I actually agree with Sbaffo lol.

Look, we've had 25 years of "oldschool" BnG... Now, don't get me wrong, I really like the Classic TUS scheme & rules and actually prefer it that way but look around... So many good players and good people really have valid issues with BnG right now and it's all to do with the rules both written and unwritten.

Rollers are even legal but people still get trashed for using them.

People keep asking why they can't throw 5s grenades without low gravity and/or maximum bounce.

What is even the point of having to re-aim if people can count shots anyway with individual notches?

Using 4s full power and lots of wind gets complaints as well as repeating shots.

The darksiding rule ALWAYS confuses people who previously didn't know about it:

No darksiding
*Darksiding is hiding your worm in a position where it's impossible for your opponent(s) to hit you with a grenade and at the same time impossible for you to hit your opponent(s) with a grenade. Simply teleport/move to other position.

Like Deadcode said in the recent Playoff BnG match versus oldsock... How do you know if it's impossible without using TA to check? The rules as they are mean that even a 1hp shot means it's a valid hide.

Anyway, this is just a vote, it's nothing official yet.

What are you even talking about, i shared my opinion on a topic asking for opinions.... on a message board .. i even started my reply with "personally" to ensure it's taken as my opinion. it's not in any way a threat. i really can see why this community is dying and it's you. for the three months I've been back reading this forum you self insert and alienate anyone who doesn't share your opinions. don't bother replying to this, i won't read it. i appreciate your passion and commitment to this game but for someones who spend his life typing on message boards you're considerably bad at actually talking to people. you'll never see me on this site again.

Lmao Sniper, that's a hell of an overreaction if I've ever seen one. Of course it was taken as your opinion, the point I was trying to make is that it's been said and done before, by myself and others and no decision is ever made based on an individual person saying "If this happens, I'll do this".

How do I even alienate anyone just by getting into forum disagreements? It takes more than just confrontation to make someone really feel alienated. I am not telling anyone they don't deserve to be here or that their opinions are not shared by anyone else... Just because I have an "opinion" to your "opinion" you instantly jump to literally alienating YOURSELF by claming you will never be on this website again.

Sounds like people alienate themselves just fine, they don't need my help lol.

I do get into disagreements quite often here, though all in all I'm still having a lot of fun with a lot of people and doing interesting projects and other stuff.

I've voted yes, I was going to do this myself soon but it's actually nice that someone else did it on their own accord!

So, my vote would go towards the NrBnG K scheme, though I'm not fussed if we lose the auto-reaim, anti-power, etc. I'd like to keep 9s though, it opens up nice possibilities.

With NrBnG as well, we would see the maps evolve to open up the bottom kind of as wel. You know how you make a BnG map with a Team17 cavern map? Delete top & fill bottom, well it's the same you just don't fill bottom. Since darksiding is allowed and sitters, it gives alternative tactics as well, you could hide down bottom, but then it's easy to throw 5s+ sitters to open up.

Wow... And why does WKB page have that weird scheme?

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I moderate my own Worms Server, and I try my best to keep it clean from spam, malicious links, and bad people. However, I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as longest it is kept orderly and civilized.

This is what I mean though... You keep going on about "Freedom of speech" whenever we discuss WormNET moderation, yet you constantly also admit you limit freedom of speech in your own channels.

"I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as long as it is kept orderly and civilized" - So in otherwords, exactly everything I and others here have been saying the entire time. When it comes to FoS, you contradict yourself with your own actions quite often. Though, don't take that as negative insult because in this case it is not, it's a good thing that your actions resemble the truth, even if your words don't sometimes.

Yes, it would be nice if EVERYONE could live without rules, and laws etc... That just isn't the world we live in yet, we are not evolved enough as a species collectively.

Your problem is the same problem I have sometimes... The ideal world we wished we lived in, and the world we actually live in, are 2 different things and we cannot expect everyone to be on that level of a dream world yet, we're just not evolved enough yet.

Just watching oldsock Vs Deadcode for the TUS Playoffs, score is 2:1 to oldsock and Deadcode picks Elite.

Near the end, oldsock had a weird turn I laughed initially asking what happened... He said shotgun is disappeared...

As it turns out Deadcode used wrong scheme, but technically not his fault as he got it from here:

https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/rules/#Elite

On that page, there is a link to the worms2d page with a download to a scheme that isn't the official TUS Elite scheme.

Is it possible to update this please?

Vote for which Physical scheme you'd like to see in Season 33 TRL.

15 days to vote!

Remember, you only get ONE vote, you CAN NOT change it, so vote carefully.

Congratulations to the Cup winners:


1st - tita / £30 (Will be paid by TheWalrus)

2nd - TheWalrus / £20 (Paid)

3rd - Rocket / £15 (Paid)

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Best Aerial Turn - Ledan / £10 (Paid)

Best Forts Shot - tita / £10 (Will be paid by TheWalrus)

Best Grenade Wars Shot - oldsock / £10 (Paid)

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If you're interested in watching the video for the live draw you can find it here, if it doesn't work at first it's because it's still processing and you'll be able to watch in an hour or so:

If two or more dudes are playing a game on their own, they have the rights to talk about whatever. If there are more people present, they should leave if they don't like the topic.

Well that depends on where it is. Like, you wouldn't be going into someone elses house saying stuff they don't want to hear and expect them to leave their own house lol. As MI said, as I said, and as others have said... Environment is very important, every environment has their own laws/rules/guidelines, it would be wise to follow them.

If you want to speak about anything in the privacy of a friend, that's between you 2 alone. The moment you step into the public you're part of the public, and the public will hold you responsible if you don't co-exist peacefully. It's not like you even have a choice when you are in someone else's domain, your 2 choices are to either follow their rules or they will forcibly remove you one way or another.

If someone comes into your house, and they aren't comfortable, yes, they should leave. Though if you go into someone elses house and start making them feel uncomfortable, you should leave.

That's why freedom of choice, freedom of speech are illusions... While yes you can literally say and do anything you want, we all know there are certain times and places we wouldn't say or do specific things out of survival and the willingness to co-exist peacefully.