Quote from: DarkOne on May 09, 2015, 08:12 AM

Quote from: Komito on May 09, 2015, 06:09 AM
I would still like to be MOD, but unfortunately MI cannot accept what's best for the community:

There's confidence and then there's overconfidence, Komo
My experience with you is that you do look at problems regarding games pretty objectively, haven't met problems with your cups, other than problems with deadlines (not an issue with regular complaint solving, I realise).

And then there's the part where you can suddenly get bored and walk away - but then I'd be a colossal hypocite if I were to make that a deal breaker.

You did get into a lot of arguments, but let's not forget that in complaint threads, most of those started with people complaining about meddling by non-mods, so that also wouldn't be an issue.

All I can say is - be prepared to be called biased if MI changes his mind.

Just to clarify a misconception from this thread - I don't spread myself too thin. In fact, when I noticed that I was spreading myself too thin, I decided to stick to moderating cups, even if no announcement was made to that extent. I only occasionally handled compaints from the leagues.

thats exactly the current problem with TUS at the moment, someone with more objective views may not make the best of MODS.

but thats only because the rules are lacking in a big way, as Anubis said, in AL league (i think he said AL?) ANY BODY could have been a MOD, because the rules were stated in such a way that the answer to most complaints were a simple copy and paste away... in the result of a complaint being a bit more complicated, Komo would be smart enough to know the rules need a quick update, and after discussing with others the rule can then be brought to MI to make adequate changes.

DarkOne, i agree... you are not AS guilty of spreading yourself too thin, you have done so in the past, but according to you, you can realize that before things get out of control... MonkeyIsland clearly can not see when he is spreading himself too thin, and if he can, i guess he just does not wish to do anything about it..  he waits until people are like "wtf?" we all knew we needed a new mod like 8 months ago, we voted in barman (regardless of him breaking rules to fit what he liked **cough**) but barman is now inactive, along with the gender hopping mod, and DarkOne is managing cup mods he says.... its time we get a new MOD.

I am no longer interested in this roll.. i dont want to feel like im walking on egg shells with every decision i make, simply because MI will be looking for a reason to get rid of me, its not fair to me, or him. (it will only make him look worse that he has already made himself look here)

but komo is still interested in the roll of being MOD, and damn it, the man will do a good job!! and fix the rules!!  The rules have been issue to complaint more commonly then any other feature in TUS, and since TUS birth *almost* nothing has been done to correct them.

i think MonkeyIsland has done a great job with most everything as TUS, and without him, theres a good chance a lot of us would not be here... but, the guy does not know when he needs help, and when to accept the help that is offered, its as if he wants to run every aspect of the league, with the help of his trusty side kick (darkone) and at the end of the movie, when the credits roll, he would be distraught if any other names were mentioned.

also, i would like to know wtf your talking about with this

"Avirex do not respect community rules and if there's chance to do something he likes, he happily breaks them. You can't have your cake and eat it too."

because i do not break rules in league games, and i believe i have only been banned from TUS once, because yes.. i broke a rule to do something i liked... but, barman was banned right along with me at the same time, along with another group of tus members... barman is still a mod... and what kind of image is it to lie to the community for over 8 years about your gender??  do you know how many times i asked franz if he shaved his vagina, before he finally came clean and told the community he is a man??? is that the kind of image you want as your mod?? god for bid if i swear!! "OMG" 

haha.. whatever dude.. just say it, you dont like me, and ill move on.

i vote vok and senator too..  dont care, its not like its a difficult job, but the mods we have are not doing the necessary job at the moment, due to inactivity.

MI, i would love to hear a description of what you think my image is...  i just want to hear it from you, for the sake of a good laugh, because guess whats.. it will just be YOUR opinion, and as i said before, this is no surprise to me that you wont give me a chance, i knew from the start your personal views of me will limit your ability to make a good decision.

the reality of it is, i am very well liked in this community, if i wasn't, i would never have been able to form such a strong clan, and keep such influential members in the clan, i would never be able to form such a strong community, based around absolutely nothing (that we can disclose to the public) and i would not have been able to call you out on reading our forums, and watch you squirm like the little private forum rat that you are.

I am not the only private community/forum that has said they seen you in their forums... FoS has multiple screen shots of you in our private forum, wanna call me a liar again?? i dont remember the last time you "accidentally" clicked on our forums either MI, but that's why you will not be able to quote me saying it was recently. besides, we took all the juicy stuff to a more private forum outside of TUS anyway... so if you'd like to visit more frequently, we dont mind


To be honest, i don't even want to be MOD anymore, if you feel that strongly against me MI, despite 90% of the people in this post saying we would make good mods, and telling you to give us a chance, then i don't want to be a MOD. so, im all set with the position, maybe you can give it Volrin, or TheHamster... yeah, they would make good MODs.. (get the joke? inactive players)

i want to be perfectly clear that i no longer want to be MOD, but just for the sake of argument.. your full of shit when you say " I've already explained it to you why "my feelings" is completely valid. "

nothing is completely valid, its your personal feelings about me, and how you view me... thats not a a valid reason my friend... but hey, your the boss... so rock out with your cock out, its your choice who the MOD will be... but regardless who you choose, you need help in this department.. sooner will be better then later, thanks

Komo,  if you have actually taken the time to read every single post thorougly he said on several occasions it would be next seasons at the earliest...

he has dedicated an entire webpage with-in TUS for the E.T.A.

here it is.  https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/seasons-info/

Quote from: HHC on May 07, 2015, 03:48 PM

Quotebut maybe now its time to get married, give your son another daddy to help out in this roll!!  after all, gay marriages are becoming more and more accepted through out America, and i would assume the world!!

Basically we have to vote Avirex or we are unpatriotic homophobes?

In that case I was the first one to vote for Avi.

lol you took my quote out of context, that particular statement was in regards to MI getting some help with website updates... the homepage has not been changed in over a month i believe, been looking at the same "worst shot ever" bit for quite a while now

but regardless, yes..

VOTE FOR AVI, OR YOUR AN UNPATRIOTIC HOMOPHOBE!

dimebag daryl!! nice one ano

Quote from: Anubis on May 06, 2015, 07:49 PM
You like country music avi? I thought you only enjoy rap.

Actually scratch that, I have no f@#!ing idea what music taste you have. I just imagined you being a rapper.

I like some country music, yes.. Peja even gives credit to me, for his enjoyment in country music :DD i mentioned a particular song once in a game, and then he went and youtubed it, and enjoyed it.... Ever since then, you can find peja in cowboy hat, and boots!!

i believe this was the song

but to answer your question more, i like all music... Country, Rock, Rap, r&b, whatever... anything with a nice rhythm, beat, melody, lyrics, etc.. if i can bob my head and tap my feet when the song comes on, i like it  

my favorite genre is most likely r&b, i tend to like the "slow jams" soulful love songs, etc.. Keith sweet, Brian McKnight, Ne-Yo, etc    but thats mostly in my own house, in privacy, or with a girl...  when riding in the car, i like to listen to rap, rock, or country.

Quote from: ANO on May 07, 2015, 06:49 AM

Quote from: Ryan on May 07, 2015, 06:37 AM
I would suggest the following:

Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kindly remove those who are inactive/contribute little)

Set up an initial announcement thread where people can post their interest in becoming a MOD.

MI does some light touch vetting to ensure that there aren't any silly requests.

Set up a poll for a week to allow the community got for the next MOD(S).

Highest number of votes = new MOD(S).

Normally, if you go for something like this, it should be:

- Vote of MI and D1 (with some percentage)
- Vote of the community

i think we have tried that in the past ryan, its been proven time and time again, polls are really not the best solution, you have people that dont care that vote (because its a simple click of a button) you have people that dont know whats best because they are not active (but vote anyway, because simple click) you have people that only vote based on popularity, disregarding if they are a suitable fit, and active (because this is worms ;p) you have people that think its a joke, and vote for Asbestos (because forum humor is epic)  and the list goes on and on and on...

im not against a "vote" system, but i think its more fair when  people back up their vote with some reasoning in a post... such as rU did.

as far as "Let MI decide how many active MODS are required (and kind remove those who are inactive/contribute little)"

that too has been proven not to work... MonkeyIsland does not know when enough is enough for his own good, all though his intentions are in the right place, he tries to do EVERYTHING, and its not working. I dont care how great one human possibly is... its not possible for one person to run a major CEO company, there is many many people beneath him that are helping keep that clock tick. The sooner everyone realizes that, the sooner TUS can be an *even* better place. and voting on every little thing that comes up is not my idea of people beneath monkeyisland keeping the clock tick ;p

-speaking of helping keep the clock tick, worms has a nice amount of coders, and web designers, MI should get some help from some of these guys in maintaining the site, and making small updates.. i know that this website is MI's "baby" he has raised it since birth, and for that reason maybe he would not want to... but at this point, we all know who daddy(MI) is, and we all appreciate the mature young man(TUS) he raised but maybe now its time to get married, give your son another daddy to help out in this roll!!  after all, gay marriages are becoming more and more accepted through out America, and i would assume the world!!

Quote from: rU` on May 06, 2015, 08:34 PM

Quote from: avirex on May 06, 2015, 07:30 PM
based on your personal feelings of us.. isnt that being biased?

My personal feelings towards you both are pure luv, hahha

Yeh your theory makes sense but I still want fresh people to take charge on moderating the league. And I haven't seen you much active lately either.. Not sure if that would change if you manage to get mod rights.

Anyway gl avi xd

that part was actually directed to MI, but i seen you confusion, where you could have thought i meant it towards you... i have edited it so its more clear.

i dont think you dislike me rU, if you dont think im right for the roll, thats cool, thats your opinion, so far you and MI are the only ones that feel that way though.

as far as spleen being a MOD, i dont really know the guy, but he always seems cool,  he mentions others may think a more experienced person should take roll?  Im not sure how much experience he has, but i think a player should have at least 2 years experience with league, i think that's a fair amount of experience, of course that should not be some mandatory thing, maybe a player has only 1 year and 6 months experience, but he would be a perfect fit for the job, then f@#! it!! but just for basic guide lines in my opinion, 2 years experience seems fair.

Quote from: rU` on May 06, 2015, 05:39 PM
Hmm, how to start off lol.

I don't see anyone from the current active people being a decent mod for tus xD

I don't think being old in this game is a requeriment either. 

Maybe you cant see any people being a decent mod because  your not active??  at all...

and to celarify things, i dont think its a requirement to have decade+ of experience in order to be a good mod, i was just simply stating my attributes, and some of the reasons why i would be a good mod... however, i do think a worm should have a bare minimum of 2 years experience in worms, and league play before he should be considered for the position. 

Anubis post says it all, its easy to be a mod, if you have a proper rule book. I believe that by now, its common knowledge, that the rule book of TUS sucks!! it needs work, and it has needed work since the birth of TUS, but still nothing has been done.

I find it ironic that you can't think of any good mods rU, because i can think of several!! does not matter if the person is silly at times, or unpredictable, or even been known to rage from time to time, there is a job that needs to be done, and if someone offers their time to do it (and go above and beyond job description, by fixing the rules) why should MI object to that?? especially when i have seen majority of positive feedback from anyone who has posted here supporting those who offered (me and komo)

Like Anubis said, if a mod is being biased, it will be quickly noticed, and its not like if someone made a biased ruling, that it would be irreversible.. it can be changed back to the proper decision almost as easy as it would be to revoke that persons MOD privileges. 

The facts are this... TUS needs new mods... Chicken, Barman, and Franz are not even active on forums, let alone the game, and MonkeyIsland and Darkone are spreading them selves too thin, and not doing a good job. I personally do not care if im chosen for mod or not, as anubis said, i gain nothing from it, i just know there needs to be new mods, regardless if its me, komo, or any other shmuck, i dont care. it just so happens that me and komo are the ones that are offering our time and assistants at the moment, seems foolish of MI to turn down the help based on his personal feelings of us.. isnt that being biased?

Quote from: nino on May 06, 2015, 06:24 PM
just click on youtube icon and put this EKRh-H9tF4U between

these letters and numbers are at the end of all youtube links!

i had clicked the youtube link, that much was obvious for me;p
but when i copy and pasted the link inside it was "https:" peja messaged me and said I only have to remove the s, and it works.. Mission complete.

yeah yeah yeah XanKrie!! make a nice icon!!

the apps great tomi!! i never rly used snoopers before, never felt the need, always just figured if im going to play worms, why not sign into wormsnet the old fashion way, but i been using your program, and you keep making it better which is great!!

i just think i needs a nicer icon, im a visually appealing whore... i love nice visuals sorry !!

Exactly what Komo, and ANO said, and i think peja maybe mentioned too??

the way i act in forums, (like you said MI) is just me, being me.

for instance, i called you a jackass, thats just how i talk, and thats me.. that does not mean i dont have a great deal of respect for you, and what you have done for w:a (and i have made many posts expressing my appreciation towards your efforts) but thats does not mean i will "kiss your ass" or treat you with more respect then the next puto, at the end of the day, we are all men.. with the exception of dainub, and a couple other females who may or may not shave the bush.

but regardless of getting payed or not (which i know im not, just making a pont) i would consider this my job, and i would take pride in it, and do the best job that i can...  and i would know when im making "MOD posts" i will have to approach them with a different style of communication, i would do my best to be professional and polite..  so, like komo and ANO said, you would get a professional work environment avirex, not the beat around the forums having fun avirex...

I have more experience on this game then most people and more years or worms play then anyone, and komo as well... and like i said before, if me and komo can not come to an agreement, that means there is a problem... and we wont just flip a coin to decide, and move on to the next complaint, we will discuss it, get other members of the community involved (who choose to get involved) and decide on a new rule...  the rules should be clear enough that there will be no argument, or debate...  and right now they are not!! but by the time me and komo are done here, anyone would be capable of being a mod, even a member who has weak English skills can be a mod, because each situation will be noted in the rules, it will be a simple copy and paste of the rule, and decisions made "Void game, see rules section E: paragraph 2 www.heresthelinnk.com"

as i said, i knew your views of me would get in the way of the best decision for TUS (in my opinion) just like in my last complaint you made comments like...

"Also to other contributors, I'm sure no matter how detailed I make the TUS rulebook, there are certain people who will still find their way to open up another complaint."

and

" "Now"? I've been involved with loads of complaints for 6 years. There's nothing new regarding cows. Just some drama once in a while and most of the time with the same people involved."

i know those comments were directed to me, and in my opinion very much unjustified, i have been a member at TUS for several years now, and ill bet i have opened less then 10 complaints, and i bet i won at least 75% of the complaints... meaning i dont open complaints for no reason!

i do my best to play fair, and play by the rules, and im generally always a good sport, no matter how bitter i am from the loss, i always tell my opponent gg, and well played... ALWAYS.

so, you can have your opinions of me just because i bring a little fun to the forums that you may  not agree with, such as banter with komo or creating FoS (which we catch you browsing our private forums quite often) but that does not mean i will be a bad complaint mod.... 

sorry this was such a long post, but this is my presidential election speech

VOTE FOR AVI! <3

edit: one more note, the recent complaint with stylez, and vesuvio which sparked this entire discussion proves i can be a good mod... stylez is one of my best wormy buddies outside of my clan mates, and vesuvio has been nothing but an annoying complaint whore lately, but i still set my personal feelings aside, and believe it was not a dark side (after vesuvio showed that replay) as much as i would rather side with stylez!! i didn't....   VOTE FOR AVI!

Tried it many years ago with similar remote to that PlayStation remote...  it's pretty impossible to rope with the joystick... and very hard to rope with the direction pad...

But when you start roping, you would say the same about a keyboard... so I guess if you started playing with one of the controllers, anything is possible.

Thx peja, my thoughts exactly... sure me and komo like to take jabs at each other, but wtf, we are making valid points in the mean time..

And maybe you should read those valid points, considering in my complaint last week you thought it was a loss, when really adraw (how the f@#! does a complaint mod miss the actual outcome of the game?)  And this complaint you don't take the time to do your own investigation, or discuss important things... so yeah, at least read me and komos valid points. Instead of threaten to mute or valid points you Jack ass

MI, I know your busy, and I respect that, but we need new mods in the community, I would actually take the roll, even though I know you would never choose me, based on your feelings of me, but just putting an offer out there..

I also thing you need to step down from your position, maybe you're spreading yourself too thin? Your a coder, a boss, a player, a gangster, and achiever.

You are not a complaint mod, I'll be starting a vote to remove you from tus complaint mod, you will respect what the people of tus want, right? We are a voting community.

Edit: tbh. Me and komo should both be complaint mods, we would actually do a good job... but again, your personal feeling for us won't allow that... I just think me and Komo could really get to the root of the rules, and when a tricky complaint situation comes up, we could then update the rules so they don't happen I'm future, or make new rules (after discussion with everyone) or any other task regarding complaint and rules... me and komo would actually discuss, and come to definitive solutions, and in situations we can't agree, a 3rd party mod can step in... but if the situation is something we can't agree upon, me and komo will be smart enough to realize that means one thing.. the rules need to be more clear.. instead, you guys just move into the next complaint .. it's asinine.