nice informative posts lex, cybershadow. only person that comes to my mind is that guy who posted on Team17 forums and TUS forums trying to show off his coding skills, but he either got banned or left.  he wasn't exactly the most pleasant person, and that's putting it lightly.

Day 3 out of 20: Free you suggest Day 10 out of 20 and 13-22gmt, but Artic says you'll agree to play on Day 6 at 18gmt
Day 5 out of 20: you say you can't play the day before and suggest Day 10 again 16-23gmt, but again Artic is unsure
Day 10 out of 20: you make plans for the day since artic is late to respond; Artic says he actually can play 19-23gmt, but you made plans. Artic offers times and you agree to play Day 14 at 18gmt.
Day 11 out of 20: Artic just finds out Day 14 is a birthday and offers Day 12, 15, and maybe 13
Day 12 out of 20: you won't agree saying busy weekend and instead offer Day 18 and 19, maybe 15 if really early at 14gmt. Artic says he had plans for Days 18 and 19 over a week ago, so he agrees to your early 14gmt time on Day 15.
Day 14 out of 20: again you say you can't play the day before and suggest day 20. Artic counter offers day 17 at 17-22gmt
Day 15 out of 20: Artic says he actually means day 16 instead of 17, still at 17-22gmt
Day 16 out of 20: you say you didn't read Artic's post quick enough and suggest Day 23 out of 20 at 16gmt, but also during the week.
Day 17 out of 20: Artic offers Day 18 or 20 at 20gmt, he also offers Day 21 at 18gmt saying he can't play weekend.
Day 18 out of 20: you agree to Day 21 at 18gmt, and Artic confirms he has 3 or 4 hours since 18gmt to play
Day 21 out of 20: again you say you can't play the day of the meeting, but sounds like it was a personal life issue (hopefully nothing too bad )

I'm sorry Free, it sounds like you overall were very busy (sure Artic was too, but he didn't cancel 3 times). In any case, perhaps this personal life issue of yours should be on your mind instead of some worms playoffs. We want you to be all right, whatever you're going through. I'm leaning towards letting Artic advance if that's okay with you. I ask because you actually have shown a lot of good effort arranging. I may be willing to let you try just one last time for Monday, but no later. Since I am the next opponent, I feel I'm willing to give a little flexiblity here. Let us know your decision. (Phanton, no, I am not playing favorites, Free actually has been showing good effort with Artic)


Reminder: FINAL deadline - TUESDAY, April 24th
almost 6 week(s) in now -> less than 3 week(s) left for FINAL


franz/(artic/free)


cfc/mm, I hear it's currently 1-1, both cfc and mm need to suggest future times. cfc when you suggest a time it's usually for all the games, you can't suggest a time first without mentioning just 2 games, then the day before mention only 2 games due to time. I'm told by mm they had to pick ttrr due to your limited lineup even though they wanted to pick bng. still you have less than 3 weeks until deadline, but next time won't be so forgiving.

deleted. please solve this talking to each other next time.

open your computer tower in an open area and blow out all dust, with compressed air if possible.  it could very likely be due to bad circulation, as this has happened to my computer -> the random shutting down, and me wondering wtf?

bad luck Turko

I'd say you could remove sd, or make it longer like 20/30/50 min, or force wxw like you say, or keep it the way it is. it's probably not a huge deal either way out of any of those, but yeah, a consensus would likely help.

I'm assuming it's the same joe also

unless someone knows why they shouldn't be combined, I'm guessing both joe's will turn into one account, and only MonkeyIsland can do this

I'm having a hard time understanding this one

you both played 2 games first? then a 3rd? and no 4th?  but harpy thought it was 2 more so he wants his t17 pick as a win?

is that close?

what an end, tough fights with you twistah

Quote from: SPW on April 01, 2012, 08:31 PM
Hey franz, sorry for waiting.

For me best would be end of week, maybe Friday, I'm not 100% sure. I'l call you in a few days dude.

hi spw any update?  if so, any hours you thinking?

the t17 thread: http://forum.team17.com/showthread.php?t=55790

SupSuper in that thread puts it nicely as well:

Quote from: SupSuper;768760Wow, Andy himself in here, I almost missed you with your regular nickname and non-bolded nickname, no offense. Rare to see any devs hanging around anymore, hope that trend changes.


As for the everlasting W:A argument, I hate to get into it, but I will just say this: W:A as it is now is not a Team17 game, it is a community game, and excepting/comparing any other Team17 game to it is completely pointless and nonsensical, as a game company does not work the way a community does.

Put simply, when W:A was a Team17 game, it followed the exact same cycle as all the other Worms games: released, people whined about bugs and issues, Team17 patched the most important stuff and moved on to the next game, repeat forever. Team17 didn't change, W:A did, it's community-driven so the development and fanbase process is completely different, it'll never be the same as any other Team17 game (and I don't mean they'll be better/worse/etc) . Get over it, or try to reproduce it yourself and see how that works out.

tl;dr: It's impossible for a Team17 game to be like W:A 3.5.x.

Quote from: DECK'ARD

Quote from: PlasmaSay... what did Andy Davidson actually do anyway? I mean, in terms of design decisions. He made the original prototype Worms, sure, but that doesn't explain why everyone's thinking of him as a god now.

Firstly, ello! To you as everyone else here, it's good to be back

Need to get proper T17 address/username set-up again (it's been a while!), but was reading this thread at home and thought I'd fill you in on some backstory as I have been doing on NeoGAF.

The game I showed T17 in 1994 wasn't a prototype, it was Worms just 80% finished and under its working name which was Total Wormage. I'd been writing it on the Amiga for 4 years, it was originally just a game for me and my mates to avoid school-work

Over the next year T17 converted it to PC/PlayStation etc. while I finished off the Amiga one and put the last things in which was the new background graphics, and things like playing on custom levels and importing your own pictures.

After Worms 1 was released in 1995, I then started writing the Director's Cut which was also my way of prototyping all of the things I wanted to put in Worms 2. Drawing your own levels in the game also went in here, as well as everything from back jumps, air moves, Super Sheep, to Holy Hand Grenade and of course the almighty Concrete Donkey. It was essentially Worms 2 running in the engine of Worms 1. This version was very much a labour of love, to give the Amiga the best version of the game possible as a thank you. As without the Amiga I would never have been able to create it in the first place.

T17 used this at the basis for the gameplay in Worms 2. Armageddon was meant to be the last in a trilogy, that is why it was named that, and be the completed vision of what I had in my head. But for various reasons I wasn't able to get this to happen. There was a lot of ideas missing, and the 'last' game wasn't completely finished in my eyes and too close to Worms 2 to be a proper sequel.

It was after that I decided to walk away from my baby, which was an incredibly hard decision to do but the only one I felt comfortable with.

The environment at T17 is very different now, I liked it and it felt good to be back and an opportunity to not only help the series stay true to the spirit of the original games but also complete the vision for the game and do entirely new things as well.

Look forward to discussing things with you on here, I loved doing that on IRC in the early days, and I'm glad you liked my little game!

sorry I had to go right then, otherwise I would've waited more.  we can rematch this if you want, just let me know

and Team17 continues to stray further and further away from Worms Armageddon.

why am I not surprised

Quote from: avirex on March 29, 2012, 02:05 AM
we will discuss about thursday and get back to you... but i doubt it will work out for mm, the only person that is sure they can make it so far is Mablak... maybe you will allow him 2teams?

mablak, barman, and free said they likely can play on next Thursday.  just making it clear since you're making it sound like only mab can ;p