score.

2)Activity decrease:  paradoxically, playing what you want makes the league more inactive. I can make an example you're more familiar with: in CS:GO you get to pick what map you want to play, if you pick all the maps the matchmaking queue will be faster, as selecting more maps gives you a greater chance to find a game. However, if you pick only one map, your awaiting time will be longer. Now, to translate this worms terms: looking only for one scheme to pick gives you less chance to find a game, hence the activity will be minor. I would be fine with having a matchmaking that lets you pick only bng, but given the current state of the league we should do aim to play everyone and every scheme rather than having an egoistic approach. After all, if you don't care or don't like playing a certain scheme, you can still give away a win to your opponent.

Quote from: Sensei on February 17, 2024, 11:46 AM
This, my friends, is school example of caring about points.

Oh, yet another stupid bng discussion.

No my friend, if you do care about the league activity, try be a little bit more like me, because you forget that if it would be up to me, i'd pick only ttrr, but that rarely does happen nowadays, therefore i try to play everything when it comes to allround, even my least favourite schemes. And if i lose, it doesn't matter, i gave it a shot and contributed to the league activity.

Ok, i'll try to take off my autistic hat for a second and try to seriously explain you what goes in my mind.

I've always been a keen league player, i've played 5000 games in this league, competition runs through my veins and it is the only way i enjoy playing this game mostly

It is true that people have their own definition of "having fun" and i totally understand that, we're all different after all, but sometimes people seem to use this as an excuse or a mean to get away with their egoistic and/or cowardice behaviour.

We seem to forget everyday that whenever we talk about about competition, there must be some league concept behind it. Leagues work because they have their very own structure and strict set of rules, the main goal is to finally reward the most skilled and fearless player among the others. If you're willing to play in a competitive league, you're implicitly agreeing to the set of rule and you're most likely aware of what you're about to go through.

Now i know what you're thinking, WA doesn't have enough players right now to be competitive enough, but it's not the central topic in my post. In this game reported here, we can see how people, during a more competitive era, were treated. Notice also, how moderators were more strict towards these kind of behaviours. If you were a cheap/lamer player, you were treated accordingly, hence these type of behaviours were highly discouraged, if not punished, and as a consequence making it harder for you to reach the playoffs, the main goal of this league (rn the main goal for some people is to get a bunch of points and show off some medals, hahaha...). Now what would happen if Walrus and I came across a similar situtation like this today and acted accordingly? The feedback would be totaly different, we would be the one seen as the cowards, and the mods would probably agree with the plebs, despite the fact that the set of rules to abide by have been pretty much the same for the past years.

See what happened? Instead of keep enforcing the same set of rules, the league has always been favourable over the general opinion of the players, thus, in the past years at least, making a league more friendly shaped with the last generation of players. Has it helped with the activity though? Doesn't look like so. Is it the main reason of the inactivity of this league? Probably not completely, but it partially played a major role in my opinion, because playing league this way, at least personally for me, has made it less enjoyable and less competitive. In my eyes, the league has become a joke over the years. To enforce my statement, i'd like to quote a wise guy:

Quote from: TheWalrus on July 06, 2019, 08:50 PM

We can go back and forth for days about blame for the downfall of league play, but I find it negligent to blame MI for anything that has happened.  The home page has read the same from day 1 - a site for wormers, built on the suggestions of the community.  I have watched over the years as MI has complied with the suggestions of members; sometimes good, and occasionally terrible, but if it was the will of the people, MI has complied. 

So here we are at the forums homepage that has been guided by a wholistic, democratic approach, and people are complaining about the outcome.  If you want a culprit, point at yourself.  Not much work has gone into this community for a few years now, and your average drive by hot take on TUS involves trashing MI and deadcode and maligning the state of the community.

We put competitive and skills behind to let anyone here have their own 5 minutes of glory so can they showoff their fake medals and fake winning streaks. On another note i love how most of the suggestion that were posted in the topic i quoted walrus, were given by members that never played or at least never took the league seriously.

Now i wanna talk about the fact about why people should be forced to play schemes they don't like:

Right now tus allround has got 11 schemes, ofc people between these schemes, will have on one hand their favourite personal schemes and on the other hand their least favourite schemes. Everybody does, and that includes me as well. So why the f@#! am i supposed to let my opponent decide what to play for the both of us, which competitively speaking gives him a far bigger advantage and a higher chance at winning while i'm not going to enjoy the ride likewisely? That's why i think the "your pick, my pick" is the fairest way to play in this league: you and i both get to play what we enjoy. Don't like my scheme? Well, play 5 minutes, then you're free to quit and give out a free win. I'm sure you won't mind losing points in a scheme you don't care about, right? What did you say? You don't want to lose points? Well my friend, that's called hypocrisy. You state that you wanna play for fun but at the same time you care for points? Hahaha nt...

Not only that, losing points in the schemes you dislike makes it less convenient for your opponent to pick it, hence making it a less smart choice. So we can see that, if the current set rules was enforced properly, the league would work clockwise. However, it's not happening. Because people wanna be competitive in this site but at the same time wanna complain about everything, everyone here look like they want to have a league suitable for themselves without being competitive. It's time some of the people look up on a dictionary:
competition /ˌkɒmpɪˈtɪʃn/ : the activity or condition of striving to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others.

So if you can't handle the pressure and you don't like being smashed, you should consider playing your favourite scheme by simply hosting it on the wormnet and without bothering competitive players here on tus.

What i think is that the moderators and admins should start making and enforcing their own decisions rather favour the plebs opinion, there are plenty ways we could enforce a more competitive league. Matchmaking is one of them, we could have safe login again on wormnet and bring back ranks again. The key for all innovations right now is automation. And as an automation addicted (i automated dozens of procedures during my internship in the bank, making me pretty popular among the office) i'd like to discuss it further with you.


*takes autistic hat back*

Good times, when avoiders and lamers were treated accordingly, take this for example ppl

1v1 me comet dodging komo

Quote from: Noxwill on February 15, 2024, 06:49 PM
Shtaket's taps looks like pure cheat tbh, like script

Hi asbest

This is not gonna possible at all and you can tell it simply by looking at Free's reaction in this game lol imagine how other people would react to this

Nice idea

Although i can already imagine something like this happening: "hey let's play trl, but i only play super sheep so either we play this or nothing"

You're welcome