thank you for your help guys. i appreciate, i think the free win change is a smart idea. im sorry to say i don't know either monkeyisland or wooka, i've been playing worms for a long time, but I'm glad to see some people devoted to the Worms community because it's like no other. I've been on a few year hiatus but my buddy SacrificialLamb got me set up and I'm ready to make my comeback haha. When are you guys usually on wnet so we can get a few games together?